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Trump will try to get under Clinton's skin like he does everyone else to get her to 'break'. Unfortunately, she will take the high road and not return fire. If Clinton really went after him, he would get so flustered and angry, he might rip off his earpiece and mic and storm off the stage. He is just too thin skinned to handle anyone standing up to him.

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but has held midflight policy discussions with a rotating cast of advisers.

This is partial explanation for his continually rotating policies. How will his handlers have him spin his ever-whirling platform during the debate? May his circles remain broken.

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Interesting phenomenon going on here, with both candidates inviting guests intended to rattle the other by giving them tickets to front-row seats. First, Clinton invited Mark Cuban, a Trump critic and man who rivals him in wealth. Trump retaliated by inviting Gennifer Flowers, (in)famous only for a brief affair with Clinton's husband a few decades ago. The Debate Commission is looking into this, stating that the two may not be allowed to sit in the front row.

Interestingly, Clinton is able to call on one of many, many contemporary figures who have clashed with Trump and are likely to knock him off his game. Trump is unable to respond to Hillary directly as such an equivalent person, one who would offend her directly, does not exist; all he can do is dig up a decades-old scandal. Perhaps Clinton should invite Ivana and Marla as well

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/flowers-says-shell-accept-trumps-invitation-to-debate.html

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The networks will make great effort to see that she’s not seen on camera, although Hillary and Bill will obviously notice. If she is sitting next to Cuban does that mean he can't be shown either ? Smart move.

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This is gonna be fun.

Hillary wanted a stool to match Trumps height. The Commission nixed it. No Commercial or bathroom breaks either. If Hillary starts coughing, she's gonna have to rough through it. Of course if she feints on stage, that would be a medical emergency.

It will be interesting to see how many NFL fans turn away off Monday Night Football to watch. But I guess many are already considered "deplorables" by soft feet lefties, so they don't care and will vote Trump.

Go get her Trump! Take this hegomonic warmonger off her golden ADA pedestal.

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So, this will be a game show and not a debate?

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Am really looking forward to it. I think Trump will bring an unassuming almost 'humble' approach (for DT standards) to the debate. Don't think it's in his interest to bully or destroy Hillary and prove her wrong at all costs plus he also has a fair few skeletons in the closet. The man v woman thing will also be an important factor, can't rip her to pieces in a debate or be overly agressive.

Just watched him in Virginia and he again used his 'what do you have to lose' line aimed at african-americans, hispanics etc. Dunno if it will be enough but I think it's his best shot with minority voters and all other dissatisfied americans who work 2-3 jobs on 10 bucks an hour etc. Whether it's true or not (obviously their situation could even be worse under DT but many don't want to contemplate this) is irrelevant, they are unhappy right now and that's all that matters.

I think it will harder for Hillary to be likeable, sincere etc but if she pulls it off well DT is in big trouble imo. Ppl want to like or trust Hillary but they just can't (I know I can't).

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At least judging by her last ad, Hillary was planning to bring up all of Trump’s supposedly sexist statements and throw them in his face. Donald the woman abuser. Meanwhile, one of the many woman she helped destroy will be front and center. Gennnifer Flowers was a stroke of genius for that reason alone.

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Lizz, I don't think you understand. Cuban and Flowers the electorate are mostly ignorant about, and even those who recognize them would not care. The point is the effect it will have on the candidates. After all this time, I doubt the presence of Flowers would have any adverse effect on Clinton (might be the opposite, actually). The reverse is likely true for Teump. Cuban is informed, erudite, suave - all the things Trump wishes to be but is not. Having him in the audience will likely unnerve this poor pansy, Trump. A 90 minute debate with no Twitter breaks is not exactly Trump's comfort zone.

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Clinton invited Mark Cuban, a Trump critic and man who rivals him in wealth.

Ahh, Cuban is a mulit-billionaire.

Trump says he is. But ain't.

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Wasn't it Cuban that was begging to be the VP of Trump just a few months ago ? Flowers isn't there for the electorate but it is insurance if Hillary starts on her odd harangue against mistreatment of women like she did with the alternative media.

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I will not watch the 'debate.' Because

it is not a debate. Its a Q and A.

No one will change their minds: Clinton is 4% ahead nationally, just where she was before the conventions.

Unless something AMAZING, or SHOCKING, or INCREDIBLE happens!!!!

which it won't

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This is going to be interesting....

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Wow, some on the right are hoping for health problems by Hillary.

When your candidate is hoping the other candidate to be sick in order to win the debate, it doesn't say much for their policies.

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No one will change their minds: Clinton is 4% ahead nationally, just where she was before the conventions.

It's like 1980 all over again.

Unless something AMAZING, or SHOCKING, or INCREDIBLE happens!!!!

