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Death toll nears 6 million as pandemic enters its 3rd year

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Express Sister

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

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When you say the vaccine is safe, does that mean there are no reports of or examples of negative side effects or death after having the medical procedure?

This is not what safe means in medicine, there is exactly zero medical procedures or interventions that will not have reports of negative side effects, according to this arbitrary and inadequate requirement nothing ever in medicine would be "safe".

In reality safe is something that can validly be used for something that importantly reduces the risks for the health and life of a person, even if there is always the risk of negative events being reported after using it.

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Short referred to side effects. Yes there are side effects and deaths associated with the vaccines. I’m not anti vaccine, just stating the truth that the procedure is not risk free. It’s a scientific fact

Prove it.

And no, Children's Health Defense is not a reliable source.

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We have not entered the third year...lol.

You are funny. 816 divided by 365...lol is not 3 years....lol...

No-one said the third year is over. We have entered the third year.

If you spend 366 days in a relationship, the first year is over, and you have entered the second year.

Unless you started dating on a leap year.

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Express

Short referred to side effects. Yes there are side effects and deaths associated with the vaccines. I’m not anti vaccine, just stating the truth that the procedure is not risk free. It’s a scientific fact

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When you say the vaccine is safe, does that mean there are no reports of or examples of negative side effects or death after having the medical procedure?

I've had negative side effects after the vaccine. My arm hurt, I had a headache, and for 24 hours or so I felt like trash.

You know what didn't happen to me?

Death from Covid.

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"No, it's not. You can clearly see almost everywhere where there are vaccinated people that they make up a proportionate amount of deaths. The truth is let out in the article who is actually most affected..."

And according to the CDC, that "proportionate amount" adds up to much less than 1 %.

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Many here claiming up to 10X more deaths actually occurred by experts. Can they show peer reviewed papers to back up this claim or even better show which countries had a much larger amount of deaths in 2020 or 2021 than would be elected from the figures nations provide?

I have yet to see any evidence to support this.

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Death toll nears 6 million as pandemic enters its 3rd year:

This is the lowest possible official estimate.

Some respectable institutions have put it up to 4 times higher, on the basis that not all deaths are properly reported from many countries, & most data might be tampered..

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Express Sister

When you say the vaccine is safe, does that mean there are no reports of or examples of negative side effects or death after having the medical procedure?

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The Hong Kong numbers are surprising. It makes me question the actual situation in Japan. This is my personal thought.

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No, it's not. You can clearly see almost everywhere where there are vaccinated people that they make up a proportionate amount of deaths. The truth is let out in the article who is actually most affected...

Not at all, when comparing to the numbers before vaccinating it is quite obvious that vaccination importantly decreases the risk for the most vulnerable population, so much that complications and deaths are now at levels comparable with the young and healthy, this reduction is of course not observed in unvaccinated people that keep getting hospitalized and dying as two years ago.

So older and sedentary (i.e. unhealthy) people.

Most of whom have still many years to live if not infected, lack of empathy is a terrible argument to say their deaths are not as important as anybody else's.

Which experts? How did they calculate that? Too opaque, the public deserves to know, all of it

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm5154

If you can't put the seconds necessary to find out this very easy to get information, who is going to believe you are going to put the months of training and education that is minimally necessary to understand a scientific report at least enough to detect if it has any problem? Not being willing to find information that disproves your beliefs is not the same as things not being transparent.

the pandemic status in the USA is subject to change. based on election polling and the need for fear of in person voting.

Politics have never changed the fact that unvaccinated people are at a much higher risk of complications and deaths compared with vaccinated people of the same demographics. This has been always constant.

a lot of experts are saying the death toll FROM corona is much less. If you die within a month of neing tested positive it is counted as corona death within the western standars

That is false, mostly because that statistical data is only used for quick reporting, not for the actual studies that look for the importance of the pandemic in the hospitalizations and deaths, pretending this is how the scientists are counting COVID deaths for their studies is plain disinformation.

Was this virus manufactured in a laboratory or was it a natural phenomenon? We still don’t know, do we?

According to the best available science the natural introduction is astronomically much more likely to be the real explanation, the same as every other infectious diseases of importance in humans and the many other coronaviruses that have entered the human population, even after 2020 (but that fortunately have not been able to cause pandemics).

Reports supporting the lab-origin theory are ignored

No, reports using false or misrepresented information are ignored, as they should, because they do not constitute evidence but a very transparent attempt to mislead people. Nobody has put an actual argument that even indicates a laboratory origin as a realistic possibility (much less likely) that is not easily contradicted by the available evidence.

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backed up by facts of what is withheld and what is lied about that we later find the truth

If any 'facts' were cited in what you posted I must have missed them.

Given the grave dangers of war and disease today, which do need drastic social reform, the conservative static is really unnecessary.

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I think its quite clear what I said and meant. backed up by facts of what is withheld and what is lied about that we later find the truth.

Someone doesnt understand what "word salad" means?

although its not clear to me why the problems of today would demand better "B"?

better Biden? better Breakfast? hmmm.....letter salad?

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*yes, the vigor with which the liberal establishment and their media demands us believe something is or isnt true- is usually the trigger that it is or isnt true. *

Nice word salad.

The history of media from McLuhan on does not point to a 'liberal' (neo liberal) agenda.

