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© Thomson Reuters 2024.Harris, Walz test Midwest credentials at rallies in Michigan and Wisconsin
By Jeff Mason and Joseph Ax EAU CLAIRE, Wisconsin©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Underworld
The Harris/Walz ticket is expressing joy and hope. The Trump/Vance ticket is all about grievance and retribution.
Blacklabel
Well that took 1 day.
Walz wasn’t honest about his military service level and ducked out on his unit when it was time to deploy to Iraq.
Dem Senator response? Well, I’m not aware that JD Vance has ever served.
oh really?
zibala
"She has not been a good vice president for the American people, and I don’t think she deserves a promotion," Vance said.
She is the worst VP ever, and her border policy is one of the biggest disasters America has faced.
dagon
I said before Trump is going all in on this angle of attack and this quote is probably one of the saner ones.
Musk is joining in too. Guess he forgot his inspiration was a communist, Iain Banks.
But comparing him to Bernie is going to backfire. '
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/02/05/the-reasons-why-young-voters-are-embracing-bernie-sanders-and-socialism/?sh=6207fb3d2f17
https://jacobin.com/2020/01/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-2020-presidential-election-republican-democrat
bass4funk
To their supporters, sure
Looking at how her and her boss’s policies have severely damaged the economy and nation.
wallace
Walz retired two months before his unit received alert orders to deploy to Iraq.
wallace
VP Vance will never be president.
Yrral
Bass4,lots of MAGA never had anything while Trump was President,
John
wallaceToday 07:28 am JST
Oops! That really seems like a fact that could have been checked easily.
So much for that one.
But Captain eyeliner can tell all about his paper cuts as a public affairs officer in Iraq!
Underworld
Wallace
And he was deployed to Italy as part of the Afghanistan War.
Cards fan
Lol he didn't "duck" out of his service. He resigned. Shocking.
He's been endorsed by more than 50 of his fellow service members. He was the highest ranking enlisted member to ever serve in congress. Rather than lambaste his service record, the GOP should explain why theyre trying to make it harder for veterans to vote.
Really pathetic seeing Republicans go the swift boat route again, but not surprising. It's all they have.
At least he didn't pretend to have bone spurs to avoid the draft.
Blacklabel
Walz also said he served in combat. Didn’t.
said he was a command sergeant major. Wasn’t.
as unit leadership he would have definitely known 2 months before any deployment order. So he quit.
Meanwhile? JD deployed to Iraq. As what role is irrelevant. Beau Biden, right?
John
Vance also tried and failed to troll Harris and Walz but failed.
He’s now 9 points under water and dragging the Insurrectionist in Chief down.
How long before he gets tossed off the plane for a sloppy-second choice? (Maybe he WAS the 2nd choice?)
At least he got off the couch so to speak.
bass4funk
Why would he not? He would be stupid not to, expect the Marxist and Socialist duo to do the same.
But Musk is fighting to preserve and protect the Marxist takeover of corporations, were that to happen, the nation would be screwed irreparably.
Bernie is already bad and a joke (policy-wise) but A Harris and Walz Presidency would even make Karl Marx blush.
zibala
Trump called Walz a "radical" liberal
Right on the money.
Cards fan
He sat in an air-conditioned office writing articles for the military.
Blacklabel
All the deflections here are just like the White House deflections.
don’t deny the allegations just change the subject. Walz is guilty of “stolen valor”.
“This is someone who enlisted at 17 years old to serve his country. He was part of the Army National Guard for 24 years. (Stop. Deflection time) This is someone who was a high school teacher, right?” Jean-Pierre said. “A high school coach as well, who grew up in a small town in the Midwest, and so I think his bio speaks for itself, who he is speaks for himself, his record speaks for itself, and I’m just not going to say anything beyond that.”
TaiwanIsNotChina
Will compare well against a "combat journalist" and Captain Bonespurs.
Legalistic nonsense I'm sure.
As a 40 year old, nobody should expect him to be hauling gear in Iraq.
Lol, keep running that line about stolen valor and we will see how irrelevant it is.
Peter Neil
BlacklabelToday 07:18 am JST
vance was a public affairs goober pounding on a laptop. he was in for 4 years and achieved the illustrious rank of e-4. you have to be a real screw up to not be e-5 at 3 years service.
wallace
Walz was a command sergeant major. When he retired he took one rank less because he did,t fill out the necessary paperwork.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/06/tim-walz-who-spent-decades-enlisted-soldier-brings-years-of-work-vets-issues-dem-ticket.html
bass4funk
Neither will Walz
Not really.
