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China: A big prison full of smaller prisons.

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it really is too bad that the vaccine neither prevents infection not transmission.

It’s really unfortunate what the intellectually deficient believe in. The lies spread by idiots who themselves are fully vaccinated are so easily believed by the emotionally depressed, intellectually deprived believers.

These people are going through all this for literally no reason at all.

They are going through it because of a brutal dictatorship!

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and no, its not the poor quality of Chinese vaccines, its the "good ones" too.

That is not the consensus of science and medicine, obviously the experts of the world are a much more trust worthy source of information than nameless people on the internet.

The vaccines have a minor temporary effect on infection and transmission

Not according to the scientific evidence that have proved the effect is very important and significantly helps controlling the pandemic.

 The provide some temporary reduction of serious Covid symptoms,

A very important and long lasting (at least compared with the infection) protection, which is exactly what vaccines are meant to do, that this protection is still active even against variants against whom the vaccine was not designed is a huge bonus.

but they (the mRNA-based products) provide an increase in all-cause serious symptoms and deaths. That is what the science has been increasingly showing.

No, that is completely false and just part of antivaxxer groups propaganda, there is no study that even indicate vaccines have any signficant increase of symptoms or deaths, much less to a degree that can compare with the huge benefit they bring.

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It just seems very odd to me the CCP can enforce harsh restrictions on people but can't get them, especially the older ones, to get vaccinated. No-one else in the world (except maybe NK) is doing this. Doesn't make sense. The only reason I can think of is the leadership want this, and plan to use this situation to turn China into a highly policed state where all movement will be even more monitored and controlled.

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it really is too bad that the vaccine neither prevents infection not transmission.

It does prevent serious illness, hence the low mortality rate.

The vaccines have a minor temporary effect on infection and transmission. The provide some temporary reduction of serious Covid symptoms, but they (the mRNA-based products) provide an increase in all-cause serious symptoms and deaths. That is what the science has been increasingly showing.

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and no, its not the poor quality of Chinese vaccines, its the "good ones" too.

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it really is too bad that the vaccine neither prevents infection not transmission.

The vaccine is one of the measures that do help reducing both, the vaccines used by the Chinese government are worse than the best currently available, more importantly vaccination greatly reduces the need to control the number of infections, since it becomes unnecessary to do it once the people become protected from the worst complications.

Still, since reducing infection, transmission and risk from the pandemic would decrease the need for the population control measures that the CCP favors, it is not surprising that better vaccines are not being used in the country, saving lives is secondary to controlling them.

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it really is too bad that the vaccine neither prevents infection not transmission.

It does prevent serious illness, hence the low mortality rate. If the CCP were interested in the people's well-being, they would have acted on that fact long ago.

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it really is too bad that the vaccine neither prevents infection not transmission.

These people are going through all this for literally no reason at all.

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The unsustainable and scientifically unsupported policy of the CCP keeps having negative consequences that are not necessary from the point of view of public health, vaccination and targeted measures have demonstrated to reduce the risk from the infection in a way that give better results without having the huge costs (in resources and lives) that the zero covid policy has.

When other countries have better results than China without having to use counterproductive and unnecessary lockdowns to reach this level it becomes clear that the priority of the Chinese government is not the lives of their citizens but to have as much control as they can using the pandemic as an excuse.

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 China has decided to place th value of human lives at its forefront of concerns.

Yeah like that is not true at all. If it were, the country would be vaccinated and life would be returning/have returned to normal.

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topping 2,000 for a second straight day and pressuring the country's controversial zero-COVID policy, which has hamstrung the economy and exasperated its citizens.

0 covid clearly doesn't work. A robust vaccine program is the only hope for China.

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Incredible work by China to control this. Instead of losing millions of lives, China has decided to place th value of human lives at its forefront of concerns.

Impressive that China has endured less than 20,000 deaths related to Covid.

No one knows the real scope of infection or deaths in China, they probably crossed the 20,000 death mark in Wuhan in the March 2020, no one knows how many died before that.

Cities in Australia also underwent strict lockdowns, but then the government gave up, and the economy took a hit from which it never recovered while China is the only major country to undergo positive economic growth throughout the pandemic.

China had a negative GDP, ask anyone except the CCP liars and they will all confirm.

There is no value for human life under the CCP goons, people are killed just for speaking the truth there and it will be a few years or decades before we know how many millions their modern day Mao has killed!!!

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Some Chinese have been escaping from their lockdowns.

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Imagine being locked into an apartment for months

Many people are in such a similar situation, everywhere on the globe, and no one complains that. For example prisoners, disabled people, very old people etc. The loud propaganda outcry only because China is doing the right measures against the viruses is very easy to refute. In other situations, political reasons for surveillance and keeping people with other opinions arrested, the complaints against China state forces are ok, but not here when it’s against the corona viruses.

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I agree with all 3 above posters.

I actually think lockdowns can stem infection and to be perfectly honest, a western style lockdown is fine by me. I'm at work monday-saturday and sometimes sunday, so if they want us to stay home I'm all for it. I could use more time with my family so no complaints about a lockdown from me. I'd actually love a break.

However, the chinese style lockdown where one cannot even leave their apartment to get groceries to survive is just bat shet crazy. And we are not going to get rid of covid completely, I don't think. What China is doing is crazy, but maybe if those lockdowns create enough anger to overthrow the government and fracture the nation as a whole, I'm all for it.

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It wouldn't be the worst thing if Chinese were locked down in their country and shut off from the rest of the world forever. It would certainly make any tourist destination more enjoyable.

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Cases in mainland China hit 2,898 on Sunday,

Incredible work by China to control this. Instead of losing millions of lives, China has decided to place th value of human lives at its forefront of concerns.

Impressive that China has endured less than 20,000 deaths related to Covid.

Cities in Australia also underwent strict lockdowns, but then the government gave up, and the economy took a hit from which it never recovered while China is the only major country to undergo positive economic growth throughout the pandemic.

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Dystopian nightmare. Where the lunatics run the asylum. Imagine being locked into an apartment for months on end, or shipped off to one of those 'containment' camps. Speaking out is futile as well. Poor sods.

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This country is hopeless. It's not really about Covid19. It's just about controlling their people.

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Good luck with the lockdowns but they are not going to improve things, a friend of mine needs 4 hours to go from her house in China to her university dorm in Kyushu, and needs 7 days to do the opposite.

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