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© Copyright 2019 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.Democratic contenders bash Fox News on Fox News
By DAVID BAUDER NEW YORK©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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lincolnman
Jeez, Chris Wallace just openly admitted Fox isn't a journalism organization - "we don't want to hear what you think, we want you to thank us". I guess he believes everyone they invite is Trump.
The band of crazy Russian-loving right-wingers like Hannity, Carlson, and Ingram need to be called out for what they are - hate mongers who do nothing but parrot Russian authored conspiracy theories. And not because they believe them, just to con their listeners to buy their books.
All the Dems should go on Fox - and express their views on the network - expose the hate...
Strangerland
The Mueller report showed that Fox “news” tailors their reporting to the requirements of the White House. They are a proven propaganda mouthpiece of the White House. Nothing more. They’re like that weird woman that they show reading the news on North Korean tv, going on about dear leader etc.
Strangerland
I agree fully. As the pubs have correctly pointed out many times, Hillary ignited states that she shouldn’t have ignored. She ignored voters that she shouldn’t have ignored. The president needs to be the president of the people, not their base.
The idea that democratic candidates should not appear on fox because of how despicable fox is, is pathetic. Grow up and act like adults anyone who would criticize that.
PTownsend
I do too, but still think regardless of the perspectives, opinions and distortions pushed by Fox'news', they're part of the free, for-profit press and must be allowed to remain free. Assuming they don't break laws.
What worries me most is when the US president and his staff use their positions to attack media outlets that even question them. Trump and his backers are the greatest threat to a free-press the US has seen in years - maybe ever.
lincolnman
Got to love this - Judge Nap on Fox News just said the President was willing to commit a felony to get reelected....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-judge-napolitano-seems-trump-203617982.html
Fox - 99% propaganda, 1% journalism...
PTownsend
they're probably just wasting time, energy and money.
Many Fox viewers are part of the fundamentalist, 35% of the US (maybe every nation's?) population unwilling and perhaps incapable of being 'reached'. Many are poorly educated. Many are intellectually vulnerable. Many are members of religious sects with binary views on existence: my cult's view right - all other's wrong. Many are true believers who think some messiah here (or somewhere) can save them from the problems of existence. Qanon, Bannon-Breitbart, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, etal are fully aware of how to manipulate the 35%. As is Rupert Murdoch who uses his global media empire's numerous outlets, including Fox'news' to 'reach' them. As is Putin who also uses his global media empire's numerous outlets to 'reach' them.
bass4funk
Castro like all the other Socialists nut jobs running for President know if they want to reach a broader audience, they need to go on FNC to get the exposure when they get on and try to bash the network, that doesn’t hurt them and the daily ratings over the last 13 years reflects that. You would never see any of the liberal networks doing the same, but their outreach is less so it wouldn’t help any GOP contender.
No wonder Democrats rushed to go on, can’t blame them.
“Fox is substantially better at influencing Democrats than MSNBC is at influencing Republicans," the authors find. While most Fox viewers are Republican, a sizable minority aren't, and they're particularly suggestible to the channel's influence. In 2000, they estimate that 58 percent of Fox viewers who were initially Democrats changed to supporting the Republican candidate by the end of the election cycle; in 2004, the persuasion rate was 27 percent, and 28 percent in 2008. MSNBC, by contrast, only persuaded 8 percent of initial Republicans to vote Democratic in the 2008 cycle.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/8/16263710/fox-news-presidential-vote-study
Nothing wrong with that. George Soros does the same.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/billionaire-leftist-soros-pouring-more-money-into-lobbying-efforts
It goes both ways. Soros will do whatever he can to use his power and money to spread liberal ideology and Murdoch will do the same for conservatism. Welcome to the world of politics and the titan moguls.
lincolnman
Repubs can't go on MSNBC or CNN - Donnie will call them traitors - he doesn't like free speech...
Me either - use their own propaganda against them...
Given how much Russia propaganda they parrot, Putin is getting his money's worth...
Thank goodness Rupert's son's are liberal....
bass4funk
Has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, they just wouldn’t invite them, they never have.
Whatever that means, it never worked for them. Maybe they should try coming up with sound policies.
Can’t say the same for Zucker and Griffin. Lol
But smart, at least when one tried to push FNC the backlash was so severe, he just left it alone. Smart man.
Serrano
Got to love this - Judge Nap on Fox News just said the President was willing to commit a felony to get reelected....
Heh, yeah, Judge Nap has hated Trump since he was passed over for the Supreme Court. He's wrong more often than he's right. Fox should get rid of him and that other Trump hater, Juan Williams. But no, they gotta be "fair and balanced."
"I don't understand why this network and in so many conservative circles, people are still talking about Hillary Clinton," Castro said.
Because she's known felon who came close to becoming POTUS and is still on the loose.
PTownsend
If Clinton's committed a felony, which would make her a 'known felon', why haven't Trump and Barr, his appointed head of the Department of Justice brought charges against her? And the RINOs, deep state, orcs are greater than Trump defense might be believed by Trump's remaining supporters, a minority of the US population. Those able to reason beyond the headlines in infowars and RT won't.
bass4funk
How do you know they won’t. Be patient. Barr is now putting his time and effort in investigating the investigators, that takes now the biggest priority.
