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Clinton, Trump warn of dire consequences if rival wins

They are both right.

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What a pathetic election. I don't hear them say why they'd be good, but why the other one would be bad. Still, I can not accept Trump not trusting us with his tax returns but asking us to trust him to lead this country. That's not how it works in my book.

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Then imagine him plunging us into a war because somebody got under his very thin skin.

Oh hi there pot, meet kettle!!

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hillary isnt even in office and its a twisted train wreck.

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@Fred,

Clinton is the war candidate not Trump. I`d be worried about her.

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Notice how right wingers are all doom and gloom? While Dems and liberals are all pretty psyched.

I do.

Its called "enthusiasm gap." And it happens when one side nominates a candidate they like and respect, and the other nominates a Angry Yam.

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"like and respect". hillary???

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Trump has improved enormously as a candidate even from a few months ago. The jury us out on how effective he would be in office. But no doubt Clinton is a known quantity and she had stated her plans. She would be a bigger disaster than you can imagine.

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On Nov 8th, Americans vote for the lesser of two evils.

Unbelievable!

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Notice how right wingers are all doom and gloom?

Most rightists lament living in America, which they claim is a dystopia (have you read any rightists say they like life in their country?) and are awaiting the rapture their Messiah Don will bring. Amongst them are nihilists and gun-toting-angry white men who await the rupture their Don will bring. The latter know he has no plans to replace the current system and are banking on a Cormac McCarthy The Road type ending.

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A tectonic shift is taking place. White blue-collar voters, who were once the mainstay of the dems are leaving because the party has abandoned them - - Audible doubts about dems are appearing among blacks. A split is visible between the Bernie wing and the dem establishment that is based on far more than personalities. The anti-establishment revolt in the GOP was successful, the dem revolt, was not. The dem voters may not be the compliant herd that Hillary is expecting.

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I and everyone I know and love will forever AVOID THE REPUBLICAN PARTY and never again support them. Trump is helping them destroy themselves and that's a favor to the country!!!

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@CrazyJoe,

Theyve been ineffective and its time for a change. Perhaps the Rep Party is going through a rebirth.

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I don't understand why so many people still support Donald Trump. He shouldn't have been running for any kind of public office in the first place. I'm now really, really scared at the increasing possibilty of Donald Trump winning the election. I'd be very ashamed of my country if someone like Trump would ever lead my country. Come on, wake up, American people!

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I'm still waiting for the one time in history that someone wins from the write in ballot. Cough cough *bernie

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I think trump used his judgement to try to get the most effective result with someone he knew was going down the road of porn slutdom and cartel floozie if she didnt pull out of the fat and carb fueled downward path she was on. PC niceties werent gonna cut it with this signorita.

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Hillary called me deplorable. I did mind.

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PC niceties aren't going to cut it with ignoramus Trump fanboys.

That's what I'm trying to confirm, whether not being racist/bigoted is only something done to be politically correct, rather than because it's not correct. I always thought it was the latter, but it appears they may think it's the former.

I think it's something that should be clarified before people vote for their leader.

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Well you keep dodging the questions without answering them. I'll list them all here again for you:

1) Please explain the logic behind justifying bigoted statements against someone if you aren't happy with their job performance.

2) you are saying bigoted statements against people are ok as long as it's to help them?

I think trump used his judgement to try to get the most effective result with someone he knew was going down the road of porn slutdom and cartel floozie if she didnt pull out of the fat and carb fueled downward path she was on.

3) So this makes bigoted statements ok?

4) So bigoted statements are actually ok, they just aren't correct politically? Is that what you're saying? That they are fine as long as you aren't in a situation where you need to be nice with someone?

6) And again, I'm asking, are you saying bigoted statements are ok as long as it's tough love, and that they are ok as long as you are in a situation where you don't need to be nice with someone?

Are you going to keep dodging them?

Moderator: Please stop harassing other readers. They are not obliged to answer your questions.

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dire consequences for the corrupt establishment if Trump wins

dire consequences for the people if Hillary wins

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so basically, the US is screwed either way....

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Honestly, I strongly believe that Hillary Clinton deserves a glorious victory, despite all scandals. Trump doesn't have the decency of a President of a super power as the USA. His empty promises and cheating behavior throughout his six business bankruptcies to avoid taxes clearly unmask him. There will be no place in the US history for Crooked Trump and his cronies.

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"hillary deserves a glorious victory despite all scandals.". I guess hillary supporters have the same mentality as her.

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I think trump used his judgement to try to get the most effective result with someone he knew was going down the road of porn slutdom and cartel floozie if she didnt pull out of the fat and carb fueled downward path she was on. PC niceties werent gonna cut it with this signorita.

Does anyone have any idea what this is trying to say?

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Most rightists lament living in America, which they claim is a dystopia (have you read any rightists say they like life in their country?) and are awaiting the rapture their Messiah Don will bring.

No, but the situation is very bad. What the majority of people in the country are wanting and waiting for is change a big change a d a president that will put the people first and not Wall Street or line their personal pockets with more money, use their political power of the office to bribe,swindle and commit crimes for the sake of personal gain and influence.

Amongst them are nihilists and gun-toting-angry white men who await the rupture their Don will bring.

Actually, it's not just white men, but I know that's the narrative liberals are trying to sell to the public.

The latter know he has no plans to replace the current system and are banking on a Cormac McCarthy The Road type ending.

