Democratic calls mount for Biden to end campaign, but he vows to fight on

I find this whole thing a terribly queer affair. The poor man is obviously no longer up to the job now, let alone in four years time.

It’s incredibly sad that the self professed country that leads the free world currently has the two men available to run as president. It seems like we are living in a bad distopian movie watching this election fiasco.

Yeah...it's a problem...both candidates unfit for different reasons...physical decay and moral turpitude.

Pottery Barn rule re instated for all of us non Americans watching...

"You {American political system } broke it...you own it "

Please dont make non US nations pay for this craptastic spectacle before us.

Were Biden to step aside as a candidate, Vice President Kamala Harris, 59, could fill the role. Reuters/Ipsos polling shows her as performing marginally better against Trump in a theoretical head-to-head matchup.

There were MAGA supporters bleating Harris was polling significantly worse the other day.

Of course word from the Trump campaign is they desperately want to keep Biden in the race.

But he spent much of the rest of his meandering 92-minute acceptance speech repeating well-worn attacks on the Biden administration and attacking migrants, a theme that has always animated his presidential campaigns.

The speech showed trump hasn't changed much, he is old too. He returns to the same nostalgic themes, many making little sense. It was the same MAGA litany of fantasies and fear and offered nothing to independents and swing voters.

He won the votes of the primaries. They enabled him so what are the complaints about while they backstab a guy, who a few months ago, these very same people insisted was up to the challenge.

Admit they misled everyone. That would be a good start.

There were MAGA supporters bleating Harris was polling significantly worse the other day.

I’m not a Trump supporter and it’s a fact that she’s polling worse than Biden in the most recent poll I’ve found

”A YouGov poll (margin of error 3.1) conducted July 13 - 16 and released Thursday found Biden would lose to Trump 41% to 43%, while Harris would perform slightly worse, losing to Trump 39% to 44%.”

The only means to influence President Joe Biden decision to run for a second term is Jill Biden.

I would begin and end, as the only point of contact at present, to politely respectfully subtlety coax Joe Biden to retire from politics, gracefully with dignity.

Attempt to stage a political modern day 21st century rerun of the "Ides of March" will be viewed as a desperate betrayal of a sitting President,

A gross failure to find a competent means or manner to persuade Joe Biden age can be brutal reminder time is not on your side.

Trying to force Senile Joe to give up the nomination AFTER THE PRIMARIES is in effect a soft coup, subverting the "will of the voters", you know , the "democracy" thing that folks on the left constantly accuse those on the right as trying to destroy.

That aside, the dems have well and truly put themselves in quite the pickle trying to swap out the candidate at the top of the ticket at the eleventh hour.

All of this current charade should have been done well over a year ago, BEFORE the primaries.

Well done!

Go Joe! Don’t let them steal this from you. You must get to the battle box in November so the American people can show you exactly how they feel about you last 4 years of “achievement”

BlacklabelToday 07:26 am JST

Go Joe! Don’t let them steal this from you. You must get to the battle box in November so the American people can show you exactly how they feel about you last 4 years of “achievement”

What are Trump's achievements other than sobbing, grievance, and hate again?

Article isn’t about Trump dropping out is it?

Democrats are a “threat to Democracy” trying to remove the clear winner of their primary in a soft coup led by party elites. This is vote suppression and leads to voter disenfranchisement.

All those minority, down-trodden primary voters for Joe last year mean nothing now. The party machine wants to save its own skin even though they are culpable.

Another backroom deal that pushes aside the disenfranchised - classic stuff.

They'll be panic and desperation if Harris, Newsom, or Whitmer

All three of them are are projected to lose against a Trump matchup according to the most recent polls.

All three of them are are projected to lose against a Trump matchup according to the most recent polls.

I forgot to post my sources

Trump +1.9 against Harris

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

Trump +3.9 against Whitmer

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-whitmer

Trump +2.8 against Newsom

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-newsom

Democrats are a “threat to Democracy” trying to remove the clear winner of their primary in a soft coup led by party elites. This is vote suppression and leads to voter disenfranchisement.

This is absolute and utter cobblers.

There were MAGA supporters bleating Harris was polling significantly worse the other day. 

Of course word from the Trump campaign is they desperately want to keep Biden in the race. 

But even if she were to run, she remains nationally highly unpopular and politically ill-informed.

