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China needs to stop it's own misguided actions like threatening and working against Taiwan, militarizing the South China Sea, stealing technology, sending hordes of propaganda trolls into every news related site on the internet.

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Years ago, before I went to China and before I studied the country, I thought China and the Chinese might prove to be worthy of respect by all, but now I believe I was mistaken. The country is one massive storm of deceit, greed, subterfuge, and totally lacks any shame about it at all. Rip off and copy anything they can get their hands on. Investors must hand over technical data. And manners...... sure they're new to the 21st century, but good lord, it is beyond belief. And when they don't get their way.... they just plop down, sit there and whine in protest. A more self righteous people I've never seen. I've seen them walk straight up to a blond haired foreigner to touch and sniff that person's hair.... like the person was an animal at a zoo. Think about that.... to not even fathom it an inappropriate thing to do. I should never have read The Good Earth.

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Conservatives sure are pumping out the "China is the real threat" deflection. Love the use of "hordes" when describing the amount of trolls. Where have I heard hordes used in conjunction with China before?

This sudden feverish finger pointing at China couldn't be to deflect away from Russia before the midterms, could it?

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Stay the course, Trump and Pompeo. PRC is being forced to play fair now in trade with USA and doesn't like it. American jobs and economy are booming as result. Other Nations will surely adopt the wise tariffs against PRC by Trump. China GDP will begin to fall.

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Stay the course, Trump and Pompeo. PRC is being forced to play fair now in trade with USA and doesn't like it. American jobs and economy are booming as result

This is demonstrably false. The economy was roaring along long before Trump started this trade war.

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Believe me, Trump is planning on blaming China for election interference once the Democrats win the house. He is already laying the groundwork. This is all pre-planned. He neglects to mention any Russian interference only Chinese interference. Trump is desperate because once the Democrats take over the house his tax returns will finally be turned over and there will finally be real oversight not Devin Nunes bogus oversight.

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The country is one massive storm of deceit, greed, subterfuge, and totally lacks any shame about it at all.

This has been my experience, though not for 100% of the Chinese I've met. Perhaps not even most, but definitely a much higher percentage as experienced in other countries.

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Conservatives sure are pumping out the "China is the real threat" deflection. Love the use of "hordes" when describing the amount of trolls. Where have I heard hordes used in conjunction with China before?

This sudden feverish finger pointing at China couldn't be to deflect away from Russia before the midterms, could it?

One again, the system is preventing me from upvoting Chip Star.

I agree - it's very much the latest ploy to focus the narrative on China, rather than Russia. That said, both countries are well capable of propaganda and online armies who spread misinformation and foment unrest.

And Xi's China is not a place to deviate from the party line and people who do, are arrested, disappeared etc.

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I disagree with Trump on MANY things, but standing up to China is not one of them. Its about time for someone to push back.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi had a tetchy exchange in Beijing

tetchy exchange? The man looks like he doesn't want to touch his chinese counterpart.

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Unfortunately, any conflicts between US and China will be at the cost of Japan and other small/developing countries. The trade war already cost Japan a lot, and will cost Japan even more. In a prolonged conflict, only super, resilient and adaptive one wins. Is Japan super ? Is Japan resilient ? Is Japan adaptive ? Of course not even Abe can tell.

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I agree - it's very much the latest ploy to focus the narrative on China, rather than Russia. 

Economically, China represents a serious threat to U.S industry going forward, Russia? far less so. That is the difference between the two. Its only natural that the U.S uses the tools they have to protect the interests of their people and its companies/businesses.

I think the U.S and China should have a relationship where each doesn't seek to poke the other in the eye, especially on territorial and defense matters, where communication lines are open and where there is some degree of attempting to work cooperatively on what are globally important issues, like North Korea and say climate change and terrorism and others.

But that's pretty much where its going to end.

The U.S has, in its DNA, a constitution designed to fight exactly the sort of government overreach that the CCP is embarking upon on China and does little to discourage elsewhere, like Cambodia. They are and always will be fundamentally different in how they view the world.

