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China marks 70 years of Communist Party rule as Hong Kong braces for unrest

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Wonder where the Blue Sky went ? You could hardly see the aircraft fly-by let alone the Tanks on the Road in the not to far off distance....

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The Communist Party have nothing to do with the Communism wrote about by Karl Marx.

Aye, it's a travesty and hardly any wonder that less-educated folks get confused when they see the totalitarian China stamping its boot on freedoms.

Xi's words are terrifying and provocative - as they're meant to be. One can only hope that eventually the big 3 superpowers will be peacefully dismantled into something less unwieldy.

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Bejing Olympics should have been the end of it but they've doubled down in it. Long time coming to make things elsewhere and stop enabling China

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I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

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zichiToday 12:54 pm JSTThe Communist Party have nothing to do with the Communism wrote about by Karl Marx.

> Toasted HereticToday 01:08 pm JSTThe Communist Party have nothing to do with the Communism wrote about by Karl Marx.

Aye, it's a travesty and hardly any wonder that less-educated folks get confused when they see the totalitarian China stamping its boot on freedoms.

Xi's words are terrifying and provocative - as they're meant to be. One can only hope that eventually the big 3 superpowers will be peacefully dismantled into something less unwieldy.

Karl Marx based his 'communism' on 'socialistic' economic principals that go back to the ancient Hebrews and that all Native American peoples practiced. He envisioned a socialist economy for the world where 'the state would wither away'. He also severely criticized the personality cult. The USSR didn't practice his vision and China certainly doesn't now. Marx made a great influence on social sciences but his utopia has not been realized, even though Maoists have said since 1992 'Death to phony communism. Mao more than ever!'.

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It's 70 years too many, but it will eventually go the same way as her tyrannies of the past, but not without dragging hundreds of millions more with it.

It is an interesting case study in politics and economics. After tacitly acknowledging that Marxism/socialism/Maoism and all the other associated isms lead to millions of deaths through murder and starvation, failure and misery (unless you're right at the top and holding the gun) through their abject ignorance of human nature, the CCP adopted some market leanings while refusing to give up it grip on power. Since the CCP has changed to allowing private property but ultimately still controlling it, one could argue that China has simply switched from being a socialist dictatorship to a fascist one, indicating how close socialism/ communism (how it is actually practised outside some tiny communes) is to fascism.

Personally, I look forward to the day XI and his cronies face justice. It can't come a day too soon.

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Xi, who wore the distinctive "Mao suit",

That is a common misnomer. Chinese call it a "Sun Yat-sen suit," as the design was developed and popularized by the founder of the Chinese republic in 1911. (A poster of Sun, wearing the same costume, was posted at Tiananmen and broadcast on CNN this morning.)

The suit's name in Mandarin is Zhongshan Zhuang. (Zhongshan was another of Sun's names, taken from his Japanese alias, Nakayama.) Neither Japanese nor Koreans refer to it as a Mao suit.

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one could argue that China has simply switched from being a socialist dictatorship to a fascist one,

One could, if one had a greater understanding of socialism and its myriad nuances. Dictatorships, by their very nature, are fascist. The moment socialism is corrupted, it is no longer socialism. So, you can't have a socialist dictatorship.

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Toasted Heretic, thanks for your reply. I'd love to debate this all day but have work to finish.

But...

What about the dictatorship of the proletariat? Doesn't take long to devolve into despotism if history like China's, Cuba's, the USSR's is any guide.

How many nuances does one need to "understand" socialism? Every time we have seen a revolutionary socialist mob take over a government with a promise to crush the greedy capitalists, it ends in abject disaster in some form or another, very often for the people it was purportedly instituted to support. And may the lord help anyone who disagreed.

Looking at examples like the NHS (and its rough Australian equivalent, Medicare), these are safety nets that require money raised through taxes taken through economic activity generated by relatively free markets. Without free markets to supply the money, the NHS and programs like it would be far more underfunded than they are now. Don't get me wrong - I am comfortable with a safety net like this for people who can't afford privately funded healthcare, but as citizens we need to keep the pressure on governments to ensure these systems are not money bureaucratic money pits - all things considered. Agree?