1980 was very amazing as well as shocking.

which it won't

Yeah, I remember Dems saying the same thing, but I'm a realist.

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Look forward to this. Clinton has decades of experience, knowledge of facts, clear policies, the latest information, debating experience and is used to handle the pressure in a composed and eloquent manner. She will be using all of her experience and skills to expose Trump for what he is.

Trump has none of that. He has managed to lie and deceive his fan base, but to win the presidency he's going to have to do it again to the people who are not in either camp atm or are slightly wary of Hillary. He won't be able to. He will deviate from answers, detour from facts and try to go back to his catch phrases "Make America great again", "No more immigrants from Muslim countries", "...Believe me!", etc.

I wonder who will win...

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I think anyone who predicts what either candidate will or will not be able to do is probably in for a bit of a shock. Both of them have had months to prepare for this, with advisors who have given them strategy on exactly what and what not to say, and how to say what they are going to say.

The debates are an unknown. Either candidate could excel, or go up in flames.

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I wonder who will win...>

lol I do too. Especially since according to most polls he won the Commander in Chief Forum two weeks ago by a two to one margin and even Clinton's supporters were calling her performance rusty at best. Trump was very good considering the moderator bias but not spectacular either, though, I will admit.

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One thing we can guarantee, if Trump does poorly, he'll blame it on moderator bias rather than his own poor performance or policies.

And he'll likely refuse to debate her anymore.

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Also, the whole Gennifer Flowers thing... pretty deplorable behavior if you ask me.

You don't see Clinton invite all of the women Trump had an affair with, do you? Risky move by Trump - could (and should) alienate plenty of voters.

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You don't see Clinton invite all of the women Trump had an affair with, do you? Risky move by Trump - could (and should) alienate plenty of voters.

But won't.

With the amount of things he has said and done that his supporters already overlook, this one is pretty much nothing.

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Trump misspelled Flowers’ first name in his original tweet, then sent a corrected version minutes later.

Odd choice given the impact it might have on female voters. He's probably invented a narrative that he is protecting women by inviting her? That's my guess. Others might see it as trying to humiliate a woman through her husband's actions, which could humanize Hillary.

Either way you'd have to be a fringe right or self-loading female to support Trump on this.

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Also, the whole Gennifer Flowers thing... pretty deplorable behavior if you ask me

Clinton’s decision to ask businessman Mark Cuban — a frequent Trump critic — to be one of her guests at the debate.

This was in retaliation for Clinton inviting Cuban. This totally went over your head...lol. Proof lefties hear what they wanna hear, all else is filtered out.

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This totally went over your head...lol

I ignored it as it Cuban is a critic of Trump's policies, as am I. So Clinton inviting him is totally legit. But Trump is known to explode at the slightest, as demonstrated by him inviting Gennifer Flowers and just to try to frustrate Clinton, but not in terms of content (policies), but rather her husband's past personal mistakes. Talk about non-related stuff.

Maybe this totally went over your head.

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"Go get her Trump! Take this hegomonic warmonger off her golden ADA pedestal."

Do you think Trump will drive home his plans to further expand the already massively bloated military during the debates?

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Bill Clinton's Ex-Girlfriend, Gennifer Flowers, Confirms She Will "Definitely Be At The Debate"

Either way you'd have to be a fringe right or self-loading female to support Trump on this.

Wow! Nice spin! Talk about blaming the victim.

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Interesting. Trump, supposedly a savvy businessman is not supported by any fortune 100 CEOs. He can't even get respect from the leaders in his own 'industry'. And if there ever was something to show that his becoming president will be horrible for the economy, this is it.

Link: http://www.wsj.com/articles/no-fortune-100-ceos-back-republican-donald-trump-1474671842

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Interesting. Trump, supposedly a savvy businessman is not supported by any fortune 100 CEOs

Irrelevent since they ARE the establishment.

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Flowers isn't there for the electorate but it is insurance if Hillary starts on her odd harangue against mistreatment of women like she did with the alternative media.

Lizz, Hillary is not Bill. She is no more responsible for her husband's actions than Trump is for actions of his three wives (like posing nude - I've got no problem with that, but Evangelical rationalization is disgusting). It is Trump, though, who is responsible for having three wives. The patience, dignity, and fortitude Hillary showed dealing with Bill's dalliances is the steel required in presidential material, not a cut-and-run approach once the object of one's fascination begins showing her age.

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Irrelevent since they ARE the establishment.

And you think Trump isn't?

That reminds me of that what they say about the devil's greatest achievement being that he has convinced people he doesn't exist.

Anyone that thinks Trump isn't establishment has shown themselves to be exactly the sheep they claim to denounce.

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Stranger, maybe you missed this from a few days ago, but many who know Trump a LOT better than you say your wrong.

Here's a lifelong democrat New York Statesman who says your wrong.

