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Clinton, Sanders go at each other over gun control, health care

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By LISA LERER and NANCY BENAC

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let them have their guns - ban the bullets....

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I agree with Hillary on healthcare, not because Sander's proposal is flawed but because Americans are likely not ready for such a dramatic change. Bring it back when current college-aged kids begin to have children.

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I haven't have time to watch the whole last Democratic debate yet. But my favorite part of what I saw so far was Clinton saying "I know how much money influences the political decision making".

Haha. She knows and we know she knows. In fact I'd say she's an expert in how big money influences decision making.

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Clinton, in turn, faulted Sanders’ past votes to deregulate financial markets and ease up on federal oversight.

I haven't watched the debate yet, but judging from his other speeches and lack of big-money funding, Sanders has clearly changed his tune. He seems to be the most genuine of all the candidates, and I have no doubt he will actually push for the issues he talks about. Whether the House and Senate let him is another story, but I think trying and failing is better than not trying at all. Feeling the Bern.

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Did anyone notice that Hillary rarely looked at anyone (or the camera) directly. It just felt like she was just trying to get away with something (like telling the truth). Maybe that was my imagination, but her body language just spoke 'don't trust me'.

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trying and failing is better than not trying at all.

I'd agree that that sentiment does have its time and place, but not always. Applied to the GOP, and those umpteen votes to overturn the ACA suddenly seem logical; to the Clinton administration, and his "whole pie" failed healthcare attempt does, too. Leadership is a tricky thing; one needs to stay ahead of the troops, but not get so far ahead that they stop following you.

Again, I like Sander's healthcare approach, but American's have still not yet even begun to fully digest the ACA, and demanding such a wholesale revamping of the American healthcare system in one stroke is doomed to fail. Just ask the Clintons, who have learned from experience. incremental improvements in the ACA and an expansion of Medicare to include all those who wish to join a single-payer system would be sufficient over the next eight years.

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MrBum: I didn't understand 'Feeling the Bern'; even if you meant Feeling the Burn, I still don't understand. Bern, by the way, is the capital of Switzerland.

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Anyone who truly tried to change American imperialism and threaten the power and wealth derived from this would never be chosen or would be killed, so expect more of the same from whoever is elected, just as Obama continued Bush's policies, despite all his rhetoric.

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It is all in vain. The US voting machines can be tampered with. The US must return to paper ballots.

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Watched the debate and I believe Sanders rocked. He has my vote, that's for sure.

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These two candidates got it all wrong when they both initially responded to the San Bernardino Terror Attacks.

Instead of praising San Bernardino's local law enforcement, condemning "radical islam" and expressing condolences to the victims families- they were quick to blast gun violence.

Sure. Its terrible Tashfeen Malik "acquired" a firearm. She was a "devout " and "peaceful" muslim.

Why didn't Clinton/Sanders blast the fact that her and her hubby were up late at night making pipe bombs too?

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"Go after each other?"

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"She suggested Sanders’ health care plan would impose a heavier tax burden on the middle class."

No, it would save money. The proposal is very similar to the Canadian system, whose per patient costs are little more than half than in the US. Furthermore, Canada has a healthier population. Better and cheaper. Same goes for many western European countries.

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The proposal is very similar to the Canadian system, whose per patient costs are little more than half than in the US. Furthermore, Canada has a healthier population. Better and cheaper. Same goes for many western European countries.

That's right. The problem is that many Americans have an aversion to admitting other places do anything better. The narrative that has been beaten into people's heads is that the U.S.A. is top of the heap in every respect, and when that narrative is contradicted by actual evidence to the contrary, the country breaks out in hives, as witnessed in the current GOP. The U.S. has plenty to be proud of, but plenty to get off its backside about as well.

Hubris will be America's downfall, unless it corrects its path.

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