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Corruption is everywhere in China. The law is whatever they want it to be!

22 ( +31 / -9 )

The CCP and its legal system makes me sick.

Yet another reason to boycott the Beijing Olympics.

24 ( +32 / -8 )

Schellenberg was framed - he is not a drug-smuggling mastermind but a political prisoner being held by Communist China in a tit-for-tat over the legitimate Huawei arrests.

If the govt of Canada has any spine at all, they should cease all relations with Communist China and stop all trade, until Schellenberg is released.

It goes without saying that Canada will boycott the Genocide Games 2022 in Beijing IF the Trudeau govt has any strength and morals at all.

18 ( +24 / -6 )

Don’t visit China under any circumstances. They’ll arrest anybody they like, just as they do in North Korea.

18 ( +25 / -7 )

Robert Schellenberg was sentenced to prison in November 2018 after being convicted of drug smuggling. He was abruptly resentenced to death in January 2019 following the arrest of the chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies Ltd in Vancouver.

The CCP changed the sentence to death after Meng Wanzhou was detained. Perhaps Canada could upgrade Wanzhou's detention to a long prison sentence if the CCP goes on with the execution.

6 ( +11 / -5 )

The CCP changed the sentence to death after Meng Wanzhou was detained. Perhaps Canada could upgrade Wanzhou's detention to a long prison sentence if the CCP goes on with the execution.

Screw that idea. The answer to China's legal system being corrupt isn't for Canada to corrupt its own legal system.

We (I'm Canadian) need to stand up to China based on our values, which include the rule of law, not abandon them completely.

That said I'm honestly not really sure what, other than that, Canada can do. We're a small country, China is a big one. I sure as hell am never going to set foot in China and I hope Canadian businesses will get out of China, but at the end of the day I don't think we have any options on the table that are going to help Schellenberg. I feel bad for him and his family.

14 ( +18 / -4 )

Very limited and confusing reporting.

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

The CCP changed the sentence to death after Meng Wanzhou was detained. Perhaps Canada could upgrade Wanzhou's detention to a long prison sentence if the CCP goes on with the execution.

Canada is a country of law. They aren’t going to corrupt themselves for China. She’ll be dealt with under the law as it is, unlike the Canadians in China. Canada is stronger than it realizes though - they show the rest of the world how to stand up to China.

10 ( +14 / -4 )

Don't expect the current Trudeau government to do anything.

5 ( +11 / -6 )

So that means, the guy will get a bullet to the back of the head. Gotta be tough. China doesn't have to do this, but they want the world to know they are not a bunch of softies.

-9 ( +4 / -13 )

The fangs are out.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

The entire world needs to decouple from Fascist China.

10 ( +18 / -8 )

China doesn't have to do this, but they want the world to know they are not a bunch of softies.

Curious for some that 'not being a softie' includes using state powers to kill a foreigner.

But then there are those who think leaders like 'Duterte' is 'strong' because he kills and jails his own citizens. Not surprising those kinds of people tend to favor authoritarian systems.

15 ( +16 / -1 )

However, although I hate communist regimes and dictatorships, I hate such drug dealers even more. Anyway, that’s of course only valid if there is clear evidence and a fair court trial without political considerations about other cases, spies or pressing another country of releasing people in return. So, in this case, I trust neither the CCP nor that drug dealing guy, means a draw, means he’s very luckily to be released and trialed on neutral ground, anywhere else, not in China, but also not in Canada. Only my irrelevant opinion though…lol

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

Powerful canada's trudeau makes typical who-cares weak political statements about this. Sad. Letting his fellow citizen rot in jail and get the ultimate.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Powerful canada's trudeau makes typical who-cares weak political statements about this.

What exactly do you want him to do? Be specific.

You sound like another one just engaging in partisan whinging.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

Theoretically I think this is enough for a war with China !

2 ( +9 / -7 )

"Poor guy. What a hand fate has dealt him."

Fate with Chinese characteristics.

7 ( +9 / -2 )

China keeps pressuring Canada as if our court system is run by our politicians in Ottawa. They simply cannot understand that that's not how it works here.

It's independent and are handled by the courts and the supreme court.

Our PM though is scared to death and will do nothing against China, even abstaining for votes in the House about Huawei, genocide, and the Olympics that other MP's have done.

We're effectively neutered on China unless we have a new PM. It would have to be a social democract not a conservative as we will also need action on climate change not climate change denial. And Canadians will vote that way.

