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Rest in Peace to the poor innocent girl. At 8, she had her whole life ahead of her.

There is no doubt about it : the US is completely out of control. The gun culture there is expanding; tens of thousands more guns are on the streets each day.

It is a place to be avoided by all, by far the most dangerous nation in the free world.

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On average, 108,500 new guns are sold in the US. PER DAY. 40,000,000 per year. Unbelievable.

And they wonder why the nation is finished.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/02/10/this-is-how-many-guns-were-sold-in-all-50-states/43371461/

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On average, 108,500 new guns are sold in the US. PER DAY. 40,000,000 per year. Unbelievable. 

And they wonder why the nation is finished.

It wouldn’t be if the leaders were harder on crime, the DA would prosecute these people, defund the police where there are fewer, deny early release and strictly enforce the guns laws on the books and as long as they don’t do these things then you are absolutely right.

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Sick, sick, sick, happytrigger coutry..

And they wonder why the nation is finished.

So finished..

It wouldn’t be if the leaders were harder on crime, the DA would prosecute these people, defund the police where there are fewer, deny early release and strictly enforce the guns laws on the books and as long as they don’t do these things then you are absolutely right.

The good old excuse for the silly gun lovers..

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Texas is actually less than California but you know this.

And this article is about Chicago.

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so California and Texas are about the same.

yet California is actually higher as I said.

Strange you didnt even bother to list the state that Chicago is in, yet compelled to add Florida.

Why would that be?

Where is the guy with "but all the illegal guns come from red states that neighbor Chicago"? Its repetitive and disingenuous. This liberal city in this liberal state has a really bad gun problem that Democrats are doing nothing to fix. Any other state is irrelevant

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Her family emigrated to Chicago from Mexico last year, according to family members organizing an online effort to pay for funeral services expected to be held in Mexico.

She emigrated to a supposedly safer place and was killed because cowards want to feel like men by carrying guns.

My condolences to her family, no one deserves this!!!

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Lost of a little girl because of guns.

It is a tragic case and very sad. But as usual you’re focusing only on the gun factor and this is why we can never get things done in the US because the left wants to focus solely on the gun and nothing else and as long as they do that, the right is never, ever going to meet them halfway on the issue, because overwhelming we all want this senseless killing to stop, but to just focus on the firearm will never get the right to even discuss the issue.

How does your comment deal with the homicides in Texas or Louisiana where it is the highest in the country?

Actually, it’s not. The highest gun homicides in urban cities are in minority communities, but again, if the Democrats want to pivot from that, then we don’t need to have a further discussion on this, then just wait for the next tragedy make headlines. Either you man up and deal with the reality of all of it or just make it about guns and the Dems will just like every other issue continue to spin their wheels, sadly.

https://comparecamp.com/black-crime-statistics/

Despite the massive disparity in population, blacks felons outnumber the whites in crimes like manslaughter, robbery, and illegal gambling. They also take up large percentages of both serious and petty crimes. Tighter law enforcement measures might be needed to improve the safety of communities, provided that the suspects are judged based on their acts and not their skin color.   

In 2017, 53.1% of those arrested for manslaughter were black. 

Based on a 2017 FBI crime report, 54% of the people arrested for robbery were black

These are FBI stats and the real heartbreaking thing about this is, the left just won’t discuss the issue, they never do because bringing it up implies you’re racist and it’s asinine. We are all Americans, but throwing the race card by calling everyone racist because you don’t want to discuss the issue doesn’t help these people from being shot. The stats show there is a deeper problem and we need to understand and find out what that exactly is and not scream racist all the time because the left don’t like the stats.

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a LINK for all the states, yes. But Illinois was absent in your LIST.

I am quite aware that Chicago is not a state.

No Illinois was LISTED. Yet there is Florida and Texas.....why?

2020, U.S. homicide rate to 6.5 per 100,000 people,

New York homicide rate 4.2.

