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© 2024 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Harris and Trump detail their starkly different visions in tense, high-stakes debate
By ZEKE MILLER, MICHELLE L. PRICE, JILL COLVIN and JOSH BOAK PHILADELPHIA©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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The Ripper!
Harris' positions have changed so much in the last 30 minutes.
Norm
I’m not watching. Any clear examples?
Zaphod
Watching it now live. Clearly it is another "get Trump" setup. Harris obviously knows all the questions and has her talking points ready, and the so-called moderators are quick to question Trump when they see an opening. And with Trumps tendency to ramble, he often gives them chances. Also, obviously her debate training team has weaned Harris off her habit of uncontrolled cackling, and camera angle makes her look bigger then she is. All clearly set up to favour one side.... no surprise really, but I doubt it changes much in terms of the result.
Strangerland
She got under Trump's skin, and he's rambling and yelling now. This is great! I love it.
She's presented plenty of policy. He's talked about how much stuff sucks.
Oh, and he got in his point in that migrants are eating your cats and dogs.
wallace
Lies pouring out of Trump like a waterfall.
Trump will deport 11 million immigrants. How? Will he go house-to-house?
Strangerland
This is great, she's playing him like a guitar.
TaiwanIsNotChina
DT: January 6th???? IMMIGRATION!!!! POOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
bass4funk
Harris
Logistics that can be worked out, when you have a DOJ and the Senate, you have a lot of tools at your disposal.
deanzaZZR
Keep the commentary going. I'm not watching it but do plan to listen to the 538 Politics podcast recap that I expect will drop soon after the debate ends.
Zaphod
wallace
No need for gaslighting. Take away the incentives to come and deport the the criminal offenders. The problem will solve itself. Not rocket science.
wallace
Trump needs Orban of Hungary to prop him up. According to Trump, Biden hates Harris.
Zaphod
Oh my... Harris was about to bring up the debunked "Fine people hoax", and the stream suddenly paused. Did NBC just interfere by preventing their favourite to blurt out an obvious lie?
lincolnman
Trump is melting down...
Harris really triggered him when he said other world leaders openly laugh at him...
He then went on a 1 minute rant about how "Viktor Orban" - a Putin-lite - loves him...
He's tanking... You know McConnell and Johnson are franticly dialing Nikki Haley's number now...
bass4funk
Well, some interesting news coming out...
*ABC producers are considering unmuting the microphones of Trump and Harris if something "really newsworthy" or editorially significant happens, "CNN media correspondent Brian Stelter reported from the spin room.*
Hmmm, that was not in the contract, so ABC can breach their contract at any given time? Some would call that sly, sneaky, and dishonest.
Bad Haircut
LOL. She plays like a hack.
Strangerland
This is even more enjoyable than I thought it would be. He's losing it. He just tried to shush her! I love it!
She's decimating him.
wallace
According to Trump, if he had been president, Putin would not have invaded Ukraine and Hamas would not have attacked Israel.
lincolnman
It isn't even finished yet and Team Red is already making up fairy tale excuses...
Really, can't they think up any new ones other than "it's rigged!"....
Now the big question - who's going to tell Trump it's time to throw in the orange towel?
TaiwanIsNotChina
This is good stuff: DT is about as likeable as a flaming bag of poo.
Bad Haircut
Harris has friendly moderators and still can't put together anything coherent.
Cephus
"Harris repeatedly shook her head derisively as Trump spoke, occasionally staring at him with a hand on her chin, while Trump seemed to avoid looking toward the Democrat. Trump hewed closely to his rally talking points and familiar attacks."
Whoever coached her to make faces while shaking her head is a moron because doing that just makes someone look she or he is not serious, but plain petty, what a silly thing to do.
TaiwanIsNotChina
On what planet do you think you will have 60 votes in the Senate and even the Trump lickspittles on the Supreme Court don't have some basic shred of understanding of the law?
TaiwanIsNotChina
I'm sure scowling and smiling at indictments and authoritarian behavior will win over the suburban mom.
Hawk
Get better internet. Mine was fine.
Strangerland
Haha now hes sounding like some of the posters on here "I'm clearly winning this debate".
If that were true, it would be apparent. His being angry and frustrating isn't exuding the confidence of someone who is winning the debate.
Strangerland
I call it wonderful! It's made this debate much better.
Maybe they should debate on Fox next.
wallace
Trump's policies align with Project 2025 something he denies.
Strangerland
Basically this has been Trump sputtering about how the world sucks, and Kamala putting out solutions.
He even tried to get her to end the debate early! "I want to end this right now because we're wasting time"
Ouch.
Asiaman7
“In Springfield, they [migrants] are eating the dogs” — Donald Trump
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Kudos to ABC’s David Muir for setting the record straight by clarifying that this claim is untrue.
Bad Haircut
Nothing wrong with the feed from my end, but Harris probably wished it had frozen given the string of lies she blurted out.
bass4funk
I already answered that question, and let me add to that: if the Dems want to keep these people in their sanctuary cities, that is on them, good luck to them. Still waiting for the woman to talk about policies and not regurgitated lib platitudes.