So the media is desperately trying to spread that myth to viewers, if that is the case, why do these Democrat socialists have a few hundred crowds and Trump has 10-15,000 on average and also the liberal media never do a wide shot of the crowd sizes of Trump rallies? Lol
lincolnman
Everything to do with Trump - he'd ridicule them - you know Donnie hates free speech, just admit it...
Use Fox's own propaganda against them - great strategy....
Merv Griffin? I think he's passed....
You've praised a Liberal - good start - but both are Liberals and once they are in control, Hannity, Carlson and Ingram better have new jobs lined up...
Yet your favorite network still employs him....
No better example of an unhealthy Hillary fixation....creepy.....
ulysses
Fox is nothing more than people reading aloud Trump’s tweets. It’s a bit more intelligent than Sarah Sanders and bit dumber version of RT.
theFu
"News" networks have been mainly entertainment since Ted Turner put CNN on air.
bass4funk
So what? He can say whatever he wants, they cold go on an venue they choose, but that will never happen because liberals don’t debate that’s why you’ll never see Conservatives on their networks. Opposing viewpoints not needed or wanted.
Liberals hate it more, they invented Political Correctness.
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And failed every time, every time and still CNN and msnbc can’t get their ratings up, even the NYT barred their journalists from appearing on these networks saying they’re too biased.
Never.
They are affectively in control.
They won’t because if they did, they’d be out of a network and job, they tried that last year and the backlash was so severe, they decided, we need to leave this alone.
That’s a good thing about Fox, unlike the other networks at least they have opposing points of views.
Serrano
If Clinton's committed a felony, which would make her a 'known felon', why haven't Trump and Barr, his appointed head of the Department of Justice brought charges against her?
Apparently you don't know how powerful the Clintons are, especially Hillary.
Fox is nothing more than people reading aloud Trump’s tweets
No, but CNN and MSNBC are just mouthpieces for the Democratic Party.
lincolnman
Trump would roast them for going on MSNBC or CNN - call them school yard names and taunt them.
And?
Failed? You sure you watch Fox? Bernie and Mayor Pete both got standing ovations on Fox.
It's in black and white;
Me: Thank goodness Rupert's son's are liberal....
You: But smart, at least when one tried to push FNC the backlash was so severe, he just left it alone. Smart man.
Not yet - Rupert is still breathing...
Nah, they'd get hired at Russia Today or Sputnik in a heartbeat...
Sure, 1% of the time...
bass4funk
He roasts people all the time, no big deal.
Precisely. And they couldn’t care less about it.
For the small crowd that wanted to see them, which doesn’t hold a candle to the 10-15,000 Trump gets.
Yes, smart for leaving things the way they are, so in that regard, keeping the most successful and most watched cable media outlet intact, is the smartest thing the man has done.
No, they are effectively, one of Murdoch sons tried to axe Hannity and he had his head handed to him, there is nothing that network is going to do to get any of these bigwigs out even as we speak and change captains it just won’t happen.
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Don Lemon, Cooper, oh, most definitely!
Yes the heater say that, but not the Nielsen ratings. But I get it you don’t like them, but the daily beatings that the other networks gets, the numbers don’t lie.
Chip Star
Weak excuse. Had the venues been larger, more Fox "News" viewers would have been able to give them standing ovations.
Isn't it repugnant that they allow prolific sexual harassment at Fox "News" without punishing the bigwig perpetrators until they absolutely have no choice?
I'm surprised you haven't tied to claim to have worked for Fox. It's weird that you're such a staunch conservative, but have only claimed to work for liberal outlets.
Peole with eyes and ears know that Fox "News" rarely has opposing points of view, which isn't determined by ratings.
Chip Star
*people
bass4funk
Definitely not, but it seems like liberals deeply want to suppress his though.
I try my best.
Thanks for admitting you were wrong when I said you praised a liberal and you said "Never"...
James and Lachlan took over two years ago, so essentially, they are the new CEO theoretically.
Chip Star
That's not how it works st all.
bass4funk
No, numbers and attendance do matter very much.
Funny, not that many people lined up and even at the venues the Dems pick, they don’t have that kind of record turnout, never.
I think it’s pathetic when on liberal networks that married news pundits cheat on each other with other people’s spouses, divorce and then remarry their co-anchors. Breaking up happy homes, classless.
At the time, I had an excellent position, why leave it? No reason to go.
Definitely not true. You will see more liberals on debates on FNC than the opposite and the best thing is, you don’t have to agree and you won’t lose your gig unlike the other networks where you have to agree or get your contract torn up.
bass4funk
Yes, it does because now they’re having a lot of internal fighting because of that and as I said, one of the brothers tried to get Hannity and Ingraham off the air, it didn’t work, because the viewers didn’t wan it. Now if they want to destroy the most watched and successful cable TV network, they can try and see how their shareholders react. Again, they tried, but they’re not that stupid go that far.