Update your talking points.

The problems facing the world today demand better B.

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it was released that the "safe and effective" Pfizer vaccine actually has 9 pages of side effects.

thankfully a judge didnt buy that it would take 75 years to release all this data because of "limited resources".

When Pfizer applied for FDA approval, they were aware of almost 158,000 adverse events. This really does not paint them in a favorable light. And now, a 38-page report features an appendix with a list that says Pfizer’s COVID vaccine has 1,291 side effects.

But no one cares by now, they just dropped the vaccine and mask mandates and pretend none of this ever happened. moving on to another shiny object to distract.

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yes, the vigor with which the liberal establishment and their media demands us believe something is or isnt true- is usually the trigger that it is or isnt true. Whenever only one result is even allowed to be discussed and the other side is deleted/censored, there you go.

So yeah we "dont know" (and never will). But at the same time, we know.

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Was this virus manufactured in a laboratory or was it a natural phenomenon? We still don’t know, do we?

We don't. But what we do know is that the narrative brought to us by governments and the media is that it was not created in lab. Reports supporting the lab-origin theory are ignored, suppressed or picked apart with everything they have. Reports indicating that it originated naturally and outside the lab are widely promoted and not even given minimal journalistic scrutiny, no matter how weak on facts they may be.

One doesn't need to be a scientist or expert to know that tells us something.

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Was this virus manufactured in a laboratory or was it a natural phenomenon? We still don’t know, do we?

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No, a lot of experts are saying the death toll FROM corona is much less. If you die within a month of neing tested positive it is counted as corona death within the western standars. 25% of”corona” patients are hospitaized for something else but test positive so counted as “corona”.

That's BS, The health ministers of India and Brazil alone say that the death toll is 10x what is being reported in their countries. The fact is that the death toll is higher than is being reported

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@theResident..LOL

We have not entered the third year...lol.

You are funny. 816 divided by 365...lol is not 3 years....lol...

Night school!!!!! So funny!

Just FYI you "enter" the third year when the second year is over, not when 3 years have passed. So we entered the third year of this back in December.

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@theResident..LOL

We have not entered the third year...lol.

You are funny. 816 divided by 365...lol is not 3 years....lol...

Night school!!!!! So funny!

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@littlebear: I know a good night school where you can brush up on your math. We have indeed 'entered' the third year.

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More denial from the usual posters. More denial that vaccines have saved many,many lives if they have not stemmed infection rates. More ranting that its a all a political conspiracy etc etc. How do you people sleep at night? Doesn't your paranoia keep you awake?

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It’s considered over by many media. The US is now over 950,000 deaths. Since only about 1,600 are dying per week and more people are dying by gunfire than car crashes for the first time in history, Covid isn’t as compelling for ratings.

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The official global death toll from COVID-19 is on the verge of eclipsing 6 million — underscoring that the pandemic, now entering its third year, is far from over.

II have chosen to believe the globe's medical scientists, who've long used their research skills to verify the virus was dangerous,

I have ignored the bleatings of internet influencers, failed politicians, and deceitful preachers and keyboard warriors (paid and volunteer) claiming it's just a plot to take away your freedoms in their ongoing attempts to pit people in democracies against each other to further weaken democratic nations using the ages old divide and conquer tactics of demagogues throughout history.

How's the heard immunity thing going? Or are y'all now saying we just need to get more people sick before herd immunity can do its thing?

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This headline is inaccurate and should be edited. The fact that it got put out there is just abysmal.

The fact is it was December 12, 2019 when the first cases were reported in Wuhan. It has been 816 days since that date, which is 2.2years. We have not entered a "third-year" yet!

This headline is premature.

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Aly RustomToday  08:20 am JST

a lot of experts are saying the global death toll is around 10x higher than reported. IF that is true, we are looking at 50-60 million deaths worldwide. Similar to the Spanish Flu

No, a lot of experts are saying the death toll FROM corona is much less. If you die within a month of neing tested positive it is counted as corona death within the western standars. 25% of”corona” patients are hospitaized for something else but test positive so counted as “corona”.

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Someone clearly didn't get the memo that we're shifting the narrative to "Russia!!"

And still no punishment for China who released this onto the world. Instead they host the Olympics.

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And despite its wealth and vaccine availability, the United States is nearing 1 million reported deaths on its own.

yet the only criticism is of the guy who was in charge for the first 1/3rd of those that happened before a vaccine could be created.

the pandemic status in the USA is subject to change. based on election polling and the need for fear of in person voting.

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India has recorded more than 500,000 deaths, but experts believe its true toll is in the millions,

a lot of experts are saying the global death toll is around 10x higher than reported. IF that is true, we are looking at 50-60 million deaths worldwide. Similar to the Spanish Flu

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The disturbing reality of the pictures on the front page bring into stark relief the all too many individuals who in the past year continue to deny for selfish, stubborn reasons the realities of pandemic disease and nationalist aggression.

A majority of people in the U.S. are maskless as we speak even with omicron running rampant. This is occurring in both Democrat and Republican-run cities and states.

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The disturbing reality of the pictures on the front page bring into stark relief the all too many individuals who in the past year continue to deny for selfish, stubborn reasons the realities of pandemic disease and nationalist aggression.

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