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Prominent Democrat Schiff calls for Biden to withdraw: Democrats aim to nominate before convention

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For the office/POTUS. the first priority is to maintain the dignity of President Joe Biden.

Both friends, adversaries/enemies will be paying close attention to both the political and diplomatic outcome to President Biden current unaddressed age related healthcare, that could potentially undermine Biden/US, the wests role as a democracy defender.

This must take precedence.

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Biden’s own pledge to “shut down” the Covid-19 virus isn’t aging well.

Biden said-I will take care of this. I will end this. I will make sure we have a plan.

I promise to end this Chinese virus. He did not say Chinese. But that's what it is and that is where it came from.

Remember that promise readers? I sure as hell do. I was fighting to breath in my quarantine space.

Well.

Guess who just popped positive. Ironic isn't it.

Bad day for Biden as calls continue for him to duck out.

But I do wish the ole geezer a speedy recovery. Covid at his age is nothing to joke about.

Not to long ago.

Representative Adam Schiff (Shifty), chair of the House Intelligence Committee, was working on getting answers and ensuring we’re better prepared for the next pandemic. Schiff and his congressional colleagues proposed a 9/11-style bipartisan commission to investigate the government’s response, determine if the Biden administration ignored key warning signs, and help oversee how the Biden administration spent more than $2 trillion in relief funding. Yep, Shifty cleared the Biden admin.

2 Trillion! Do you realize how much money that is?

Shifty, show me the money! Where did it go. Where was it spent?

Why does Biden have Covid? Why is Covid an issue still? What happened to (I will end this) promise Biden made?

Dems, Better off with Trump/Vance and lowering expectations. The virus has shown to adapt no matter how much money you throw at it.

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The nomination of JD Vance was after the assassination attempt

And decided well before it. Good thing Trump doesn't take inflammatory rhetoric to heart, but rather puts America ahead of personal insults against him.

I'm looking forward to a no war, America first president come Novermber.

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Trump mentioned in it over 270 times,

Mostly in a negative light. Perhaps you should take your own advice and read it

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Trump won the election the second that Thomas Crooks took a shot at him that he never should have been allowed to take.

Vance is going to hold Trump back from winning. Some comments from his side.

"This guy has a non-white wife and a kid named Vivek. This guy is going to be a defender of white identity? I don't think so. This guy is going to defend 'American identity?'

"If he does, he's going to be no better than these other civic nationalists like Vivek Ramaswamy. How else can you countenance American identity if you have a mixed-up family like that?"

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Quo PrimumToday 11:29 am JST

Trump won the election the second that Thomas Crooks took a shot at him that he never should have been allowed to take.

I predict a 1-2% bump in the polls.

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Geeter MckluskieToday 11:29 am JST

Trump Americas Hitler

That ship has sailed...along with the bullets that flew past Trump's head, July 15, Butler PA

The nomination of JD Vance was after the assassination attempt so that ship has sailed right back around.

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Trump Americas Hitler

That ship has sailed...along with the bullets that flew past Trump's head, July 15, Butler PA

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It doesn't matter now whether they replace him.

Trump won the election the second that Thomas Crooks took a shot at him that he never should have been allowed to take.

An assassination attempt that was obviously allowed to happen on purpose.

No way is the Secret Service even capable of that level of bumbling, grotesque incompetence.

So, keep Biden in there, Democrats, or replace him. Doesn't matter. The deal was sealed for Trump the second that bullet came within an inch or two of killing him.

About the only way the Dems can even hope to win, at this point, is to replace Biden with JFK after somehow resurrecting him from the dead.

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Tin-foil hat Dem take.

Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

I was under the impression weed was illegal in Japan...apparently not

Project 2025 is the right winged bible

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Schiff is running for a senate seat.

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Don’t need to defend Trump, just calling out the empty rhetoric

No, just their toxic policies

"Toxic policies" but supports Project 2025?

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Schifty is in a super safe Blue district in California yet even he is afraid of losing because of Biden? It must be worse then we even think.

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Hitler

Whenever I hear this word anywhere I know there is someone stupid talking.

