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Democracy is far from perfect. But it is a million times better than Communism. The idea of not having any say over who governs the citizens is despicable and obscene. Not to mention the complete hatred of freedom in Communist China.

China is barking yet again like the little chihuahua it is, asking for a kicking.

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China brands U.S. democracy 'weapon of mass destruction'

...but of course the CCP (now trying to re-brand itself as CPC) would say that. In the event, I am no friend of the Biden regime, but kudos for its state department for inviting Taiwan to the event. That was the right thing to do, for once.

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"'Democracy' has long become a 'weapon of mass destruction' used by the U.S. to interfere in other countries," a foreign ministry spokesperson said in an online statement, which also accused the US of having "instigated 'color revolutions'" overseas.

"'Chinas version of communism ' has long become a 'weapon of mass destruction' used by the Chinese to interfere in other countries," the senator said in an online statement, which also accused the Chinese Nation of having "instigated 'color revolutions and election meddling'" overseas and digitally with Russia..in the USA and Australia to suite the Chinese agenda.

See where I am going with this?

Utter non-sense.

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That’s great news! China, you have been warned.

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China is barking yet again like the little chihuahua it is, asking for a kicking

It's bark may sound like a Chihuahua, but it's the size of an English Mastiff!

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the U.S.-organized Summit for Democracy

which includes countries like Iraq, Pakistan, Liberia, among others.

Go figure...

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Ahead of the summit, China ramped up a propaganda blitz criticizing U.S. democracy as corrupt and a failure. Instead, it touted its own version of "whole-process people's democracy" in a white paper released last week that aimed to shore up legitimacy for the ruling Communist Party, which has become increasingly authoritarian under President Xi Jinping.

OK President for life Xi, let's ask the Tibetans, Uighurs, Falon Gong, Hong Kong, and Peng Shuai what they think of your "whole-process people's democracy"....

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The only way that democracy will allow government to be like CCP is through military force. CCP got lucky the world had just come out of a WW2. If not for that, they wouldn't have enough power to get a foot hold of China.

But CCP is ending and you can see it in their desperate actions. It's just a matter of time.

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Democracy is a farce for the gullible to think they have a say in their counties running....

There are times where it can be better than other options if you are lucky .

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Government of the people by the people and for the people. Everything the CCP is terrified of.

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LotusKobeToday  04:12 pm JST

China, you have a perception problem

Because they don't perceive through the filters of American propaganda?

As the writer of Hench figured out, as long as the people only hear the good things about one group of people, and only the bad things about another, well, they'll see superheroes and supervillians.

Show the whole truth about both, and the difference between the two becomes hard to see.

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Democracy vs. un-democracy or autocracy. That's a hard task to draw the difference. What kind of yardsticks should be used to draw a line of demarcation between the two systems?  

"Democracy is a core value of the United Nations. The UN supports democracy by promoting human rights, development, and peace and security. In the 75 (76) years since the UN Charter was signed, the UN has done more to support democracy around the world than any other global organization" (a quote from the Internet).

A dominant power in this region not only during the pre-1972 Okinawa occupation period but also thereafter, can the U.S. boast it has promoted human rights ahead of the strengthening of its military footprint here?

Mind you, the majority of Okinawans are opposed to the relocation of Futenma Air Station to Henoko and demanding the air base be closed immediately, unconditionally. Why doesn't the U.S. government listen to this democratic voice if it thought it was a champion of democracy?

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Democracy is far from perfect. But it is a million times better than Communism. 

I agree. Now only if we could convince US politicians of that. The US claiming the mantle of democracy is a joke. They have overthrown countless democracies and just yesterday doubled down on imprisoning the world's most prominent jailed journalist. And the voters love it. Dumbocracy is more like it.

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No china is the super power no doubt about it after all it shut down the whole world for more than two years without firing a single bullet

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America is a plutocracy not a democracy, but the people don't seem to have realized yet.

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Perfectly, agreed with China.

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If China had any balls it would allow a free, open and fair election on the mainland. Doing so would be the end of the CCP so they do all they have to to avoid that.

Better for China to deflect from people looking at it's obvious faults by trying to make others sound worse. Thats pushing something brown uphill. It does not work.