The speech showed trump hasn't changed much, he is old too.

He has changed, more sharper, savvy and very aware of the establishment snakes in Washington unlike last time

He returns to the same nostalgic themes, many making little sense.

Maybe to the left

It was the same MAGA litany of fantasies and fear and offered nothing to independents and swing voters.

Wrong! he laid a vision of what he will do as President and what he won’t do and focusing and putting America first will be his solemn pledge, couldn’t have been more clearer.

Love watching the Marxist dems attacking each other. Shouldn't have embraced the far-left Marxist into your party.

Your red-baiting nonsense does not make a lick of sense but you have it completely the other way around.

The DNC worked hard to marginalize and shut out its much more popular 'leftist' wing in the primaries.

Fact.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4301768-phillips-apologizes-sanders-rigged-democratic-primary-system/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/10/democracy-unity-progressives-aoc-bernie-sanders

The Democratic and Republican parties do not formally nominate candidates until delegates vote at the party's national convention. The Democratic National Convention will take place from August 19-22, 2024.

Did you not know this Blacklabel?

Please let Joe run. He earned the right.

Democrats are a “threat to Democracy” trying to remove the clear winner of their primary in a soft coup led by party elites. This is vote suppression and leads to voter disenfranchisement.

Absolutely don't take away the rights of the people who voted for him.

Team MAGA is deathly afraid of a Biden replacement - they admitted it yesterday when they came out with their ridiculous "coup" narrative - the one all of our MAGA-friends had to flip and post after saying how much they wanted Biden to step down.

That was the funniest statement yet. The sad thing is, some liberals believe that.

They'll be panic and desperation if Harris, Newsom, or Whitmer entered the race - more than what is usual for them. 

And Trump would beat all of them. All you need to do is look how they destroyed their states.

But the RNC convention was such a clown show and embarrassment that it won't make any difference who the Dem nominee is - Trump will be in jail, and Nikki, JD or Marco will all have to defend their cave on life begins at conception and Project 2025 - two sure losers.

Clown show? The party is united and Dems are getting ready to Caesar Biden.

Your red-baiting nonsense does not make a lick of sense but you have it completely the other way around. 

No, spot on, Democrats in a nutshell.

The DNC worked hard to marginalize and shut out its much more popular 'leftist' wing in the primaries. 

Thank the lord!

The only means to influence President Joe Biden decision to run for a second term is Jill Biden.

sadly Jill Biden is supporting her husband’s death grip on power because she’s gotten too attached to being First Lady.

until delegates vote at the party's national convention.

the voters already voted for Joe.

he won the primary, handily. So he is the presumptive nominee. To replace him now is to use “delegates” who discard the will of the voters they represent. Soft coup by Obama and his minions.

muh democracy!

"" Nancy Pelosi, Barak Obama, and the rest of the Democratic Party commission seem prepared to make Joe Biden an offer he can’t refuse: One way or another, he’s dropping out of this race, they say, either with his consent or with his legacy destroyed. Just when Biden thought his candidacy was safe, after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump quieted talk of a swap at the top of the ticket, they pulled him back in, and now the pundits tell us that his campaign won’t survive the weekend. We’ll see.

For the bosses of the Democrat family, ending Biden’s political career is a three-step process. First they ask him to leave, then they tell him to leave, and finally they threaten to destroy him if he won't wise up. We are almost at step three.""

Read this article by Fox News very interesting stuff.

The dems have well and truly opened up a can of worms in trying to replace the democratically selected candidate at the eleventh hour. They are in quite the pickle of their own making. Well done!

Pres. Biden must have been watching Bibi for the past 4 years and now he is about to do the same,

Step Aside Sir before it's too late! or the Democrats won't have any jobs.

Wrong! he laid a vision of what he will do as President and what he won’t do and focusing and putting America first will be his solemn pledge, couldn’t have been more clearer.

More 'America First' and making it 'great again', got it. Sound like real policies to get things done, like the bestest most beautiful health care plan that never came.

Meanwhile in the first Trump term medical bankruptcies, poverty, homelessness and inequality all ballooned, even pre-COVID.

MAGA

All the ‘muh democracy’ posters clearly showing they know little about the US election process again and again.

That’s what happens when you get your information on Twitter.