But that means likely Trudeau wins another term and we're still stuck with China

11 ( +12 / -1 )

Make a trade of the Chinese woman for this guy and the two other Canadian diplomats,

So your solution to Chinese bullying is to give China exactly what it wants? When in history has that ever been an effective solution to a situation like this?

and make it clear that this is the last time,

Oh, never mind, that makes everything different. So long as in the midst of capitulating the Canadian government warns them not to do it again I'm sure that will be effective at keeping the Chinese government in line. it has a well known fear of completely unenforceable statements from minor countries that it can easily ignore like that.

Problem solved, well done.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

It was not uncommon to trade political prisoners and spies with Russia during the cold war. 

We're not talking about cold war spies here, these are private individuals subject to normal court proceedings.

China is now playing that game and we should adjust accordingly.

Screw that. China wants to have a corrupt legal system that it plays games with, let them have it. Canada's isn't going to be corrupted like that. Our justice system is not a game, that is the difference between democracies and dictatorships.

 I feel the Canada as a major Arctic superpower should step up and take what's theirs.

What the hell does the arctic have to do with this?

Canada can easily have as much power projection as Russia but continually holds back.

What the hell does Russia have to do with this?

8 ( +10 / -2 )

It is political leverage to get Huawei's Vice President back. China won't go through with it because it will backfire and increase the negative image with Covid-19, concentration camps, and espionage.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

China won't go through with it because it will backfire and increase the negative image with Covid-19, concentration camps, and espionage.

I don't think this makes much sense. If they are getting away with something as horrendous as the obliteration of an entire ethnic group in concentration camps - which they are - then they won't care about whatever reputational hit they'll take for executing a Canadian accused of smuggling drugs, which will be small in comparison.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Hostage justice, not an unfamiliar concept if you live in Japan.

In the event, with the current neolib establishment governments in Canada and US, it is fair to predict that HuaWei will get back into business, including 5G contracts, soon enough. CCP China is on a winning streak.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

He's still going to have an opportunity to have the sentence reviewed by the supreme court and the process for the jailing being swapped out for death argued, let's hope... Simple answer is don't willingly or knowingly peddle or smuggle drug's in a country with the death penalty for the offence... Just think Bali... A very popular holiday destination for people from all over the world, young and old alike. But the storied toll of those executed for in some cases as little as a joint by the state are legion. Speculation about the motives for the severity of sentences doesn't have much sway, the fact is that they have law's and that the Chinese are executing the Law in accordance with the rules of their respective regulations. Iran, Hong Kong and the US government should not be confused with the process that these people are subject to as sad and unfortunate that may be.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

I have visited China on several occasions and have never been arrested for smuggling drugs. Of course this maybe because I'm not a drug smuggling criminal like Mr Schellenberg. Will the death penalty stop the drug trade? Of course not but it will certainly put a stop to Mr Schellenberg's illegal activities.

-12 ( +5 / -17 )

I have visited China on several occasions and have never been arrested for smuggling drugs. Of course this maybe because I'm not a drug smuggling criminal like Mr Schellenberg. Will the death penalty stop the drug trade? Of course not but it will certainly put a stop to Mr Schellenberg's illegal activities.

So, let's get this clear.

You believe the word of totalitarian, genocidal, Communist China - a nation where the "rule of law" is decided arbitrarily by the Communist Party - over a Canadian who protests his innocence? Truly unbelievable.

BTW, visiting Communist China "on several occasions" is nothing anyone who loves freedom and democracy would ever boast about.

Free Robert Schellenberg!

Boycott the Genocide Games 2022!

2 ( +9 / -7 )

It is political leverage to get Huawei's Vice President back. China won't go through with it because it will backfire and increase the negative image with Covid-19, concentration camps, and espionage.

I think they'll go through with it. They need to show toughness. They can't capitulate either.

At may be moot however if the Canadian courts release Meng at some point under an judgement by a judge under the law.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

I have visited China on several occasions and have never been arrested for smuggling drugs. Of course this maybe because I'm not a drug smuggling criminal like Mr Schellenberg.

You can only conclude he is a drug dealer if you trust the CCP. No one from free nations with open medai however trust the statements of the CCP, who control their media, disallow the propagation of anti-CCP information (such as the Massacre of students by the CCP at Tienanmen Square in 1989 ), and use their legal system as a means of exerting political influence on other nations.