China has killed more people in wars both foreign and domestic in its 5,000 year plus history, and it points its finger at others.

Democracy has its faults, (the CCP cant admit its own faults) but it is the best available option to allow personal freedoms and choice. I feel sorry for all the Chinese people who are a number to their government and have no say in change or the future.

True democratic nations are far better than China will ever be as a one party despotic state.

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Alex

which includes countries like Iraq, Pakistan, Liberia, among others.

Go figure...

Oops yes, that is pretty ironic.

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Nice, now they have to resolutely resist and oppose even themselves. lol

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Actually China may have a lot more in common with the U.S. than they think with the way the media and social media shuts out opposing opinions.

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China isn't really communist anymore, it's more like national socialism blending with Confucianism. On the other hand, the West is becoming something more like neo-feudalism with global elites (WEF, IMF etc) managing local barons (national politicians) overseeing a serf class (us).

I'm not condoning either, I'm just pointing out the labels of 'democracy' and 'communism' aren't so useful anymore. Get smart and start studying so you can properly analyse what's happening

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The more China focus on US, the better for Japan.

Keep it, "superpowers".

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it touted its own version of "whole-process people's democracy" in a white paper released last week that aimed to shore up legitimacy for the ruling Communist Party,

How is China a democracy? In the 72 years of it's existence, China under the CCP has never given it's people the right to vote for their leaders.

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WobotToday  06:46 pm JST

China isn't really communist anymore, it's more like national socialism blending with Confucianism.

China replaced "communism" with "nationalism" over a decade ago as the adhesive to keep the country together. And we all know what we called National Socialists back in 1939.

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WobotToday  06:46 pm JST

China isn't really communist anymore, it's more like national socialism blending with Confucianism.

China replaced "communism" with "nationalism" over a decade ago as the adhesive to keep the country together. And we all know what we called National Socialists back in 1939.

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If American democracy is the right to buy guns freely, the right to tell another woman on the other side of the country what she can or cannot do with her body, and if it includes unaffordable healthcare, seeing politicians enrich themselves instead of tackling poverty, homelessness and crumbling infrastructure, then I don't want it.

Time and time again we've seen America destroy other countries and murder innocent people just because they have a different way of life. America will do anything, even spread propaganda and lies about forced labor. But it's true, force labor was uncovered in some places, and imports should be banned. Rape and killings too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgiSzTav0v0

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I don't want China's style of government and I don't want the US's style of government. They're both bad, at opposite ends of the equilibrium. Democracy may not be perfect, but I wouldn't say the US is the flagship of that system of government.

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China's version of communism consists of a thin layer of ultra rich people who have gotten rich at the expense of a huge and very poor population. America's democracy consists of a thin layer of ultra rich people who have gotten rich at the expense of a huge and largely poor population and a rapidly thinning middle class. Neither have free speech. Neither create freedom, peace or equality.

What's the difference?

Not a lot!

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The USA has its failings, it’s weird attitude to guns but one of the most prominent. Nonetheless the CCP’s record of oppression, dissimulation, aggression and let’s not forget Genocide sets it apart from every other government in the world.

Democracy is not perfect but it is the only valid and justifiable form of governance of a people, all else is oppression based on violence.

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Nonetheless the CCP’s record of oppression, dissimulation, aggression and let’s not forget Genocide sets it apart from every other government in the world.

Can you cite an example?

What for example did China do thats comparable to, say, USA's invasion of Iraq and murder of hundreds of thousands of its citizens

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I'll call China a democracy when the Tibetan flag, a picture of the 1989 "tank man", and a large Winnie the Pooh balloon can all fly over Tiananmen Square....

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Democracy is a word thrown around all too lightly look at the US or UK are they truly democratic… no, it’s an aspiration to work towards but we seem to be in reverse!

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http://www.news.cn/english/2021-12/05/c_1310352570.htm

This the topic that is going around in China: the state of democracy in the US.

It’s just an assessment. Almost like a high school Civics class homework assignment. It has nothing to do with Xinjiang, Taiwan or the Diplomatic boycott. It is only an assessment post Capitol Riots on January 6th this year.