Ken
I called it! I knew he was going to try to pit immigrants against African Americans and Hispanics. And him talking about immigrants eating their neighbors dogs and cats sounds like he read some make believe mess from Elon's twitter account to use as his talking points
bass4funk
Kudos to ABC’s David Muir for setting the record straight by clarifying that this claim is untrue.
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1833116060905525332
Zaphod
There was poll about how often the ABC "moderators" would interrupt Trump, where the majority of people conglomerated on about about 7. Right now, halfway in, we are already at 10. No surprise....
TaiwanIsNotChina
Harris just demolished the Disgrace over Ukraine.
lincolnman
I have to say, while I'm a strong Dem, in 2020, I would have preferred Biden to have picked Gretchen Whitmer as his VP rather than Harris...
But I've been impressed with her since then, and tonight, she is showing what a tough Prosecutor she was as she slices and dices Trump into little orange pieces...
Dems made the absolute right choice when they selected her as the nominee - and nothing but praise for Biden who so graciously stepped aside...
Blue Wave this Nov...
Bad Haircut
She's unburdened by facts and truth. How wonderful to be so free!
TaiwanIsNotChina
DJT says millions were killed in Ukraine. Suddenly our apologists have to explain how this isn't the worst war in the past 70 years.
stormcrow
Harris: (quietly listening to Trump speak)
Trump: (suddenly) Excuse me, but I'm talking. I'm talking. Sound familiar?
Harris: (WTF?!) I didn't say anything.
Was Trump hearing things?
Hawk
Good. We're not here to listen to lies and rambling.
Bad Haircut
Trump obliterated her on Afghanistan, and will do the same on race.
wallace
Trump is spitting out his dentures.
Bad Haircut
The Clintons started the birther nonsense.
bass4funk
I'm not sure what this woman is trying to do, I thought this debate was about policy and now it's let's attack Trump? Thank God he is keeping the key points and keeping this.....woman in check.
finally rich
"Jan 6 was worse than Sep 11" - Kamala Harris
justasking
The only behind getting spanked by now is Trump’s.
finally rich
The moderators are letting the democrat get away with murder in this debate.
She’s repeating every debunked left-wing talking point from the last decade.
But moderators always make sure to make bogus “corrections” for Trump after he makes a point.
The fake news is the enemy.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Trump got demolished on Ukraine, Race, Civility, Obamacare, and we're not even done yet.
finally rich
Kamala Harris has never been this well spoken in her life
She's never understood camera angles this well either
You're telling me none of these questions made their way to her campaign this last week?
TaiwanIsNotChina
Yes or no: you still do not have a plan? :))
finally rich
David Muir is criticizing and attacking Trump more than Kamala is.
Kamala can relax because the ABC "moderators" are handling the debate for her.
bass4funk
Exactly, and they make sure Trump goes with the most divisive questions so that she can give a personal rebuttal
Nothing new, noting of substance and you know who really loses out, the American voter because they didn't learn anything about this woman other than that she is desperate and flip-flops and they won't address it or call her on it.
finally rich
https://www.amren.com/news/2024/09/white-house-online-conspiracy-theory-about-haitians-eating-pets-complete-bs-misinformation/
TaiwanIsNotChina
DT on Climate Change. Dis gonna be good.
fallaffel
I was a bit worried about how Harris was going to do, but she is absolutely wiping the floor with Trump.
Zaphod
Both of them are wrong on the Ukraine issue. Some "choice".... disheartening.
BB
Trump's age is showing.
Zaphod
finally rich
Totally. And the woman moderator, who is bit more critical, hardly gets a question in.
And Kamala has her talking points totally memorized, and delivers them perfectly when Muir is giving her the clue. No discombobled rambling, no cackling.... kudos to her debate training team.
Bad Haircut
She's lying through her teeth on climate change and measures taken in its name. Where on earth did she get the job numbers from? Mars?
fallaffel
Yeah exactly, rigged election, rigged debate. When people start saying this they realize they're getting beaten.
Hawk
Harris is destroying him. All he has are his old, tired hits. No plan and nothing new.
They've given him much more time and opportunity to speak than they have her. Too bad he has nothing to say.
finally rich
Kamala uses a LOT of words to say absolutely nothing.
We had world peace under President Trump.
We're at the brink of World War III under Kamala.
Full stop.
JJE
Particularly appalling when she outright refused to take any responsibility for the 13 killed at Abbey Gate.
dagon
Harris obviously got under Trump's skin and he was veering off into more and more incoherent old man ranting.
The immigrants eating cats bit was the pièce de résistance. Also Trump talking about his infamously vaporware health care plan as all 'the concepts' he has.
I think Harris may have swayed some centrists with her professional performance.
The MAGA reps predicting a masterful Trump 'destroying' an out of her depth Harris were obviously very very wrong.
bass4funk
Phew, thanks David
All listed, proven and tested and done. Harris was just attack, attack and lecture, zero policies
They did not, they interrupted him, poked him and made sure that she could jab him with statements where he can't give a rebuttal.
finally rich
David Muir blasts Trump for 5 mins straight then turns to Kamala and asks her if Trump is a terrible person
They still think they can deceive the American people with this nonsense, they think so little of American voters.