Oh, and Hillary does? I wouldn't trust that woman with my kids wallet!

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Perhaps the Rep Party is going through a rebirth. with Trump as their new messiah !!?? OMFG!

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How could any American patriot support Trump? His deformed tiny baby hands aren't even strong enough to push the launch button on America's nukes, so he wouldn't be able to defend the country if he tried

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Gun toting white man and proud of it.

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getting sick of seeing his face and listen to his so call speech. even a child has more sense than him.

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“I would rather be here talking about nearly anything else,” Clinton said Tuesday during a rally in Florida where she leveled a series of attacks on Trump’s character and preparedness for the White House.

A new poll of early voting in Florida shows nearly 30% of registered Republicans crossing over to vote for Hillary.

This is phenomenal! (and "interesting")

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Hi Yabits - do you have some link to that poll? If this is the case then yes, it is very interesting!

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TRUMP +1 in new polls! Seems like the DNC, media and friends are out of ammo! Everyone around Clinton ends up in jail, dead or pleading the 5th (Think of Lynch in the back of an airplane with Slick Willy during FBI investigation). Clinton- excellent judge of character! Alicia Machado- Has child with incarcirated Mexican drug boss, get away driver for murdering X boyfriend (Juan Rodriguez Reggeti), hardcore porno videos

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"Donald Trump could draw the United States into nuclear war, Hillary Clinton warns."

Pffft! It's more likely there will be nuclear war if Clinton wins. However it is likely that ISIS will be defeated if Trump wins.

"A new poll of early voting in Florida shows nearly 30% of registered Republicans crossing over to vote for Hillary."

Pffft! Even RCP average has Trump ahead.

Oh my...

"Gutfeld: Hillary Clinton only looks out for one woman"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsFreK2TRy4

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in fact, polling has trump ahead of hillary.

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I'm expecting Clinton to win mostly because I just can't imagine President Trump. I don't think even he knows what he's going to do.

Once or twice the US President will have to stand on stage and give a speech about something incredibly important, and most of the world will pause. You have to be smart. You have to project both strength and kindness at the same time. Part of the credibility of the country comes from those moments.

Putting Donald Trump in front of the world is just....unthinkable.

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Just read on the Beeb that the Feds released 129 pages of a 2001 investigation into Bill Clinton.

Police agencies serve democracy. Not the other way around.

Why is the FBI (once again) interfering in this election? Why do they fear Hillary?

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Hahaha, CNN and CNN's CEO Zucker have been 'Clintoned':

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/01/cnn-chief-jeff-zucker-slams-donna-braziles-disgusting-secret-collusion-with-clinton-campaign/

Damage Control: CNN Chief Jeff Zucker Slams Donna Brazile, Clinton Campaign’s Debate Cheat

... According to someone familiar with the meeting, Zucker told CNN editors that Brazile’s collusion with the Clinton camp “hurts all of us.” he went on to add, “I have no tolerance for her behavior or that kind of behavior,” Huffington Post reported. ...

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Trump for POTUS!!!

It's gonna happen!

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has hillary even apologized for cheating in the debates???????

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How did the democratic party manage to put forward the only candidate in America even capable of losing an election to a man like Donald Trump? They're both war mongers, and neither of them even remotely fit for the presidency.

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this is a bought and paid for campaign ad for the clintons.

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@Outrider - To my knowledge there was no apology. I think the right thing to do would have been to decline the questions and report this to CNN, but that would never happen as Brazile was a Democratic insider.

Furthermore, I wonder how Bernie Sanders feels about this revelation. I am not sure why you are down voted for asking a simple question. I think it is a good question.

@Hampton - As an American I find it amazing this is the best we could come up with. Trump is definitely not fit to hold the office and Clinton has way too much baggage and more seems to come out.

It is possible (maybe not likely) that Trump could win. Wow!

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A new poll of early voting in Florida shows nearly 30% of registered Republicans crossing over to vote for Hillary.

This is phenomenal! (and "interesting")

Well, that would depend on which poll you want to believe in.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/31/florida-moves-back-to-toss-up-column-giving-donald-trump-a-viable-path-to-270-electoral-votes/

I'm expecting Clinton to win mostly because I just can't imagine President Trump. I don't think even he knows what he's going to do.

What about Hillary? They found a Wikileaks where Mills and Pedesta were talking about how to delete the mails. Uh-Oh!!! That don't sound so good! Now If I were Hillary, I'm sure if she had to do this all over again, she would have taken the call for her to be more transparent a bit more seriously.

Once or twice the US President will have to stand on stage and give a speech about something incredibly important, and most of the world will pause. You have to be smart.

Trump made millions in business and Hillary made money through lying and deception.....I think the business model is smarter, although doing what she did, you have to be a sneaky and clever person to be that deceptive.

You have to project both strength and kindness at the same time. Part of the credibility of the country comes from those moments.

Then going by that, we cannot under any circumstances vote for Hillary!

Putting Donald Trump in front of the world is just....unthinkable.

There are many that think the opposite, especially when you factor in Bill coming back to the WH.

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Why is the FBI (once again) interfering in this election? Why do they fear Hillary?

Comey, the head of the FBI, was a registered Republican for most of his adult life. (Before he was appointed to lead the FBI, however, he claimed no party affiliation.) He was originally appointed US Attorney by Bush 43.

He was a vice president at Lockheed. Lockheed is one of the world's largest suppliers of military goods. Trump wants to EXPAND the US military.