Indeed....

"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a$$hole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler," JD Vance wrote to an associate on Facebook in 2016."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-once-compared-trump-hitler-now-they-are-running-mates-2024-07-15/

Glad to see you think your Repub VP pick is "stupid"....I couldn't agree more....

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No one commenting on Peter Navarro giving his prime time speech at the RNC within hours of being released from jail? This is MAGA!

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Politicly not actually, Shifty with his knife out with a quickness. Stabbing Biden in the back. Democratic party imploding on itself. Biden's back is turned. Nancy in wait.

This is how plastic the Dems are.

 Not to long ago this is what Shifty had to say about his friendship that spans over twenty years on Biden.

"I've known Joe for over two decades. He knows how to tackle big problems, how to unite people and inspire the best in all of us. He is ethical and compassionate, hard working and methodical. And he has exactly the right experience to help America and the rest of the world overcome this pandemic and lead us to prosperity.

-California Congressman Adam Schiff.

Yeah right Shifty Schiff.

Who's your Daddy now Shifty?

Liar and fair weather friend to Biden ! I love it. CNN already predicting a Landslide for Trump/Vance.

All I have to say. Biden should stay in the race.

As he loses the White house, whisper to Shifty Schiff

-Kai su ei ekeinon; kai su teknon!

-Julius Caesar.

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Not when defending Trump

Don’t need to defend Trump, just calling out the empty rhetoric

or getting triggered by the Left just existing

No, just their toxic policies

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Whenever I hear this word anywhere I know there is someone stupid talking.

Must not think much of JD Vance's intellect then.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-once-compared-trump-hitler-now-they-are-running-mates-2024-07-15/

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project 2025 itnst made up , its a real fascists manifesto with Trump at its core. go read it.

Like the 1619 project?

then get back to me and explain how it isnt a authoritarian playbook. go read it .nah Maga wont.

theyl just shrug their shoulders say oh well Trump is king now, typical maga endgame

ROFL!!

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Change Joe before it's too late..

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Vance is in full support of project 2025, clearly you havent read it, calm down

I did and I’m always a calm person.

, Ill bet my house right now, that if Trump wins project 2025 will go into effect.

Congress would have to approve, so we don’t know

Autocratic rule by a US president. calm down

He didn’t last time

, just like maga said prior to 2016, Trumps just talking he wont do it.

One question, was Hillary locked up? Yes or No?

Did almost everything he said he would. nothing hes says now makes any logically minded person think otherwise he wont do the same if he wins in November

You need to take a deep breath, once again, nothing happened in 2016, all of our institutions were intact, nothing happened, there were no massive concentration camps, no one was paraded in front of the public, no one was arrested or persecuted, it’s all good. You’re giving yourself a bit of too much unnecessary stress.

Its unfrucken believable that a maga thinks Trump wont be a dictator or they dont even care.

Why? Stop listening to mainstream media crap, it’s seriously damaging you guys, if he didn’t do it back then, because that’s what everyone said back in 2016 and nothing happened, chances are nothing will happen again, he’s not going to do with the Democrats are doing, so relax.

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My 9:12 post outlined the 'minimize-collateral-damage' approach of sticking with Biden for the inevitable loss.

But the alternative of switching gears has its own merits:

They have got to switch. You got to roll the dice. Take a chance on somebody else. It’s strength versus weakness. Strength wins every time (even when it loses it is commendable because people will remember for showing some spine).

A change will be the only chance to flip the narrative to this in the current environment with the feeble incumbent.

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Whenever I hear this word anywhere I know there is someone stupid talking.

its literally in the project 2025, setting up camps to deport millions of Americans, nobody is saying Trumps going to exterminate million of immigrants, fascism doesnt always mean mass genocide. It means authoritarian dictatorship , installing minions in government to kowtow to their dear leader.

Once again go read the manifesto, get back to me when youve got evidence it isnt an autocrats wet dream

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Whenever I hear this word anywhere I know there is someone stupid talking.

From literally dozens of real life dictators even much worse than the failed painter from Austria (some still living right now) they decide to pick up the boogeyman because that's the only historic name they actually know or heard somewhere. Not worth it.