As for the Scandinavian countries, well Norway makes a huge amount of money from its fossil fuel exports to fund its local programs, as well as market activity. Without these, its social programs would collapse. Sweden... well Sweden is finding out the hard way that you can't keep spending other people's money forever and keep a high standard of living.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lxD-gikpMs

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Has anything good ever come out of Red China?

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Are they still revering that old scumbag Mao?

A truly awful specimen.

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Stop minding other countries business.

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Stop minding other countries business.

It's an important story, that affects us all. I think we should be paying attention, don't you?

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The saying in China is that Mao was 70% correct. That may be true, but the remaining 30% was horrific. I know; I lived there in the '80s and witnessed the aftermath.

Xi seems to be a Mao 2.0.

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I've been to China. I thoroughly did not enjoy being there. Won't ever visit again, especially now that Xi is God Emperor for Eternity.

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I've been to China. I thoroughly did not enjoy being there

I’ve spent quite a bit of time there. I enjoyed it. Learning a bit of Mandarin can take you a long way.

Shanghai in particular was great fun.

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There must be some seriously angry people in the Peking politbureau now, seeing that HK brouhaha goes one while they celebrate themselves. Luckily for them, they have total control over the information the masses in the mainland get.... very much like Google, Facebook, Twitter, CNN, etc. try to impose on us in the West. Lets hope we can protect our freedom of information.

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A protestor was shot in Hong Kong with live ammunition, Xi's threats coming true.

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How many elections has the Communist Party won?

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How many elections has the Communist Party won?

All of them.

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How many elections has the Communist Party won?

All of them.

How many votes did the Communists get?

I'm guessing all of them.

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Should watch https://www.foreign.senate.gov/hearings/the-hong-kong-emergency-securing-freedom-autonomy-and-human-rights . Mr. Stephen J. Yates' was pretty correct in his statements.

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Hong Kong won’t bring down China, on the other hand, Chinese not getting their pork subgum because of the pig Ebola just might. Gives a whole different take on communist pig.

Invalid CSRF

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I just found out I've been dating a communist....

Are you sure she is not a planted agent from ChiNazi?

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Kentarogaijin: "Congratulations China for 70 years of repressive bloody tyranny !!.."

The people China and HK have been repressed for well over 100 years, including during the time of British annexation of HK and prior to the opium wars.

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Kentarogaijin: "Congratulations China for 70 years of repressive bloody tyranny !!.."

The people China and HK have been repressed for well over 100 years, including during the time of British annexation of HK and prior to the opium wars.

So that absolves the CCP which slaughtered millions?

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Look at this parade. hose young ladies goose-stepping in honor to the jerk who killed millions of their own in the 1966 - 1976 'Cultural Revolution' and they'd risk their lives for the oppressive CCP and the evil legacy left behind by that iconic jerk. Yeah, Mao - that means you. Disgusting and obscene.

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Political propaganda at its best, which needed millions of nappies to keep these puppet folks performing hours without being allowed to go to a rest room. Fixed no blinking eyes from military staff, fake joy from thousends of forced actors.

Are we really in 2019?

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Just say NO to communism.

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Baring the HK Riots, there have been some disturbances on the mainland too. (Some videos have surfaced today.... courtesy of those who still have working VPN access outside of the Country).

The CCP is a leech upon Chinese Society as a whole, and the general populace know this but are afraid to say so, since doing by voicing any discontent results in penalties for the whole of your Family...

This is the just one of the ways things work in China.

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I feel sorry for those who had to partake in these extended "celebrations", I've heard that the Soldiers even have to wear Adult Diapers... due to the extended period (well into the night) in which they are not allowed to leave for a break (WTF!!!!). Emperor Xi bogged out 1/2 way though the event too, as too his cohorts.. one has to wonder why the "celebrations" continued without the "'Party" to which there were directed.... ?????

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Internally... though... there's potentially good news, that there are "rumors" of a potential assassination attempt on Xi... though one has to wonder, which of the other powerful Chinese Political Families would be taking that approach... and for those who don't know... there is an internal Political battle going on between various "Political" factions within China who are predominately aligned to the prior "leaders" of the Country.

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A vulgar parade for a vulgar man!!!

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All those people marching in honor of a despicable antichrist who did nothing beneficial to the Chinese people or their glorious historic legacy. People like Mao with their rotten personality cults are ugly blots on history. Chairman Mao was a scumdog.

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