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@BertieWooster

On Nov 8th, Americans vote for the lesser of two evils.

When hasn't it be like that?

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Tokyo-Engr: @Outrider - To my knowledge there was no apology. I think the right thing to do would have been to decline the questions and report this to CNN, but that would never happen as Brazile was a Democratic insider.

"That would never happen" because 'Clintons'.

I really, really, really don't think the campaign told Brazile 'that's not who we are', in response to her helpfulness.

https://www.google.com/#q=list+of+clinton+scandals

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I think the right thing to do would have been to decline the questions and report this to CNN, but that would never happen as Brazile was a Democratic insider.

It was a debate in Flint, Michigan. If you know anything about Flint, Michigan, you know about the water crisis. Brazile's heads-up was about as useful as a suggestion that the next geology exam will contain questions regarding dirt.

Still, watching the GOP manufacturing scandals is entertaining, particularly as they ignore the elephants in their own backyard. Of particular interest is whether the IRS will decide to claw back the $980 million tax exemption Trump took years ago. Apparently, his tax lawyers strongly recommended against it (hint: do not go against your tax lawyers' advice). This is likely why his tax audit is taking so long. Mah, if he becomes president, he can make this all away, plus that pesky inheritance tax thing. Good days coming!

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Trump admitting sexual assault. Clinton emails. Trump charity fraud. Clinton emails. Trump calls for nuclear proliferation. Clinton emails. Trump calls for national stop and frisk. Clinton emails. Trump violates trade embargo with Cuba. Clinton emails. Trump sued over Trump U fraud. Clinton emails. Trump bribes DA. Clinton emails. Trump doesn't pay taxes for 20 years. Clinton emails. Trump employs campaign manager involved in illegal corruption with Russia. Clinton emails. Trump calls for ban of an entire religion from entering US. Clinton emails. Trump lied about support for Iraq War over and over in debate. Clinton emails. Trump in court for rape of a minor. Clinton emails. Trump unaware of Russia's Crimea occupation. Clinton emails. Trump unaware of situation in Syria. Clinton emails. Trump penalized for racist housing discrimination. Clinton emails. Trump files for bankruptcy 6 times. Clinton emails. Trump goes 0-3 in debates by showing scant knowledge of world politics. Clinton emails. Trump slams people for being POWs. Clinton emails. Trump calls Mexicans rapists. Clinton emails. Trump questions judge's integrity because of parent's heritage. Clinton emails. Trump deletes emails involved in casino scandal. Clinton emails. Trump commits insurance fraud after Florida hurricane. Clinton emails. Trump has dozens of assault victims and witnesses come forward with allegations of abuse. Clinton emails. Trump attacks former Ms America for being overweight. Clinton emails. Trump tweets about sex tapes at 3am. Clinton emails. Trump calls for US citizens to be sent to Gitmo. Clinton emails. Trump calls for more extreme forms of torture to be used. Clinton emails. Trump asks why cant we use our nukes if we have them. Clinton emails. Trump calls for offensive bombing attack on sovereign nations because someone gave the middle finger. Clinton emails. Trump calls to kill women and children of suspected terrorists. Clinton emails. Trump says women should be punished for having abortions. Clinton emails. Trump makes fun of disabled people. Clinton emails. Trump calls for end of freedom of the press. Clinton emails. Trump calls global warming a Chinese hoax. Clinton emails. Trump praises Putin and Kim Jong Un's strong leadership. Clinton emails. Trump openly admits to not paying his employees during debate. Clinton emails. Trump calls Obama an illegitimate non-citizen hundreds of times over 7 years. Clinton emails. Trump uses campaign donations to enrich his own businesses. Clinton emails. Trump says father of Ted Cruz involved in JFK assassination citing National Enquirer. Clinton emails. Trump says laziness is an inherent trait in black people. Clinton emails.

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Comey, the head of the FBI, was a registered Republican for most of his adult life. (Before he was appointed to lead the FBI, however, he claimed no party affiliation.) He was originally appointed US Attorney by Bush 43.

He was a vice president at Lockheed. Lockheed is one of the world's largest suppliers of military goods. Trump wants to EXPAND the US military.

Thank you, PTownsend. Readers in this time zone know just how squeaky clean the aforementioned corporation has shown itself to be in the past. I can see one of the tasks for the new President when she is elected.

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@Laguna, "It was a debate in Flint, Michigan. If you know anything about Flint, Michigan, you know about the water crisis. Brazile's heads-up was about as useful as a suggestion that the next geology exam will contain questions regarding dirt."

So does this make it OK? I do not think so.

Regarding Trump's issues I would still like to see his tax returns. Also is there a link or article showing he went against his tax attorney's advice? I agree that is a foolish decision if he did that and is poor judgment.

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Bububu3: Trump admitting sexual assault. Clinton emails. Trump charity fraud. Clinton emails. Trump calls for nuclear proliferation. Clinton emails. Trump calls for national stop and frisk. Clinton emails. Trump violates trade embargo with Cuba. Clinton emails. ...

Nice example of unattributed astroturfing!

Correct the record, yo!

https://www.google.com/#q=%22Trump+admitting+sexual+assault.+Clinton+emails.+Trump+charity+fraud.+Clinton+emails.%22

About 6,880 results

Just

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He talks about having a "criminal trial of a sitting president," but isn't he the one who has a trial coming up concerning Trump uni?