Because right winged propaganda tries to show him in a good light

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Hitler

Whenever I hear this word anywhere I know there is someone stupid talking.

From literally dozens of real life dictators even much worse than the failed painter from Austria (some still living right now) they decide to pick up the boogeyman because that's the only historic name they actually know or heard somewhere. Not worth it.

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falling for the very same scam again seriously can't make this up!

project 2025 itnst made up , its a real fascists manifesto with Trump at its core. go read it.

then get back to me and explain how it isnt a authoritarian playbook. go read it .nah Maga wont.

theyl just shrug their shoulders say oh well Trump is king now, typical maga endgame

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Hitler?? So Vance wants to build concentration camps or have millions killed? Seriously, calm down, it’s not that bad.

Vance is in full support of project 2025, clearly you havent read it, calm down, Ill bet my house right now, that if Trump wins project 2025 will go into effect. Autocratic rule by a US president. calm down , just like maga said prior to 2016, Trumps just talking he wont do it. Did almost everything he said he would. nothing hes says now makes any logically minded person think otherwise he wont do the same if he wins in November

Its unfrucken believable that a maga thinks Trump wont be a dictator or they dont even care.

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Won't be voting for Trump this year, been told the orange man will start WW3 or something.

There is no way he won't do what they say he'll do this time!

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Trump Americas Hitler, JD Vance

Hitler?? So Vance wants to build concentration camps or have millions killed? Seriously, calm down, it’s not that bad.

no fascism first, go read project 2025, its an autocrats wet dream, 

I wish the left would’ve shown the same outrage with the 1619 project

Trump mentioned in it over 270 times, 140 of those who compiled it worked for Trump or know him personally.

That never came from chunk, that came from the Heritage foundation

If anybody thinks Trump doesnt want to be that autocrat, sorry but your delusional

Well, we had four years of Trump and nothing happened, so it’s safe to say nothing will happen again, he could’ve gone after Hillary, but he didn’t, so I think liberals need to relax. He’s not going to do to them what they did to him, so all check balances will remain intact.

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 fascism first

falling for the very same scam again

seriously can't make this up!

they walk among us

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The Democrats should put together a moderate ticket with two young, intelligent white guys.

Wouldn't that throw the Trump campaign into a tailspin!

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Trump Americas Hitler, JD Vance

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Yeah...America first

no fascism first, go read project 2025, its an autocrats wet dream,

Trump mentioned in it over 270 times, 140 of those who compiled it worked for Trump or know him personally. If anybody thinks Trump doesnt want to be that autocrat, sorry but your delusional

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One side can see no good in the other side.

Because there is no good in the other side.

https://news.gab.com/2024/07/there-is-no-unity-with-evil/

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For a nation without compulsory voting, Americans sure get agitated about politics.

One side can see no good in the other side.

Not a good indicator of any future unity.

Probably better for people to educate themselves on the various lobby groups , the concentration of wealth and the existence of the US ruling class than to bark at each other over the gaffes of politicians who cant/lack the will, to challenge the groups I just mentioned.

The propaganda America tells itself blinds Americans to the reality of America.

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Biden deserves to rest.

You can literally see in his face he's exhausted and in pain.

This has nothing to do with politics at this point.

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Time to pass the torch. He had 8 years as VP. Then he had his whole cake for 4 years. Why can't he pass the baton when even so many in his party know he doesn't look fit for the position? Greed or dementia?

Love it!

Such Olympic imagery just before Paris.

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Ok and if Trump wins, given there history with violence, you think these Marxists will just accept a Trump win and go home? Again, given their aggression and violent history?

Only in the delusional MAGA mind stuck in a 1950's red baiting mindset is Trump campaigning against 'Marxists'. This is nonsense.

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No doubt the Dems will have more unity that the WWE spectacle going on in Milwaukee...

"Rep. Derrick Van Orden (R-Wis.) appeared to call Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) a “little b‑‑‑‑” after an awkward exchange with former Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) at the Republican National Convention."