Only the battleground states will call the election
https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
First choice, not sure what the left are munching on. Lol
He didn't even sit down. You guys ok? Lol
John
One would think that some professional would think twice before accusing a command Sargent Major of “ducking out” when the top of the ticket dodged Vietnam with fake bone spurs that never existed.
One would be wrong or maybe there aren’t any pros in Trump land, just craven goobers?
wallace
zibala
Trump calls Haris/Walz many untrue and bad names. Nothing new.
marc laden
Watch how much money Kamala is going to have after the election . Trump will be crying after seeing it And MAGA
watch here
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/R3F_CAGibJg
Yrral
JD Vance has not seen anything coming his way until the October surprise,JD Vance is lying drug cartel do not waste money with hillbilly heroin,lots of these Hillbilly were hooked on Oxycontin
bass4funk
His men said it. So it has nothing to do with Trump. The left can try and unsuccessfully pivot to Trump, but that’s not going to help Walz and his “ducking out”
No, pros
John
”citizen-journalist” pros? Ok, lol.
bass4funk
99% True.
rcch
Jesse said this on FN: This ticket is so liberal, it's like they're trying to lose. This was Kamala's first major decision, and she choked. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro was the frontrunner, but sources say he was too Jewish for the Hamas wing of the party and was too talented a campaigner and would steal the spotlight from Harris. So her cowardice and her insecurities forced her to choose the only guy who looks older than Biden. How did Kamala pick a vice president more radical than she is? They're the Jordan and Pippen of progressives…—accurate.
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My analysis: what Kamala did was almost what Trump did, which was pick the person the base supported the most
so at the end of the day, these VP picks won’t make a big difference—it’s all about Trump vs Harris again.
Cards fan
Jesse is another rightwing weirdo who the air out of his colleague's tires so he could make a move on his colleague. This all happened while he was married. So, I wouldn't trust his sense of judgement. I'd almost instinctively trust the opposite to be true.
Hervé L'Eisa
And don't forget how Walz let Minneapolis burn for days during the BLM riots, with his wife apparently opening their home's windows to enjoy the burning tires smell. Of course, the BILLIONS of $$$ of damage didn't happen in THEIR neighborhood.
He lied about his military "career".
Notice how the monolithic news media only offers fluff for the dems and never does any honest investigative journalism except against conservatives?
ok1517
Why can't some people accept the facts?
Soon to be VP Tim Walz was a CSM!
His unit was deployed on an "alert mission" 2 or 3 months after he retired!
And don't forget, the wanna-be-POTUS Trump is a bone-spur draft dodging, military insulting con-man!
Blacklabel
But Trump and trying to denigrate JD (who did deploy), his rank (irrelevant) or his job (Beau Biden?) doesn’t solve the stolen valor issue for Walz.
speaking of National Guard, his daughter was ok Twitter revealing to the rioters where the troops were deployed so they could evade and continue rioting.
i wonder how she would know the locations of the troops her Dad mobilized to locations he was aware of ? That’s a tough one.
Bob Fosse
Do the Republicans think criticising Walz for avoiding military deployment (to better serve his country in congress) and enabling felons to vote is the best approach considering they want bone spurs Capone to be President?
Seems hypocritical. And weird of course.
bass4funk
https://nypost.com/2024/08/06/us-news/tim-walz-embellished-military-career-for-years-dropped-from-national-guard-unit-ahead-of-iraq-deployment/
Veterans have accused Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz of “embellishing” his military career and abandoning his National Guard battalion, highlighting that the now-vice presidential pick for the Democrats never served in combat and retired from service ahead of his unit’s 2005 deployment to Iraq.
In a letter posted to Facebook in 2018 as he first ran for governor, retired Command Sergeants Major Thomas Behrends and Paul Herr said Walz retired from his 24-year tenure in the National Guard after learning that his battalion would be deployed to Iraq, despite allegedly assuring his fellow troops he would join them.
Bob Fosse
You can tell us her border policy then. Any details?
I have a big one; she was never in charge of border policy.
