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China steps up anti-COVID measures in megacities as infections mount

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Glad I don't live in China.

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OH, I hope they can get the infections under control quickly. Sounds terrible diseases and out of control horrible.

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Shanghai and other big Chinese cities, including Shenzhen, have ramped up testing for COVID-19 as infections rise, with some local authorities hastily closing schools, entertainment venues and tourist spots.

Zero covid is the best covid.

The vaccinations don't prevent transmission of the virus anyway,. In contrast to what Dr, Fauci said.

Even Pfizer's director admitted so,

Therefore, other measures must be taken; in contrast to what the West employs, and the resultant millions of deaths.

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SpeedToday  01:24 pm JST

Glad I don't live in China

yet the j-gov just started allowing free entry of all Sinovac-vaxed foreigners, just to boost the economy and their own popularity.

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200 million people affected because the Chinese goverment prioritizes control and oppression instead of a responsible management of the risk as other countries have achieved thanks to vaccination and opportune treatment of disease. Destroying the local economy, causing deaths because of a lack of access to health services, degradation of the human rights of the population are completely unnecessary as demonstrated by examples of countries that have lower death rates (so low that they do not need to hide deaths where patients have any other comorbidity) without even needing mass lockdowns to achieve it.

There is a reason why the zero covid policy is not being praised by international experts and instead other countries are being used as examples of control of the pandemic. Protecting lives and the economy at the same time thanks to a decreased risk even to vulnerable segments of the population.

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The vaccinations don't prevent transmission of the virus anyway,. In contrast to what Dr, Fauci said.

Even Pfizer's director admitted so,

they do drastically reduce your chances of hospitalisation and long covid. Facts back by multiple different studies in different countries. No different to a flu vaccine.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/preliminary-data-indicate-covid-19-vaccines-remain-effective-against-severe-disease-hospitalisation

https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/vaccination-reduces-covid-19-hospital-admissions-nihr-study-suggests/27032

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Speed - I came SO close to living there. I'd studied there in the '80s and only came to Japan as a waystation on my way back - but met my wife, so had to learn a new language. I thank my lucky stars.

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I live in what was the most locked down state of Australia (WA) but we couldn’t stop it once our state borders opened to the rest of the country and then the world.

Zero covid sounds like an impossibility.

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Despite China's very small caseload versus the rest of the world, and the toll its counter-epidemic policies exact on the economy and population, the government has repeatedly urged people to accept the measures.

Imagine that--a government that cares about its citizens' lives.

200 million people affected because the Chinese goverment prioritizes control and oppression instead of a responsible management of the risk as other countries have achieved thanks to vaccination and opportune treatment of disease.

330 million people were affected by US covid policies.

And control and oppression--sounds like a conspiracy! I guess Australis, the UK, New Zealand--all were prioritizing control and oppression instead of a responsible management that resulted in millions of deaths in Europe.

Destroying the local economy, causing deaths because of a lack of access to health services, degradation of the human rights of the population are completely unnecessary as demonstrated by examples of countries that have lower death rates (so low that they do not need to hide deaths where patients have any other comorbidity) without even needing mass lockdowns to achieve it.

Destroying the local economy--yes, Australia and New Zealand were in recessions--and the UK is in one or heading into one now. Darn vaccines!

And in the face of it according to global experts and statistical data China comes out on top by having the lowest infection and Covid related death rates in the world.

But shame on China for not listening to the experts. Like the WHO. Which advised against wearing masks.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html

There is a reason why the zero covid policy is not being praised by international experts and instead other countries are being used as examples of control of the pandemic. Protecting lives and the economy at the same time thanks to a decreased risk even to vulnerable segments of the population.

There is a reason--the countries relied on "experts" like Dr. Fauci, who said the vaccines would protect against transmission. Worked great in the US--over 1 million dead.

Almost all of Europe in heading towards a recession and inflation and prices keep rising in the US---have not seen any expert advocating whatever policies are sending those places into economic turmoil.

All the while China continues to be the only country that experienced positive economic growth throughout the crisis.

Poor China--highest economic growth, lowest Covid related death rate and infections.

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330 million people were affected by US covid policies.

That has no importance because the US is not the example of a country that did well against covid, it is just the one you want to use to compare as if it was the best other countries have to offer, which is obviously not true.

And control and oppression--sounds like a conspiracy

Lockdowns (specially unnecessary ones) are a clear form of control and oppression, there is no conspiracy necessary, it is simply a description of what is being done.

Destroying the local economy--yes, Australia and New Zealand were in recessions--and the UK is in one or heading into one now. Darn vaccines!

Is the lack of lockdowns making things harder or easier on the examples you are using?