Maybe you trust the CCP, and therefore believe this man must have been a drug dealer. But the majority of the planet will realize that the CCP isn't trustworthy, so this man's guilt as well is not established.

3 ( +10 / -7 )

There isn't much Canada can do about this, as China is much, much more powerful in terms of economic, political, and military power. They are David against Goliath.

They should, however, boycott the Olympics. It will embarrass China, as it will be part of all announcements regarding the Olympics, and add a question mark to all events due to Canadians being one of the best performing winter Olympics nations in the world.

This is the biggest punch Canada can pull. They can still let their court of law deal with Meng, while explicitly pointing out how the Chinese are literally executing Canadians as a means of exerting political power.

We must not be silent about it. We must speak of the horrors of the CCP, as they are a threat to humanity at large.

6 ( +10 / -4 )

Just to show how gregarious Canada is - Meng is on house arrest, allowed to shop, and lives in a mansion in one of the most beautiful cities in the world. While the CCP is executing Canadian political prisoners.

This is the CCP. The world must see them for the terrorist dictators they are.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

Fighto....

So, let's get this clear.

You believe the word of totalitarian, genocidal, Communist China - a nation where the "rule of law" is decided arbitrarily by the Communist Party - over a Canadian who protests his innocence?

Well, yes. Except China is not genocidal and has the rule of law. But don't worry he won't be getting his bullet in the back of the head.

-9 ( +3 / -12 )

Don’t visit China under any circumstances. They’ll arrest anybody they like, just as they do in North Korea.

Or if you really must visit for whatever reason, do not bring luggage you must deposit and claim later.

Do not be friendly to strangers to bring any small stuff when asked. You can always be a drug dealer

in China.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

So he was given a death sentence. Does it mean he was proven guilty?

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Hostage diplomacy. This isn’t going to do China any favors in the public arena.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Stop all relationship with China. Switch diplomatic relationship to Taiwan. Recognize the independence of Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and Hong Kong. Reduce China to its proper borders.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

China's Court system/Laws are far better than Japan's "Medievalism and hostage system".

That's the general position unashamedly assumed by the vast majority of the JT "brotherhood"

The verdict is "right"!

No use crying over spilled milk.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

The CCP knows that Trudeau is wimpy enough that he will cave under pressure. So they are upping the ante to an unbearable level to get their elite woman freed. It’s like being forced to play Russian Roulette with a madman. Poor Schellenberg is a pawn in the game.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Hostage diplomacy. This isn’t going to do China any favors in the public arena.

China likely caused the deaths of millions through its incompetence in creating and mishandling the covid-19 virus. No other country is making them pay a price for this atrocity. Why would holding hostages on made up criminal charges be any different?

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

I am no fan of Xi's thugs who rule China, but this article was written to mislead.

He wasn't "abruptly resentenced to death in January 2019 following the arrest of the chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies Ltd in Vancouver." He was resentenced to death when he chose to appeal his original 15 year sentence and the prosecutors came up with evidence that he has smuggled tons of drugs - not just the 200kgs they caught him with. He has also been convicted in Canadian courts of drug smuggling. The guy appears to be neck deep in the smuggling business, not just a mule.

This article ignores all that and tries to tie the sentence to the Huawei case without presenting ant evidence at all.

Mind you, I think XI is evil and may bring the world (including China) to destruction. But I am wary of articles like these that are designed to inflame passions. Xi isn't the only one stirring the pot. Be careful of propaganda from all sides.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

In other word, "Evil Empire"

1 ( +3 / -2 )

The CCP knows that Trudeau is wimpy enough that he will cave under pressure. So they are upping the ante to an unbearable level to get their elite woman freed. It’s like being forced to play Russian Roulette with a madman. Poor Schellenberg is a pawn in the game.

When you don't stand up to China, this will continue and the next time another foreigner is on death row and countries don't push back on this, it will only embolden the Communist regime.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

They should, however, boycott the Olympics. It will embarrass China, as it will be part of all announcements regarding the Olympics, and add a question mark to all events due to Canadians being one of the best performing winter Olympics nations in the world.

Agreed but Trudeau is gutless and will never make a decision over China even if the entire House has done so

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

2010 "Mr innocence" was convicted IN CANADA of drug possession for the purpose of trafficking getting a year in jail and two years probation. Sadly everyone's new anti-China hero didn't learn his lesson and in 2012 got two more years in a CANADIAN jail for guess what... more drug offenses.