The Economist however, runs a an article: China says it’s more democratic than the US.

https://www.economist.com/china/2021/12/04/china-says-it-is-more-democratic-than-america

The Economist is probably the publication that least understands China yet thinks it’s got the best angle on China.

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China does come up with some strange proclamations fairly regularly but someone is going to have to explain this one,* *"whole-process people's democracy" to me because I have no clue what they mean.

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The sad part is, it's beginning to look more and more like nations like China, who mock Democracy and say it's failed, are correct. It's done in the US, that's for sure. The funny part is watching those that claim to defend democracy cheer for those who have destroyed it -- the GOP.

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China isn’t communist Just confusionist

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The ‘silence’ from Living in Tokyo is deafening. This was written just for you @Kentarogaijin, an ‘open forum’ on your favorite topic. (Looking forward to your overnight wisdom so other threads can be left ‘on topic’)

Oh, “Great Dragon from the East”, please enlighten us!!

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China is right, US uses "democracy" as "weapon of mass destruction" to buy loyalties and judge countries who think different..

The ‘silence’ from Living in Tokyo is deafening.

You sound like an elemental school bully..

Try to behave like someone of your age.. ;)

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@snowymountainhell

The worst thing Japan can do is being dragged in a conflict between China and USA.

Let them sort themselves out, Japan can only benefit.

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The CCP is correct, in that if they gave the Chinese people democracy, it would result in the mass destruction of the CCP.

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Democracy is a bit of a farce in America. Considering Republicans presidents won the right to rule, even though they were the choice of the minority, 14 out of the past 15 election they "won", it makes a joke of the idea of Democracy.

When the states come up with ways to ensure that their people are in power even though they had less votes, it makes a joke of the idea of Democracy.

When the people try to overthrow the results of a democratic election by breaking into the legal chambers to try to hang the person certifying the vote, it makes a joke of the idea of Democracy.

There is plenty of Democracy in the world. But America's "Democracy" is a farce, propaganda they feed to their people to make them believe in the American system in spite of the the fact it's not actually Democratic. The CCP weren't so far off the mark with this one.

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Democracy is like two wolves and a sheep voting on who's going to be dinner.

Dictatorships are like one wolf deciding who's going to be dinner.

In the end, the same one gets eaten.

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Democracy is a bit of a farce in America. Considering Republicans presidents won the right to rule, even though they were the choice of the minority, 14 out of the past 15 election they "won", it makes a joke of the idea of Democracy.

Do not forget Republican gerrymandering!

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voiceofokinawaDec. 11  05:13 pm JST

Mind you, the majority of Okinawans are opposed to the relocation of Futenma Air Station to Henoko and demanding the air base be closed immediately, unconditionally. Why doesn't the U.S. government listen to this democratic voice if it thought it was a champion of democracy?

Because the Okinawans are Japanese citizens. That's how a democracy works. The US government is supposed to negotiate directly with and enter into treaties with a small segment of Japan's population?

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Do not forget Republican gerrymandering!

How do you think they won so many presidencies while not being the choice of the people?

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And China Jails, Kills its peoples who speak out against The Governments Actions.

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I dare the CCP to have open and free elections between themselves and the political parties in Hong Kong and in Taiwan.

You KNOW the CCP would tamper the hell out of it to make their party win because they know even their own citizens would tell them to **** off if the citizens had a CHOICE.

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Right Wing Republican have no credibility to condemn China,they only cater too their White Supremacy base

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I'll consider that the U.S.A. has made big steps toward democracy when it closes Guantanamo and stops hounding people like Assange who had the balls to expose some of the atrocities the US was committing.

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@Strangerland, funny how with election integrity laws in force for 2022, many Democrats are "retiring".

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China's version of communism consists of a thin layer of ultra rich people who have gotten rich at the expense of a huge and very poor population. America's democracy consists of a thin layer of ultra rich people who have gotten rich at the expense of a huge and largely poor population and a rapidly thinning middle class.

