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China softens tone on COVID severity after protests

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By Bernard Orr and Martin Quin Pollard

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Chalk one up for the people! Good on them and keep it up!

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Great job China in sustaining successfully a zero covid policy that resulted in the lowest infection and death rate in the world.

And there goes the narrative that China is trying to "control" its population with lockdowns.

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Health experts warn of widespread illness and death if COVID is let loose before vaccination is ramped up.

China has 89% full vaccination.

Why the need to ramp up?

The mantra in China is “scientific and effective” and that’s repeated on every media source non-stop.

But the booster uptake is only 56%.

The Chinese people aren’t buying the narrative anymore but the Chinese government can’t backtrack on 2 years of massive lies.

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There are Tik Tok video clips that openly criticize the CCP and praise the Nanking University students' protests against the CCP's handling of the lockdowns. I've seen ones calling for Xi Jinping to step down. These are a dime a dozen and are not censored at all, dispelling the myth that the Chinese cannot openly express their political views.

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@quercetum

You're just seeing videos that haven't been deleted yet and their creators haven't been taken to reeducation camps yet. That or they were created in another country.

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And there goes the narrative that China is trying to "control" its population with lockdowns.

Nah. Looks like the CCP is scared of what the population will do. Can't stay locked up for ever especially when the World Cup is showing a different reality

Sun Chunlan says Omicron less pathogenic

I wonder what the scientists think?

And there goes the narrative that China is trying to "control" its population with lockdowns.

While the recent change in tone over COVID appears to respond to the public discontent with the strictness of the measures, authorities are in parallel seeking out those who were present at the demonstrations.

It seems clear to me! Hurray!

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Any day now they will start blaming western imperialism, the US.

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Everyone deserves freedom and a break from a crazy government!!

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China has 89% full vaccination

Nice stat! Where did that come from?

A major problem, from what I've read, is that their elderly population, a large percentage of their demographic, is woefully unvaccinated - and these are precisely the people most susceptible.

Far from agreeing with the PRC's gambit - I'm saying they've screwed up and are trying to cover their tracks as winter is here.

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Great job China in sustaining successfully a zero covid policy that resulted in the lowest infection and death rate in the world.

If the measures are changed that means they are not sustaining it, on the opposite they are giving it on it and replacing it with "some covid is ok" policy. Also it is very easy to have low rates when covid deaths are hidden by reporting them as consequence of any other disease the victim may have (and not reporting any of the deaths produced by the measures directly). If other countries did the same there would be more than a dozen other countries with lower rates than China.

And there goes the narrative that China is trying to "control" its population with lockdowns.

It does, that is the whole purpose of lockdowns, control the population. Vaccination and reducing the risk after infection is a much more efficient method, but also reduces the amount of control necessary.

China has 89% full vaccination.

Why the need to ramp up?

Because a very large percent of those vaccinations are done with a subpar vaccine with much reduced efficacy, it also considers "fully" vaccinated people even if they have had no booster even if they were vaccinated more than a year ago, which for the current variants means they are still at a significative risk.

The mantra in China is “scientific and effective” and that’s repeated on every media source non-stop.

The problem is that the Chinese policy is not scientific nor effective (at least not efficient) according to the opinion of international health authorities and experts. If the Chinese government goes against the best available evidence of what constitutes effective protection that means they are the ones that need to rectify the policy.

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If pursuing Zero Covid was a University Course, the PRC just got kicked out the classroom. What an absolute humiliation.

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Hopefully this help the people in China realize how powerful they can be when the eyes of the world are watching. I hope they continue to resist the tyranny of the CCP.

China deserves to be held accountable for creating, leaking, and denying the fault for COVID on the rest of the world. I truly hope their Communist reign is seeing its final sunset.

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Any day now they will start blaming western imperialism, the US.

Don't forget NATO and Nazis, they are the current boogeymen for people who wish to cause suffering.

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Who says Sport can't bring people together (even if it is a sportwashing Autocracy bribing its way to hosting and building the venues on slave migrant labor, but I digress....)?

The Chinese saw people maskless having a ball in large groups at the World Cup (Involuntarily sober, but again, I digress...) and got really, REALLY mad.

And then they saw voters in Taiwan getting to vote for their own government - again - as if it was no big deal (because to Taiwanese, it's not) and started to wonder "Why can't we have that?"

This was the equivelent of mixing gasoline with Nitro (If that is such a thing. I am not much on chemistry. Let's imagine that's a thing for rhetorical purposes....)

And THEN people locked in their own building died in a fire because they could not escape.

Nitro-gas, meet blow-torch.

That is what happened here.

There comes a tipping point, beyond which half -measures and token gestures are no longer effective. I think we blew through that point when the people died. The fact that it was Ughers (forgive the misspelling, I am short on time for once) in Xinang and the protesters were ethinic Han gives one an idea of how universally offensive the measures are.

Will the people persist? Will the government successfully crackdown?

I have not clue one. But it gives hope to the heart of a middle-aged man who as a young man watched the PLA machine gun and run down its own citizens at the direction of the Butcher of Beijing Li Peng and his CCP ilk.

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The Chinese should do what it takes to keep many of their citizen alive,not like a bunch of American,with suicide tendencies 1 out of 300 American died from COVID-19,,the effects of COVID is coming to a courtroom,with lots of wrongful deaths lawsuits Google COVID Wrongful Death Lawsuit

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Wow, that was fast. For the CCP of all political entities to change their tune that quickly, there must have been some eminent danger to their existence from the inside, like a military coup, or that they could stand down and let the protestors do it for them.

Though, I find it all kind of hard to buy. Typically caving into protestors is seen as a sign of weakness. Not only that, but they were literally just constructing quarantine cities a few days ago. Are they actually planning on repurposing those into concentration camps to punish the protestors?

Great job China in sustaining successfully a zero covid policy that resulted in the lowest infection and death rate in the world.

And there goes the narrative that China is trying to "control" its population with lockdowns.

Sorry, but you're taking the L on this one. Zero Covid wasn't just a disaster for Chinese people. It was a disaster for the world economy. When you control that much of the worlds manufacturing and thus everyone depends on you, you are expected to behave more responsibly.

I don't think the protestors should stop. They need to keep hitting now while the state is still one of chaos and confusion. Get a few guys in the inside. Turn people in the CCP against each other. Otherwise they will just bounce back.

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1 out of 300 American died from COVID-19

the effects of COVID is coming to a courtroom,

with lots of wrongful deaths lawsuits

1 out of 300 Americans are lawyers.

16 million lawsuits were filed in 2003, worth $40 billion. I’m sure that figure has increased dramatically since then. Suing is America’s favourite pastime

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Great job China in sustaining successfully a zero covid policy that resulted in the lowest infection and death rate in the world.

And there goes the narrative that China is trying to "control" its population with lockdowns.

Well of course, since they have been on lock down every time there is a new case. The virus hasn't gone anywhere, once they give up on their zero policy which they eventually will have to do they will go through the same thing every other country has.

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Why is the Chinese government so afraid of Covid spreading around the country when there are no reports of death? Only reports of the spreading? If there are no deaths from Covid why parallize movement in the cities and towns and, the whole country? Movement is life. So why punish the population for revolting? Because they want to live ?

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It is definitely a strange one! Either the Chinese govt knows something they are not telling anyone or they are just in over authoritarian mode. The prior scares me the latter saddens me but would be the better outcome for the world being that the vaccines do stop contagion!

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

DO NoT Stop contagion!!! gee a 3 minute edit window would be nice!

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