Bad Haircut
Her conclusion is nothing but empty platitudes. The D's have been in power for all but 4 years since 2009 and hampered Trump's presidency when he was in. So why is the country in such a mess? She and her party are utter corrupt failures and have nothing of value to offer, just lies, corruption and theft.
finally rich
ABC News is race baiting! They’re asking President Donald Trump more controversial questions to put him on the spot. Deplorable
Hawk
The felonies and sexual abuse? Yep.
LOL. Fantasy land.
dagon
Harris has seemed to be getting under the thin skin of a lot of MAGA.
Don't worry; she is not really a Marxist and you will not be paying more taxes on your 'riches'.
mrtinjp
DT's final comment is worth billions, why have you not done it already..
fallaffel
Well, it's what happens when you say and do lots of controversial things.
At least it's something for Trump supporters to cling to. Not much else right now.
Hawk
Nor mine. But as a person with integrity, honour and dignity, I wouldn't want a sexually abusive felon as president.
Ken
You're reaching, both are terrorist attacks though the more recent being self-inflicted domestic terrorism
That is because the words that came out of his mouth goes directly to talking about race. Harris never questioned whether Trump was orange or pink. He has this aura of controversy floating around him so we all know why he got certain questions directed at him. And this isn't Fox news, they aren't going to clean up his messes and wipe his mouth for him
itsonlyrocknroll
Commercial break, Interesting, Kamala Harris didn't answer a single strait forward direct question.
Kamala agenda for this "debate" is to fall back on a rehearsed automated response, "turn the page" ........
Kamala Harris reactions is reminiscent to a "six form" debating session.
The posturing, the inane grinning, the arm on the lectern, a rule one no no, drilled in, first term college, year one ,
At no time did Trump resort to rude insults.
Kamala Harris, constant "bunch of lies" retort, repetition.......
Kamala must now face the people, the press.
Kamala Harris, my colleague Hitomi laughed "jidoka", memorising the prior many hours of coaching.
Strangerland
She pointed out more than once, and at the start of her final summary, that one candidate was focused on the future, one on the past.
He didn't make a single point in his final summary about the future. Not one.
He made her point.
JJE
The concluding point that she is "the worst vice-president in the history of our country" is quite a fair observation.
Strangerland
Because it's not like Trump didn't come off like a rambling angry old man with no plan for the future the entire debate right? If he could have made just that one point, it would have changed everything right?
Sounds like a massive conspiracy you've uncovered.
Hawk
Neutral, subjective observers are much better placed to judge the candidates' respective performances in this debate. Trump landed some jabs but punched himself out. Harris dropped him over and over. He was pretty cringe-worthy, actually.
Strangerland
Harris is already calling for another debate!
It's going to be awesome, because he's too weak to say no. It's gotta be on Fox.
Ken
More American than you LMAO. And the moderators wouldn't have interrupted Trump if he wasn't talking nonsense about people eating house pets. A third party fact checking lies and irrelevant information is a need, Freedom of Speech doesn't mean using your social status to tell lies and bull, people in positions as high as that should have standards, self respect and integrity at the bare minimum
Cards fan
I just finished watching. Trump got owned. Exposed for being the nasty liar he is.
If you think people are sneaking into the country to get gender ressignment surgery and eat your pets, you don't belong anywhere near the whitehouse.
Also, I love Trump claiming that he had a concept of an idea for healthcare reform. It's been nearly a decade now, genius. When are you going to get around to publishing it?
itsonlyrocknroll
Will the real Kamala Harris stand up? .........
It would be good idea before November 5th
Strangerland
Wow, I just heard him described on CBS (very centrist) as "emasculated".
This is Trump's Biden moment.
Chabbawanga
Subsequent debates are completely pointless. Trump will go ad hominem again and again, and Harris will run off a load of uncosted, false promises.
mrtinjp
Maybe they should debate on Fox next.
Well, she was invited did not attend.. so what's the point..
Cephus
What waste of time with overated, useless debates, which only makes millions and millions to the host media organization. Huff, Puff, twitch face, scowl, make faces, it doesn't matter the die is cast and Joe's humiliation is not over yet he closed the line
itsonlyrocknroll
Kudos to Harris, for calling for another debate.
finally rich
ABC News' David Muir and Linsey Davis were so bad that they made CNN look objective and fair.
Yrral
Trump got beastmoded by Harris, Trump was like a Rambling rose,I actually listened to the on radio like the old days,who let the dogs out,whodat he Democrats did
Hawk
Cry more.
Strangerland
Also, I love Trump claiming that he had a concept of an idea for healthcare reform. It's been nearly a decade now, genius. When are you going to get around to publishing it?
He looked exceptionally bad on that one. Nine years and he has never come up with a plan, and even now admits he's only go the concept of one (according to the details, bigger better and cheaper is as far as that concept has evolved mind you). She actually gave a plan for cheaper drug prices, and listed the things the administration has done so far to make healthcare better for the people.
I'd go so far as to say that in regards to any single issue, this was the one with the biggest disparity between his complete and utter lack of comprehension of the issue, and her policy.
Oh, and now CBS is reporting that Taylor Swift has endorsed Harris!
I can only laugh.
Ken
thinks Jan 6 was a peaceful fieldtrip, gets corrected, "Okay you're not American for disagreeing with me"
There are 2 types of people. Those who see things for what it is and those who lie themselves to sleep at night
Strangerland
Maybe Donald can just Shake it off, shake it off.
