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dagon
Surely there will be a lot of "ChiCom" fear mongering but I have yet to see a response as to why the CCP is jailing socialist students fighting inequality.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-politics-mao-idUSKCN1OP0EK
Could it be the modern PRC owes much more to Lee Kwan Yew one-party hypercapitalist technocracy than Marx?
I think the Chinese students know best.
Nemo
Silly little things like “evidence” or “human rights”…
Honestly, as someone who went to school studying this in the 90s, I thought that capitalism would moderate China’s behavior. It seems to have just encouraged Xi’s fascist bent.
The West needs to recognize this authoritarian expansionist regime for what it is, and to take measures while it can.
lostrune2
Just goes to reinforce further that China is NOT a "democracy with Chinese characteristics"
Constitutional government, separation of powers, and judicial independence are some of the basic tenets of a democracy. If ya don't believe in those, ya don't believe in a democracy
China is a totalitarian with Chinese characteristics - those Chinese characteristics may pretend like a democracy, but at the end of the day, it's still totalitarian by the very definition
Nemo
Indeed though it never claimed to be a democracy.
I think a better description is “Fascism with Chinese Characteristics.”
Desert Tortoise
Huh??? The CCP has always spoken of Socialism with Chinese characteristics.
EvilBuddha
American-led international order that advocates for multiparty democracy, civil society and human rights.
The US has enough allies that are neither democracies nor do they respect human rights.
Nations should become strong enough so that they don't get pushed around by American exceptionalism.
Having said that, the American version of the international order is still far better than the alternative.
Michael Machida
“Oppose and resist Western erroneous views such as ‘constitutional government,’ ‘separation of three powers,’ and ‘independence of the judiciary,’ it says.
... so that you can have all the power.
Tick, Tick, Tick... China. Tick, Tick.
rainyday
Yeah, its stuff like this which explains why everyone in China was at risk of being locked down because somebody three towns over sneezed until quite recently.
Stupid form of governance.
Moonraker
This is what 5000 years of reputed civilisation will get you, folks. What did they learn? Shouldn't China be creating a world of wisdom by now if it had learned anything? But who would want to live to their recommendations, if they had the choice? It's a miserable vision they present.
Desert Tortoise
Will reigning in Shanghai Disney be his next project?
wanderlust
Many "Western" Universities would go bankrupt without the attendance and considerable fees from Chinese students.
So a little taste of the "West" is acceptable.
Moonraker
Actually, having thought again, I may have been hasty in suggesting they have even presented a vision. Most socialist vanguards dare not present a vision beyond vague outlines because they will then be compared to that vision. They like to simply keep fighting the bogeyman and exhorting the people to do so. Then everyone is on guard against a fearful enemy which is never really defined or is defined absurdly: freedom is slavery. This is what we see here. Meanwhile the vanguards maintain their self-serving positions and keep tightening the noose on the people. And when it fails to make any sense, there is the miserable backstop of nationalism to rely on.
stormcrow
China’s a strange country, isn’t it?. It’s an economic powerhouse, yet if you are too successful they’ll take away almost everything you own and throw you into prison or a reeducation camp.
Strangerland
No the west is not, because the west is not invading other nations and murdering its innocent civilians.
This is 100% on Putin and Russia. Let's keep this back in reality mmmkay?
geronimo2006
China is turning more authoritarian under Xi. There will be no independent judiciary, media or anything else in China. Eventually absolute power will corrupt everything and China will become something like Russia (with Chinese characteristics!). Be wary Taiwan.
starpunk
More Orwellian Newspeak and 'purgings' of 'bad influences' and 'crimethink'. Big Brother with Chinese characteristics.
China does have a glorious past of cultural innovations and great scientific and artistic inventions and achievements. But when Mao and his CCP took over, all the social and intellectual progress came to a screeching halt. I saw live on NBC-TV the start of the Tiananmen Square massacre in jube 1989, that said plenty about what these brutes are really about! And now they just want to shelve all the pretense they've had before. But we know.
Socialism is an economic system that existed throughout history long before some French philosopher gave it it's name. And the CCP does not, never has and never will practice or even come close to the utopia that Marx envisioned and theorized.
That's what totalitarian is. Lies, lies, lies.
One voice.
One doubt.
One war.
One truth.
One dream.
PETER GABRIEL
bass4funk
And failed so, so many times throughout history.
I don't think you are being a keyboard warrior in China now, we both know that.
Strangerland
Let's be clear, none of the so-called "Socialist" countries in history actually practices Socialism. They were authoritarian states for whom 'socialism' or 'communism' or 'republicanism' sounds much better than 'authoritarianism'.