Another one who isn't current with the MAGA playbook.

we are talking about Joe Biden dropping out, not MAGA.

so why are all the Democrats in competitive races begging Joe to drop out? Even Hannibal Lector agrees.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ohio-democrat-sen-sherrod-brown-urges-biden-end-campaign

President Joe Biden must present a vision of a US government in control, offering a vision of unity and prosperity of genuine equal opportunities devoid of identity political toxicity.

"I look forward to getting back on the campaign trail next week to continue exposing the threat of Donald Trump’s Project 2025 agenda while making the case for my own record and the vision that I have for America,"

This simply is not of any consequence, inane, what has happened to the vision promised and pledged four years ago?

Biden must today, once and for all undergo independent cognitive behavioural competency tests.

All the ‘muh democracy’ posters clearly showing they know little about the US election process again and again. 

why do people vote and have a primary process if delegates can just be told by Obama and Pelosi to select someone else the voters didn’t vote for?

this was never mentioned during all the primary voting. Joe won all the primary votes, he is our guy and he’s gonna beat evil orange guy! So what happened?

That photo offers little confidence that President Biden can comprehend contextually who or what he is waving at.

this was never mentioned during all the primary voting. Joe won all the primary votes, he is our guy and he’s gonna beat evil orange guy! So what happened?

Assuming he drops out to health issues I don’t see how it would he undemocratic. Would you also say that the speaker of the house assuming control of the country as undemocratic in the case that both the President and Vice President were killed?

Over the past year, Trump supporters have adamantly insisted that Biden is unfit for office. However, now there is a discussion taking place about his potential run, and the same posters are fervently advocating for his candidacy. It's truly an odd stance from this group of people.

4 years of cognitive and physical decline and NOW you decide to notice it? Once the media and some politicians decide to act like they notice it, every lib hops on the bandwagon. I thought you said it was all a right wing conspiracy?

Democratic calls mount for Biden to end campaign, but he vows to fight on

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… just another old, typical politician clinging to power. What else is new?

Watching some MSM coverage of the Republican convention, I was surprised (but not really) to see several of the hosts try desperately to boost Biden by trying to make a comparison with Trump being shot and Biden having COVID!

Saying things like:

"Both men are around the same age and everyone is saying how strong or stronger Trump is for being shot and getting up and being at the convention looking good."

"So if Biden recovers quickly from COVID that was/is serious for those of his age and is out campaigning quickly won't that be the same?"

"Shouldn't the media point out how strong Biden is and fit for recovery quickly from COVID."

I am sorry, like it or not MSM pundits but being shot, being the target of an assassination attempt and catching COVID are in no way in the same category not even in the same universe!

If the MSM pundits are at this point of desperation they should just stop and figure out how to get rid of Biden instead of making what is an insane attempt at making him look strong by any means!

It's truly an odd stance from this group of people.

Well, naturally, Wallace. It’s a truly odd group of people.

Interestingly, a cabal of unnamed dem megadonors(could those financiers include foreign nationals bent on influencing the outcome of the US election?) is reportedly threatening to withhold funding if Biden stays on the ticket.

So, who are the dems beholden to, the "donors" or the actual voters (who voted to keep the Biden marionette in office)?

Is this their vision of "democracy" ?

Read this article by Fox News very interesting stuff

Might give it miss. Haven’t been kicked in the head by a horse recently.

Any Tucker Carlson material?

Our team Biden experts will be along shortly to explain to you this poll is a fake MAGA fantasy claim and anyone who believes it is a MAGA conspiracy nut job. Also Joe is beating Trump in polls, debates, cognitive ability tests and golf games. LOL

Oh wait! Projecting a bit there.

Biden is far too frail to run. Step down.

AntiquesavingToday 08:55 am JST

Trump was shot in the external part of the ear. While not entirely useless that part, it is also far from likely to be fatal. Covid actually could be fatal.

Over the past year, Trump supporters have adamantly insisted that Biden is unfit for office.

Not just Trump supporters, Dems as well, but in 2020 they didn't have anyone that came close to being able to take on Trump, even that was a slim gamble, and then...

However, now there is a discussion taking place about his potential run, and the same posters are fervently advocating for his candidacy. It's truly an odd stance from this group of people.

Well, it is a joy to watch the turmoil brewing within the party and it will only worsen with each passing day.

Karma.

All the ‘muh democracy’ posters clearly showing they know little about the US election process again and again. 

