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China reports 20,000 daily COVID cases; most since start of pandemic

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That's really rough, best wishes to them. They've handled it so well until now, I hope it doesn't fall apart on them. I have friends there, and I hope that everything works out for them.

One point of good news to highlight is that the fatality rate, at least, remains extremely low. As we all know by now though, people can have a lot of serious long-term complications without dying.

A top Shanghai official has conceded that the financial hub had been "insufficiently prepared" for the outbreak.

Definitely seems like it, they were way slower to respond than we have typically seen from China. Not sure how much was being unprepared and how much was fear of damaging businesses. Either way they are paying the cost now.

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China's zero-COVID strategy is some bad juju for its citizens. None of my Chinese friends want to or can't go visit their families because of this strategy.

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Own Karma

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Lockdowns (especially extreme ones) are very effective at slowing the spread of COVID and saving people's lives and China is a shining example (if you don't mind being under very strict rules!).

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The majority of the cases are, however, asymptomatic.

Yeah so the disgusting country that China is, is now basically using the COVID excuse to exercise even more totalitarianism and control on its population. The mentally deranged nutheads leading this country have found a perfect reason for that.

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And if they report 20K you can bet the real number is much higher. Zero Covid is a proven failure.

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Complete fiction. Impossible to believe any data from China regarding covid.

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JexanToday  03:06 pm JST

And if they report 20K you can bet the real number is much higher. Zero Covid is a proven failure.

It's easy to say until you, a family member or friends dies because of COVID.

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That many? that’s just bat crazy,

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Own Karma

agree

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The only thing that dramatically increases here is your math or number illiteracy. lol

Most areas on this planet would be quite happy if they had such extremely low infection rates compared to the size of population.

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Complete fiction. Impossible to believe any data from China regarding covid.

where's the European data, a huge influx of unvaccinated and no spikes that's got to be fiction

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CCP can make some enormous policy blunders which is an outcome of autocracy. Crushing desent results in policy being unquestioned. Clearly wrong.

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Seems like their total deceit is coming back to bug them - this disgustingly repressive state which inflicted the Chinavirus on the world's population just keeps rolling round the globe with death-figures in the 5.5million-plus region, and infection-numbers of over 3 billion people.

It's way past time they issued their apologies and compensation to everyone who has suffered by their filthy deeds - they are a Total Disgrace to the civilised world, which is why I always avoid anything whatsoever to do with China, and urge others to do the same.

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where's the European data, a huge influx of unvaccinated and no spikes that's got to be fiction

Europe is seeing a surge in Covid-19 cases driven by the BA.2 variant.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ba2-surging-europe-contagious-omicron-us-covid-19-2022-3?op=1

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/03/13/covid-cases-rising-europe/7026697001/

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/17/europes-covid-spike-has-biden-officials-concerned-could-lead-to-return-of-masks-00018159

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Rulers of China, and that Xi has planned all along to replace his adversaries Shanghai & Hong Kong presence with those Loyal to himself.

Such factional battles within the CCP are not new. The Shanghai faction has been in and out of power several times over the years. Their patron is Shanghai born and educated Jiang Ximen who retains influence in the party. Xi Jinping has been using claims of fighting "corruption" to jail leaders of adversary factions within the CCP including close friends of Jiang Ximen and within the PLA who tried to depose Xi in a failed coup attempt circa August or September 2017. One of the reasons Xi had age limits removed for members of the Politburo Standing Committee was to keep his loyalists in place at the highest level of CCP power. Xi has a lot of enemies within the party and has to watch his back constantly.

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Can anyone believe the CCP that there's no death, and that cases are asymptomatic? This tragedy on Shanghai citizens is mostly because of CCP propaganda (lies) on the effectiveness (not) of Sinovac.

I would hope people aren't suffering too much there in Shanghai, because reports are that hunger and sufferings is rife with not enough food, and no medical treatments even for chronic pain.

For a more accurate picture, look at Hong Kong, a lot of deaths, a lot of hospitalisation, and severe symptoms, with many cases traced back to Shenzen in China. You won't hear the truth from the authorities or the WHO (who is deeply compromised by CCP politics), you will only get a sincere picture from local health wworkers.

IMO, as sad as it is for Japanese tourism businesses, keeping tourists (especially Chinese) out of Japan is very prudent. May be Japan should start preparation for classifying origins if tourists so as to enable safe opening up, because it will be a long and dangerous for China to be truthful or effective in its covid management.

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Cases are up as the newest variant is very contagious but doesn’t give rise to grave illness.

And yes, I know two or three with it right now.

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@kurisupisu

I hope you're right, Chinese people are not at fault here, only the CCP. The media is reporting deaths in elderly and health workers even, which is consistent with Hong Kong and Indonesia (who used the Sinovac to vaccination their health workers).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/world/asia/china-covid-shanghai.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/deaths-at-shanghai-elderly-facility-spark-a-dispute-over-cremation-11649262740

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But yet there are people that keep defending this failed approach as if it was even remotely successful, people that are willing to openly lie to avoid recognizing the CCP is failing the people of China by refusing to listen to the science that demonstrate their commitment as unjustified and counterproductive.

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China reported over 20,000 COVID-19 cases on Wednesday, 

Japan reported what, about 54,000? In a country with 1/10th the population of China?

virusrexToday  07:31 am JST

But yet there are people that keep defending this failed approach as if it was even remotely successful, people that are willing to openly lie to avoid recognizing the CCP is failing the people of China by refusing to listen to the science that demonstrate their commitment as unjustified and counterproductive.

Some simple math, and one can easily see which policy is working better at preventing infections and deaths by Covid.

Unless there are other sources out there to the contrary.

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Some simple math, and one can easily see which policy is working better at preventing infections and deaths by Covid.

Trying to ignore the fact that the zero covid policy is not the best approach does nothing to deny how it has damaged terribly the economy and public health in China, that the CCP has systematically hidden COVID death (as in the references in this article) and that it can cause more deaths that what it prevents when compared with much more scientifically responsible policies like in New Zealand.

Your own source proved China has not the lowest death rates by COVID, and that was even without including the (obviously Chinese) deaths from Hong Kong. At this point this policy has no defense possible.

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