Whereas the actual nations of the world that do actually practice Social Democracy, rank in the tops of health, well, quality of life, safety and happiness.
wallace
There are many good socialist-type policies, even in the US. Trump had a few too.
timeon
Ironically, the party elites send their kids to US and Europe for higher education...
timeon
Forgot to say that even the daughter of the dear leader, Xi Mingze, graduated from Harvard with a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology in 2014, and she is still in the US for graduate studies.
Jasper Cole
Now only a revolution can save China from the dictatorship
Lord Dartmouth
Our own education systems are busy purging our schools of western culture too.
Sven Asai
The difference isn’t that big if you lose everything due to CCP or Xi punishment there or by wokeness and cancel culture here. Brainwashing, unified opinions, propaganda fake, surveillance and all that you find nowadays everywhere. There are luckily still some nuances left in the West, but probably more quickly shrinking than you need time to read this. And that’s surely what Xi means, the West isn’t skilled and quickly enough to withhold on copying China and China’s speed on all those topics.
lostrune2
Xi Jinping calls it that
Exploring China’s New Narrative on Democracy - Amid growing concerns about its governance, China’s leadership is attempting to emphasize its own brand of democracy with “Chinese characteristics.”
https://thediplomat.com/2019/12/exploring-chinas-new-narrative-on-democracy/
Democracy with Chinese Characteristics
https://www.shine.cn/opinion/2111258645/
TheMartin
The difference between China and America is that China doesn't pretend to have the aforementioned 'freedoms', while in America you're told you are free but are spied on, suppressed, and bombarded constantly with shady propaganda that's meant to make you happy that your overlords are treating you like dirt, or else so miserable that you become a 'worthless' drug addict. And all the while they have the audacity to think they represent all that's good and right with the world, even presuming to preach their sex-obsessed version of God and Jesus. So don't be deceived any longer: The so-called multilateral world order, which is a cover for Anglo-American hegemony, is not long for this age. Because of its own greed and short-sightedness, and penchant for total & oppressive hypocrisy.
Desert Tortoise
Go back much further. You find in tribal societies that land is more often than not owned communally rather than individually and the produce of their agriculture and hunting is shared among tribes members. The natives of North America had no concept of private property or ownership of a business. They were "socialist" eons before the word was coined. Even today among many surviving tribal societies the idea that an individual can own a piece of land just for themselves and can exclude its use by others is a perfectly alien idea they will vehemently disagree with.
Desert Tortoise
Socialism with Chinese characteristics as defined by the CPC through their party media outlet:
"First coined by Deng Xiaoping in 1982, the concept of socialism with Chinese characteristics aims to redefine the relations between planning and socialism, and market economy and capitalism. It has preserved institutions of socialism and public ownership while importing sophisticated management experience and advanced market mechanism from developed countries.
"Planning and market forces are not the essential difference between socialism and capitalism. A planned economy is not the definition of socialism, because there is planning under capitalism; the market economy happens under socialism, too. Planning and market forces are both ways of controlling economic activity," Deng explained."
https://www.cgtn.com/how-china-works/feature/What-does-path-of-socialism-with-Chinese-characteristics-mean.html
theFu
Read the Chinese Constitution which outlines their highest laws. It says lots of great things - equality, protection of culture, language, groups, education, health care, lots of great things.
There are laws against making up data in China with steep fines. Yet, when was the last time we could actually trust death counts for any disaster? That's illegal ...
Then is says, except where these conflict with state interests.
State interests vary widely from avoiding embarrassment for the govt to preventing embarrassment for any party member. We've see so many examples of these last two "exceptions". This seems to be their main reason for lying and trying to deflect when sometime bad happens anywhere else in the world. China tried to point at the Ohio train derailment accident as a way to convince people in China that the US was covering up the event (not true). It was front page new here across the country for over 3 days and NOBODY DIED. Deflection by the CCP ... to get their spy balloon off the front page. Clearly.
China claimed to be socialist, except the normal things that socialist provide to everyone aren't provided universally in China. Look at their rationing of health care, for example. Read they cut the monthly allowance for retired Chinese health care expenses over 66% a few months ago. Thousands of grandmas in Wuhan are protesting.
So much for Chinese characteristics in their socialism.
starpunk
Many religions such as Christianity and Islam have existed in China at least since 600-something AD and they have played a very large impact on Chinese history. Buddhism (from India) has been there at least for 2500 years. All of them have absorbed the local culture and language. I guess Xi wants them all to play 'yes man' to the CCP and himself. That's not what religion is about and nor should it ever be.