Cards fan
Glad you brought that up! Leftwing extremist and current GOP nominee Donald J. Trump actually praised his handling of the George Floyd protests.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/despite-new-criticism-trump-told-walz-2020-happy/story?id=112616502
Clearly Tim Walz is capable of bringing the country together. He even got Trump's seal of approval. :)
TaiwanIsNotChina
Waltz should just focus on the "suckers and loser" comment. No fuss no muss and mouths shut.
Blacklabel
Like Walz being a command sergeant major (he wasn’t- didn’t complete the requirements or the course), this is also not true.
avoiding a military deployment and abandoning your unit as a senior leader after receiving 24 years of easy National Guard paychecks is justified to “better serve in Congress?l”
what a joke and disrespect to our military.
it’s important because his whole “military man” and “Muh guns” persona (and that he has pets) is used to cover up that he is actually a radical far leftist.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Of twenty four years, yes. You can take off the quotes now.
bass4funk
She has some? Does she even know what the border is??
She absolutely was.
https://www.axios.com/2021/03/24/biden-harris-border-crisis
Blacklabel
then who was? She had never been to Europe either, but she went.
wallace
bass4funk
Walz retired two months before his unit received alert orders to deploy to Iraq.
He served 24 years.
lincolnman
Good choice Kamala....
Nice guy to have over for dinner. With JD, you'd have to hide your couches first...
And the MAGA-laugh-O-meter goes off the scale...
lincolnman
Musk is fighting to sell you an Tesla EV....you going to buy one? If not, why not?
Bob Fosse
Wow! We both asked Zibala the same question. Maybe we’ll get an answer.
I’ll update your 3 year old article with one from this week:
https://19thnews.org/2024/08/border-czar-kamala-harris-immigration-fact-check/
Some dude
I find the geographical aspect of US politics quite fascinating. The idea that if you don't choose a running mate who is (for instance) from the midwest, you have no chance of winning important states there. From that it could be interpreted that people in the midwest would willingly vote for Trump just out of spite, even if they don't like his policies. (If he has any. I'm not aware of any other than rage tweeting, but).
Setting aside the fact that to most outside observers it is absolutely baffling that this race is even being considered a race at all, do people really get that butthurt because "their" area isn't represented in either the presidential or vice presidential positions? I mean the US is a big place and you can't cover all the bases just with two people.
dagon
Walz seems to be hitting it off and Trump saying he and Harris are literally communists that will burn the country down is only going to hit with a small, older fanatic fringe.
And yes the rhetoric is weird, old red-baiting. Weird that Musk is in on it too now. But he became 'weird' for most a while ago.
Bernie was a hit with the young and mutliracial too and MAGA is looking ineffective with their campaign.
https://apnews.com/article/kamala-walz-vp-weird-trump-gen-z-f9d718890c3ca907f42dba5934075382
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/02/socialism-young-americans-bernie-sanders
bass4funk
Not even close, and not with his political baggage.
John
When one is talking about “ducking out” of an alert deployment 2 months AFTER retirement and whether paperwork constitutes retirement at Sargent Najor or Command Sargent Major, one is grasping at (paper) straws.
Cards fan
oh yes, that's why Trump praised his handling of the George Floyd protests.
Oh my God, free meals for kids, free college for the poor, and expanded access to healthcare that's terrible!
Strangerland
Yeah, everyone is like 'huh? what he just said is weird'.
lincolnman
I spent 27 years in uniform - and while Vance is a Yale-graduated, RINO Globalist parading around as a MAGA hillbilly from southern Ohio, I won't say anything critical of his four year Marine service - he served and should be commended for his sacrifice. The same with Walz who spent 24 years in the Guard and rose to the rank of Master Sergeant. The fact that Trump and Vance are now trying to denigrate his service just shows how desperate and pathetic they are - and has been mentioned, this from a guy that paid off a doctor to excuse him from the draft during Vietnam and who called our Vets "losers and suckers"...
I've know quite a few Master Sergeants - some like Walz that served as Command Sergeant Majors for their units - I dare any MAGA poster here to go up to Walz and say he ran out on his unit. Before you do, just make sure your Obamacare health insurance is up-to-date...
Strangerland
Shapiro wasn't "butthurt", and gave a speech in support of Harris/Walz. I don't see why anyone else would be "butthurt" if Shapiro wasn't "butthurt", when Shapiro would be the one who would have the most right to feel "butthurt" if there was any "buthurt" feeling to be had. But apparently this was choice made without any "butthurt".