I was elected five times to the New York state Assembly as a Democrat. In 1977, I beat David Dinkins and Robert Wagner Jr. in the election for borough president of Manhattan, and then was elected twice as City Council president.

I have known him since the early 1970s and have seen his deep concern for people, and how effective he has been while working on behalf of the average citizen. Donald Trump is no racist. On the contrary, he offers the best hope for rebuilding our inner cities and creating better education and jobs for those trapped in poverty and lacking hope. When a hurricane devastated Puerto Rico in 1984, I asked Mr. Trump to provide a 727 airliner to bring critical supplies to the island. He did so and without publicity. I asked him to rebuild the Wollman Skating Rink in Central Park because the city couldn’t complete it in 10 years. Mr. Trump did it in under six months and under budget.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-23/sometimes-party-loyalty-asks-too-much-lifelong-establishment-democrat

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How does what you posted contradict what I said?

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I guess that depends on your definition of what makes a person part of the establishment.

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'Bout that aid to Puerto Rico, Fizz - as usual, it was OPM (other people's money). Trump Shuttle was bought by Trump entirely using loans from a syndicate of 22 banks in 1989, the same year Hurricane Danny hit Puerto Rico. New York has a large Puerto Rican population and Trump Shuttle was still relatively unknown, so his gesture made great publicity sense - and the cost was entirely borne by the company, which went bankrupt three years later, meaning that it was ultimately borne by those 22 banks suckers: Trump waked away from the Trump Shuttle wreckage without losing a dime. Notice that they never lend to Trump anymore.

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Tit for tat Laguna.

If you're going to make a issue about graft, you might want to find out why Hiatians are so angry at the Clintons and their foundation. Of course it's easy to make an issue of trumps graft since he's a businessman, just the same, I can make an issue of Hillarys warmongering killing women and children, which Trump has not done.

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Oh I really wanted to see this.. but of course I'll be at work missing the entire show. Wanted some popcorn and enjoy the entertainment.... but I guess I'll be left looking at the highlights.

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...it's also true that Trump volunteered the expertise of his construction team to do a beautiful job with the Wollman Skating Rink - but remember, the City still paid for it, so it's not like he lost money. And a couple decades later, his name is till on the rink Website. Again, good promotion for himself. (Check for yourself! http://www.wollmanskatingrink.com/ )

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..it's also true that Trump volunteered the expertise of his construction team to do a beautiful job with the Wollman Skating Rink - but remember, the City still paid for it, so it's not like he lost money. And a couple decades later, his name is till on the rink Website. Again, good promotion for himself. (Check for yourself!

So what...Big deal...I wonder how much $$ the city wasted in those 10 years before trump took over.

I noticed you still called it the Wollman Skating Rink.

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Sorry, Fizz - should have called it the TrumpⒸ (in big red letters at the page header) Wollman Skating Rink. New York wasted millions on it, and Trump's team completed it early and under budget. Cheers for that.

Still, there is quite a difference between repairing a skating rink outside one's office and attempting to repair a country that had never properly functioned to begin with in its entire history, wouldn't you say? The Clintons went into Haiti with the best intentions and made some mistakes, as have most outsiders who've attempted intervention there (Graham Greene's "The Comedians" remains one of my favorites) - but it wasn't for lack of trying and it certainly wasn't malevolent. And, contrary to common opinion, the Clintons pured in their efforts (and, yes, their own money) not for personal profit or fame but due to their desire to rectify wrongs.

This is a very informative article written by an AP reporter who spent much time on the ground in Haiti and later wrote a book about the aims and failures of American intervention there, including the Clinton Foundation efforts. As for the Haitians who are angry at the Clintons, most of them are grifters from the kleptocracy who were forced to flee the country. Anger from this cabal is a badge of honor. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/09/the_truth_about_the_clintons_and_haiti.html

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Hillarys warmongering

But Trump brought up the nuclear option for dealing with ISIS. Also, Trump plans on building up the military. He will be worse. Hillary has great world leadership and should be president.

Irrelevent since they ARE the establishment.

No, they are a group of people that keep the world going and the American economy strong. Where do you think the US would be without people like Bill Gates? If they were all like Trump there would be no Fortune 500 base. Trump is not part of the establishment because if he were he would ruin it and the US would be like Venezuela.

Bill Clinton's Ex-Girlfriend, Gennifer Flowers, Confirms She Will "Definitely Be At The Debate"

How about Dennis Hastert's boy interns he illegally molested. Bill Clinton did not molest children like Dennis Hastert did. Bill never arrested for his extra curricular activities. But Hastert is in prison for molesting boy Interns.

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Go get 'em Hillary! Kick some serious butt Mon, night ! 1/20/17 - "Madame President" !

