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Simian LaneToday  01:28 pm JST

70 percent of the planet is covered by water

let that ( and the rocket debris ) sink in

This is the second time that the Chinese have done this and not given a crap about where their space garbage lands. The last time parts fell on villages in the Ivory Coast. This act was extremely negligient.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanocallaghan/2020/05/12/parts-of-a-chinese-rocket-may-have-fallen-on-an-african-village/?sh=1fe10d9a65a2

Let that sink in!

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I guess I can take off my bicycle helmet now.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

May 2020. African village named, and photo posted. Maybe not fake news, ning1983, so parts of the previous one may have fallen there.

https://room.eu.com/news/debris-from-chinas-rocket-may-have-hit-african-villages

Quote: McDowell later reported that a 12-m-long object had crashed into the village of Mahounou in Cote d'Ivoire, Africa. Pictures of the debris have now been posted on social media and show a pipe-like fragment that could have originally measured about 21 metres long but may have broken in half on re-entry.

“It's directly on the CZ-5B reentry track, 2100 km downrange from the Space-Track reentry location,” said McDowell via Twitter. “Possible that part of the stage could have sliced through the atmo that far,” he added.

Further reports that some villages, such as N'guinou along the reentry path were damaged by falling debris. Thankfully reported McDowell, no casualties have been announced.

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Fake news!

Last year, the Department of Defense confirmed the reentry of the rocket at 1534 UTC, which is in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of West Africa.

Nonsense! That's afternoon tea time at the Ritz, Piccadilly.

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None of the discussion above is adressing why the Chinese did not adhere to best practice and bring down their space junk in a safe and controlled manner.

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China had been negligent in letting it fall out of orbit.

a despotic regime was negligent? What are the odds?

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Fake news!

Last year, the Department of Defense confirmed the reentry of the rocket at 1534 UTC, which is in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of West Africa.

Doesn't UTC mean "Coordinated Universal Time"? How can you locate a place with a given time? Don't you need coordinates instead?

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BlacklabelToday  02:26 pm JST

Chinese rocket?

cause it’s from China?

Yes, built in China, launched by China from China, owned by China. Nobody else.

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Thats Communist technology right there, folks. 

China has to be stopped with this aggressive behavior before its too late. Boycott China!

Maybe the billions of tons of raw materials from you Aussies helped build this.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Thats Communist technology right there, folks.

China has to be stopped with this aggressive behavior before its too late. Boycott China!

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Hello Kitty, what you say is true, but it did cause the scientific world to sit up and say "Let's have some rules around here that every nation should obey from now on."

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The point is, China has another 10 of these lined up to send stuff to their new space station. What happens to those long odds now... and to us, if they do not add some kind of control mechanism to them?

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Of the two space labs China launched, the first one fell to Earth in an uncontrollable fashion in April 2018, but China maintained control over the second lab to the end in July 2019. So making fuss over a possibility that debris may fall from the unburned rocket may have been a groundless brouhaha.

See a Space Com. Article endorsed by NASA: “China launches core module of new space station to orbit” written by Mike Wall.

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People talk as if China is the only one that does this. I remember when the 77-ton American Skylab crashed in Australia.

Even though Skylab was devised for just a nine-year lifespan, NASA failed to build in any control or navigation mechanisms to return the orbiter to terra firma. Doing so would have “cost too much,” administrator Robert Frosch said at the time.

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Is it the fact that the rocket was Chinese that particularly annoys you? Apparently 40,000 metric tons of international space junk drop out of the sky every year:

Most of that burns up on the way down, never to touch the ground/water.

Skylab hitting Australia is what got the international standards for controlled re-entry to happen. There are legal requirements https://www.aerosociety.com/news/space-debris-the-legal-issues/ Basically, it says the country from where a rocket is launched is legally responsible for any debris hitting the ground from it. When SpaceX launches a private rocket, if parts land in some other country, the USGovt is responsible for any legal challenges.

There are still deorbit accidents. Last month SpaceX had an accident that let a pressure vessel hit a farm in the US, but China doesn't even attempt to control reentry and target specific, unpopulated, locations.

When China launches, they've had stuff fall off the rockets and land in nearby Chinese villages, sometimes destroying homes: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/26/chinese-rocket-crushes-houses-after-government-warning-to-residents.html Chinese launch sites aren't on the coast, so boosters often come down on land. This isn't a state secret.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTQFDPC558

https://spacenews.com/safety-last-reckless-behavior-provides-china-with-economic-competitive-advantages-in-space-launch/

China uses multiple strap-on boosters, each hits the ground separately.

https://findchina.info/uploads/old/2015/08/28/yaogan-27-lm-4c-yf21-engine-roof-hongjun-village-ankang-shaanxi-1.png

Europe, US, NZ, Japanese all launch from ocean-side locations so boosters land in the ocean.

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What amazes me most about China is its achievement of economy and space technology vying neck and neck with the U.S. as we see today.

Everything started with Leader Deng Xiaoping's daring policy of "Reform and Open Door" that was struck home in 1978. Until then China was an underdeveloped country no one paid much heed to.

Who knew China would become America’s No. one rival in economy and all in such a short period of time?

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This is the second time that the Chinese have done this and not given a crap about where their space garbage lands.

Is it the fact that the rocket was Chinese that particularly annoys you? Apparently 40,000 metric tons of international space junk drop out of the sky every year:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/05/08/space-debris-crashes/

And I wonder how you know whether they "care a crap" about it or not.

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Chinese rocket?

cause it’s from China?

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

Last year, debris from another Long March rocket fell on villages in the Ivory Coast, causing structural damage but no injuries or deaths.

Fake news!

Last year, the Department of Defense confirmed the reentry of the rocket at 1534 UTC, which is in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of West Africa.

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