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He talks about having a "criminal trial of a sitting president," but isn't he the one who has a trial coming up concerning Trump uni?

And one for raping a child.

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ABOVE THE LAW? HILLARY'S HUGE SCANDAL LIST EXPLODES TO 25

1.Clintons turn IRS into ‘gestapo’

Covering Bill’s dirty deeds 3.Looting the White House Filegate: FBI files on GOP enemies 5.‘Clinton U’ scam $ensitive intel? No experience necessary 7.Hillary’s ‘Muslim Brotherhood princess’ Vince Foster’s 1993 death 9.Emailgate: ‘She should go to prison for this’ Chinagate: Sale of high-tech secrets 11.Travelgate: Always room for friends 12.Whitewater: Jail for friends, but not Clintons ‘Landing under sniper fire’ in Bosnia 14.Hillary’s ‘missing’ law firm billing records 15.Hillary’s ‘missing’ speeches Pardongate: Hillary Senate contributions Hillary’s cash cows and 9,987 percent profit 18.Clinton body count: ‘You find dead people’ 19.Hillary’s radical pal, Saul Alinsky 20.Hillary laughs about defending child rapist Hill ca$hes in: Iranian fundraising 22.Clinton Foundation: Scandals keep coming 23.Benghazi: 4 American lives lost 24.Peter Franklin Paul: Another Hillary friend goes to prison 25.Watergate: Fired for being a ‘liar’ PLEASE READ THIS AND NEVER SUPPORT "CROOKED HILLARY CLINTON" http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/above-the-law-hillarys-huge-scandal-list-explodes-to-25/
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ABOVE THE LAW? HILLARY'S HUGE SCANDAL LIST EXPLODES TO 25

The right has only invented 25 scandals? I thought it must be more than that.

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And one for raping a child.

As of now, all of the information about this lawsuit comes solely from the complaint filed by "Katie Johnson," and no one has as yet located, identified, or interviewed her. She is technically invisible.

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The right has only invented 25 scandals? I thought it must be more than that.

Those 25 scandals are just the beginning. I think its enough to make people cringe when they hear the words "Crooked Hillary for President" Please enlighten yourself and read the article. #Stronger without her

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Also is there a link or article showing he went against his tax attorney's advice?

Tokyo-engr, I guess you don't pay much attention to the news. Check out the NYT article - in lawyer-speak, they strongly cautioned him against his move, but he did it anyway. I have no idea about whether clawbacks are allowable at this point, but certainly, it is something Trump should be concerned about.

When Trump accuses an opponent of something, he has a history of being preemptive. His saying Hillary runs a danger of being a sitting president with serious legal problems means that he, himself - Trump - does.

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bass4funkNOV. 02, 2016 - 02:50PM JST

Trump made millions in business and Hillary made money through lying and deception....

How much did he lose compared to how much he made? And how much did people who got caught up in his scams lose? I'd readily accept a successful, Republican, conservative businessman over Hillary Clinton, but Trump? He can't even win an election without Julian Assange and James Comey stealing it for him.

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Strangerland: And one for raping a child.

Exposé of this trope as a plot by a former Jerry Springer producer was long ago reported by Beloved-of-the-Left news site The Guardian, linked below.

Snopes' page on this topic is actually newer than the Guardian page, which drew from multiple sites. Apparently Snopes' is OK with leaving one-sided stories up as long as they like the side that benefits from them. Certainly they had access to the Guardian page, and to Google hits that would have come up when they were researching their October update. But no mention of that in the Snopes page.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow

Rape lawsuits against Donald Trump linked to former TV producer - 7 July 2016

Norm Lubow, formerly a producer on the Jerry Springer show, apparently coordinated lawsuits accusing Donald Trump of raping a child in the 1990s

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

Last updated: 11 October 2016, Originally published: 23 June 2016

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-rape-lawsuit

Trump lawyers given court date over lawsuit alleging rape of 13-year-old - 12 October 2016

... A Guardian investigation this summer found that the lawsuit appeared to have been coordinated by a former producer on the Jerry Springer TV show who has been associated in the past with a range of disputed claims involving celebrities including OJ Simpson and Kurt Cobain. A publicist acting for “Jane Doe” also attempted to sell a video in which the woman describes her allegations against Trump to media outlets at a $1m price tag. ...

As an aside, want some more evidence for media collusion?

Search Google News for 'norm lubow', find 44 hits. Search Google News for 'trump child rape lawsuit', get 745,000 hits.

Remember, it's the Guardian investigating this connection, not some blog. And they reported on it in July and October. That info's been out there for a while.

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new conspiracy: Trump Can't Read. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LFkN7QGp2c

At least Clinton can handle the emails she's been given, Trump couldn't read one. How's that for National Security Risk?

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Tokyo-Engr, thanks. yes, odd getting down votes simply by asking a perfectly reasonable question. My crime was daring to ask it, I guess.

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Trump being illiterate may be a blessing in disguise, he can't launch the nukes because he wouldn't be able to read the codes

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Americans are so dissatisfied with their government, they are preparing to throw out the baby with the bath water, along with the tub, the soap, the towels, the spigot and the light fixtures. After Nov. 8, they'll be left sitting on a wet floor in the dark, muttering obscenities at each other.

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sf2k, obviously hillary cant handle her emails.

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The educational standards of Presidents should be checked before they run as candidates. Can Trump pass an English literacy test? A math test? A basic science test? Did his family buy off his Wharton degree?