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Irrelevant since they ARE the establishment.

trump is new to politics but that does not make him any less an establishment candidate. His policies are right out of the box establishment. Not really different from Romney and McCain before him. He admits himself he has being paying for performance for decades in politics. He used that line to attack his republican foes in the primaries, saying they are on the take unlike him. Of course he is taking money from right wing billionaires now with no problem.

All this points out that republicans only know how to take sides and know nothing even about their own candidate. If the party nominated a kumquat they would vote for it. Millions of US voters are lost is a swirl of lies and spin and they cannot see Trump clearly, see him for the con man that he is. If Trump does win they will learn the hard way down the road that again the liberals are right, as we always are on fact, but by then the right wing lost types will be onto the next delusion. It is so predictable, even trite. Just ask them about WMD in Iraq. So predictable, even trite.

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Ted Cruz -- the man who said he would never support someone who slanders his family -- has once again shown his true colours and cowered before Trump since Trump's gone up in the ratings. What a weak-minded, simple loser! He's going to do another 180 when Trump loses the election so that he can try and position himself as the person in charge of the defunct GOP.

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Laguna

This is a very informative article written by an AP reporter who spent much time on the ground in Haiti and later wrote a book

Did you read the book?

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More about the Clinton Foundation - and in particular, their Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) - can be read here. A great danger of attacking the Clintons on this front is that it will deter future retired presidents from leveraging their influence to do good. Some former presidents simply faded away - Reagan rode horses off into the sunlight, and GW Bush seems content to paint portraits of himself in the shower (though he seems to be getting out a bit more lately) - but others have done very important work: Carter with Habitat for Humanity, GHW Bush with his Thousand Points of Light Foundation - and, of course, the Clintons are key examples.A worry with the ignorant, vicious criticism of the Clintons is that future ex-presidents will simply figure the future risk is too high and simply give up. Read this article on all the lives that the Clinton has saved and ask yourself if that is the road America wants to take. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/22/12893444/clinton-foundation-effectiveness

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Do you think Trump will drive home his plans to further expand the already massively bloated military during the debates?

The problem with our military is, we just don't have a leader that is willing to lead our brave men and woman. for now at least.

More about the Clinton Foundation - and in particular, their Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) - can be read here. A great danger of attacking the Clintons on this front is that it will deter future retired presidents from leveraging their influence to do good. Some former presidents simply faded away - Reagan rode horses off into the sunlight, and GW Bush seems content to paint portraits of himself in the shower (though he seems to be getting out a bit more lately) - but others have done very important work: Carter with Habitat for Humanity, GHW Bush with his Thousand Points of Light Foundation - and, of course, the Clintons are key examples.A worry with the ignorant, vicious criticism of the Clintons is that future ex-presidents will simply figure the future risk is too high and simply give up. Read this article on all the lives that the Clinton has saved and ask yourself if that is the road America wants to take.

Ok, read through that, so any transcript documents on her speeches or receipts of proof to where all that money went?

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@Base we just don't have a leader that is willing to lead our brave men and woman.

Another empty statement.

Lead them where? War? Which specific brave men and women do you want to have risk death and serious injury for your personal imperialistic values?

You've admitted you've never served in the military. Why would you expect others to risk their lives for you and other chickenhawk reactionaries when you, for whatever reason, never served?

I prefer a leader who'll do whatever possible to minimize any chance of military involvement. My preferred leader will bring the US troops back to the US while also reducing military spending.

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The problem with our military is, we just don't have a leader that is willing to lead our brave men and woman. for now at least.

Yeah, man is such a hoss, man. The guy had the chance to serve his country numerous times, but got deferments instead, maybe the military won't accept carrots. We don't know. We just don't, but you know he's a big, tough man the way he attacked former POWs like McCain and gold star families.

Ok, read through that, so any transcript documents on her speeches or receipts of proof to where all that money went?

Gooodd point! They're probably under lock and key right next to Trump's tax retentions. Just kidding, a cursory Google search for "Clinton Foundation Filings" reveals all the secret information. RoflmaoBenghazi

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Another empty statement.

Because the left say so?

Lead them where? War? Which specific brave men and women do you want to have risk death and serious injury for your personal imperialistic values?

So if we are ever attacked or if we have to go to war with one of our enemies (you can't rule that out, ever) how should we fight with Pockey sticks or throw tomatoes at them while using old equipment?

You've admitted you've never served in the military. Why would you expect others to risk their lives for you and other chickenhawk reactionaries when you, for whatever reason, never served?

Half of my family served in the military, so with all due respect, I don't think you can make that kind of comment, No one likes a war, I don't and never did, but there will be conflicts and I do believe in a strong military, always have and always will, that doesn't mean I'm war connoisseur. Please don't conflate the two. But having a strong military with a strong leader with intimidating weaponry can dissuade another country, a deterrent if you will that might get the wrong idea of starting some crazy confrontation

I prefer a leader who'll do whatever possible to minimize any chance of military involvement.

