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Clinton, Trump adjust politicking following Florida shooting

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By LAURIE KELLMAN

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“Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn’t he should immediately resign in disgrace!”

Of course he won't, he is all for Muslims coming to the US en masse!

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Is Clinton still strict gun control advocator?

Is Trump supported by NRA?

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To the LGBT community: please know that you have millions of allies across our country. I am one of them,” she said in a statement,

It is nice to see Hillary finally come out of the closet on this.

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Trump's response is to congratulate himself. That's his response to everything actually. I've never seen anyone so needy for praise.

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/santa-monica-police-arrest-man-901887

Seems to be more LGBT hits that Hillary will need to appease.

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what exactly is obamas problem with using the expression "radical islam" ??

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“Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn’t he should immediately resign in disgrace!”

Trump always knows exactly what to say, doesn't he? Yet still he sounds so hollow.

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That's been a question since Ft. Hood shooting Outrider. Why didn't Obama destroy ISIS when it was an easier task?

Political correctness I guess. Extreem political correctness. Non-productive political correctness.

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Hillary is just pandering to the LGBT community. In the meanwhile she`s totally fine to let Muslims preach extreme hate towards them. Throwing them off buildings, drowning etc. Such hypocrisy.

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It is interesting to see how toned-down this article is. Can you imagine if the shooter had been a registered Trump supporter? The press brouhaha would be spectacle to behold.

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Adjusted how? Trump was his usual pompous offensive self and Hilary mouthed platitudes and toed the politically acceptable line.

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Smug Trumph. He is an idiot, plain and simple. The only reason he is the Republican nominee for president is because the Republicans party and Republicans are so out of touch.

The shooter was an American who had a grudge against gay people. His father said the shooter was motivated because he saw two gay men kissing in Miami. He was being radicalized by a former U.S. Marine and ex-convict who encouraged crimes against gay people. So, all the actors are domestic, and the real reason for the shooting is an angry homophobe.

Trump's supposed policies to block immigration of Muslims would have never stopped this shooting since everyone involved were Americans. He callously congratulates himself, for what? Hate and policies that would have done nothing to stop this shooting. I'm just surprised he didn't congratulate the shooter, because I am sure he is also a homophobe, like the rest of the Republican establishment. They don't believe in liberty, except when it applies to policies that support their wealth.

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a gunman wielding an assault-type rifle and a handgun opened fire inside a crowded gay nightclub early Sunday, killing at least 50 people before dying in a gunfight with SWAT officers, police

I'm not a big supporter of LGBT, but I feel really bad for LGBT community. After listening to what Trump and Clinton have to say, I hope Caitlyn Jenner will come out and do press conference.

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A close look at Obama’s rhetoric shows he has not referred to the “Islamic State” by that name since he plunged the U.S. military into an undeclared but escalating war against the group two years ago. Obama, who tends to stick with “ISIL,” explained his thinking roughly one month after the first U.S. airstrikes against the group.

"ISIL is not Islamic" No religion condones the killing of innocents. And the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim,” he said on Sept. 10, 2014. “And ISIL is certainly not a state. “

Obama went on, “it is recognized by no government, nor by the people it subjugates. ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way.”

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Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, pushed for gun control

So, Mrs. Clinton - who is best buds with the Islamic terrorist nations and takes their bribe money - wants not to address the radical Islamic terror issue but wants to disarm Americans and make it impossible for us - who have the Constitutional right right to keep and bear arms - to defend ourselves, our families and our property.

Nary a one of my 13 guns -- including three AR-15's -- have ever gotten out of the safe they are in, loaded and cocked themselves, walked out of the house and down the street looking for someone to shoot or kill.

Screw gun control, Mrs. Clinton. I support Muslim control. . . .

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It is nice to see Hillary finally come out of the closet on this.

{slow clap...} Still keeping it classy, I see.

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viking68 You also forgot to mention the shooter pledge to Isis and called 911 pledging to Isis on his way to the scene. So to be more accurate is was an Islamic terrorist targeting a soft target of a homosexual bar. Also in the Koran it's very clear that gays are looked down upon and should be killed. Look it up. Islam on homosexuality. So to say Islam has nothing to do with this shooting is just plain ignorance.

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To the western leaders like obama who like to rule as to who is Islamic and who is not I have news for you: the Islamic world is laughing and resentful at both your ignorance and your arrogance. Who are you to speak for Islam? Let Islam speak for itself - and the lists of Islamic groups and individuals who disagree with you ( make that VIOLENTLY disagree) are very very long.