Which has always been the case historically, but in the US however, and unlike Communist China you do have the opportunity to pull yourself up and make something out of yourself, hard work and determination can pull you out of poverty. My grandparents on my mother’s side when they came to this great country and my dad who grew up in extreme poverty. It just depends on how bad you want it, the possibility to improvement is there and available nonetheless.

Neither have free speech. Neither create freedom, peace or equality. 

What’s the difference?

That is absolutely not true, the US has always had free speech, but recently big tech is trying to silence it especially if it involves conservatives or anything the Federal government doesn’t want you to say or do, this is a very dangerous moment we live in when the left think they have the right to silence conservatives, not to mention the US has allowed more people from anywhere on the planet to achieve their dreams to becoming whatever it is they want to be and to create as much wealth as they want. If that were not true thousands from 160 countries wouldn’t have been trying to get in through the Southern border. Equality is what is driving the desire. The peace was however broken when this administration decided to just open the borders and let anyone in regardless of what the rules of immigration are.

That’s the difference. A whole lot.

@Strangerland, funny how with election integrity laws in force for 2022, many Democrats are "retiring".

Exactly.

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I'll consider that the U.S.A. has made big steps toward democracy

I guess you won’t be considering the US as a land for democracy then.

when it closes Guantanamo

Not going to happen.

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OhKay @11:14pm. I’m open to ‘politely’ considering rational points from You. Please tell: How can both countries AND both ideologies coexist, without the demise of the other?

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Simian LaneDec. 11  03:59 pm JST

They can call the US anything it likes. But no one likes this Chinese government. People prefer democracy over some crackpot leader who covers up viruses, locks up his own people over next to nothing, trashes HK, persecutes immigrants, builds illegal islands, breathes down Taiwan’s neck etc. For all America’s woes, it has people from all walks of life.

Having a smart spokesperson is one thing, but most people will see through that, if that’s all it is,

Remember, the US itself was suffering many of these and similar abuses under a crackpot who denied CoVid, kidnapped migrant children and placed them in concentration camps, stirred up racist strife and terror, and tried to overthrow our government.

StrangerlandDec. 11  11:38 pm JST

The CCP is correct, in that if they gave the Chinese people democracy, it would result in the mass destruction of the CCP.

And that's what happened in apartheid South Africa in late 1993. Elections and voting by all the races and colors. Apartheid there is gone.

WilliBDec. 11  03:57 pm JST

China brands U.S. democracy 'weapon of mass destruction'

...but of course the CCP (now trying to re-brand itself as CPC) would say that. In the event, I am no friend of the Biden regime, but kudos for its state department for inviting Taiwan to the event. That was the right thing to do, for once.

Nyah nyah nyah! President-4-Life Xi, you need to clean house.

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@Strangerland, funny how with election integrity laws in force for 2022, many Democrats are "retiring".

Eh, what is funny about that? Democrats have always retired. As have Republicans. As does every politician that doesn't die in office. You seem to be trying to draw some connection.... What exactly is it?

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Maybe China should boycott the US?

Democracy has allowed the US to be China’s biggest customer-nonsense from the CCP.

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China says democracy used as ‘weapon of mass destruction’.

The Summit for Democracy can be seen as US tightening its grip on those nations willing to be obedient.

In fact, the 'misguided democracy' could even be much worse than WMD.

Discreetly, China implies US has lied..

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Remember, the US itself was suffering many of these and similar abuses under a crackpot who denied CoVid, kidnapped migrant children and placed them in concentration camps, stirred up racist strife and terror, and tried to overthrow our government. 

Utter nonsense, illegal border crossing is just that illegal, enforcing the laws in 2014 and since for a very, very long time has been the policy of not only the US, but most of the world and violating them should have consequences, what wouldn’t wouldn’t support or uphold safety and security to a sovereign nation. Nothing racist about that, enter China or any other country illegally and watch what happens.

And that's what happened in apartheid South Africa in late 1993. Elections and voting by all the races and colors. Apartheid there is gone.

No, it’s back again technically in reverse and that was never the vision of Mandela or even DeKlerk.

Nyah nyah nyah! President-4-Life Xi, you need to clean house.

Why? He’s President for life and that’s bad for the US overall.

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America should build a wall.