Then you really don't want to vote for Hillary if that's the case.

My preferred leader will bring the US troops back to the US while also reducing military spending.

Then your only option would be Trump then.

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so any... receipts of proof to where all that money went?

Here you go, but I don't expect you'll believe it, seeing as it's full of facts and all that stupid stuff: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2013/311/580/2013-311580204-0b0083da-9.pdf

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Half of my family served in the military, so with all due respect, I don't think you can make that kind of comment

You said you were in the secret forces or something. Then became CEO of a global Fortune 500 company. Then became a Japanese citizen.

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"Donald Trump needs to prove to voters that he has the policy depth and gravitas to serve as commander in chief. Hillary Clinton needs a moment to connect with Americans who question whether she can be trusted."

Hillary also needs to prove she has the policy depth and gravitas to serve as commander in chief. And she can't.

And this is interesting: "The More Hillary Talks The More People Hate Her" . ( The Jimmy Dore Show )

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A point about Hillary's speeches that it seems the less astute have yet to grasp: They were done in her capacity as a private citizen, not as a member of government nor on behalf of the Clinton Foundation. Unless one is willing to require that all private speech by a presidential candidate must become public property, demands for their release are illogical; and if the opposite is the case, one might as well demand transcripts of Trump's business meetings over the past few years (and good luck with that! . he won't even release summaries of his tax returns!).

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What's the problem with Hillary's speeches? I don't get the scandal

Same as all Hillary "scandals" - stuff made up by the right to try to smear her.

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Glad we both agree Trumpster needs to release his tax returns. Go Trump!

Yes!

trump is new to politics but that does not make him any less an establishment candidate. His policies are right out of the box establishment.

But he never had a symbiotic relationship with them, big difference. It's like saying, I eat McDonald's, but I'm also on the board of directors.

Of course he is taking money from right wing billionaires now with no problem.

Yes, If you have the money, you can buy a house in cash, but if you want to build credit, that's not the way to go. Trump needed to get some donors if he wants to be competitive in a presidential race and have liquid assets to create ads to attack her, it costs too much even for a man like Trump, so in that sense, he did the right thing, but remember, this is just for the presidential cycle only.

All this points out that republicans only know how to take sides and know nothing even about their own candidate. If the party nominated a kumquat they would vote for it.

if that can ensure that Hillary doesn't get into the White House, I'm voting for a Hibiscus if I have to!

Millions of US voters are lost is a swirl of lies and spin and they cannot see Trump clearly, see him for the con man that he is.

So what do you call the 64% of Americans that feel like they're going to engage in a protein spill thinking about Hillary?

If Trump does win they will learn the hard way down the road that again the liberals are right, as we always are on fact, but by then the right wing lost types will be onto the next delusion. It is so predictable, even trite. Just ask them about WMD in Iraq. So predictable, even trite.

America as a nation can't suffer anymore than we have over the last 8 years, it's probably going to take at least 3 years to emotionally recover from this guy. But thankfully, he will be gone out of the White House soon and the nightmare over.

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Getting exciting in the last six weeks or so, huh guys ? We will be a witness to history ! "Madame President" ! GO HILLARY !

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We will be a witness to history ! "Madame President" ! GO HILLARY !

Howard Hughes made somewhat of a history, but then what happened?

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it's probably going to take at least 3 years to emotionally recover from this guy

Only for the emotionally unstable and fragile souls who think they've been hard done by. For the rest, its been a road of recovery from the Bush years so a lot of good work has been done, and more will be done under Clinton.

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Really, all Trump has to do to win this debate is to be himself. What he says is what he believes. This is not the case with Hillary Clinton. Really, for her to win the debate, she would have to become a different person.

"Madame President" ! GO HILLARY !"

Sorry, you're gonna have to wait for Ivanka after one or two terms of Donald for your Madame President.

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Trump should just let Hillary talk as much as possible. After just a few seconds, her voice grates on any thinking person's nerves, especially without hearing protection. Why is she ALWAYS SHOUTING? Is it a symptom of her brain trauma? (Austin Powers: " ... I'm having difficulty controlling THE VOLUME OF MY VOICE.")

Watch her eyes shifting independently.

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Only for the emotionally unstable and fragile souls who think they've been hard done by. For the rest, its been a road of recovery from the Bush years so a lot of good work has been done, and more will be done under Clinton.

Right, so now it's the rest of the nations turn to recover from this guy. It was a long and strenuous 8 years.

Trump should just let Hillary talk as much as possible. After just a few seconds, her voice grates on any thinking person's nerves, especially without hearing protection. Why is she ALWAYS SHOUTING? Is it a symptom of her brain trauma? (Austin Powers: " ... I'm having difficulty controlling THE VOLUME OF MY VOICE.")

