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COVID protests escalate in Guangzhou as China lockdown anger boils

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By Brenda Goh and Martin Quin Pollard

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Welcome to dictatorship.

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China will resolutely crack down on "the infiltration and sabotage activities of hostile forces".

‘those hostile forces, are your own citizens? Think the hostile forces are the CCP and its security forces.

15 ( +18 / -3 )

I never realized there were so many so-called 'anti-vaxxers' in China that didn't believe in the Government narrative. Hmmmm. Good luck to them.

-2 ( +10 / -12 )

All the people who fully supported lockdowns in their own countries and actively supported their own neighbors losing their jobs and freedoms? They are super concerned about these China lockdowns and want them lifted. no lockdowns!

And they cant seem to figure out why their feelings have changed.

-12 ( +10 / -22 )

Here is a game, which person said both of these things and why are they so different?

then/ in own country- "If you join the protest because you are tired of COVID, you now need to understand that you are breaking the law"

Now/for another country- "Everyone in China should be allowed to protest. We will continue to ensure that China knows we will stand for human rights and with people who are expressing themselves".

Would almost make you think none of it was ever even about COVID at all in either situation.

-11 ( +11 / -22 )

Blacklabel Today  02:57 pm JST

All the people who fully supported lockdowns in their own countries and actively supported their own neighbors losing their jobs and freedoms? They are super concerned about these China lockdowns and want them lifted. no lockdowns! 

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Yeah, funny how the people doing the same in the West were smeared as "far-right" and "conspiracy theorists" by so many of the people cheering on the protestors in China right now.

And they cant seem to figure out why their feelings have changed.

It's not about the principle, it's about the side. They want to appear concerned about oppressed people abroad, but are quite happy for people they disagree with at home to be locked down, arrested, shot at, censored and the like.

Blacklabel, at least we can cheer on the protestors in China with a clear conscience.

-12 ( +9 / -21 )

Enough with the covid bunk full stop!

-10 ( +7 / -17 )

Blacklabel

All the people who fully supported lockdowns in their own countries and actively supported their own neighbors losing their jobs and freedoms? They are super concerned about these China lockdowns and want them lifted. no lockdowns!

And they cant seem to figure out why their feelings have changed.

You seem to think this is absolute. Many people supported lockdowns in their own country because it was a good thing and saved lives. In those same countries, when vaccines were readily available, better therapeutics, and more transmissible variants, those countries pivoted to more sensible approaches to public health.

China has done none of that.

5 ( +17 / -12 )

In China, they are no lockdowns. They are prison-like lockins. How many millions have died from covid?

13 ( +17 / -4 )

And people think we should emulate the Chinese for their stolen high-tech advancements, no thanks. Everyone deserves to be free

-5 ( +9 / -14 )

I never realized there were so many so-called 'anti-vaxxers' in China that didn't believe in the Government narrative. Hmmmm. Good luck to them.

Antivaxxers are the people that irrationally reject the scientific evidence of vaccines safety and efficacy, there is nothing scientific on the zero covid policy, just a political decision from the CCP to go against the science and control the population with counterproductive measures instead of focusing on vaccination and science-based recommendations.

All the people who fully supported lockdowns in their own countries and actively supported their own neighbors losing their jobs and freedoms? They are super concerned about these China lockdowns and want them lifted. no lockdowns!

2020 is not the same as 2022, at the time when vaccines and effective treatments were not available and the strains much more susceptible for control lockdowns were the least damaging option. Right now they are neither effective nor necessary, so they are not justified anymore. This is like saying people that supported the need for toxic chemotherapy against cancer are hypocrites for not supporting it when used against a mild headache.

Would almost make you think none of it was ever even about COVID at all in either situation.

Protesting against rational, well supported by evidence measures that reduce the risk for the population and protesting against irrational measures being pushed by an autocratic goverment against the evidence of much more efficient options is not the same. Misrepresenting both things as equivalent has not merit.

Yeah, funny how the people doing the same in the West were smeared as "far-right" and "conspiracy theorists" by so many of the people cheering on the protestors in China right now.

There is nothing funny about supporting evidence based decisions and rejecting evidence disproved impositions with obviously different priorities instead of public health. This misrepresentation completely depends on ignoring the professional opinion of the medical and scientific communities of the world that only support one of the two situations.

If I had said all of that last year, I would be called a CCP supporting, alt-right conspiracy theorist.

Are you surprised that the situation changed that much over a year thanks to effective measures and a very different prevalent variant? this would be a consequence of a systematic rejection of science.

Glad to know that all of that was just a disingenuous attack on me based on my political affiliation.

Unless you had a time machine the criticism of a position that went against the reality of last year (but not right now) would still be justified.

0 ( +12 / -12 )

Lockdown means isolation.

Isolation from your family, your friends, isolation for your children to have a full education, the very basic life you took for granted is just four walls.

Most importantly, isolation from the fundamental human right to earn a living to feed your family

I don’t believe or buy it for a second the Government of China would take such an action unless they have cause.

Trust, the Government of China is one of the least trustworthy dictatorships globally.

The disappearances, the constant surveillance, the disrespect for basic human rights.

The list is endless.

Is there the probability that a new strain of the virus has risen its head?

If so, would the Government of China conceal this, and attempt to lockdown this not only from its people also the global community?

China would not put the med to long term future of it economy at stake without a reason.  

I feel a hedging strategy no matter what the cost.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

are the COVID lockdowns in China "saving lives"?

yes or no? ]

if so, then they must be maintained. If not, then they can be lifted.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

are the COVID lockdowns in China "saving lives"?

yes or no? ]

"Yes or no" questions, the last resort of people that understand a correct answer disprove what they want to say. Is like asking "have you stopped misrepresenting the facts on covid? yes or no"

The covid lockdowns may be saving lives but at an unacceptable cost compared with the best standards recognized by international authorities. So no, saving lives while costing more lives is a terribly poor argument to say they should be maintained.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

The covid lockdowns may be saving lives but at an unacceptable cost compared with the best standards recognized by international authorities. So no, saving lives while costing more lives is a terribly poor argument to say they should be maintained.

Obviously the experts disagree with your opinion, which is not based on any verifiable fact.

And it is absurd and illogical to say that saving lives costs more lives when that is not even close to the point of grounded reality.

Deaths related to Covid in China do not come close to the over 1 million deaths incurred by the US for example, and China's death rate is miniscule compared to New Zealand's and Australia's, and any argument to the contrary denies basic statistical and scientific dsts.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

The lockdown is just the tip of the iceberg for downtrodden Chinese citizens, just a catalyst. They have had enough of the authoritarianism, denial of democracy, suppression of freedom, endless surveillance and being treated with hatred by the unelected, rich scum at the top of the CCP.

All power to the brave protesters. Seek out and target ALL police and ALL public servants wherever they are. Send these despicable traitors the message that their time is up.

It won't happen within weeks, but in time millions of officials, police and government workers are going to be put up against a wall. What a beautiful day that will be.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

In a country with more than 1.4 billion people, a few hundred or a few thousand at most are doing this protest… big deal! The media makes it sound like the world has ended! There are bigger issues facing us back in our own country so why be bothered what’s up with the Chinese !!

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

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