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

The CCP knows that Trudeau is wimpy enough that he will cave under pressure.

Um, this issue has been ongoing for three years, and he hasn't caved yet, nor can he, as the prime minister does not hold power over the courts in Canada.

But continue your extremist-right wing rhetoric as if it has any basis in the real world, for it just exposes you for being an extremist right-winger who just hates Trudeau because for six years he has proven your team wrong by successfully governing Canada as a leftist country, while maintaining a healthy economy, low covid deaths, and get this - free healthcare for the masses.

The right HATE the existence of Trudeau, because he's a living example of the complete and utter failure of their ideology, and their inability to lead any nation in any kind of healthy way for the citizens in said countries.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

But continue your extremist-right wing rhetoric as if it has any basis in the real world, 

Get ahold of yourself. It’s not the end of the world for someone to disagree with another opinion.

The right HATE the existence of Trudeau

Don’t really spend all that much time worrying about Trudeau but I do know he has issues - like being a racist in black face. There is a lot not to like about that part of who he is as a human being. I know he will end up bending to China’s will and eventually trade for the Huawei executive. The CCP will continue to hold Canadians in high profile cases with extremely dire consequences until Trudeau folds. He will.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Asia looks at drugs differently to US and Europe. Japan, Bali, China...see drugs as punishable.

They also see it as an explanation for arresting political prisoners. "He had drugs" they claim, and lock him up.

That's the problem with corrupt systems, they can never be trusted. "What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll believe the lie, it's that we won't recognize the truth". That's the problem with opaque dictatorships like China, we can't know what is a lie OR the truth. So we have no idea if this guy even had drugs. It certainly makes a convenient excuse for the CCP to lock him up.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

That's the problem with opaque dictatorships like China, we can't know what is a lie OR the truth.

Sure, but we know that Schellenberg was arrested and sentenced before the Huawei controversy began. We know that Schellenberg has been convicted of drug trafficking in his home country. We know China is one of the manufacturing centers for the global trade in synthetic drugs. We know Schellenberg is just one of over 6000 foreign nationals locked up in Chinese prisons for similar crimes. We also know that there is no precedent for China ever using convicted drug traffickers like Schellenberg as political bargaining chips. His story is not that unusual.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

Sure, but we know that Schellenberg was arrested and sentenced before the Huawei controversy began. We know that Schellenberg has been convicted of drug trafficking in his home country. We know China is one of the manufacturing centers for the global trade in synthetic drugs. We know Schellenberg is just one of over 6000 foreign nationals locked up in Chinese prisons for similar crimes. We also know that there is no precedent for China ever using convicted drug traffickers like Schellenberg as political bargaining chips. His story is not that unusual.

Plenty of trust in CCP media you're placing there. More than I have, that's for sure. I don't "know" at least half those things you claim we know, I only know that's what the CCP claims.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

@Strangerland

I think you need to look at this logically through a Chinese lens. Drug traffickers are considered absolute scum in China (like pedophiles in the West). If the Chinese wanted to arrest an innocent person as a political bargaining chip, they would not tarnish his reputation with such a heinous allegation for two reasons. First, the Chinese public would be infuriated if a convicted drug trafficker were released (just imagine the public outrage in Canada if Trudeau were to release a convicted Chinese pedophile in a political deal) second, the Chinese would not expect Canadian citizens to pressure their government to secure the release of some scumbag. If the Chinese wanted bargaining chips they would arrest respectable members of Canadian society like Spavor and Kovrig on unspecified charges.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

All of this because she had business dealings with Iran and the U.S. has put Canada square in the middle of U.S. pathology. Good going, Justin, but your name really should be Craven. What would Pierre have done? He would have put Canada and Canadians FIRST, ahead of the criminal needs of American zionists! But you are certainly NOT the man your father was nor, apparently, will you ever be. "Reason before passion" but, in his son, not before kneeling to the American psychopaths. You got elected on your Father's good name but, apparently, did not inherit his strength of character. Let her go and, if you feel it necessary, apologize to Biden but no longer sully the name Trudeau with your personal weakness...

0 ( +2 / -2 )

This case has nothing to do with Trudeau, Huawei or the US . Its a simple case of a drug dealer getting caught and then punished by the country he was caught in. If you don't like China's drug punishments, then probably best not to traffic drugs in China. Or at least not get caught.

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