You noticed that as well? Maybe it's because of her sickness, she probably has a difficult time hearing herself.

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Right, so now it's the rest of the nations turn to recover from this guy. It was a long and strenuous 8 years.

But Trump is going to come after japan and make them suffer. He has vengeful feelings towards Japan and Japanese people fear him.

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Trump needs to prove he isn't a lying lightweight with a big mouth. Hillary needs to prove she isn't a lying criminal with one foot in the grave. Good luck to both.

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Trump is the Ferris Bueller of the debate, Hillary is the Jeannie Bueller.

"Trump should just let Hillary talk as much as possible"

Perhaps good strategy, but he's not that cruel to the listeners.

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Trump needs to prove he isn't a lying lightweight with a big mouth. Hillary needs to prove she isn't a lying criminal with one foot in the grave. Good luck to both.

Agreed.

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Clinton has got to watch that Trump doesn't get in early with a knob joke. A knob joke early in a debate is like what Ali did to Liston. She's also got to watch that big right hand - the devastating, side-splitting nickname. The pouty, smacked-arse face is also a formidable weapon.

Oh, sorry. This isn't a GOP candidates' debate. My apologies.

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You still haven't explained why she should release the transcripts of her speeches Bass. Has any other presidential candidate done this?

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"My preferred leader will bring the US troops back to the US while also reducing military spending."

"Then your only option would be Trump then."

Trump said he wants to increase military spending.

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Of course Hillary, if she wants to win this election, should not release the transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches - they, combined with her basket of deplorables comment would probably end her campaign even before the next batch of Wikileaks mails, even if Trump craps on the stage during the debate.

"Has any other presidential candidate done this?"

Has any other presidential candidate received as much money for speeches as Hillary?

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Again, why should she release the transcripts? The right keeps acting like this is a scandal. What makes it a scandal?

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Trump needs to prove he isn't a lying lightweight with a big mouth. Hillary needs to prove she isn't a lying criminal with one foot in the grave.> That is the going advice, and I agree Trump can come armed with policy ideas but how does one 'prove' likability or truthfulness, or even good health for that matter ?

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If Don King says Trump is going to be the next president, by golly he is! And how could Trump be a racist if Don King, Ben Carson and tons of other blacks support him, anyway?

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Serrano:. And how could Trump be a racist

Would you ever vote for someone you suspect is racist?

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You still haven't explained why she should release the transcripts of her speeches Bass. Has any other presidential candidate done this?

We haven't had a presidential candidate with as much baggage and the history of lying the way the Clinton's have had and as a politician with the history and taking our tax money? Yes, I want to see the transcripts.

If she can do that, all of her speeches, signed, sealed, delivered, unedited and nothing redacted, complete transparency I will personally apologize on JT for misjudging her for over the last 35 years.

But something tells me, I won't need to. https://youtu.be/-dY77j6uBHI

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Trump has it easy. His weaknesses are mostly fabricated or exaggerated adjectives invented by media and his detractors. All he has to do is be a normal not crazy rich guy. Since he isn't racist, nor bigitted, nor misogynistic, nor whatever other word, he didn't have to do anything. Hillary on the other hand, has weaknesses based entirely on her provable corrupt and incompetent past as a professional politician. There is no way for her to hide her past or the unintended consequences of her mistakes and certainly no way to hide the crimes. In the end, trumps problems are from how he acts, Hillary's problems ate from what she really did. He can change how he acts, there is nothing she can do about what she really did.

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Bingo! Hit that one out of the park.

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I don't think I'll watch the non-debate. At this point, the only questions left will be in the form of personal attacks, so what's the point? I'll wait until someone make a musical version with cartoon characters and posts it on Youtube.

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Ask Trump to release his tax returns. IRS Chief has already said his tax returns are all suspicious. I would like to see his erratic excuses.

The Presidential Tax Transparency Act, candidates will, by law, have to make public their last three years of tax returns.

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If each candidates tax returns are audited I don't find it necessary for them to release them publicly. Nothing wrong with them volunteering to do so but if they are obeying the law who cares.

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We haven't had a presidential candidate with as much baggage and the history of lying the way the Clinton's have had and as a politician with the history and taking our tax money? Yes, I want to see the transcripts.

So essentially your scandal is that she won't show her transcripts even though you want to see them. How scandalous.

If she can do that, all of her speeches, signed, sealed, delivered, unedited and nothing redacted, complete transparency I will personally apologize on JT for misjudging her for over the last 35 years.

Yeah, she's been cleared of Benghazi, and you guys still go on about it. She's been cleared of the emails, and you guys still go on about it. Do you really think anyone is stupid enough to think that comments like the above one have any credibility, and that you'd actually stop going on about her speeches even if she released transcripts, videos, audio, and even sworn testimony about what was said in every single speech that was ever written?

