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Defiant EU nations ready themselves for Trump presidency

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Elections in France and Italy are set to bring in Trump-esque governments anyways.

Bye bye EU and NATO.

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Idiocy confirmed. Just this weekend Trump picks a dangerous fight with China, backs an Israeli Jerusalem policy that will inflame the Middle East, attacks Angela Merkel one of our closest allies, attacks Europe's protector NATO, attacks our own intelligence agencies, attacks a Civil Right's icon, attacks basic elective office ethical conduct, but embraces Putin and Russia, on and on. This moron is on his way from the mid 30% approval ratings by the mostly ignorant and gullible to only be supported by the nations most irrational, ignorant, delusional, and gullible members of society, in the 20% to 15%.

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Yeah, I don't think the European leaders have really taken notice that Trump is like a particularly tasteless, obtuse and crude bull in a china shop. And that's basically what his voters voted for.

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@brbushBye bye EU and NATO.

It sounds like you're cheering on a return to cold war days or perhaps more appropriately the latest iteration of the centuries old wars between European states.

Russia's got resources - oil, gas, minerals, etc. - all European nations need. IF Putin gets Trump to align with him (what dirt does Putin have on the Don?), and IF Trump's fellow Republicans in congress go along with the soon-to-be president, and IF (note capital letters) the European nations go their separate ways, i.e. your 'bye bye EU and NATO', Russia and its puppet state the US will have control over the continent. Hail the Putintrump axis!

I call the US a puppet state in this scenario because I think Putin's much more clever than both Trump and the Republican politicians, so Putin will end up pulling the strings. Putin knows how greedy and a-principled both Trump and his fellow Republicans are and how easily they can be bought off. Forget the US - Hail Putinistan!

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In Berlin, German Chancellor Angela Merkel insisted: “We Europeans have our fate in our own hands.”

Rather in hands of various islamic radicals and plain terrorists aka 'syrian refugees'.

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France called. They want the Statue of Liberty back.

It will only happen if she doesn't commit suicide first.

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not a bad thing to see the cosy EU consensus being rattled a bit. Hasn't done that much for the young people of Europe over the last years.

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@Strangerland

No chance of a statute committing suicide-quite impossible!

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No chance of a statute committing suicide-quite impossible!

If you look up you can probably see my comment going right over your head.

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Actually think Trump potus, Brexit etc could be a chance for Europe and should (hopefully) bring EU nations closer together. They have little choice anyway.

The Brits were always the most Eurosceptic of all, often trying their best to slow down any project that didn't suit their agenda (rightly or wrongly, not saying they were always wrong). So an EU without them may be able to go further/faster than before.

As for Trump, it's clear he doesn't get the EU model and what it stands for, which is fair enough. No choice for EU members then but to stand together and show some unity if they want to stand a chance vs Trump and his new (and only) best mates Putin/May.

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@ yamashiJan.

"Rather in hands of various islamic radicals and plain terrorists aka 'syrian refugees'."

Interesting point, kind of like a short cut to thinking.

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The European union will definitely NOT be the Europe of the future.

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Well the Russian 'bots seem very contented. Heh.

If anything this nonsense will bring Europeans together. Racist old baby-boomers might have triggered brexit, but many in the UK also consider themselves equally European.

The Russians can keep their endless cycle of hardship and poverty forward themselves. Italy has a larger economy... (the same one Trump was laughing at in 2014 when describing Russia as the world's enemy)

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Not content to crap in his own backyard, the micropresident flings far and wide. Let's see how the Brexiteers bask (or is that wallow) in the Special Relationship.

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This explains it pretty well -

The Most Important Reason Why the European Union Will Surely Fail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3IVWavU2rI&t=953s

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Idiocy confirmed. Just this weekend Trump picks a dangerous fight with China,

So you like the status quo kicking us around and making our politician walk on eggshells for the sake of being PC, the Obama did and got pushed around? What he did was idiocy when it came to his disastrous foreign policy.

backs an Israeli Jerusalem policy that will inflame the Middle East,

In case you haven't noticed, the MidEast is already past the burnt down stage and by the way, No one or any outsider should tell the Israelis or the Palestinians how they should come up with a two state solution and as our strongest and closest ally, we should back Israel and I'm glad Trump's going to do it.

attacks Angela Merkel one of our closest allies,

And Israel is closer, so why is it different, because they make Apfelstrudel?

attacks Europe's protector NATO, attacks our own intelligence agencies, attacks a Civil Right's icon,

NATO should pull it's own weight, we should always protect and uphold our pledge to protect our NATO allies, but Europe has to put in more effort, cut down on their huge entitlement culture and do more militarily if they worry about Russia so much, Europe should be and take the lead and we support them, shouldn't be the other way around. As for the intelligence agency, Brennan was out of line talking to Trump the way he did, even if Trump was wrong, he could have criticized behind closed doors, man to man and the same goes for Lewis, Dems think that being a civil rights activists gives you immunity from attacks or insults, both these men are shocked that they have someone now that will not take it or stand for it and good on him. I respect Lewis, but he was way out of line, way over the top and he thought Trump wouldn't respond? I honestly don't know what the man was thinking. By the way, you complain about Trump and how he disrespects our intelligence agency and the congressman, but you are ok with 32 Dems boycotting the inauguration, if you are and if you or other Democrats and liberals don't think so, remember the saying about Karma. If the Dems every come back in power what they are doing now can come back to haunt them. CNN found that out last week.

attacks basic elective office ethical conduct, but embraces Putin and Russia, on and on.

What's wrong with trying? When Putin annexed Crimea and the GOP had a meltdown, the Dems just didn't want to get involved and didn't seemed worried or concerned at all, but now all of a sudden, Russia is this huge threat?

This moron is on his way from the mid 30% approval ratings by the mostly ignorant and gullible to only be supported by the nations most irrational, ignorant, delusional, and gullible members of society, in the 20% to 15%.

Yawn, well, polls fluctuate as we all know, presidents always go up and down and Trump is not even president yet, so as of now, it doesn't matter, besides, I think it's pretty safe to say, most people really don't care or pay attention to the polls anymore. 2 months ago, they got it all wrong and they got it wrong in 2012 and they got it wrong in 2008 etc.... Trump will be ok and Obama will be gone and now we can turn the page on history. I'm definitely happy about that!

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In case you haven't noticed, the MidEast is already past the burnt down stage and by the way, No one or any outsider should tell the Israelis or the Palestinians how they should come up with a two state solution and as our strongest and closest ally, we should back Israel and I'm glad Trump's going to do it.

That strong and close ally doesn't have much to offer in the way of support for the US, except perhaps as an avenue for those in the arms industry. It may be a friend, but it's also a strategic and economic burden. The US has more reasons than most to find a two state solution. While the Middle East may have seen a lot of turmoil over the last 50 years, I fear it could get much worse, and at a great cost to the US in particular. I hope Trump comes to realize this, and that he helps move things towards some kind of solution.

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as our strongest and closest ally, we should back Israel

How does relocating the US embassy to Jerusalem enhance the security of either nation?

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