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The war games come after Lai Ching-te was sworn in as Taiwan's new president this week and made an inauguration speech that China denounced as a "confession of independence".

Not your business China.

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It’s best to make clear and let them know independence requires courage and the will to sacrifice lives which obviously the bubble tea drinking Taiwanese do not have.

The Americans, the French, the Filipinos and so on all have had to fight for their independence.

The Taiwanese like eating and sitting in an air conditioned room watching TV. Ask any Taiwanese here if they prefer to go to war against China or rake in money from investing in Mainland. Hands down the latter.

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quercetumToday 01:04 pm JST

The Taiwanese like eating and sitting in an air conditioned room watching TV. Ask any Taiwanese here if they prefer to go to war against China or rake in money from investing in Mainland. Hands down the latter.

Ask any if they want their country to join the mainland. QED

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Sure seems like pretty crude, violent, intimidating actions from a country that routinely says it is a "peaceful and harmonious nation"....

Could this be another example of Xi having little control over his rogue military?

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Taiwan lacks UN recognition, therefore is not 'independent by law'.

Like other places that lack this, there's a strong argument for it being a province of China.

Would be good to have a consistent stance of this.

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Taiwan lacks UN recognition, therefore is not 'independent by law'.

Like other places that lack this, there's a strong argument for it being a province of China.

Fascinating. I wasn't aware that the default rule in international law was that any territory in the world lacking UN recognition as an independent state automatically became part of China. The Palestinian territories aren't recognized as an independent state either, does that make the West Bank and Gaza provinces of China too?

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JJEToday 02:32 pm JST

Taiwan lacks UN recognition, therefore is not 'independent by law'.

Like other places that lack this, there's a strong argument for it being a province of China.

Would be good to have a consistent stance of this.

People that struggle with consistency would have issues understanding which conflicts are settled by law and which are settled facts on the ground for 75 years.

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If it isn’t the Russians attacking Ukraine, it’s the Chinese threatening Taiwan.

Isn’t it about time to say sayonara to Russia and China? Who needs this?

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No one is suggesting a "default rule in international law that any territory in the world lacking UN recognition as an independent state automatically became part of China". Obviously, the gist was to respective national capitals.

And highlighting the lack of consistency on the subject.

Fair guess the convenient "settled facts on the ground for 75 years" mystery rule will suffer from the same consistency issues when it conveniently comes to be applied elsewhere with the inevitable passage of time.

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commentary on state Chinese broadcaster CCTV declared them "a powerful disciplinary action" against Taiwanese separatism.

And maybe some will see the reporting of this bullying threat as more of the West's anti-Chinese propaganda. Really, there doesn't need to be that. China does a very good job of outing and humiliating itself all the time. 5000 years of nothing learned except an unsubtle and collective narcissism that can only imagine forcing others to "respect" it and do its will. Pathetic.

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Boycott China before they own you too.

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JJEToday 03:28 pm JST

Fair guess the convenient "settled facts on the ground for 75 years" mystery rule will suffer from the same consistency issues when it conveniently comes to be applied elsewhere with the inevitable passage of time.

Sure, come back to us in 75 years and you might have a point.

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Law cannot defend Taiwan, unlike some other conflicts. Only basic human decency and the US Navy and Air Force can do that.

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That won't be necessary because there is a demonstrable lack of consistency with two completely at-odds positions on how conflicts are settled depending on which way the wind blows. Specifically, "which conflicts are settled by law and which are settled facts on the ground for 75 years".

Seems like the goalposts always get moved. Must be what they call a "rules-based-order". One gets consistently confused with the contradictions, including the dismissal of the UN, which is held up as a gold standard whenever convenient (but dismissed when not and substituted for mystery rules).

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Seems like people have difficulty understanding that not all conflicts are the same. They do share a common denominator in thug countries trying to wipe their smaller neighbors off of the map, though.

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Most understand full well that not all conflicts are the same. However, the general contours are similar (breakaway regions, separatists etc).

This means one has difficulty understanding the inconsistent applications of international law, the UN and the various positions adopted to resolving such issues from certain quarters in general, and the contradictory manner in which breakaway regions are anointed and deemed worthy in particular.