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down voted for stating that hillary obviously cant handle her email. haha. go figure.

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"The educational standards of Presidents should be checked before they run as candidates. Can Trump pass an English literacy test? A math test? A basic science test?"

A GOP presidential candidate doing a science test? GOP voters would be furious if he passed it.

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Ive been reading comments in most potus news articles on jt for a while and i notice something very important. There are much more positive post for trump then there were before. I think the dnc corporate media brainwashing is starting to wear off.

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Outrider, she out duelled a handful of GOP committees at millions of dollars in losses, FBI investigations, and hundreds of thousands of emails. She can handle you fast enough old man.

if you can focus on a single topic for a second, the issue is can Trump read? No wonder he speaks at a grade 5 level. If Trump gets a report for President Eyes Only and can't read it that's a National Security problem right there.

Obama taught Constitutional Law, Clinton studied Law quite extensively in post graduate studies. This is how you get international trade and peace deals negotiated and signed. They can cut through the cruft

Trump has nothing, and now, has even less than nothing

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So, Trump is illiterate, has sexual fantasies of Putin, has disturbingly small body parts, and rapes children? I guess I can see why he is the pinnacle of Reb success and the hero of the lower quality

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dcog9065, all he needs is a truck and a dog named Scooter

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2f2k, oh shes devious enough and fast on her feet when it comes to duplicity. Im simply stating the obvious: that she manages her email badly. Any arguements with that??

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I think the CNN leak is going to hurt HC, she'll lose some of Bernie's supporters (unless Bernie 'minimises' the impact of the incident).

Independent or even GOP voters who had jumped ship may also reconsider their position and think as bad as DT is he's right, the system is rigged.

Will be interesting to see how Bernie handles it.

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Comey, the head of the FBI, was a registered Republican for most of his adult life. (Before he was appointed to lead the FBI, however, he claimed no party affiliation.) He was originally appointed US Attorney by Bush 43.

So what are you implying? Oh, so you think he's a big Trump fan now?

He was a vice president at Lockheed. Lockheed is one of the world's largest suppliers of military goods. Trump wants to EXPAND the US military.

As he should, I do hope and pray for that! Go Trump!

And one for raping a child.

Which will be thrown out of court.

How much did he lose compared to how much he made?

Dunno, I have No idea as to how he has, spent or sitting in.

And how much did people who got caught up in his scams lose?

Hillary is being investigated by the Feds, again and you come up with that mess? LMAO

I'd readily accept a successful, Republican, conservative businessman over Hillary Clinton, but Trump? He can't even win an election without Julian Assange and James Comey stealing it for him.

And Hillary can't win without cheating, bringing in illegals, bringing out the dead or rigging the votes. She sure as heck can't run on any policies except for Obama and that's already slowly killing her and the woman can't even get 1/3 of supporters compared to what Trump is getting. So if the Dems want to play dirty, I personally think Trump should take the gloves off and be equally as dirty. Dems started and now they are getting a taste of their own medicine slammed right back at them.

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Outrider.

Argument? Sure. Based on what? Hundreds of thousands of emails? Are you nuts?

You don't mean badly, you mean criminally. So, Nope. I've done probably 500,000 emails myself as an IT support rep. Cherry pick a few emails out of that and call it badly is incredibly stupid. But what would a GOPer know of anything in actual reality or requiring actual skills?

Committee after committee went after her again and again all for nothing all to discredit her run for President. Badly? Hardly. If anything she has shown just how badly desperate the GOP has become, and the millions wasted to challenge her

When she's president I bet she'll have a big laugh. And I'll have a big laugh too.

The world is laughing at the superior USA intellect. Turns out to be half trash

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er, I mean badly. no arguement abt the criminal part though - I agree.

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Strangerland: And one for raping a child.

Exposé of this trope as a plot by a former Jerry Springer producer was long ago reported by Beloved-of-the-Left news site The Guardian, linked below.

If there was nothing there, there wouldn't be a court case on the books over the matter. I think it's safe to say, that by the Republican standard of proof, he's a child-rape criminal.

new conspiracy: Trump Can't Read. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LFkN7QGp2c

It would explain why he doesn't use a teleprompter.

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Trump needs to win almost all the swing states to win the election. Sorry GOP, it ain't gonna happen.

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"And Hillary can't win without cheating, bringing in illegals, bringing out the dead or rigging the votes. She sure as heck can't run on any policies except for Obama and that's already slowly killing her and the woman can't even get 1/3 of supporters compared to what Trump is getting"

Are you now predicting Hillary will get around 20 million votes based on your pulled-out-of-your-backside figure of 67 million votes already in the bag for Trump?

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Either way, it's going to be a tough slog.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-01/must-read-day-–-clinton-presidency-going-be-miserable-slog

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Outrider, Ok not criminally. Yes, badly in the sense of her perspective on it I think she has apologized for during the debates? However she should have gone the extra explanation, but probably didn't want to look weak because she's just pumping and dumping thousands of emails she gets like most of us

Reminds me of when I sent an email to my managers to make suggestions on a technical problem with Cisco equipment, and I got a reply from three higher ups in the office. It wasn't until later that I realized my first name is the same as the chief manager that I could see their mistake. Badly, sure. Harmless? Yes. Could have been worse? Sure thing. It can't be helped.