There is no escaping that. Unless the U.S becomes a socialist semi dictatorship or China becomes a democratic republic, that is what we are stuck with.

The U.S while still strong internationally - in areas of soft power and militarily actually has a domestic crisis that China is on the verge of solving. There are vast swathes of the U.S left behind. Its infrastructure in many instances is bordering on third world. Even compared to Europe, the U.S is falling behind domestically. There are also very strong security concerns surrounding high tech - 5G, dodgy chips (which Apple etc still deny) and of course the fact that Chinese companies must work with the CCP on national security which makes working with Chinese companies increasingly problematic, especially in high tech.

It is absolutely necessary that the outsourcing of American industry to China is ended in order to drive economic activity and skill development to rebuild the United States. A lot of industry can never return. It will find its way to S.E Asia or South America or India and that's fine, but what can be made in the U.S, should be made in the U.S. The skills generated, taxes etc should all be funneled into a massive infrastructure program.

In terms of Taiwan, the U.S needs to figure out how to deter Chinese aggression but at the end of the day is no real position to stop China if it really wants to push the issue and take Taiwan by force. Plan B needs to be humanitarian for Taiwanese. Hong Kong is a bust. It is and will eventually be swallowed. The South China Sea is an area where Japan must be front and center and its in the interest of the Japanese to do so considering just how important and fundamental South East Asia is to Japan Inc. America should seek to back Japan up and others that want to maintain the status quo on freight etc.

In terms of regions, its far important, in my view, that America re-engages with South America. North Asia is important, Europe and S.E.A are important but nothing should be as important to North America as South America. It only makes sense. The U.S cannot afford to have China eat its lunch in its own backyard.

It baffles me as a non American that so little emphasis is put on your own backyard, despite the history of dodgy CIA ops,, attempted coups etc. Its time for the U.S to turn a page on its relationship with South American countries, especially major countries like Brazil.

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Unfortunately, China is very likely to follow US example to put tariffs on anything flow to Chinese market. Japan must be prepared for the eventuality. Without Market, Japan and all small nations will die, as simple as that.

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Unfortunately, any conflicts between US and China will be at the cost of Japan and other small/developing countries. The trade war already cost Japan a lot, and will cost Japan even more. In a prolonged conflict, only super, resilient and adaptive one wins. Is Japan super ? Is Japan resilient ? Is Japan adaptive ? Of course not even Abe can tell.

Japan should play the middle course. There is no need to make an overt selection between China and the U.S.

Seek both to maintain the security relationship with the U.S AND try to get better trade ties with China and avoid any nasty incidents. Don't allow America to push you into a war that you cannot win, such as in military support of Taiwan, but by the same token, defend what is Japanese territory and Japanese interests.

Japan is resilient and adaptive, absolutely. I have confidence that Japan will figure out its best path forward.

Japan will always have the support of the West if it maintains its democracy. It is, along with South Korea, the most reliable, trusted and best example of the democratic path to development in Asia.

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Chip StarToday 07:03 am JST

Conservatives sure are pumping out the "China is the real threat" deflection. Love the use of "hordes"when describing the amount of trolls. Where have I heard hordes used in conjunction with China before?

I don't know, where did you hear it before?

This sudden feverish finger pointing at China couldn't be to deflect away from Russia before the midterms, could it?

Sudden? I remember Trump harping on China in 2016.

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China GDP will begin to fall.

nah wont happen slow down maybe, what many fail to realise if Chinas exports only account for 20% of its total GDP, 19% of all Chinese exports go to the US which makes that around 3% of it GDP, No China may have some pain at the loss of business but itll only accelerate it plans to be more technological self efficient, Chinese company are already moving in that direction. WHether you like their tactics or not theres nothing stopping Chinas advancement the sooner people come to realise this the easier itll be to negotiate. War isnt an option, China could sacrifice 2 Chinese for every US citizen and theyd still have half a billion people left, Itd make Vietnam look like a picnic the political backlash would leave Trump in the scrap heap, and yes China has more than enough nukes for every major US city, so that isnt the trump card many fall back on.