Jimizo
Have you forgotten about voting for Bill Clinton twice again?
Texas A&M Aggie
To the democrats' few remaining basement dwelling voter base, "Castro for President" kinda has a ring to it.
Jimizo
I think those who think Fox is fair and balanced should have wanted Fox to kick out Hannity for supporting Trump on stage and parroting Trump’s ‘fake news’ line.
bass4funk
I voted for them, never praised them. I’m not an idiot.
Blacklabel
Missing is the point that Fox News will actually allow these Dems a platform to speak. They also employ numerous Trump haters to balance their coverage.
The liberal media is just an echo chamber of Trump hate and would never even consider to hold events like these
bass4funk
No, no need to, Hannity is a partisan, but to Hannity’s credit, he always, always has liberals on and started his career show with Alan Colms who was a very strong progressive liberals. He has his opinions, but he always allows the opposing viewpoints to be heard, now on msnbc....nothing.....CNN...only if you agree with the hosts or you are never invited back.
Jimizo
@bass
You voted for Bill Clinton twice but never felt he did anything worthy of praise?
How about his budget surpluses? Remember that you are a non-partisan fiscal conservative, or at least used to be.
It’s sad that people watching partisan nonsense like Fox seem to have become partisan in the same manner as the bobble-headed stooges Fox puts on the TV.
Chip Star
I agree with that, which was clear in my post. Had Fox provided larger venues for Pete and Bern, there would have been more people in attendance. More people would have meant more Fox viewers giving them a standing ovation. Is it clear now?
Are we talking about the venues Fox pick, or the ones Dems pick? I was talking about the former, but you seem to have pivoted to the latter.
You're equating consensual interactions of liberals to unconsensual actions of Fox "News" employees. That speaks for itself.
Irrelevant to Rupert still. Ring the CEO.
Chip Star
Right until he shouts over them or cuts their mics. Hilarious anyone would ever make this claim given we have hours and hours of him doing so.
bass4funk
He never does it to those that done bloviate. Hillary supporter and liberal Alan Dershowitz never gets his mic turned off or Doug Schon, none of the rational liberals, it’s the idiot emotional talking point ones he does and I don’t blame him.
The economy and my 401K
Well, that isn’t true because if that were, that idiot Shepherd Smith wouldn’t be on the network. Well, there goes that argument.
bass4funk
I doubt it, already on their own they don’t bring the crowds Trump does.
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Fox went into venues that’s friendly to the socialists. So they were on friendly turf.
I wasn’t
Very, very relevant as his son tried to put an axe to Sean’s head and missed and so the infighting continues.
Jimizo
Oh, so you not only praised a liberal, you praised a liberal on achieving on matters of huge importance.
I thought your idea of never praising a liberal didn’t make any sense.
That’s clear now.
bass4funk
I never praised anyone.
Glad to clear that up.
Jimizo
You agreed Clinton deserved praise for his performance on the economy but you never praised him for it?
No credit where it is due?
That is partisanship defined. Quit watching Fox and Hannity in particular. It’s corrosive.
bass4funk
I think he did a decent job, not something I could scream from the top of rooftops, but for a liberal one or two claps.
That’s ok, I’ll pass, at least I hear what liberals think whereas the other networks I would just hear one-sided liberal babble, now that’s corrosive.
Wolfpack
It’s so humorous for Dems to complain so vociferously about Fox when their ideological comrades dominate the news media. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, Washington Post, Washington Times, etc all openly espouse the Leftist party line. These party mouthpieces are populated by former Democrat party functionaries.
The outsized whining over viewpoint diversity on the part of the Left is a symptom of the Democrats growing totalitarian impulses. It’s time for Democrats to stop their intolerant behavior and accept that not all people are going to think alike.
bass4funk
And these networks are extremely hostile to conservatives, the first two won’t let you on unless you’re a Trump hating conservative then you’ll be booked all the time on those networks.
lincolnman
What a load of BS - I thought Trumpers didn't watch those networks? Maybe if they did they'd see, Hugh Hewitt, Rick Santorum, Chris Christie, and a lot of other Repubs shilling for the President...
Toughest job on TV...
bass4funk
BS? Lol...hardly. Some do, some just watch the Highlights...YouTube is an amazing invention....
lincolnman
So Hugh Hewitt, Chris Christie, and Rick Santorum aren't conservatives?
bass4funk
Entrenched Conservative Washington establishment they be for sure.
lincolnman
Which means you were wrong again when you said that "these networks are extremely hostile to conservatives, the first two won’t let you on unless you’re a Trump hating conservative then you’ll be booked all the time on those networks"
Plus "I never praised a Liberal" but called the Rupert sons smart
And saying Donnie and Ivanka no longer get their apparel line made in China - when they still do...
That's three today - a new record...
bass4funk
Again? I wasn’t wrong the first time.
They are.
Exactly.
Doesn't mean I respect them.
They don’t actually.
SuperLib
FoxNews.com doesn't report on news as often anymore. It's mostly front page opinion pieces (not marked as opinion) and stories to help the culture war they are waging.