The GOP has to show that it did actual harm to have a 1% "badly" rate or whatnot from the department. Committee after committee couldn't find it. She would be CC'd on a lot of things not necessarily hers that was sent as well. Filtering all that out would be nuts for someone like me who can read all that (headers, IPs etc). We can delve into the "Did the cheese sandwich on rye get delivered to Accounting or not? Speak up woman!" FBI investigation too. but that's not what any of this is about. This is called a canard.

USA is being played a week before the election. The real play here is that email is technical so those who don't know what mass work email entails in a job are really just bludgeoned over equating Clinton + Email = Bad. This is now called a dog whistle, a term I had not heard of before this year, but it fits. It's funny, and sad to see how easily played the USA public has become.

Media has indeed been Clinton focused only because the Trump comments have been beyond responsible, but notice that the dog whistle was instantly reported and not corroborated. Now it turns out she didn't send or receive her former aid Weiner mail, so it's just a show of how to dog whistle the media and a country before an election.

Who in the world benefits from a crippled USA? Russia has been well documented in this election with their interference and that should have been the barometer here through which new stories should have been filtered. Turns out the media are pretty dumb

It's the USA public that suffers as a result. Easily swayed without secondary analysis makes for a poor public discourse

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I, for one, DO NOT want to live in a "Trumptopia" where a leader is for himself, and himself only. I want to live in a country where my leader wakes up every morning and thinks of what SHE can do for ALL Americans. Not where the chosen few think that we keep ourselves "in the money" and it will all trickle down. I want my leader to start with the folks in the middle, and let THE WHOLE COUNTRY grow from the middle out, and the bottom up. Despite all the rhetoric and innuendo, there is ONLY ONE person who comes with the experience to do this. SHE is Hillary Rodham Clinton. I have heard many say they just don't like her. Well, you don't have to "like" her. She's probably not coming over for dinner ! BUT, if you love the USA, cast your vote for her. Pulling the lever for someone DOES NOT mean you approve of all their faults or misdeeds. It just means that you realize that the person is THE BEST for the job. It's HER time, guys. We're stronger together. Remember, 1/20/17 - "Madame President" !

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Outrider, which comes then to Trump and the notion that he may be a functional illiterate. To go through the valley of all his lowest of the low comments to find out he has really zero qualifications to be there is just the end. He can only work with the people around him. He can't ascertain information himself. That's not a leader

he had grate expectations after all ho ho!

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Cant imagine the World if Trump is POTUS maybe building that nuclear fallout shelter might not be a bad idea..The guy is thin skinned loses his temper at the drop of a hat which is what you dont want in the white house..His supporters are pretty much the same they cant hold their temperament which even shows through the posting on threads here...Let just hope that there are enough sensible Americans out there that he does not get near the presidency...

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Kurobune

Totally agree. Hillary will do fine. She will have learned a lot about how unhappy people are and can use that to her advantage during her presidency. The Bernie factor will also have influenced her. She's smart enough to get a lot of good stuff done. No doubt she'll be very careful with her emails too. Trump on the other hand is beyond redemption!

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If there was nothing there, there wouldn't be a court case on the books over the matter. I think it's safe to say, that by the Republican standard of proof, he's a child-rape criminal.

Maybe you can convict someone without due process where you come from, but in th US we have the presumption of innocence, we are entitled to a fair hearing and in order to bring a lawsuit you have to have concrete evidence and if you don't, then you have no case. Other than that, everything is just pure speculation. If the FBI had something on Trump about that, he'd be already in deep ****, but he's not.

Trump needs to win almost all the swing states to win the election. Sorry GOP, it ain't gonna happen.

Uhhhh...dunno, looking pretty tight there, I think he could pull it off, seems like it.

I, for one, DO NOT want to live in a "Trumptopia" where a leader is for himself, and himself only. I want to live in a country where my leader wakes up every morning and thinks of what SHE can do for ALL Americans.

Really, then you don't want Hillary at all, that woman thinks ONLY about herself. Don't believe me, ask the people of Haiti. In 35 years and judging by the Wikileaks, she didn't give a fig about anyone in America! And now her chickens have come home to roost!

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Northernlife....Make some room in that shelter. I'll bring the beer and cards. Oh I might as well pick up stacks of Magic Cards on the way, probably a good time to get into that

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A new poll of early voting in Florida shows nearly 30% of registered Republicans crossing over to vote for Hillary.

This is phenomenal! (and "interesting")

http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/2016-election-florida-polls-polling-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-winning-losing-early-voters-voting-republicans/

Here's the link. OP was selective in the information he/she chose to post. All polls taken together indicate a close race at this time. It can be equally said 21% of democrats voted for Trump.

"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it."

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pointofviewNOV. 02, 2016 - 08:47AM JST Clinton is the war candidate not Trump.

It's odd how people keep insisting this but no one can provide a shred of evidence to support it.

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I heard that a poll put Trump ahead of Clinton. But as he says, the polls are rigged, so it can't be believed.

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"Donald Trump could draw the United States into nuclear war, Hillary warns. Clinton would plunge the country into a constitutional crisis, he says."

... ...