"Gaetz taunted McCarthy on the floor of the convention Tuesday night, telling the former Speaker that he would “get booed off the stage” if he were to speak at the event. Van Orden reacted to a clip of the exchange on social platform X, where he pushed back on a description of the incident that said Gaetz needed to be “physically held back” by security."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-rep-calls-gaetz-little-182115819.html

MAGA-infighting, turmoil and failure...they're too busy fighting among themselves to take on the Dems...

ROFL...

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That is his politics

Yeah...America first

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Dems had 4 years to get someone competent to beat Trump in 2024.

What were they counting on? To make Trump disappear before the next elections?

Even Michelle Obama would have a better chance than Biden.

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He's here to stay. Get used to it...and get over your obsession with a person's race. Try focusing on his politics and view

He's the only guy I've known to talk about the replacement theory conspiracy, as bass-ackwards as that is how in the world would that convince his party to vote for him? That is his politics and his views revolve around self-destruction and tearing down the opportunities that are available to him

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I think based on the extremism of Trump and his GOP that regardless what the official vote count is, Trump and his militias will once again not accept the outcome and will use force to ensure Trump returns to the WH.

Ok and if Trump wins, given there history with violence, you think these Marxists will just accept a Trump win and go home? Again, given their aggression and violent history?

Trump the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society,

And?

The Supreme Court and and other establishment groups that want full-on corporatocracy

In the 2022-23 term, of the ten cases decided by a 5-4 vote, seven resulted in what are considered liberal outcomes.

So it’s not by any stretch of the imagination a conservative or Trump’s court, best to leave that debunked nonsense theory alone.

will do whatever they can to go from having some control of the nation to having full power.

You mean the way the Dems are doing now? Now I see what they’re afraid…makes sense. You never want to be on the receiving end of what you dish out to others, especially when it comes back on you possibly.

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Time to pass the torch. He had 8 years as VP. Then he had his whole cake for 4 years. Why can't he pass the baton when even so many in his party know he doesn't look fit for the position? Greed or dementia?

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Vivek is the lost little duckling that thinks he would be respected by his own party.

Vivek is a newcomer who has gained a lot of respect in his party and has gained much ground in a short time.

He's here to stay. Get used to it...and get over your obsession with a person's race. Try focusing on his politics and view

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Biden is a complete disaster, but Trump will steamroll anyone.

Maybe dems are better off walking the plank with Biden - who can then take the blame and recriminations for being stubborn and breaking his promise to be a "bridge candidate", accepting the inevitable while they rebuild and hoping the damage he does up and down the 'battle box' is not terminal.

It would take a brave person to jump out in front of this. First, they have to oust a stubborn man quite late and second, take on a candidate with the wind roaring in his sails.

Either way, they have really backed themselves into a corner.

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There are many wonderful Democrats who would be way, way better than fruitcake Trump. Oh well.

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I think based on the extremism of Trump and his GOP that regardless what the official vote count is, Trump and his militias will once again not accept the outcome and will use force to ensure Trump returns to the WH. Trump the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, The Supreme Court and and other establishment groups that want full-on corporatocracy will do whatever they can to go from having some control of the nation to having full power.

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Ken,JD will withdraw as soon lots of MAGA,find out his wife is Indian

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RFK is in the wings. C'mon Dems, what's wrong?

LOL

Sure shows how militarized, corporatized and establishment-tized the Dem party is. So much for the working class. That's OK Trump will pick them up with ease. As I've said for years, I love watching the Dems shoot themselves in the foot, over and over again.

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Schiff wants to protect Biden from humiliation?

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IMO they may as well keep wheeling him out until he loses the election to Trump and then can start afresh and build again from there.

Getting someone else in now, who will also lose to Trump, will set them back and show a nasty disloyalty to whom until very recently was a fine, mentally capable President and any such suggestion otherwise was because of 'so-called 'cheap fakes' and conspiracy nutjobs.

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Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif. needs to urgently review, whether his leaves home daily with his political head on the right way up.

If Joe Biden is to be persuaded to stand aside Schiff method is drowning in self interest over a more sensitive approach.