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what exactly is obamas problem with using the expression "radical islam" ??

Doing so would legitimize what everyone else already knows and that's we are at war with radical Islam. Obama is one of the worst presidents ever. He just won't say the obvious and he will always put other countries ahead of his own. In order to be PC you don't want to rock the boat, so you need to make another excuse to call radical Islam something different from what it really is and as long as you do that, you never fight this and take the next precautionary steps.

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Also in the Koran it's very clear that gays are looked down upon and should be killed. Look it up. Islam on homosexuality. So to say Islam has nothing to do with this shooting is just plain ignorance.

The church and Christian 'integrists' a la Ted Cruz aren't particularly tolerant either. Same for the 3rd Reich and many other non religious movements. Islam doesn't have a monopoly on anti-homosexuality. They have plenty of allies.

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So to say Islam has nothing to do with this shooting is just plain ignorance.

Islam was an excuse to do what he wanted. That was the part Islam and ISIS played.

The fact is that this person was an American, and the people involved are Americans. He lived his whole life in America.

No supposed policy of Trumph's to block Muslims from immigrating would have changed the result, and Trumph deserves no credit whatsoever.

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Glorious leader Trump, show us the way.

May your enemies move to Canada because they are too hypocritical to move to Mexico.

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I would NEVER mock disabled.

We all saw it, Donny.

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Hillarys going for the LBGT and Muslim vote.

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goldorak:

" The church and Christian 'integrists' a la Ted Cruz aren't particularly tolerant either. Same for the 3rd Reich and many other non religious movements. Islam doesn't have a monopoly on anti-homosexuality. They have plenty of allies. "

Islam has a monopoly on coming with a religious law that mandates the killing of homosexuals, and which is actually enforced in countries with Shariah. To try to relative that with Christian opposition to gay marriaga or wedding cakes is ignorant to put it mildly.

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To try to relative that with Christian opposition to gay marriaga or wedding cakes is ignorant to put it mildly.

Different shades of black.

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The fact is that this person was an American, and the people involved are Americans. He lived his whole life in America.

____________________________________________________ It would have caught his parents moving here. And if ISIS has infiltrated the FBI or Department of Homeland Security, which I am beginning to wonder, Trump will have policies to address the threat becoming internal. It isn't like a ban is going to be the only proposal.

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nd if ISIS has infiltrated the FBI or Department of Homeland Security, which I am beginning to wonder, Trump will have policies to address the threat becoming internal. It isn't like a ban is going to be the only proposal.

That's scary thinking. I would encourage you to read up on the damage done to individuals and individual freedoms by McCarthy and other ultra right wing extremists in the 1950's. If you don't want to read, watch the movie Trumbo with B Cranston and H Mirren. Do right wing reactionaries really want to go back to the 1950's? Is that why 'progressive' is a pejorative to them?

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if ISIS has infiltrated the FBI or Department of Homeland Security, which I am beginning to wonder, Trump will have policies to address the threat becoming internal.

You know what's really scary, what if ISIS became the president of the world!!! That's really scary.

I think we need to start torturing all world leaders to find out what commitments to terrorist groups they are hiding.

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Wrote Laurie Kellman: "Tweeted Clinton..." Thought I: "Wouldn't that sound better forwards?"

Posted I: "Wrote Laurie Kellman: 'Tweeted Clinton...' Thought I: "Wouldn't that sound better forwards?'"

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Texas

13 guns? Even though you only have two hands?!

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Strangerland:

" Different shades of black. "

No, a completely different ballgame. If you are not able to see that... good grief

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Hillarys going for the LBGT and Muslim vote.

The LGBT have been made of as an example of being a "soft target". Perhaps they should be supporting Trump.

As far as the muslim vote, they should be careful. Hillary was once on board with hawks like Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. She was ALL FOR that unilateral invasion. Go trump ! Go Hillary! Whichever can get the job done & stick it to america'S enemies . . . .in this case -radical islam.

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Clinton oppose assault gun

Trump. People should be able to own assault gun for protection

Congress were discussing to declare war against ISIS

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As I said before, this should propel Trump to the White House. Obama wants more gun control, this is a joke, congress will never go along with it, after what happened the other day, forget it.

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Sanders supporters are saying that the California primary was rigged and that if all the provisional ballots were counted, Sanders actually won California in a landslide. Well, he sure drew bigger crowds...

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