Interesting menu choices. Customer: "Waiter?" Waiter: "Yes, Madame?" C: "How is the "Guerre de jour a la mode Trump" prepared?" W: "It is a matter of timing, Madame. The heat is slowly raised until the "sauce Trump" begins to boil, then it is poured over the plate in whatever fashion it pleases." C: "You mean the chef doesn't control it?" W: "Actually, Madame, the sauce is left to a sous-chef without much experience, but, do not despair. He will soon receive the most expert of guidance." C: "Oh! I'm so relieved." W: "Would you care to order it?" C: "I think not. I'm afraid that could give me... pardon my French, the shits." W: "Madame is mistaken. That is not French at all! May I suggest something more appropriate... "constitutional crisis" perhaps?" C: "Merci, Antoine. That's a winner!" W: "If it please Madame, I suggest the "Guerre jusqu'a l'eternite a la mode Hillary". Once you have tasted it you cannot get enough. Naturally, Madame, (whispered) there is a possibility - oh so slight - trust Antoine! - of a "constitutional crisis". But, please, Madame, you will still enjoy it today. Tomorrow? Who knows? Who cares?" C: "I'm sold! Live for today!"

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Many of us get so caught up in criticizing her toxic character, serial lying and the corruption that accompanies her that we forget to address her incompetence and lack of accomplishment. It is as stunning as her lack of character or integrity. Her tenure at State provides a preview of what she would do in the White House: turn a reputable institution into her own ATM machine, seed the staff with her toxic cronies, blur ethical lines, make consistently terrible policy decisions and prioritize her own needs over national security.

Her earlier resume is filled with other failures - no accomplishments as a Senator, couldn't get a job until Bill was elected AG, mediocre performance at the Rose Law Firm, and fired from the Watergate commission for lying.

Her resume is consistent - corruption, lies and failures with no offsetting success. Hold nose -Vote Trump.

Look for Hillary's attacks on Trump to get much uglier. She knows that if she doesn't win then it's certain jail time for her. She's fighting for survival like a wounded animal.

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kabukideath, well said.

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I heard that a poll put Trump ahead of Clinton. But as he says, the polls are rigged, so it can't be believed.

But according to Dems, there is No such thing as a rigged election, so I guess it should b believed.

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the polls are rigged

@bass responds: No such thing as a rigged election

Polls are different from elections. But then sound techies have never been known for their reading nor their writing skills, even though they may have claimed they have 12 (sometimes 15, other times 20, 30 and even 35) years experience working in some form of media. And it's clear when they pull numbers out of the air, e.g. 67 million, that they're flummoxed by basic arithmetic. But I've heard said they give good sound.

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I heard that a poll put Trump ahead of Clinton. But as he says, the polls are rigged, so it can't be believed.

Not only isn't Trump behind anywhere, he is also more honest. Even by MSM standards.

Trump Rated More Honest; Contest Stays a Dead Heat (POLL)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-rated-honest-contest-stays-dead-heat-poll/story?id=43225421

Hillary Clinton trails Donald Trump for the first time this campaign in who’s seen as more honest and trustworthy, a sign of further possible fallout from renewed FBI scrutiny of Clinton-related emails. A steady six in 10 likely voters disapprove of how she’s responded to the issue.

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Breaking: The LA Times tracking poll has Trump up 5.4 points over Clinton, Trump at 47.8% and Clinton at 42.4%. But what do they know? lol

Clinton better find some more women to say they've been grabbed by Trump. But wait, that hasn't been working so well... damn...

Oh my...

"SC Gov. Nikki Haley switches support to Trump over Clinton"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ET4jEJ9O4g

"Are Democrats in denial about Hillary's scandals? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFzFDLYxsk

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And so the GOP and its supporters sustain themselves.

The GOP cuts education costs, dumbing down plenty of people who will then listen to whoever is the loudest (Trump), subsequently voting for him, who in turn will then further cut down education costs. Repeat.

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After consideration, Trump's campaign has apparently rejected one of its only newspaper endorsements - simply because it's from the KKK. Wimps. Still, they'll keep the followers.

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James Carville turned into an exploding pumpkin on CNN on Monday.

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bass4funkNOV. 02, 2016 - 05:42PM JST

"How much did he lose compared to how much he made?"

Dunno, I have No idea as to how he has, spent or sitting in.

I didn't think you would concern yourself with minutiae like that

"And how much did people who got caught up in his scams lose?"

Hillary is being investigated by the Feds, again and you come up with that mess? LMAO

So you're claiming that your hero Trump is sqeaky clean, that he made his millions morally and honestly, and he's got nothing that needs to be investigated? That really would be something to laugh at.

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TRUMP JUMPS TO 6 POINT LEAD****

http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

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TRUMP JUMPS TO 6 POINT LEAD****

But according to him and his clanfolk, the polls are rigged. So it must be wrong. Hillary is in the lead.

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Bass: No, but the situation is very bad. What the majority of people in the country are wanting and waiting for is change a big change a d a president that will put the people first and not Wall Street or line their personal pockets with more money, use their political power of the office to bribe,swindle and commit crimes for the sake of personal gain and influence.

Are you stealing quotes from Bernie Sanders again?

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What the majority of people in the country are wanting and waiting for is change a big change a d a president that will put the people first and not Wall Street or line their personal pockets with more money

Then Clinton is the clear choice to make.

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Then Clinton is the clear choice to make.

"Crooked Hillary" is definitely the clear and wrong choice to make.

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Bass: What the majority of people in the country are wanting and waiting for is change a big change a d a president that will put the people first and not Wall Street

Bernie: This is a historic and pivotal moment in American history. Now is the time for our next president to rally the American people against Wall Street and corporate greed and stand up vigorously for the declining middle class.