The RNC is moving into an otherworldly political oasis of hyperbolic rhetorical messiah complex

Donald Trump Speech LIVE | Trump Speech At RNC Day 3 LIVE | Donald Trump LIVE | Trump LIVE | N18G

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ0PGY5o8S0

This needs to be viewed and fully understood, it is rather unnerving, unnatural.

Joe Biden really needs to move aside as soon as its acceptable.

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lincolnman, I suggest you worry about your own side. The Dems haven’t had a clownshow like the one they own now in their entire history.

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Adam Schiff seems a reasonable and competent rep

If duping the naive and unreasonable is the bar

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Speaking of conventions, the one in Milwaukee is giving us comedy gold….

Kevin McCarthy getting trolled by Matt Gaetz during a CNN interview…how’s that for “unity”?

Mike Johnson, who has criticized Biden for relying on a teleprompter, having a teleprompter breakdown and just giving up and walking off the stage…

The Teamsters Union head comes on - and obviously thought he was at the Dem convention, and goes down a litany of Dem talking points, saying unions are great and the Top 1% fat cat corporate owners are scum - and the Repub audience sits in shocked silence…

A drunken Rudy Giuliani falls and wipes out an entire line of chairs where Trump is reserved a seat...

But the best was Lee Greenwood who was introducing Trump and went on and on and on….with Trump waiting in the wings rolling his hands going “hurry up idiot”....and then when Greenwood still droned on without introducing him, another band started up and overplayed Lee and introduced Trump for him….ROFL…

Or in other words, a complete and utter fiasco and clown show…

These Repub incompetent buffoons can’t even stage a convention…lord knows they can’t govern…

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Adam Schiff wants to take away the right to vote.

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Dems in for a busy few months...replacing their 傀儡 and concocting their next hoax

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If the US had no confidence votes Biden would be out but we have our duopolist electoral college system.

Yes.

There are still a rough majority who will vote for comatose Biden over kleptocrat dismantler of democracy Trump

Dismantler? You mixed them up.

but overall will and motivation are fading.

Dangerous times ahead.

For the Dems Marxist and Socialist ideology, I would pray that it does.

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It's beyond obvious that Biden is no longer fit to be a world leader.

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Adam Schiff seems a reasonable and competent rep. in the very limited times I have heard him on TV etc.

Lol! You have some knowledge gaps to fill there, friend.

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Biden’s US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen as well, throws him under the bus:

“As the US imposes sanctions, more and more countries will look for an alternative to the dollar. US sanctions will reduce the value of the dollar.”

Still blind Binden sheep still defending him here.

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Adam Schiff seems a reasonable and competent rep. in the very limited times I have heard him on TV etc.

Which to me indicates that among the US political class there are people who would be better than the current 2 runners.

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also found that only about 3 in 10 Democrats are extremely or very confident that he has the mental capability to serve effectively as president, down slightly from 40% in an AP-NORC poll in February.

If the US had no confidence votes Biden would be out but we have our duopolist electoral college system.

There are still a rough majority who will vote for comatose Biden over kleptocrat dismantler of democracy Trump but overall will and motivation are fading.

Dangerous times ahead.

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As Adam Schiff has lied, misled or been outright wrong about nearly everything, Biden should stay.

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“While the choice to withdraw from the campaign is President Biden’s alone, I believe it is time for him to pass the torch,” Schiff, a key ally of former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and a candidate for the Senate this year, said in a statement. “And in doing so, secure his legacy of leadership by allowing us to defeat Donald Trump in the upcoming election.”

There is little or no honour finesse subtlety amongst politicians, Joe Biden must be afforded the respect, after representing, Delaware for 36 years.

There is something rather disingenuous, duplicitous oozing out of Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif gob.

It has become clear Joe Biden age, cognitive wellbeing requires a careful rethink by Jill Biden, however to achieve a dignified "step down" is key.

If an alternate nominee is not going to be accused of forcing Joe Biden into a nursing home.

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Just last month the media assured us that anybody who questioned Biden's mental fitness was a right-wing conspiracy nutjob.

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Democrats should keep Biden as their candidate. He epitomises them.

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