Chinese 'police stations' in Canada under investigation

I thought this was really sinister until I read this:

"pressure Chinese nationals to return to China to face criminal charges."

I'm in favour of that. Canada is a refuge for the scariest and most dangerous Chinese criminals. The RCMP attache in HK warned in the 90s that the Snakeheads were planning to base themselves in Canada ahead of the HK handover. His diplomatic cable was ignored by Ottawa.

A recent BC commission found that organized Chinese crime activities linking money laundering, fentanyl, and gambling represents a level of criminality never seen before in Canada. Canada's courts have shown themselves incapable of prosecuting these global masterminds, so having communist hardliners go after them is probably the best way of kicking them out of Canada and facing justice.

It is worrisome and seems to be an organized campaign of harassment to suppress dissent.

https://news.yahoo.com/chinese-students-filmed-shouting-japanese-222749778.html

According to the original report, another Chinese police station is illegally located in Tokyo

https://safeguarddefenders.com/sites/default/files/pdf/110%20Overseas%20(3).pdf

I'm in favour of that. Canada is a refuge for the scariest and most dangerous Chinese criminals. The RCMP attache in HK warned in the 90s that the Snakeheads were planning to base themselves in Canada ahead of the HK handover. His diplomatic cable was ignored by Ottawa.

They don't necessarily hunt down the Chinese mafia. Most real targets are political dissidents, critics or "public enemies" to the CCP. And their extended extraterritoriality infringes Canada's sovereign.

China, however, denied accusations of illegal activity, saying the locations simply offer services -- such as driver's license renewals -- to Chinese nationals abroad.

Slowly, China is creeping into all aspects of our lives. Buying businesses, houses, farmland, government bonds at all levels, establishing lobbies, establishing a strong presence in South America, etc. China may smile and act like they’re our friends, but they have a much more sinister goal in mind. Canada better wake up before it’s too late.

Espionage, persecution and intimidation are not services. They are however a violation of the sovereignty of the nations where they are carrying out these operations.

During the 2021 national election in Canada, foreign actors from China were active on WeChat and may have interfered in the outcome of the democratic process against the Conservative party which had promised to get tough on China. The winning political party swept it under the table as the beneficiaries of Chinese influence.

These police stations were reported in some alternative Canadian media weeks ago. It should not have taken this long to investigate them.

I'm in favour of that. Canada is a refuge for the scariest and most dangerous Chinese criminals. 

Its ridiculous to think this is being used by the Chinese government to force hardened criminals in Canada to return to China for punishment.

A) Hardened criminals aren’t generally succeptible to the kinds of pressure being described in the article. Harrassment isn’t going to convince them to return to a country where the death penalty awaits.

B) If there are Chinese gangsters comitting crimes in Canada, China don’t care.

C) Regular people on the other hand like dissidents, human rights activists, etc who are wanted for breaking China’s draconian political laws, are an obvious target. They aren’t hardened criminals so harrassment and threats can work on them. And unlike common criminals the Chinese government actually does care about what those people are doing in Canada since they want to clamp down on anything critical of the CCP or Xi personally no matter where it happens.

Unlike you, as a Canadian I am SUPER NOT COOL with a hostile communist dictatorship setting up institutions for its political repression system in my country. Screw that idea a million times over.

JeffLeeToday  07:56 am JST

I thought this was really sinister until I read this:

"pressure Chinese nationals to return to China to face criminal charges."

I'm in favour of that. Canada is a refuge for the scariest and most dangerous Chinese criminals. The RCMP attache in HK warned in the 90s that the Snakeheads were planning to base themselves in Canada ahead of the HK handover. His diplomatic cable was ignored by Ottawa.

A recent BC commission found that organized Chinese crime activities linking money laundering, fentanyl, and gambling represents a level of criminality never seen before in Canada. Canada's courts have shown themselves incapable of prosecuting these global masterminds, so having communist hardliners go after them is probably the best way of kicking them out of Canada and facing justice.

It's called going through diplomatic channels and cooperating with local authorities to capture said dangerous criminals not setting-up illegal operations in another sovereign nation.

Speaking out against the Chinese or HK government is now illegal and considered a criminal activity. There might be some dangerous criminals or the majority can be dissidents.

Keep making excuses for them.

Is anyone really surprised? This is exactly what China is like…bossy & arrogant.