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"Believe me, Trump is planning on blaming China for election interference once the Democrats win the house."

Believe me, the Democrats aren't going to win the House, they done shot themselves in the foot with this Kavanaugh BS. Of course they won't admit to that, they'll be blaming Russia for election interference.

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The charade continues for silent partners US and China.

Pompeo should be ashamed of himself shaking hands with communist Kim and Wang while totally snubbing Present English Tsai of democratic ROC -TW.

Mickey should also go to Taipei and update President Tsai about the NK denuclearization process and change the name AIT to American Embassy in Taiwan.

Otherwise the neighboring nations would be questioning America's roughshod treatment of an ally like TW in contrast to Washington's super cozy almost romantic grand VIP treatment of dictators.

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Japan should join hands with China & with all Asian countries.In order to have all Asian countries in harmony.

How abt putting away , all past events and go forward.Japan appologize and China and Korea accepts &

the rest of Asia looks on.

History is what is visible that had happened. Peace & Understanding is best for the people & trade.

ONE ASIA,how lovely. World war two had been over for almost 75 years, Japan always bowing to America is not a good solution.The good solution is admit What had happened is the truth.

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nah wont happen slow down maybe, what many fail to realise if Chinas exports only account for 20% of its total GDP, 19% of all Chinese exports go to the US which makes that around 3% of it GDP, 

Totally agree. People overplay the importance of trade to both countries. Both are increasingly reliant on services. China is increasingly focused on services in its own country to generate employment and growth and of course the U.S has been a service economy for a couple decades at least. Not only that, but China's backyard is Asia and America's backyard is the America's. Canada and Mexico are more important to the U.S than China will ever be, even though their combined populations are a shadow of China. Its all about geography. Its why Europe is most important Germans and French.

No China may have some pain at the loss of business but itll only accelerate it plans to be more technological self efficient, Chinese company are already moving in that direction.

Absolutely and they have every right to do so. They want to move up the value chain. Doesn't mean the U.S should help them do it and forfeit their own opportunities in the process.

WHether you like their tactics or not theres nothing stopping Chinas advancement the sooner people come to realise this the easier itll be to negotiate. 

I don't think they can negotiate beyond an agreement to cooperate on global matters and avoid military confrontation. The differences between the U.S and China are so vast in virtually every area and its not changing, its becoming more intense as China becomes more authoritarian and as the U.S pulls back from trade with China and generally annoys them with the SCS etc.

And that's before you even consider the VAST differences in culture and language.

War isnt an option, China could sacrifice 2 Chinese for every US citizen and theyd still have half a billion people left, Itd make Vietnam look like a picnic the political backlash would leave Trump in the scrap heap, and yes China has more than enough nukes for every major US city, so that isnt the trump card many fall back on.

People make the mistake of thinking that a war between the U.S and China would just be between the U.S and China. If China attacks the U.S, they will be fighting the entire Western world. Make no mistake about it and the West would probably be fighting Russia as well. Who knows what Russia would do, but its absolutely certain that Europe, the U.K, Canada, Australia, N.Z and many other countries will line up behind the U.S. Trump is a blip on the radar. Political, historical, cultural and some in cases, language ties are infinitely stronger than Trumps nonsense. They have no choice. If the U.S falls, it will be dominoes and they all know it.

It will also be nuclear, almost certainly, so lets all hope that they both agree to pull back from insanity.

China has more than enough nukes for every major US city, so that isnt the trump card many fall back on.

And the U.S and its allies has more than enough nukes to saturate China. Easily. And there being upgraded.

There is no choice but to avoid war and conflict.

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One again, the system is preventing me from upvoting Chip Star.

Not the first time, certainly won't be the last.

I don't know, where did you hear it before?

Sudden? I remember Trump harping on China in 2016.

The "China meddling in elections" narrative started at the end of September. The source was Trump.

Trump going after China on trade is nothing new.

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@serrano they'll be blaming Russia for election interference.

Only Russians and their US backers refuse to admit Russia interfered in US elections.

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For once, the US is on the receiving end!

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