Yrral
Strangeland, Russian American votes are important too,like Ukrainian American votes
JJE
Go back and look at the abortion section - when Harris crudely interrupted her mic was turned on. Trump's was always muted throughout.
ABC clearly putting their thumbs on the scale again.
itsonlyrocknroll
I believe Kamala Harris could surprise on a rematch, just be Kamala Harris for better or worse. I think US people would respect her for it.
Yrral
Trump was wearing the Mantis tonight
BB
Taylor Swift endorses Harris after debate via Instagram.
finally rich
They asked about J6 which was 4 years ago
They didn't ask about J13 which was less than 2 months ago
A moral outrage
TokyoLiving
Kamala was much better than Trump, with more arguments and decency...
Trump only repeated his same rhetoric of hatred and exclusion, how much is his hatred that accuses immigrants of eating dogs and cats?, and that this is already a proven lie?, what a horrible person he is..
With that speech he has indoctrinated his group of worshipers,,
Hawk
You said it, not me.
I don't know. I'm quite conservative. I know your boy got handled, though.
DoubleCracker
Harris' failure to answer the questions is a good reflection of the failure of the Biden-Harris administration to confront any real issues, other than to run away from them.
Jimizo
Thought Harris came out better there. She was evasive but managed to avoid the nervous laughs.
Trump lacks the mental agility to come back with a zinger these days. Visibly slowing down. He got shouty and sulked.
mrtinjp
Everyone could see KH was phony and rehearsed.. nothing changed.. maybe she should take on the press head on to change that impression..
dagon
To add insult to injury.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/10/us/politics/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris.html
That has gotta sting for Trump.
DoubleCracker
Harris wouldn't offer to debate Trump again if she thought she won.
Bad Haircut
Wow, Taylor Swift has endorsed Harris! This changes everything.
Cards fan
Breaking news: Taylor Swift has now endorsed Harris and Walz.
Time to retire this career criminal weirdo.
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/11/taylor-swift-endorses-harris-walz-election-2024
u_s__reamer
As soon as Harris blurted out unchanged the Biden administration's mendacious pro-zionist boilerplate of what transpired on October 7 betraying her total lack of empathy for a people dehumanized by all American government officials since 1947, she revealed herself as just another cold, pitiless establishment politician with a single-minded ambition to climb the greasy pole to power. The ABC two tossed with a couple of exceptions the kind of loaded soft-ball questions that MSM are notorious for. As for the two candidates of the duopoly, their sound-bite studded, question-dodging performance probably did little to move the poll numbers while reinforcing the feeling that such characters vying for power are an indictment of the corruption and dishonesty of America's dumbed-down democratic system. Harris won the debate by default since Trump came off as the same old boring bloviator, a pathetic has-been like Biden.
Chabbawanga
Sad, but probably some truth in there
bass4funk
Facts.
In US terms?
Not sure about that one.
chotto_2
Harris wasn't perfect by a long stretch but she was articulate and on-point
Trump was just about everything being bigly huge and worst-ever.
bass4funk
She just did, so the next one my be on FOX and if she keeps to her word (ROFL) then she will have ti wing it, because she won't get any help from anyone there.
finally rich
This was Kamala’s litmus test.
Took her 7 weeks to prepare for this one, while she hid from the public (other than orchestrated and scripted events).
Another debate, sure. But I wanna see her in a press briefing, unscripted, where her TRUE COLORS can fly.
Strangerland
If trump isn’t afraid he’ll schedule the next one right away.
I look forward to it! That was entertaining.
finally rich
A confident campaign doesn’t announce its Taylor Swift endorsement at 11pm after the debate.
itsonlyrocknroll
I am bewildered, viewing again, its as if Kamala wasn't paying attention, moments feel "If Trump says this, you say that"
TokyoLiving
Breaking News...
Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris..
The musician's endorsement, which had been widely anticipated, was signed "Childless Cat Lady..
Hard blow for MAGA Gang..
Hawk
In terms of a person who can examine the arguments on either side of an individual issue and draw their own conclusions. So, no, I guess.
burgers and beers
Wow, Taylor Swift has endorsed Harris! This changes everything.
Was there ever any doubt that she would?
Jimizo
She did better than I thought she would. Trump did okay given that he’s been a slurring, slobbering mess at times recently.
Don’t know if this will shift the polls.
Harris shouldn’t fear a second debate if she does as well as this. Trump unable to flick out a decent jab these days, never mind a crunching uppercut.
Age. Can be cruel.
bass4funk
And?
Doubt it.
Legrande
Regarding inflation anyone can visit a supermarket in the US and see what's up.
bass4funk
With the help of the likes if David Muir? I guess so
Bad Haircut
I was being sarcastic ;-)
But yeah, you're right.
Cards fan
They didn't. She did. Who could blame her after Kamala blew Trump out? He's too old and washed up. Time to hang it up. No one is buying the lies about illegals eating our pets and getting sex changes. No one believes he's going finally come up with a plan. No one believes his lies about post-birth abortions.
Jimizo
Taylor Swift arguably the best celebrity endorsement any candidate would want.