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I am sick and tired of reading stupid CCP statements every frigging day! There is nothing more pathetic than China, on one hand is saying they have not invited anyone and on the other crying like a little baby about diplomats not attending!!!! Total loss of face!!!!

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China is the World’s schoolyard bully everyone tries to suck up to.

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Basically, the two words, Communism and Democracy mean pretty much the same thing. Communism is about sharing wealth (common, communal) and democracy is "rule by the people." Wealth is shared at the lower income brackets in China. At the other end, it's security fences, off shore bank accounts and absolutely no sharing! As for democracy, there hasn't been much rule by the people in the U.S.A. Not by all the people any way. Black stars like Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder had to stay at non-white hotels and a series of incomprehensible wars, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., have made a mockery of American "freedom." Both China and the U.S.A. are ruled by greed, pure and simple.

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The Definition of a Weapon of Mass Destruction, would be personified by exactly what china did;

INFECT the world and kill millions... "Without Firing a Shot"

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China has a point. They aren't 100% wrong, but they aren't 100% right either.

Outside China, we can say that even if our country disagrees.

Inside China, saying something against the govt is bad for your freedom and can get you "disappeared".

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A very accurate headline.

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China really should ignore the the international community 'words' and focus on correcting the factual insufficiencies of their own country. And Honestly, they have a pretty powerful communistic weapon of mass destruction themselves, no one would ever dare attack China, militarily or diplomatically, but to think that the fact of suppression of religion is not addressed by the international community would be a terrible thing. China has its reasons for sure, but there are other ways, and they need to better address them in the future.

And really, should any country be hosting the Olympics right now? I feel for the athletes, I really do.

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BertieWoosterDec. 12  08:54 pm JST

Basically, the two words, Communism and Democracy mean pretty much the same thing. Communism is about sharing wealth (common, communal) and democracy is "rule by the people." Wealth is shared at the lower income brackets in China. At the other end, it's security fences, off shore bank accounts and absolutely no sharing! As for democracy, there hasn't been much rule by the people in the U.S.A. Not by all the people any way. 

What we know as 'Communism' is a total bastardization of what Marx envisioned. He envisioned a world society with no social or economic classes and 'the state would wither away'. Having an elitist party or Politiboro like the CCP is not what he had in mind. There has been socialist economies for thousands of years, there are some now nut there never has been a true 'communist' society, at least not as Marx theorized. If it existed it would have democratic principals as well, which the CCP doesn't.

In the U.S.A. we came very close to a one man dictatorship recently. That's not democracy and we know trump was not legitimatically elected in 2016 and he lost last year. 82 million + Americans have spoken in november 2020 and Joe wasn't boasting when he ststed that. American democracy isn't perfect, but I don't worry about it as much since the traitor bastard has let the WH.

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"'Democracy' has long become a 'weapon of mass destruction' used by the U.S. to interfere in other countries," a foreign ministry spokesperson said in an online statement, which also accused the US of having "instigated 'color revolutions'" overseas.

Nothing they said there is wrong quite frankly. Ask basically any South American nation their opinions of American "democracy", which has amounted to "you are allowed to hold democratic elections as long as you choose the one candidate we support; otherwise coup". Which is about the exact opposite of democracy. I doubt you will hear much better from places like Laos that were just repeatedly bombed into "freedom".

It is little surprise these countries are more than happy to take the olive branches that China offers them, when America has only attempted to beat them into compliance.

The real takeaway I think isn't that "democracy" is bad, but that imperialism thinly-veiled as democracy definitely is. America has been beating the "China is bad" drum with renewed vigor for a few years now, and it is very concerning. Obviously China are no saints either, no state possibly can be, but that doesn't magically make every statement made untrue. This is a case where I definitely think they hit the nail on the head.

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This current White House loves censorship by cutting video and audio feeds. what a democracy they support.

After a Taiwanese minister showed a map that labeled Taiwan in a different color than China during President Biden's Summit for Democracy last week, the video of her presentation was reportedly cut by the White House over diplomatic concerns.

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This current White House loves censorship by cutting video and audio feeds. what a democracy they support

Do you think this is unique to the current White House? It isn’t.

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