Any of these offices that are discovered should be immediately shut down and their staff summarily thrown into indefinite solitary after some waterboarding. Imagine what would happen if the CCP discovered similar operations by other countries in China. They'd be tried as spies and "disappeared". The only reason they're in place is to intimidate anti-CCP activities overseas, which is regarded as a crime in China.

I'm surprised that this has taken so long to come to light in main-stream media...

"Most" have known about the CCPs operations Globally for years.... and trust me, there's a lot more revelations to come, so hold onto your pants... you're going to start raising questions a lot more in the near future.

Those sneaky Chinese!

It is amazingly sinister that private businesses etc would allow themselves to be turned into places where people could renew their drivers licenses etc while abroad.

Because that is what these 'police stations' can do. No holding cells, interrogation rooms, they're not even technically Chinese territory like embassies, simply places to access the bureaucratic services that in China are located at the police station rather than elsewhere.

But don't let a simple thing like the facts get in the way of the rampant Sinophobia (its not like that spills over onto Japanese expats and visitors in North America, right)

Chinese 'police stations' in Canada under investigation:

Media reported police posts in a Toronto residence are among 54 worldwide.

Apparently, 'Yellow Fear' is fast developing in the west. Anything that is Chinese could only be espionage, surveillance or policing.

Farcical..

Thousands of Uighurs throughout the world have had their families threatened to persuade them to go back to China for a spot of re-education.

Some Chinese ‘offices’ in the Middle East have been shown to contain holding cells.

RichardPearceToday  10:27 am JST

It is amazingly sinister that private businesses etc would allow themselves to be turned into places where people could renew their drivers licenses etc while abroad.

Because that is what these 'police stations' can do. No holding cells, interrogation rooms, they're not even technically Chinese territory like embassies, simply places to access the bureaucratic services that in China are located at the police station rather than elsewhere.

But don't let a simple thing like the facts get in the way of the rampant Sinophobia (its not like that spills over onto Japanese expats and visitors in North America, right)

The fact of the matter is; then why not setup a legitimate office/service for Chinese overseas to renew their drivers licenses. Why hide it and operate in other businesses (convenience stores) and in private residences clandestinely. They're obviously hiding something otherwise they wouldn't be operating the way they are.

My Chinese friend in Toronto stays away from the Chinese community in Toronto because he doesn't trust people. He pretends he's Korean or Japanese.

China, however, denied accusations of illegal activity, saying the locations simply offer services -- such as driver's license renewals -- to Chinese nationals abroad.

Services supposedly to be provided by embassy and consular locations. If China is using residential premises for these things then Canada should close China's embassy and other official consular buildings as they are no longer needed. And inform China its staff in these "police stations" have no diplomatic immunity.

That China does not have an Extradition Treaty with these countries exposes the kind of dictatorship it is. Extradition Treaties are useally based on Comity, ie; a Crime in China that is also a Crime in Canada. So China getting a wanted murderer who fled to Canada extradited to China would be no problem.

But China considers countless acts to be "criminal" because they go against State policy. Chinese expatriates actively protesting the CCP, Uighurs, anybody that China wants to quash. And in no advanced democratic countries with freedom of expression, is that alone recognized as a "crime". Hence, no extradition.

And, typically on the Chinese side, under Chinese extradition law they will not extradite any Chinese nationals to a foreign country under any circumstances.

"pressure Chinese nationals to return to China to face criminal charges."

I'm in favour of that. Canada is a refuge for the scariest and most dangerous Chinese criminals. The RCMP attache in HK warned in the 90s that the Snakeheads were planning to base themselves in Canada ahead of the HK handover. His diplomatic cable was ignored by Ottawa.

A recent BC commission found that organized Chinese crime activities linking money laundering, fentanyl, and gambling represents a level of criminality never seen before in Canada. Canada's courts have shown themselves incapable of prosecuting these global masterminds, so having communist hardliners go after them is probably the best way of kicking them out of Canada and facing justice.

Those are not the people whom China would be pressuring to go back to China. Why would China want those criminals back?

The people whom China would want to go back to China are those who criticize China and hurt China's fragile ego

Remember the stories about Chinese dissidents living in foreign countries disappearing then suddenly reappearing "voluntarily" in China "just in time" to be in Chinese courts?

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1902800/thai-authorities-investigating-case-missing-bookseller-gui

Thai authorities investigating case of missing bookseller Gui Minhai after it emerges there is no record of him leaving Thailand

The bookseller has since appeared on Chinese state television in mainland custody

There's a second Evil Empire in the world. I feel sorry for the people there.

Mocheake, like you I feel sorry for the people in the US.