Even more sought after than Chachi.
Legrande
Yea we need to follow the political advice of a cute pop singer.
funkymofo
We can tell who won the debate- magas are talking about Taylor Swift lololol
Yrral
Ain't no stopping Kamala know,she on the move and that no lie,have you as a Democrat,been held down before ,i know you refuse too be held down anymore , Kamala is moving moving into the Whitehouse
Yrral
Eating the pets of the innocent
bass4funk
Yeah, I'm a huge Rush fan, I couldn't care less who they would vote for, I think for myself.
stormcrow
Trump looked and sounded so old.
Harris won hands down.
Jimizo
Set up a debate with Taylor Swift and Chachi.
See how much depth they have behind their convictions.
NOMINATION
Name me a 78 year old that looks and sounds young.
ulysses
I just want to say I am grieving today, it’s a black day for us. Kamala Harris gave donald a smack down the likes of which have never been seen before!!!
I grieve Donald’s humiliation!!!
ok1517
As predicted Trump got smoked!
Soon to be POTUS Kamala Harris set up the trap and Donald stepped right into it.
Meeting Putain after his presidency was over: definitely against all rules and laws/
Ending the Russian aggression by selling out Ukraine to Putain - what a disgrace.
Meeting with Taliban leaders and releasing 5.000 terrorists - unreal.
Everything else the old man uttered, no facts, just imagination!
Donald you are gone and will soon be gone with the wind!
Game over! Get over it and enjoy retirement (at Rikers???)!
ulysses
donald spoke for 43 minutes, Harris for 37 and yet she mopped the floor with donald!!!!!
How could this possibly happen!!!!!!!
ulysses
Will a 81 year old do, Mick Jagger!!!
NOMINATION
You said the same thing after the last debate and guess who was "democratically" ousted after that.
ulysses
And what a fine mind you have sir!!!!
Please join me in grieving Donald’s humiliation!!!
ClippetyClop
Fox News desperately trying to patch the holes in Trump's debacle by telling their viewers what he really meant about brown people eating cats and dogs.
Quite frantic over there.
Jimizo
He has maintained impressive energy levels in his 70s but is deteriorating quickly.
To be fair to him, he was quite energetic here by his recent standards but the reflexes have completely gone. He used to be quick on his feet with a retort or insult but he’s sluggish now.
I think there’s a word in German for when you think of something you should have said at the time.
This must happen to Trump a lot now.
ulysses
Sir donald did not debate Harris earlier, I am sure you have forgotten in your grief!!!!
Yrral
Ulysses,do this include a slice of humble pie for Trump and MAGA
starpunk
'Marxist'.
Once again, the antichrist trump is throwing around 'catch words' for the uneducated, ill-informed, unknowing, dumb.
Once again, Spankee Dee is showing the world how out of touch with the reality of today he really is.
Once again, '3M' (Mindless Motormouth Mussolini) is spouting out ridiculous and insensible gibberish like a robot with a stuck tape player in its head.
Once again, Dictator Don is showing the world how unfit he is for practically anything.
Once again, his cross uncouthness and lack of maturity and class is visible to all.
Once again, he's got doo-doo on his face.
They didn't. She did. Who could blame her after Kamala blew Trump out? He's too old and washed up. Time to hang it up. No one is buying the lies about illegals eating our pets and getting sex changes. No one believes he's going finally come up with a plan. No one believes his lies about post-birth abortions.
Everybody is 'illegal' in the eyes of TreasontRump. 'Plan'? How about reporting to prison?
And Harris' reaction spoke volumes. Thing is, by coming up to him for a handshake first, she disarmed him. You see, Diaper Don is a misogynistic moron. He can't grab this one 'there', she's too strong, mature, and smart for him. He can't take that from a female! And here she is staring down at him while he's blubbering his hateful name-calling rhetoric by using 'big words' with meanings that he knows not. It makes him feel macho/cool/smart but he is none of those things. Here is a woman with her own p.o.v. (let alone a brain) and he can't take it!
I just made a silk purse from a sow's ear today. Wanna buy it? It's yours for $50 USD.
'Post-birth abortion'. What an oxymoron. Somebody doesn't know what an abortion is, or what the term even means. Oh wait, Trumpster is a moron.
And once again, he proves that fact once again. Just like he does every minute, every hour, every day.
bass4funk
He didn't look old, he looked more focus, given the barrage of attacks hurled at him.
No, she didn't, not on the substantive issues, but I will give her she won on the abortion thing.
bass4funk
Thank you
Can't,there wasn't any.
funkymofo
OK, who cares- Trump's 'get off my lawn' routine is old and tired. He lost the debate and the maga movement has lost all momentum.
Strangerland
Harris went and had a rally after the debate.
It was passed Trump’s bedtime though.
agondocz
I think that Donald Trump just got Swiftie-boated.
NOMINATION
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know which debate I was talking about. Kamala already lost!!! Trump wiped the floor with her!!
Strangerland
Taylor Swift is representing the childless cat ladies.
Her endorsement was accompanied by a pic of her and her cat.
ulysses
Yes sir, they fixed his makeup after the break!!!
Denial is the first stage of grief, let’s overcome this together!!!!