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on Benghaziemailroflmailtranscript.

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Takeda.Shingen wrote: "... The guy had the chance to serve his country numerous times, but got deferments instead, ..." ... ... So glad you brought this up, my lord Takeda most eminent warlord. I assume you mean "serve" by volunteering for Vietnam. Now, about deferments... I had a 2S (student) deferment during 2 years of the Vietnam War and, owing to a high draft lottery number, a 1H (second priority group) after that. A 1H meant I would not be called, as the draft board told me, unless the Soviets attacked West Germany - no worries as I probably would have been vaporized in the ensuing nuclear exchange before reaching Europe. You know, Takeda-tono, there were millions of guys like me who were quite content to have had deferments. Quite content to have others serve. I respect those who did. And there were quite a few young men who would rather not have been drafted and flown to Vietnam. So, why don't you send Mr.Trump a white feather. Send out millions while you're at it.

Moderator: Please repost without the "my lord Takeda most eminent warlord" drivel.

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What concerns me is how Trump supporters are giving him a free pass on showing his taxes. I'm not sure why they would work against their own interests like that, even if they hate Hillary.

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So essentially your scandal is that she won't show her transcripts even though you want to see them. How scandalous.

Me and the majority of Americans that don't carry the Hilary water.

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What concerns me is how Clinton supporters are giving her a free pass on showing her Goldman Sachs speech transcripts. Also her lying and corruption and arrogance, and I could go on.

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Why should she show transcripts of talks she gave as a private citizen. I don't see you asking for trump to do the same.

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Why should she show transcripts of talks she gave as a private citizen. I don't see you asking for trump to do the same.

As a private citizen? His salary wasn't coming out of our pockets, unlike Hilary's, so yes, I want her to be as transparent as possible and as honest as possible and I know that's asking A LOT from HRC.

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As a private citizen? His salary wasn't coming out of our pockets, unlike Hilary's, so yes, I want her to be as transparent as possible and as honest as possible and I know that's asking A LOT from HRC.

So, what you are suggesting is that government employees should be honest than private sector workers? Ermmm

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As a private citizen? His salary wasn't coming out of our pockets, unlike Hilary's

The transcripts you're asking for are for when she was a private citizen. Same as Trump. So how do you justify not asking for transcripts of his meetings as well?

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So fess up. Someone has got you guys riled up about these transcripts. What do you think you'll find? What's been promised?

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So fess up. Someone has got you guys riled up about these transcripts. What do you think you'll find? What's been promised?

And they still haven't explained why it's a scandal that she won't, other than that they want to see them, so she's bad for not doing what they want.

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So, what you are suggesting is that government employees should be honest than private sector workers? Ermmm

How are we supposed to keep on paying high salary to government workers if we have a sluggish economy and the people are not making any money, or putting money back into the economy since they get their wages from the tax payers. If you have uncertainty in the market and No one is spending money because people are afraid and the private sector is not producing enough jobs and people are sitting on their money and not spending it, you have what we have now a sluggish economy.

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You still didn't answer why you are not asking for transcripts and/or recordings of Trump's private meetings as well. Or what it is you think you'll find if Clinton were to release these.

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You still didn't answer why you are not asking for transcripts and/or recordings of Trump's private meetings as well. Or what it is you think you'll find if Clinton were to release these.

Because, his not getting MY money to pay for his salary, he doesn't have an organization that deals with dignitaries from all over the world to sell influence. If he were a public official and i was paying his salary, yes, i would want that as well, but he's working in the private sector.

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Because, his not getting MY money to pay for his salary

And:

he's working in the private sector

Neither was Hillary for the transcripts which you are demanding. So again, why are you asking for hers and not Trump's, when they were both in the capacity of private citizens.

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Exactly what Strangerland said. She gave those speeches AFTER she resigned. Not a dime of public money was used, the companies she spoke at paid.

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Neither was Hillary for the transcripts which you are demanding.

Hillary was and still is in the public sector, so it makes a huge difference. Personally, I could care less, because Hillary has to deal with her untrustworthy numbers. It was funny when she complained on TV shouting, she doesn't understand why she's not 50 points ahead, I couldn't even believe that woman would even, could even say something THAT stupid. If she doesn't know why people don't like her, then she really has a mental problem that needs to be seriously checked out. I worry about the woman.

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Hillary was and still is in the public sector

Once again Bass shows a complete lack of awareness of reality.

Please tell us what position she holds in the public sector.

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As for her position she's a questionable candidate with a lot of suspicious baggage as well as behavior

That position isn't in the public sector.

You have claimed that she is in the public sector. What position does she hold in the public sector?