And again, if other countries are doing better without any lockdowns then it is not important that the examples you want to use are doing worse, because for the zero covid policy to be justified it is necessary for no other country to do as well or even better.

And in the face of it according to global experts and statistical data China comes out on top by having the lowest infection and Covid related death rates in the world.

If the statistics require the 95% of the deaths to be unreported because any comorbidity is blamed then obviously this is not true. If others countries do the same then there are more than a dozen other countries with lower death rates, and without zero covid policy to cause extra deaths (also not counted).

But shame on China for not listening to the experts. Like the WHO. Which advised against wearing masks.

You keep repeatin this false mischaracterization, the CDC, EMA, WHO all recommended masks, but prioritizing their use in hospitals and with symptomatic patients, as the evidence at the time said was justified.

You said you had references from before the pandemic that proved masks were useful when used by asymptomatic people on the street, you have never produced said reference. That discredits your misrepresentation.

There is a reason--the countries relied on "experts" like Dr. Fauci, who said the vaccines would protect against transmission. Worked great in the US--over 1 million dead.

From the very beginnin, even before vaccines were developed the experts warned that variants could make previous immunity less effective which is exactly what happened, so no, the experts clearly said this was a very likely possibility, but vaccines still produce a very drastic reduction of risk, which means they can be used instead of the lockdowns (that again, you have said are negative and unnecessary) which is what the scientific consensus say is the best way to protect from covid.

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The down side of having such a large population.

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I live in what was the most locked down state of Australia (WA) but we couldn’t stop it once our state borders opened to the rest of the country and then the world.

Zero covid sounds like an impossibility.

Indeed. And there were plenty among us that tried to point this out at various times throughout the pandemic, only to be dismissed as a bunch of far-right, Trump-supporting, Brexit lovin’, anti-science, grandma-killing, MAGA hat wearing, non citizen conspiracy theorists.

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China's gift to the world just keeps on giving.

When is this disgusting and repressive country going to be held to account, for all of the deaths and misery it has inflicted on the people of this world ??

I've had a terrible bout of the Chinavirus, which even after 4 months has left me with a residual cough, memory-lapses, and tiredness feelings which I've never experienced in my life - I want compensating for this suffering.

Imagine if it was the Brits or the French who'd infected the world's populations like this, we would never hear the end of it, but because China is somehow considered 'special' and can't be criticised, they just get away with it as though nothing happened.

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Once Xi retains his leadership for another 5 years he will unleash 200 million people which will have mental disorders from being locked up. I predict mass suicides if it continues!!

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Good news. At least they do something there, probably because they also understood the importance to focus on the long term effects which will cost much more than a slower economic development due to some restrictions now.

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Saw that Hong Kong is giving away 500,000 airline tickets trying to get visitors to return.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63153795

Zero COVID is impossible, unless you shut down the country completely and start moving everyone through a 3-week filter point.

Of course, the vaccines are proven to reduce the "virus load", which is something they learned from efforts to treat HIV after almost 40 yrs of study. People formerly with HIV are living relatively normal lives. There's a 90 day does injection to make life easier for these people. The HIV virus isn't detectable in the people under these treatments. They use 3 drugs to control it. When the treatment first started, the number of pills daily was like having another meal. The drug companies refined it do 1 pill a day. Next they had a slow release injection good for 30 days https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-extended-release-injectable-drug-regimen-adults-living-hiv and now for 90 days. I can foresee a day when a slow release injection will last 10 yrs. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7112a2.htm Unfortunately, the drugs cost over $2000/month.

COVID spreads much easier, but the same idea about viral load applies. Keep the load low enough that it isn't detectable and the vaccines can prevent the spread.

COVID is here forever. Until the CCP realizes that, they will have every person inside China under their thumb screws. I'm a little surprised that the Chinese people haven't thrown out their current leaders already.

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The US can only dream of doing the amount of damage to China and the CCP that Xi's Covid Zero and sector crackdowns have done.

Maybe the CIA replaced him with a doppelgänger tasked with taking down the regime.

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I have very fond memories of everyone I encountered there, despite the food being generally terrible. 

An unexpected comment. One of the few things I enjoyed on my trips to Shanghai was the food.

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Maybe the CIA replaced him with a doppelgänger tasked with taking down the regime.

At the party congress later this month the CCP might just give Xi Jinping a third term as CCP General Secretary and PRC President. If that happens it is safe to assume Xi will be President for life like Mao was. No need for your doppleganger. Xi is his own one man wrecking crew, a Maoist true believer who will drive their economy and society into the ditch much as Mao did.

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In China, People are sensible, they do not trust the Government, with good reason, and that, is primarily why, the uptake, of the inoculations there has been low.

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