NOMINATION
Kamala was the worst debater in human history!!! Trump for the win!!
itsonlyrocknroll
Listening to the closing statements, Kamala Harris hung on catchy "rally" sound bites....
"Not going back, we have so much more in common, than separates us, we can chart a new way forward, a vision of that is having a plan, understanding the aspirations the dream the hope................"
It Kamala reading off the teleprompter, no heart or soul, empty. It should not feel cornflake packet gib, phony.
ulysses
Sir, you are a rocket scientist for sure!!!
I am sure alternative reality is your safe place!!!
ulysses
That’s the mark of a rocket scientist!!!
See things which aren’t there!!!
bass4funk
This is what coaching can do, you saw how she had to focus not jumbling up a word salad, that is not her true self.
sunfunbun
Eat dogs, baby! WTF? Trump was so flustered. Shifting eyeballs. Lack of eye contact with opponent...can't even look at her.
He was so scared of her, it was anger filled, the usual lack of cognition and full of lies from Don dumdum. No surprise, the same old same old, and he still has never had a health policy for the USA. He has ruined the economy, saved by the Biden administration. Biden. Trump still wants to run against. :D
He rarely, if ever, has an actual plan, and MAGA feeds into his nothingness.
More lies post debate as he comes back to the floor for what? Who wins a debate and tries to cover the loss by coming out to bark? No one, only THE LOSER, Mr. dum dum.
Taylor watches and supports. She don't matter, right MAGA? Haha, she has so much of a fan base, who are young voters, and they're all in on Kamala.
Kamala kicked his butt.
bass4funk
For the lights and everyone that is on camera gets the same treatment, every single one.
Well, I will give time for Harris to grieve.
Bruce Pennyworth
All you need to know is that if the establishment and the deep state are openly backing one candidate you should probably choose the other one. #Trump #MAGA #RIPAbe
buchailldana
Oh Donny boy
The lies, the lies are flowing
From your mouth
They never seem to stop
It's clear it's clear
You're a megalomaniac
Oh Donny boy
It's time for you to go
buchailldana
Eating dogs and killing babies.
That's a first
Strangerland
Maybe trump should have done the same, cause he made a whole word salad bar tonight. Do you think the people want a guy who gets so flustered and can’t put together a sentence? Isn’t he supposed to be a good negotiator?
Yrral
Bass4, Trump getting served Humble pie,will leave a bad taste in MAGA mouth for generations
Underworld
bass4funk
Kamala was the worst debater in human history!!! Trump for the win!!
Or maybe that is her true self as we have been saying all this time.
Strangerland
She was busy goading him into this debacle of his. It will be good to see her do it on Fox next. She’ll goad him into that too by offering him the comfort of Fox.
It will be delightful.
Jimizo
Will Trump claim Taylor Swift later ate the cat she posed with when endorsing Harris?
Maybe that cat voted Biden in 2020.
Strangerland
She passed the commander in chief test while he epically failed it in front of the entire country. All she needed to do was show up. She instead she aced the test.
Yrral
Turn off the light MAGA,the party over,turning off , turning off
bass4funk
She is.
Spoke truth to power as usual.
By stating the facts???
You mean, Harris Muir and that other talkative mod?
50 years in business and 4 years in the WH 289 accomplishments 1.7% GDP unfit??? Dear lord...
But a 3 pile gang on is perfectly ok? why?
AS he should
Being focus to not take the bait because of the snide and sneaky attacks
Not according to half of the country.
And yet her numbers are falling, and she can't even get endorsements from our law enforcements, that is huge, so that would mean, they don't trust her and why would they given the fact that the woman doesn't think being illegal is a crime.
No documents, yes.
For what reason? Are you guys ok?
Ok, but she didn't say anything on policy, it was just an all out verbal word salad attack on Trump and that is all.
You don't, but if the Mods did their research they would know that Trump was telling the truth and we do have a few facilities in the US that do allow late term abortion, so ABC was just being dishonest as usual.
What? Huh?
More emotional rant, relax, not relevant.
Proves again what? Why so emotional?
bass4funk
I see.
Cards fan
Even Foxnews commentators are saying Harris smoked Trump.
WoodyLee
"" As the former president made a series of false claims about migrants ""
FALSE CLAIMS is all what we will get all the way to Nov., nothing unusual here, Trump was exposed every since the Jan. 6th riots. He needs more than a miracle to get back to the white house.
fallaffel
There won't be another debate. Trump will make up some excuse. Next few weeks will be endless distractions to try to get people to forget about this debate.
Strangerland
Trumps climate change policy, when he could remember that the other person on stage was Harris and not Biden, was that hunter and joe Biden are bad.
bass4funk
Whoa, context! They are saying she won with the help of the moderators and that the mods didn't fact check her, and let her ramble on, "do you think the 2020 election was stolen?" even CNN of all networks didn't go that low. so now talk about any if the issues that people care about, the economy, nothing, the border, nothing.
NotThe One
Well, Harris just solidify one major celebrity endorsement.
Now, imagine all those independents and no celebrities she also one over with her successful debate, tonight.
How much anyone wants to bet that Weird Old Donald will claim victory tonight on Truth Socail, while he also claim that the debate was rigged as more bad press about his performance comes out?
bass4funk
Then don't call it a debate, ask the question and let the candidates answer. CNN to their credit did that.