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Of course it is. She was a politician and IS now a politician from being in the White House to the Secretary of State and senator, she served as a public servant and during that time, traveled and made a lot of money from her speeches, good for her, but only one problem, the amount of money she's made over the years doesn't add up

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She was a politician and IS now a politician

Trump is a politician as well. So why aren't you asking for transcripts of his private meetings?

she served as a public servant

You are changing what you said. You previously said she IS a public servant, and that she's getting money from your taxes. Now you are saying she WAS a private servant. No one is denying that, but you are saying you want to see transcripts from when she was a private citizen, and yet you are not calling for Trump to release transcripts of his meetings, even though he is also a private citizen.

So which is it, do you want them both to release their transcripts, or neither?

And what about Trump's tax returns?

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No, I've always said, Clinton was and is a public servant, nothing else.

And yes, I want Hillary to make all of her speeches especially the Goldman Sachs speeches, but in any event, I'm dying to see what Wikileaks will bring.

And yes, Trump should release his taxes.

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No, I've always said, Clinton was and is a public servant, nothing else.

Yes you keep repeating this. So tell us which public office she holds.

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It really is Clinton's race to lose. The winner needs 270. If Trump wins everything taken by Romney in 2012 (including the finely-balanced North Carolina) he will have 206, and needs 64 more. Where will they come from? Ohio and Florida (where he and Clinton are neck and neck) wouldn't be enough. And the others that have been in play for Republicans in recent elections - Wisconsin, Michigan, Colorado - are leaning strongly to Clinton. Pennsylvania, which would do the trick, seems at the moment to be well out of reach. So all silly arguments aside, Trump faces an uphill battle and hopefully the debates will confirm what enough people already know.

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If you want more guns on the streets then vote Trump. If you want more gun control then vote Clinton.

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Yes you keep repeating this. So tell us which public office she holds.

No, been consistent. She's always been a Public servant, nothing else.

Trump faces an uphill battle and hopefully the debates will confirm what enough people already know.

...Or what a lot of people don't know.

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No, been consistent. She's always been a Public servant, nothing else.

So again, what public office does she hold?

Anyways, I know that you would never admit that you were wrong about her being a public servant. So to move forward with this, as the rest of the sane world knows, she is not a public servant as she does not hold public office. You are demanding that she release transcripts of speeches given when she was a private citizen, yet you are not demanding transcripts of Trump's meetings when he was a private citizen. So your partisan bias is clear here, and it's very clear that you are not actually interested in truth, just in trying to smear Hillary some more.

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I was never wrong, all anyone has to do is look and see for themselves what the woman is, she is not a person that is an entrepreneur or a business woman, sneak, without a doubt, but knowing about about business, not her strong point.

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I am just a little bit happy about how such an awful candidate is succeeding in this campaign because it might just make things better in the long run. U.S. rarely, if ever, take action to fix things that are obviously broken until a tragedy occurs. U.S. won't change the woeful way of nominating a candidate for president until suffering the prospect of an inept, lying demagogue actually becoming Head of State. Even if you are a staunch Republican, can you really be happy with a candidate who has routinely embarrassed the party, thereby limiting its ability to hold onto its House and Senate majorities, with racist statements and outrageous behavior like his encouraging Russian hackers to steal the property of his opponent?

And if you are Hillary Clinton supporter, and you reject the fact that a majority of people rate her as unfavorable, can you really say she is the best candidate for your party, given that she's practically tied in polls with Trump? If you don't want to be worried about someone like Trump getting elected to the most powerful position in the world, there is a need to support change in the system that has given these two weak presidential candidates.

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I am just a little bit happy about how such an awful candidate is succeeding in this campaign because it might just make things better in the long run. U.S. rarely, if ever, take action to fix things that are obviously broken until a tragedy occurs. U.S. won't change the woeful way of nominating a candidate for president until suffering the prospect of an inept, lying demagogue actually becoming Head of State.

Fair enough, and you may actually be right about a crash being the impetus needed to fix the problem. The problem being that a Trump president isn't just going to hurt America, it's going to hurt us all. If we were talking about the leader of Sweden or Canada, well choosing someone like Trump would probably cause a bit of pain for their major trading partners. But we're talking the leader of the US, which trades with most countries, and a crash in their market is going to cause pain to all of us.

if you are Hillary Clinton supporter, and you reject the fact that a majority of people rate her as unfavorable, can you really say she is the best candidate for your party, given that she's practically tied in polls with Trump?

I don't see that your supporting argument has any relation to anything. Her polling numbers don't matter, what matters is how she performs as president if she wins. If she is a good president, then she is the best candidate. If she is a poor president, then she won't have been the best candidate.

In the long run, polls are meaningless. Whether or not the person is elected, and their following performance are all that matters.

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The Sniffling

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