Wait and the left does? ROFL!

That’s what happens when you get your information on Twitter.

Should it be from the NYT? maybe the Daily Kos or Yahoo! news?

Great picture of Trump and his family members.

A brave and courageous display of leadership.

It is interesting.

I have seen 3 previous polls by 3 other groups 2 left leaning 1 right and all 3 put Harris as losing To Trump and doing so worse than Biden.

Reuters/Ipsos is known fur manipulating polling.

They will poll "independents" primarily in states that those "independents" tend to lean Dem.

Example.

If you poll independents in Texas and independents in NY the results will be very different with one primarily leaning right the other left.

So as usual, I will ignore most polling by Reuters/Ipsos and a few others that do the same on both sides.

You need to look at "who" is paying for the poll before accepting it as real, Reuters is now owned by ultra left Thompson in Canada, since this, Reuters objectivity and neutrality has long gone away.

MAGA-world for the past three years - "Biden is illegitimate! He is unfit for office! He's a danger to the world!".

And look what happened, from Afghanistan to the border, Ukraine to the FAA, inflation, rising food costs and then there is Joe's 50-year history, documented, well-known to the nation what the guy has done as an incompetent career politician.

But when Dems consider replacing Biden? "No, no, no - you can't do that! You must keep him there! You're staging a coup!"

Hey, that's what they are doing to the man! That is what we are all seeing, what are you talking about, it has nothing to do with the Republicans, that's your party and they have to deal with this coup, all I can say is, best of luck.

it's stunningly similar to their view on the border: "The border is out of control!".

Absolutely

OK, here's a bill written by your guy in the Senate that increases border funding and decreases asylum seekers. "No, no, no - we don't want that!".

How about the President issuing an executive order, if he can stop all of Trump's, then he can re-instate them, those are some of the powers of the Presidency, he could have re-instated Title 42 with a stroke of his pen, but he didn't, because he didn't want to, another death blow to the Dems.

Hypocrisy - thy name is MAGA.

Hardly

TaiwanIsNotChina

Today 08:58 am JST

AntiquesavingToday 08:55 am JST

> Trump was shot in the external part of the ear. While not entirely useless that part, it is also far from likely to be fatal. Covid actually could be

Have you ever had the flu or COVID? Billions of people have.

Now have you ever been shot, even in a non vital part of the body?

Have you ever been the target of attempted murder?

People don't get PTSD from COVID, but attempted murder, yes.

Are you seriously trying to compare attempted murder with catching COVID?

Any Tucker Carlson material? 

Tons

Biden is far too frail to run. Step down.

It matters not "he can stay or go" to coin: the Clash

Looking forward to Democrats undemocratically picking their nominee soon

Any Tucker Carlson material?

Now you talking. Glad you have finally seen the light as so many have :)

Carlson is too hysterical and dishonest for my tastes. Not my thing.

If he was on here, he’d be replying to his own posts.

Ridiculous person.

"I look forward to getting back on the campaign trail next week to continue exposing the threat of Donald Trump’s Project 2025 agenda while making the case for my own record and the vision that I have for America," he said in a statement, 

Republicans are looking forward to his getting back on the campaign trail too.

Looking forward to Democrats undemocratically picking their nominee soon

By this logic Trump shouldn’t have been president in 2016 seeing as he lost the popular vote.

Carlson is too hysterical and dishonest for my tastes. Not my thing.

Nothing hysterical or dishonest at all about the guy, calm as a cucumber especially after he departs from FNC, helped. 

If he was on here, he’d be replying to his own posts.

He might not care or just respond because it's an open forum.

Ridiculous person.

To a few, probably

By this logic Trump shouldn’t have been president in 2016 seeing as he lost the popular vote

He claims he didn’t.

He said millions of illegals voted and deprived him of winning the popular vote.

It goes without saying no evidence of this was found.

He has a habit of doing things like this.

He clearly lost the popular vote to Jimmy Connors.

Thanks - my point proven.

Well, that Biden botched Afghanistan and everything else, you got it.

Yesterday it was "Dems should toss him". Today "it's a coup - keep him there" It changes every day. Pure hypocrites.

Again, that is something YOUR party has to deal with, all Biden has to do is prove that he can lead his party, or just hold on to his precious delegates and go down like the Titanic and take his party with him. The clock is ticking....

MAGA-deflection alert.

