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© Thomson Reuters 2024.Chinese nuclear-powered submarine sank earlier this year, U.S. official says
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John
It’s pier-side. That makes it even more embarrassing.
The Russians had a couple ships sink in dry dock. The Chinese said “Hold my beer.”
wallace
The sub sank while at the dock.
TaiwanIsNotChina
China should stop dumping nuclear powered subs in the world's oceans.
wallace
The loss of the Chinese submariners.
TaiwanIsNotChina
The US apparently has some good salvage capability. Scoop it up if it is in international waters and see what can be found!!!
stormcrow
Not surprising. As with Covid, the Chinese will dump anything into Earth's environment without giving anyone a heads up.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Yes all subs need a crane for a little support. The fact China was able to cover this up is the real embarrassment, that they should have such a disgusting government.
theFu
Corruption and "good enough" Chinese built equipment is the real issue here. Chinese military are wealthy beyond their salaries because they accept substandard work and equipment along with envelopes.
2 former defense chefs were ousted in June. That's pretty high up. The people below them learn how to do it and the people below them and the people below them. Everyone wants a "taste" to keep their mouths shut.
It is the sailors and soldiers who are being screwed with equipment they trust their lives to use, but are built like many things in China - to the "good enough" standard which means it looked fine the day some big-wig reviewed it, but didn't actually work. Basically, they have to build everything twice to get a working version.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Is there a submarine shipyard in Wuhan? Why yes, yes there is:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230321210542/https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/wuhan-sy.htm
TaiwanIsNotChina
On the contrary: launching an ICBM was your country's sorry response to having the sinking of one of its newest toys exposed.
quercetum
The question to ask is what a submarine is doing in Wuhan. Wuhan is about 450 miles from Nanjing. This would be a submarine in Memphis along the Mississippi. Would the US build a nucler sub in Tennessee?
The Yangtze River is not that deep either. 30 meters may be deep enough for a sub, but I don't think it is 30 meters all year round. The Yangtze River around Wuhan is 6 meters and less and there are sand bars.
Moreover Wuhan is not known as place to build nuclear subs. Chinese nuclear subs are built in the Liaoning Province in Bohai. Subs are built in Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Virginia and there are submarine bases in Georgia not in places inland like St. Louis.
This is intersting though. Maybe they're researching building drone subs. I do not see a full size nuclear sub way inland in Wuhan. Desert Tortoise would know more.
deanzaZZR
Nuclear subs in Wuhan? 笑 Is this kind of "reporting" what $1.6 billion gets you?
quercetum
They are insulting your intelligence. They literally think you would believe a nuclear sub sank up the Colorado river.
Nuclear subs are big. China doesn’t build nuclear subs in Wuhan. It’s too shallow in the Yangtze River.
China launched an IBCM. This is your country’s sorry response.
elephant200
@theFu How good enough is the US navy submarine captain?
Have you forgotten the "Connecticut incident"? That sub crashed at the sea mountain almost polluting the south China sea and the Pacific Ocean. Still not yet back to service after three years? Must be a very bloody nose.
Stop your rhetorics or myths, watch your own embarrassment!
quercetum
Notice it was an "incident" and not an "accident." I do not believe it was an accident but a glimpse of how war will be fought in the South China Seas 21st century style: take out their system and subs become blind.
I am sure the US knows about what really happened.
quercetum
If a Chinese nuclear submarine sanked, why would US intelligence wait 3 months to report it?
If you say, they just found out about it? The evidence is a photo taken in June. It takes 3 months to figure out a nuclear submarine sank?
These days if a Submarine sinks, the signals alone can ensure that the Western Intelligence Agencies know that a submarine has sunk, and they would have reported it within a few days at the latest.
Where is the evidence? That photo there convinces you that a nuclear powered sub sanked? This is along the same lines as the satellite photo of some warehouse served to you as the evidence of Uyghurs are being killed in concentration camps.
To the Americans here, are you not insulted in the least bit by these fake news, okay by this fake news?
They think you are not smart enough to figure out where nuclear submarines are built in China: Tianjin, Qingdao, Bohai I can think of. They are all near the oceans, you know, where submarines go?
It is so childish.
It's like they want you to think, "hmmm Wuhan, I've heard of that before. That's that place where they researched the Coronavirus, isn't?"
There is a shipyard in Wuhan but nuclear submarines are not built in Wuhan. And subs are not built in Missouri.
quercetum
I wrote this and then I read the following:
@sormcrow
You are the model citizen obediently falling for their fake news hook, line and sinker.
deanzaZZR
Eurasia Naval Insight weights in on the "debate". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30eLMy7Tx4
elephant200
Nothing embarrassing, military of all nationalities have mishaps or accidents, keep trying keep trying and there you go !
elephant200
the real embarrassment, that they should have such a disgusting government
@TaiwanisChina:
elephant200
disgusting government
@TaiwanisChina: Not as embarrassing as Donald Trump leaking US submarine secrets to adversary countries.
Real shame !
elephant200
pier-side. That makes it even more embarrassing.
@John: Who knows it was sunken or submerged? It could be a training exercise or test of performance. Of course you guys want to see our embarrassing days. I do pity America is so low and shallow these days !
elephant200
The sub sank while at the dock.
@Wallace: No, that's not true and such circumstance is impossible. Don't cheer at someone's bad luck day or Karma.
Very much like a training exercise goes wrong. That's fine, will fix it soon.
Congratulations China, a new class of nuclear submarine will goes to service soon. Watch out the "AUKUS', your judgement day is due !
elephant200
China should stop dumping nuclear powered subs in the world's oceans.
@TaiwanisChina: NO! NO! NO! The one should stop using nuclear submarines is the US navy. In Oct 2021, the "USS Connecticut" hit the sea mountain in South China sea, resulting a serious damage of your own. But if your boat crashed badly lead to sunken, it might caused the leaking and spreads of harzardous radioactive substances throughout the world ocean. Your country is reckless and very embarrassing, please stop using nuclear powered boats for God sake !