Texas homicide rate 6.5

Florida homicide rate 5.8

Californa homicide rate 6.9

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Chicago is not a state.

No, you’re right, but you’re doing that again. I see it. Do you have an idea how big of a State Texas is compared to the city of Chicago? Again, look at the FBI stats for a city that size and the population figuratively.

I provided a link for all the states.

I provided one FBI stat as well.

Illinois 6.8

About the same as Texas

And yet, the Black on Black crime is through the roof. Everyone knows this and this is why Chicago is on the news everyday, it’s all concentrated in one area. No one is disputing the homicide rate in Texas, but for one thing it’s spread out and it depends which city, now Houston is more dangerous than other parts of Texas, but again we are going back to the problem of inner city gun violence and crime and why black on black is the highest. Every FBI stats reflect this and it’s amazing to me when the left forcefully want to push facts about the FBI when it concerns the people or political opponents they hate then the stats are important and we have to acknowledge them, but when it comes to black on black FBI stats, the left scurry away like runaway crabs and just don’t want to talk about the issue. Why? Not talking about it won’t make these tragedies any less, not at all. Again, if you just want to talk about the guns you can do that, but focusing on one part of the problem is never going to move this issue and defunding the police is another component that is not helping but being highly exploited by the criminals everywhere. We all want to see less death, but in order to do that we need to acknowledge all of the ugliness that goes with it and not just what we want to choose from.

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Guns are inanimate objects, so they cannot be "out of control". People, however, can be. And ARE out of control in urban areas. Sadly, the demographics of violent crime don't lie. Lots of BIPOC people getting shot and killed by other BIPOC people.

Also, people who live in inner cities want MORE police, not less. They want to live their lives in peace and safety, without thugs and gangbangers making their lives miserable. It is the do-goody lefties who live in safe suburbs who want reduced police presence.

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Chicago 28.6

Los Angles 8.8

New York 5.6

Again, you are taking a stat and NOT looking at the makeup of the overall violence relative to race and population, No one is disputing the stats, but you have to acknowledge that the black-on-black crime still remains the most prevalent. But as I have stated, the leaders want to pivot and sweep all of the conversations under the rug, it won't solve the problem and it won't help the black community and so the violence will continue.

ABC News broke the story on Dec. 8 that at least 12 cities had record highs in homicide in 2021, according to police data. Philadelphia, with an astonishing 521 murders as of Dec. 6, had more than the nation’s two largest cities by population, New York and Los Angeles.

That amounted to a 13% rise in murders in 2021, eclipsing 2020’s already record-breaking year, for the so-called City of Brotherly Love.

Other cities broke their record earlier in the year. Rochester, New York, did as early as Nov. 11, for instance.Columbus, Ohio; Indianapolis, Indiana: and Louisville, Kentucky, also broke records, as did St. Paul, Minnesota; Portland, Oregon; Tucson, Arizona; Toledo, Ohio; Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Austin, Texas; Rochester, New York; and Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Sad.

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America is a country with 320 million people and more than 400 million guns in civilian hands.

A hostage-taker who was shot dead after a stand-off at a synagogue in Texas was British. 

Ok, that now takes on a completely different paradigm, how did he get in the US in the first place or a firearm? There are a lot of questions that are not being answered.

He arrived in the country and bought a gun off the streets. So easy, so cheap.

That could have been other States as well. Again, look at the entire problem, stop focusing on the guns, it won't change anything.

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The Wild West is alive and well in Chicago. Guns galore!

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A British scientist killed by a stray bullet in Atlanta. A 14-year-old girl killed by a stray (police) bullet in LA. An 8-year-old girl killed by a stray bullet in Chicago. It seems that the right to own a firearm overrules the right to sleep, shop, or walk down a city street in safety.

Self-defence is a right. Firearm ownership is a privilege. Comparable countries to America understand this, and have less firearm violence as a result. Why can't the Americans see it?