Bass: or line their personal pockets with more money, use their political power of the office to bribe,swindle and commit crimes for the sake of personal gain and influence

Bernie: Right now you have the Koch brothers and their friends, billionaires, spending hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in Pennsylvania, in New Hampshire, in Ohio, in every battleground state. That’s not rhetoric. That is reality.

Seems like a match to me.

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When Hillary is arrested this weekend or Monday at the latest, it will be essentially a 3-way race between Trump, Johnson and Stein, as Tim Kaine won't stand a chance.

Here's something positive to watch.

"Donald Trump Delivers Remarks in Valley Forge, PA 11/1/16"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1BC9ueVwdM

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Trump is bad for Japan and Bad for Asia.

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NO FLY ZONE!

how do you hillary people think that is going to work out?!

Do you really think Russia will just let that happen?

NO FLY ZONE = WORLD WAR 3.

Is that clear enough?!

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@Chop Chop, Don the Con is bad for THE WORLD ! He is constantly denigrating, criticizing, and just plain "bad-mouthing" the USA. Make America great again ? Yeah, right ! By degrading African-Americans, women, Hispanics, the disabled, and POWs? No, thank you. America has ALWAYS been great, and we will remain so in the eyes of the world by electing HRC as our first female President. On Nov. 8, we need to stage an intervention and show him what we REALLY think of his antics. It's her time, guys. We're stronger together. 1/20/17 - "Madame President !

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@KUROBUNE

Yeah! I'm sure the Russians will be really impressed with Clintons

NO FLY ZONE!

HOW DO YOU THINK THAT WILL END?!

Have a daughter? Great! Clinton wants to include women in the national draft!

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Clinton, Trump warn of dire consequences if rival wins

-- and they are both right! But it is more than dire...

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Polls are different from elections. But then sound techies have never been known for their reading nor their writing skills, even though they may have claimed they have 12 (sometimes 15, other times 20, 30 and even 35) years experience working in some form of media.

Another pathetic attempt at a tried ad hominem attack??? Keep trying.

And it's clear when they pull numbers out of the air, e.g. 67 million, that they're flummoxed by basic arithmetic. But I've heard said they give good sound.

Yawn....Ok, so back to reality. Tell us all how you really feel that Hillary is sinking faster than the Titanic. She's trying really hard to drive the Russian narrative and to deflect all of this away from her as much as she can.

Then Clinton is the clear choice to make.

If you're smoking crack, perhaps.

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SerranoNOV. 02, 2016 - 11:42PM JST When Hillary is arrested this weekend or Monday at the latest, it will be essentially a 3-way race between Trump, Johnson and Stein, as Tim Kaine won't stand a chance.

The above is the result of the brain having prolonged proximity to aluminium. Sean Hannity also got bitten by his own bullshit today:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/01/media/sean-hannity-michelle-obama-hillary-clinton-fake-news/index.html

It just proves how numb the skulls are of the garden variety Republican these days. Not content with being an official hate group the GOP is now also an accomplished raving bunch of conspiracy nuts.

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RealClearPolitics poll aggregation ... Trump rising, Clinton falling ...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html

RCP Electoral map (with tossups): 246 Clinton, 112 tossups, 180 Trump

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

Electoral map with no tossups: 273 Clinton, 265 Trump

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The whole world is already expecting dire consequences if either wins.

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How is Hillary not up by 50% already? Oh yeah - hundreds of classified emails on her own private email servers. If she somehow gets elected I anxiously await the impeachment trial in the Senate. She better hope that Republicans are not the majority in the Senate after this election or the 2018 midterms. No Justice, No Peace!

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Conspiracies? Check. Emails? Check. Wikileaks? Check. Bigotry? Check.

Policy? Ehh. Later.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

God help us all!!!

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Does the whole world want a woman with the experience that HRC comes with or a thinks-he-knows-it-all maverick that can be provoked by a tweet ! GO GET 'EM HILLARY ! HRC 2016 ! ! !

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Serrano: Make America Venezuela

Hillary's not going to do that. She's a Goldman Sachs liberal, not a Bernie Sanders liberal.

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SerranoNOV. 03, 2016 - 07:54AM JST

Drain the swamp and make America great again

Pour in more water and flood the whole country, more likely.

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Conspiracies? Check. Emails? Check. Wikileaks? Check. Bigotry? Check.

Well yes - and Hillary and Obama and running around the country yelling "THE KLAN, THE KLAN!!!".

0 ( +0 / -0 )

I could care less about tax returns, especially if they handled it legally. Leaking and trying to delete classified information?? That is something completely different and irresponsible.

There is obviously a shortage of true leaders in this world and in high positions. Unfortunately it is something many that may have qualities for tend to avoid because they don't want control or power. But if I had to chose between the two, I would go with him. Despite what he says and did, he seems more down to earth and sincere. Just needs to fix a few tweaks.

Her on the other hand, I feel that whole administration just wants to legalise drugs, blur gender lines, and among other things, just creep the hell out of people with her vice president. I don't care if you have over half of Hollywood on your side, can't influence me. Hollywood is screwed up anyways with of the junkies. Please drain the swamp already.

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The FBI has found nothing prosecutable in previous e-mails, and will find nothing prosecutable in current e-mails. In short, Hillary has already won. Trump is a disgusting man, and HIllary is just boring. Hooray for boring President Hillary and her first laddy, Bill, who is never boring.

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