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General contours mean nothing in the light of glaring differences. Let me break it down real simple for those not understanding. Person A owns a car 100% in the eyes of the law. He has a title to it and everything. The law can protect him from criminal B that tries to steal it. Person C has a car that he has driven for 75 years but maybe the title was lost 76 years ago and Person D has some record that he drove it back then. The law can only prevent Person D from committing violence on Person C and can not make a statement about who owns the car.

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Simplistic that the law can't decide ownership under this interpretation. Seems inconsistent with the concept of law, which it clearly is.

Hope this "lost title car" scenario can be consistently applied to other cases too without the inconsistent contradictions of allowing certain quarters to steal.

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If taiwan wants to be independent why doesn't it renounce its claim on china?

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Anyway if and when taiwan and china continue their civil war nobody really should meddle

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Stand tall President Lai of Taiwan. Don't get intimated by China. China is trying all sorts of intimation and scare tactics to weaken you. Let China play with fire and get itself burnt. You are a great democratic country, Taiwan.

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Beijing commenced two days of war games, dubbed "Joint Sword-2024A", as a "strong punishment" for Taiwan's "separatist acts".

It is a question of if, not when despot dictator xi Jinping tyrant government blockades Taiwan and the Strait, a vital global shipping lane.

All under he cover of a military drill.

Face the reality, prepare, Japan must consider a comprehensive off shore deterrent.

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Self-ruled Taiwan is separated by a narrow 180-kilometer strait from China, which has said it would never renounce the use of force to bring it under Beijing's control.

That's not entirely true as some Taiwanese islands are extremely close to China

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So when’s the war starting? Dream on. No war in Asia. China won’t give you the pleasure.

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If taiwan wants to be independent why doesn't it renounce its claim on china?

Because it doesn't want to be independent.

Taiwan still claims to be the rightful government of China

Which is a bit silly to say the least

It's a civil war Because Taiwan is obviously part of China's

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Person A owns a car 100% in the eyes of the law. He has a title to it and everything. The law can protect him from criminal B that tries to steal it. Person C has a car that he has driven for 75 years but maybe the title was lost 76 years ago and Person D has some record that he drove it back then. The law can only prevent Person D from committing violence on Person C and can not make a statement about who owns the car.

That you try to explain through this silly analogy shows that you’re not an American.

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China truely is the neighbour nobody likes and the one smart nations do not want to live with.

China disputes all borders with its direct neighbours, claiming they each have some Chinese territory that should be given back.

Taiwan has my sympathies, as do other nations forced to deal with a hostile, unfriendly and untrustworthy China.

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If a dictator wants war, he will get it.

Better be prepared.

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It is a question of if, not when despot dictator xi Jinping tyrant government blockades Taiwan and the Strait, a vital global shipping lane.

It is a question of when not if… is the correct usage.

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ianMay 23 06:04 pm JST

If taiwan wants to be independent why doesn't it renounce its claim on china?

The PRC is currently doing joyrides around Taiwan because it had an election. What do you think their response would be if they started altering 110 year old policy?

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quercetumMay 23 08:35 pm JST

That you try to explain through this silly analogy shows that you’re not an American.

Any story that helps you sleep at night. More power to you.

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rainyday

Fascinating. I wasn't aware that the default rule in international law was that any territory in the world lacking UN recognition as an independent state automatically became part of China. The Palestinian territories aren't recognized as an independent state either, does that make the West Bank and Gaza provinces of China too?

No, but neither does the US send weapons to Hamas in order to protect this "independent country". The way the US wants to have it both ways by a) appeasing the CCP by transferring souvereignity to Peking and b) claiming that Taiwan is independent is fascinating. Talk about having your cake and eating it.

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Taiwan didn't attack China on Oct 7th, nor did they take thousands of hostages and Taiwan hasn't been sending rockets nor bombers into China for 20 yrs.

The CCP has never, ever, had any real claim to Taiwan and more than their made up 9-dash claims. They are delusional.

Since Taiwan won't attack China, it will be Beijing who starts any war. When that happens, millions will die. Claims of being "peaceful" don't seam realistic. China has been bullying Taiwan and friends of Taiwan around the world since Xi took - yes - TOOK office.

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