John
Boy, she REALLY stomped his political corpse into the ground.
This was a debacle of the 1st order of magnitude for the orange blob.
Bob Fosse
All I’m reading from maga is excuses and whining.
Strangerland
The best MAGA has been able to come up with is that the moderators were biased.
A competent leader would have effectively dealt with that. Like she did. They cut her off too.
rcch
I haven't seen the whole debate yet, but from what I heard, Trump was in the middle of three people trying to set traps for him, irritate him and make him look angry; (fact checking one person while the other gets away with it was a very ugly thing to see)
;
In a normal world, someone who constantly changes his policies, hides her true beliefs and who has zero press conferences, one softball interview and one debate on a biased network would never be President of the United States of America;
if she somehow ends up being president, it will be because a) she had help from a lot of influential people (btw, ABC did a brilliant job of making Kamala look like a decent debater) and b) because people voted against Trump, not for her.
—
**The only thing that would almost make me respect Kamala would be if she accepted FOX's invitation for a second debate, moderated by Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum**.
Underworld
As I predicted, Harris wiped the floor with Trump.
starpunk
'Excuse'? What excuse? tRump isn't man enough to go to another debate, let alone with a woman! She looked down at this baby-man and put him in his place just by her nonverbal reactions. He's just a screaming loudmouth juvenile geek and he can't face strong or mature women. He just can't!
Maybe tonight he'll go somewhere and get spanked, he sure likes that! And he has 34 convictions to prove that. Damn.
bass4funk
ROFLMAO!
Because she answered and Trump was not allowed to give a rebuttal
No, Harris got more than 1.30 seconds more
So the next debate will be at FOX same format, but the difference, the Mods won't interject and call time to an answer. Hee, Hee, Hee
John
Ms. Lindsey is saying Trump’s debate prep team should be fired. That’s how bad he was.
fallaffel
I don't know what excuse he'll have, but there will be one. I think Vance is also smart enough to not agree to debate Walz. Vance would get spanked.
bass4funk
He is, do it again without the Mods holding her hands.
He did though, twice now.
Thanks to David Muir's, life line
But he did, did you even watch it? You say weird things recently.....
Yeah, that's going nowhere, so now worries.
funkymofo
Dems want to keep him talking- it only helps us when he rambles incoherently. Maybe he'll come up with a health care plan to talk about that goes beyond "we're thinking about it"
Strangerland
John Stewart has a great recap of the debate. John is the master!
bass4funk
We know, that helps them not talk about her non-existent record
And not answer any questions, true.
And maybe Kamala will answer the question if she wants to wipe out private healthcare for most Americans.
Strangerland
I think “they’re eating the dogs” needs to become the rallying cry of the left. Let’s remind everyone that this is who the right thing are competent.
John
Headline on Drudge:
”The night Trump lost it all”
Strangerland
John Stewart just referred to trump as Abe Simpson from the Simpsons. Apt.
sunfunbun
The context is what, now? Kamala and ABC had a home ice advantage, and the questions were asked unfairly, of which Trump could not give cognitive answers?
The moderators did not ask about eating dogs, he brought it up himself. He can't answer straight forward questions like 'would you veto a vote approving Roe v Wade? Is that the moderator's fault? pffft.
On Jan. 6th, everyone knows Trump encourage the insurrection and he would march with them. He blames a police officer who shot someone who is breaking windows and a threat to America in what is a sacred institution of Congress.
He's been prosecuted because he's a criminal. He uses red herring arguments that make no sense, and he asks when are people in Minnesota going to be prosecuted? That has nothing to do with him, not about who was or wasn't prosecuted. Fact is, he was prosecuted for many criminal reasons, of which Kamala listed. LEGIT Prosecution of Trump, he cannot acknowledge. Or acknowledge he lost the vote to Biden. Or acknowledge he is a racist. Or admit he did anything wrong, like not being able to have peaceful transfer of power, believing, yes, 2020 was stolen from him. What's the big deal being asked? But, hey, he knows...everyone knows...he lost the election.
Why he can't so say is the problem, not the question.
bass4funk
https://nypost.com/2024/09/11/opinion/harris-survived-the-debate-with-a-huge-assist-from-the-moderators-but-trump-scored-crucial-points/
Yup, seems on point.
Sven Asai
We have here the very old known pattern of the weakest becomes king / queen. That is nice for Trump or Harris, doesn't really matter who at the end has a few counts more or less, but all we billions of other people, in USA, in the West, on the whole globe, we get a very big problem in any scenario. That isn't an era we can afford or stand any of such clowns or puppets. Competences are needed, not a TV debate victory or two.
smithinjapan
Trump…. got … slaughtered… and it was hilarious!!
it’s also pretty fun watching Bass doing backflips to try and deny it and sane-wash Trump’s insanity.
smithinjapan
One of the funniest parts of the night was watching him cower and run when she came forward to shake his hand.
smithinjapan
Anyway, bye-bye, Trump! He can start talking about how it was rigged and fake all he wants—he just lost all undecided voters.
burgers and beers
Many media are saying the ABC moderators were quite biased against Trump whilst giving Harris an easy ride. Is that the case?
bass4funk
Yes
Kamala wouldn't answer the question either and she was never challenged, now to CNN, they in all fairness challenged both men, that didn't happen here
There was no insurrection and why was that even the issue, people are starving, can't afford food, gas, basic needs, crime out of control, 10 million illegals let in by this admin and they want to talk about J6? Weren't these the same people that got on Trump about holding on to the past, well the libs should take their own advice, this is 2024
No, because he is a political liability, anyone with a functioning brain knows it, that is why none of these charges are sticking
The Dems didn't do that in 2000 and in 2016 either, calling Trump an illegitimate President. that is not accepting the outcome of an election and then Jeffries and Raskin trying not to certify his Presidency.