Why? We got what we wanted.

Indeed - hard to keep the MAGA-narrative the same each day.

You try so very hard...

I think we are can agree that the only poll that will represent the genuine wishes of US electorate will take place in the ballot box on November the 5th.

The question is the candidates, nominee Donald Trump, possibly from a Rikers Island prison barge, if Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi have any impute.

Or?

Never has there been such speculation, such consequences, such questions been circulated over a sitting President mental and physical competency.

The damage this speculation, directly questioning governance in office, the stability of US system of government, is curial to US democracy.

This DNC convention August 19 to 22, 2024, at the United Centre in Chicago, Illinois could become a seminal moment, I would even suggest ground-breaking in how the "Joe Biden" dilemma is presented to the US public and a solution is found.

Hypocrisy - thy name is MAGA.

not really as Democrats, the muh democracy/muh vote people, are the ones plotting to remove the person who the people selected with their treasured vote.

i take it you don’t understand its sarcasm or just a trick to confuse you when we say Biden needs to stay.

Do we really want that or are we trying to trick you into removing him to spite us? You really don’t know, do you?

You are frozen in paralysis or analysis not knowing who or which poll to believe. Meanwhile, tick tock.

Biden remained defiant, saying he would resume campaigning soon.

That would be interesting.

America will not be fooled this time.

We get a true American hero, the profile of courage in Trump.

Trump didn't deliver during his first term.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37982000

Trump’s 40 Biggest Broken Promises

https://prospect.org/politics/trumps-40-biggest-broken-promises/

zibalaToday  12:23 pm JST

We get a true American hero, the profile of courage in Trump.

If I actually wrote adulatatory tripe like this about anyone I would expect to get paid very well for all the self-respect I had to give up.

BlacklabelToday  09:35 am JST

i take it you don’t understand its sarcasm or just a trick to confuse you when we say Biden needs to stay.

Or is it because you don't fancy Trump's chances if he has to run against someone younger and possibly more appealing to the electorate?

Hypocrisy - thy name is MAGA.

not really as Democrats, the muh democracy/muh vote people, are the ones plotting to remove the person who the people selected with their treasured vote.

Yesterday you wanted him to exit, today you want him to stay. Tomorrow?

You are frozen in paralysis or analysis not knowing who or which poll to believe. Meanwhile, tick tock.

Step down or stay - what is it?

Trump didn't deliver during his first term.

Quite a bit though

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/291320/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping/

Trump’s 40 Biggest Broken Promises

Well, a lot he couldn't do because of Covid not to mention the Dems would not work with him and SOME Republican RINOs were also stabbing him in the back and not pushing his agenda, that won't happen next time, he's got his people, most that are in the House are Maga, the Republican Senate side with so many freshmen in their ranks they are mostly with the Maga agenda.

No Trumpcare to replace the Obamacare. No Mexican wall.

AntiquesavingToday 09:14 am JST

Have you ever had the flu or COVID? Billions of people have.

Yes, what difference does that make? Still is dangerous, particularly to the eldery.

Now have you ever been shot, even in a non vital part of the body?

Have you?

Have you ever been the target of attempted murder?

No. Are we supposed to reward convicted felons for being the target of attempted murder?

People don't get PTSD from COVID, but attempted murder, yes.

Poor baby Trump. Maybe now he knows what those "losers and suckers" go through.

Are you seriously trying to compare attempted murder with catching COVID?

I am seriously trying to compare getting shot in the external part of the ear with Covid and Covid is more dangerous.

Ramsey's KitchenToday 09:29 am JST

Yep, Dems propagandists not having their brightest moments. Next they'll tell us staircases and podiums are more dangerous than gunshots.

Putinists aren't having their brightest moments when they claim you can die from getting shot in the external part of the ear.

No Trumpcare to replace the Obamacare.

Congress will work on that.

No Mexican wall.

Of course not, it's an American wall.

Trump insisted on calling it a Mexican wall to be built with pesos.

P45 excuses.

Trump insisted on calling it a Mexican wall to be built with pesos.

P45 excuses.

I don't give a flying fig what he calls it, just happy that construction will commence on it to finish it and to hire more border patrol agents and I especially love that he will put Tom Homan back on the job, just love it! And that is just for starters, the cops will get the immunity they need to fight crime as well as the backup. Good times ahead.