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David Bowie urges Scotland to stay in UK ahead of referendum

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David Bowie, a man whose political views have often been....colourful. Thanks all the same, Dave.

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Is he a Scot? He should just stick to singing.

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Is he a Scot?

That's relevant because why?

If someone was advising your wife to divorce you, would you consider the discussion nothing to do with you because you're not female?

The Scots should stay, for their sakes and ours. Divided we fall, and all that.

(disclaimer - I'm part Scots. Probably most people in the UK are to greater or lesser degree.)

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If I had the vote I would use it for yes.

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Could be some silver linings in this for England if Scotland do go. For one it will decrease the chances of Labour getting in again, they almost ruined the country last time.

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" Is he a Scot? That's relevant because why?"

@cleo, it's relevant because the choice belongs to the Scots. Does Bowie have skin in the game? And whether to stay in a marriage is a free choice, like the butterfly saying goes. If not free to go, then a slave.

Is there risk in going independent? Certainly. Are you saying England can't survive without Scotland? I don't think so. Independence is better.

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I'm not sure Bowie passed through his fascist phase unscathed - he still gives me the creeps. The chance to kick out the Tories from Scotland would be tempting given the Tory contempt for and abuse of that country. Is it just one Tory MP for the whole of Scotland? The vast majority of Scots would not be sorry to see the back of the Conservative Party. I've read a few half-serious articles wondering if we should draw a line from the Severn to the Wash and hold a referendum on the possibility of a new country north of that line or even a union of that state with the Scots and the Welsh. Half-serious maybe, but if you offered me a chance to be free of a government which has given up trying to get votes in my area and therefore cares nothing about it, or another party which does little more knowing it can count on your vote anyway, maybe I'd agree something new is needed.

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That's relevant because why?

Then you say "I'm part Scots." What?

Anyways, if the Scots vote for independence, they should choose the pound as their currency.

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Jean: Is there risk in going independent? Certainly. Are you saying England can't survive without Scotland? I don't think so. Independence is better.

Are you a Scot?

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Does Bowie have skin in the game?

You mean is he a player? If he's British, which he is, then yes he does have skin in the game, the game being an attempt to break off a part of his country.

And whether to stay in a marriage is a free choice

Yes it is, and there are two in the marriage to start off with. If one partner mutters about leaving, the other partner has no right to try and persuade him/her to stay? Remind him/her of the good times? Promise to try harder/be nicer/work harder in the future? Are you saying that England is a drunken sot of a spouse that no one in their right mind would want to live with?

Are you saying England can't survive without Scotland?

No, not at all. I'm saying two people in a marriage should at least pay heed to advice from family and friends who have their best interests at heart before both partners take off their rings and chuck them at each other.

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'England is a drunken sot of a spouse that no one in their right mind would want to live with?' Remember what the English government did to Scotland in the 80s. Decimation of their industries while North Sea oil and gas was being appropriated and use of the Scots as guinea pigs for the disgraceful poll tax. England wasn't a drunken sod of a husband, it was a stone-cold sober serial abuser.

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Anyways, if the Scots vote for independence, they should choose the pound as their currency.

They don't get to "choose", they can try to negotiate some sort of currency union using the pound, or they could apply to join the eurozone - if/when they join the EU, which might not be as quick as people think. Countries that have fought quite hard to join the EU might not like an independent Scotland being fast-tracked.

For more information about the potential disasters of independent countries sharing a currency, please refer to The Euro.

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So let me get this straight (no pun intended, Major Tom): The artist who changed his stage name so he wouldn't be mistaken for a "Monkee"...feels so passionately about this issue that...

A. He tacked on a measly five-word aside "Stay with us, Scots!" to an otherwise pro-forma acceptance speech for his Best British Male Solo Artist award...

B. ...that he didn't even care about enough to actually accept in person...

C: ...but rather left in the capable hands of the equally passionate "supermodel" Kate Moss?

Be swayed, Scots! Be very swayed!

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" Are you saying that England is a drunken sot of a spouse that no one in their right mind would want to live with?"

Ok, that's a fair assessment. It certainly wouldn't be the first time England was given the heave-ho, now would it?

As far as Bowie is concerned, his appeal to Scots was ... lame. Feeble, even.

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@BNlightened

Agree entirely.

It's enough to make you wonder if he's in the pay of the indepentistas.... ; )

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The independence issue is very interesting from the other side of the border watching the yes campaign completely ignore the reality of the situationif it actually succeeds in getting a yes vote . They have already been told there will be no currency union so they will need to have their own sorted out also as has been pointed out it may take a lot longer for them to be able to join the EU if at all than they are being led to believe . And just for the record the vote is a purely scottish affair and l wish them good luck with it, as an english it has nothing to do with us.

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North sea oil and friggin' great whisky - I think Scotland can go it along.........

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Besides the oblivious like malt Scotch, beef, water, tourism, oil, gas, nuclear power plants, fish, salmon, there's something the English are determined to hold on to.

The trident missile nuclear submarine base which is the whole of their nuclear weapons program. They consider it to be the only safe location for it and can't be moved to Wales or England.

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Both Scotland and the rest of the UK will be diminished by a Scottish vote for independance and the UK still being a relatively free country any citzen can express an opinion. Given they aere to be given a vote south of the border I have a feeling the Scots wouldnt get a choice.

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