It had nothing to do with 2024, what gets me is, libs want and like rules as long as it falls in their favor, but when it doesn't they cry foul, so if that is the case then the left should shut up when Trump talks about Kamala and how she first moved up in California, we all want to hear that story.
Underworld
burgers and beers
No.
Strangerland
Too had he’s too old to have dealt with it competently. A president needs to be more adept.
YongYang
Trump. LOL.
bass4funk
I disagree, now with the abortion issue, it was more waffly
I didn't, so not sure what you are talking about. Lol
bass4funk
Yeah, that is not going to happen.
lincolnman
I have to hand it to our MAGA-friends here - they're giving us a virtual DEI of futile excuses, whines, and evasions for Trump getting smoked tonight...
Standby for the REALLY kooky excuses to start tomorrow;
"It was really Nikki Haley in disguise on the stage tonight"...
"The crazy childless cat ladies put a curse on Trump's lectern"...
"It was all Taylor Swift and E. Jean Carroll's fault"....
Simon Foston
I think moderators are doing their jobs properly if they come down a bit harder on whoever is coming out with the most lies and falsehoods.
bass4funk
But they didn't that is the problem
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1833737789495513286?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ
This just came out, the Mods knew about this and didn't pin Kamala down to challenge hr on the police report and more are coming out, so while CNN is trying to rebuild their tarnished reputation, ABC just killed theirs and the good thing is, less people are watching, so they are a dying breed as most TV network news programs are.
YongYang
Stephen Sondheim's song has been released and now sends in the singular; coz Trump is a one noun show. .
Cards fan
If LOTT says it, it must be true. These are the same goons that bomb threats called at Children's Hospitals in the US.
Yes. The way to rebuild your reputation is to let Trump lie all the time. reeee
Good on the moderators for not letting debaters get away with lying to the American public.
itsonlyrocknroll
If that "debate" performance was adequate enough to propel Kamala Harris to the Whitehouse, its little wonder Dictators sitting pretty in Moscow/Beijing/Pyongyang have little or nothing to fear.
Underworld
bass4funk
I think moderators are doing their jobs properly if they come down a bit harder on whoever is coming out with the most lies and falsehoods.
Ha ha. Yeah, right!
John
The immigrants eating pets thing….
Besides being a lie, revealed Trump to be the racist xenophobic moron he really is.
bass4funk
Bingo!
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 02:32 pm JST
What is "this" exactly? I have neither the time not inclination for links to dubious stuff on X, which I do not use and am not about to start using.
itsonlyrocknroll
After three reviews Kamala Harris did not reply to a single direct question.
It could have been ready from a script, or a autocue.
bass4funk
Then if you don't want to be informed or hear another opposing point of view that is on you, right? But if not, then let us do it this way, Kamala had help from David Muir and his partner, they focused on attacking Trump, did not cover any issues that are important to most Americans, the end. No links.
Underworld
itsonlyrocknroll
Neither did Trump. Why didn't you mention that?
Same with Trump, except when he was goaded by small crowd sizes.
rcch
Elon Musk just X’d this (pretty accurate if you ask me):
“ While I don’t think the debate hosts were fair to @realDonaldTrump, @KamalaHarris exceeded most people’s expectations tonight.
That said, when it comes to getting things done, not just saying nice-sounding words, I strongly believe that Trump will do a far better job.
After all, if Kamala can do great things, why hasn’t she? Biden rarely shows up for work, so she’s basically in charge already. “
Underworld
itsonlyrocknroll
You saw how easy it was got Kamala to manipulate Trump on the stage, goading him, and he knew it was coming.
Don't you realize that dictators like Putin have Trump wrapped around their pinky.
Underworld
Maybe the GOP can trade in the old man with dementia with Nicki Haley?
The Dems replaced their old guy, and it worked wonders.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 02:52 pm JST
I want people to at least copy/paste a quote that makes it clear what they're saying.
What a predictable excuse. Your man Trump was useless. That's all there is to it but go on wailing about media bias all you want.
bass4funk
No Democrats
Because he couldn’t even talk.
itsonlyrocknroll
Trump summing up proved otherwise, impromptu, Underworld,
In all seriousness the same could not be said for Kamala Harris.
That is not suggesting Harris was prompted, just a thorough coaching schedule, and a good memory.
hachikoreloaded
"Kamala had help from David Muir and his partner"
Now his followers are regurgitating the same old "I've been mistreated" song.
Rhetorical question...How much does it bother a bigoted misogynist to lose to an intelligent woman of color?
Underworld
rcch
Damage control for Trump.