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My guess is, that country has been successfully built up by former people using guns and it also will now go under by those other, new kind of people using guns.

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if the leaders were harder on crime, the DA would prosecute these people

Bingo! This comment is very smart. America has the highest incarceration rate in the world, but that doesn't mean that throwing lots of people into prison isn't working. We need to throw more people into prison, because breaking up families and treating ex-felons as felons even when they get out is a sure-fire way to build peaceful communities.

you have to acknowledge that the black-on-black crime still remains the most prevalent.

Exactly. That's why we need to elect DAs and cops who lock up thugs when they don't fall in line, no more excuses or kid gloves. A defunded police department and governments that pass CRT for schools isn't going to make the people safer, no matter what the left says. As long as the city enforces gun laws and makes sure thugs don't buy them, and then don't persecute me for owning an AR-15 for my own safety, then maybe liberal run cities won't be so violent and bias against the 2nd amendment.

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look at the entire problem, stop focusing on the guns, it won't change anything

If guns were not in the equation it would have made a huge difference to the 8-year-old girl, the 14-year-old girl, the British astrophysicist and many, many others who, regardless of age, race, political affiliation and all the other 'factors' you raise, would not be dead if someone with a gun had not shot them.

Take away the guns, and you take away the gunshot deaths.

As for black-on-black, white-on-white, Red states, Blue states and all the other 'stats' you want to think are important; it's nearly all American-on-American, and it's all happening in America. You can hardly call yourselves the United States when all you do is bicker about how some bits are different and don't really count.

Man up and own up; The Disunited States as a whole has a problem.

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the British terrorist was able to arrive in Texas, and buy a gun off the streets for little money. Says a lot about the lack of gun controls there. 

Ok, but that has nothing to do with the out-of-control crime in Chicago. I live and own property in Texas, we live in a nice upscale neighborhood, great schools, low crime, and yes, there are violent out of control cities like Houston and Austin, but we are talking about one of the largest urban cities in the country following NYC and LA. 

I will say this, the Dems in that State know that the black vote is imperative to their political survival, if the people in Chicago were to vote more Republican, the Dems would go through that city with a wrecking ball to fix the crime, they don't want to alienate any of their constituents, Florida was going down that path until DeSantis started to take a more forceful approach and it is getting there and all the more reason as to why people continue to move to that State. 

Other terrorists could also arrive in the country and easily buy their assault weapons off the streets.

Ok, but you are doing it again. You keep saying this and do you think the Dems really want to push away many of their constituents that are gun owners? Again, the only way to solve this problem is to address it from all angles and not just the angle of the get rid of guns crowd, not going to happen.

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*If guns were not in the equation it would have made a huge difference to the 8-year-old girl, the 14-year-old girl, the British astrophysicist and many, many others who, regardless of age, race, political affiliation and all the other 'factors' you raise, would not be dead if someone with a gun had not shot them.*

Ok, but you can make that argument about any weapon or attempt on someone’s life, more people choke on candy a year than are killed by gun fire and suicide make up for overall homicides, but again, and I don’t know how many times we have to discuss this. I have a farm and we have a lot of things that can kill you or your livestock, and if you don’t have a gun, you are just waiting for something to happen.

Take away the guns, and you take away the gunshot deaths. 

Ok, but that’s not going to solve the problem or stop homicides, you are making an emotional argument. I could come back and say, if the leaders and politicians would enforce the gun laws already in place, there would be less death. You can make that argument as well

As for black-on-black, white-on-white, Red states, Blue states and all the other 'stats' you want to think are important;

Yes, if you truly want to solve this problem you do need insight and context to do that.

*it's nearly all American-on-American, and it's all happening in America. You can hardly call yourselves the United States when all you do is bicker about how some bits are different and don't really count.*

Man up and own up; The Disunited States as a whole has a problem.

Ok, that’s just more emotional speech that just does or means nothing to the problem at hand.

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