"Butthurt".
Hervé L'Eisa
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, a far-left politician from a solidly blue state, pushed 11 policies into action as a governor with a Democrat legislature.
The policies indicate what ideas a potential Harris-Walz administration would prioritize if Democrats defeat former President Donald Trump in November.
The policies include:
Increasing taxes by adding a one percent surtax on net investment income above $1 million.
Making about 81,000 illegal migrants eligible for driver’s licenses.
Approving taxpayer funding for free college tuition for illegal migrants.
Designing a 20-week taxpayer-paid family and medical leave program.
Ordering that utilities generate 80 percent carbon-free electricity by 2030.
Using taxpayer funds to subsidize a mandate requiring electric vehicle charging stations with newly constructed buildings.
Stripping abortion laws, essentially allowing no limits and no age consideration for minors.
Ordering that Minnesota be a “trans refuge.”
Stripping election integrity laws by enacting automatic voter registration and a permanent absentee ballot option.
Signing a bill to require schools to stock period products in boys’ bathrooms.
Failing to allegedly anticipate and react to riots in Minneapolis after the death of George Floyd.
Honorable mention:
Walz attempted to cover up President Joe Biden’s state of fitness for office in January.
Also, Walz misrepresented the facts of his DUI arrest in Nebraska.
Strangerland
The right have to push fake-news far-right fear, because they don't have any policy to stand on.
Meanwhile, America loves Walz. He's America's dad.
Team Weird and Angry vs. Team Joyous Warrior
The Republicans are so screwed.
bass4funk
Their policies will, and that is frightening.
No red-baiting just going by their record, nothing more
Sanders will never be elevated to where he is at right now. Less socialism the better for society
Which has nothing to do with how he let the riots go on for 18 hours and Harris pushing to pardoning the thugs that caused havoc and destruction with these riots
Oh my God, free meals for kids, free college for the poor, and expanded access to healthcare that's terrible!
Not just that, but - Gave driver's licenses to illegal immigrants so they can vote
Wants to make MN a sanctuary state for illegals
$19B budget surplus squandered
Taxes raised by $10B
Went on a spending spree with Minnesota's taxpayer money that increased spending by nearly 50%
Taxed Minnesotans on COVID relief
Put tampons in boys' bathrooms
Allowed men in women's sports
Allowed children to permanently alter their bodies without parental consent.But yeah, let’s see how he defends his record when this comes up. Should be interesting. He can’t run from it, the left can’t hide it, ignoring it won’t help him. Best to address the issue because it’s coming. Nothing wrong or out of line debating what happened, it’s public record it’s indisputable and irrefutable.
lincolnman
Wanna know how bad things are in MAGA-world? They're now fighting and punching each other...
"A fight broke out at the opening of a Trump campaign office in Valdosta, Georgia, police have said. The incident took place last week when State Representative (R) John LaHood said he was approached by Republican activist Sam Carnline after speaking at the event, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/opening-of-trump-campaign-office-in-georgia-descends-into-chaos-with-fist-fight/ar-AA1olEej?ocid=windirect&cvid=d62f7a2c974b4ccfa86381217319b614&ei=51
Feed them enough faux outrage, and the MAGA-Masses will end up fighting one another - this while Trump disses fellow Repub Gov Brian Kemp…who he needs in this critical swing state...
It’s a MAGA self-implosion and shi^show…
Underworld
bass4funk
Fortunately, most of America thinks that these are good policies.
Even JD Vance pretends to.
bass4funk
Wow! For the record, I am actually shocked to the core that you for once have actually said something that wasn’t a typical derange personal attack on Trump or Conservatives, the usual daily diatribes of baseless so called humor and emotional attacks, I even gave you a thumbs up. You can actually have a serious debate. Good.
Blacklabel
His own men say he knew of the deployment and retired. “His right to do so” one of them said. I would definitely mention it to him to his face.
you won’t though. cause it’s politically inconvenient for you. But you served, you know how we feel about people who lie about ranks and deployment.
You also know (im assuming that you deployed) that you don’t just get orders to deploy without advance notice. Especially National Guard.
He heard it wasn’t Italy this time, and ducked out.
Strangerland
Yeah, MAGA won't vote for him. But there aren't enough of them to matter, and not enough of the people who matter are falling for Trump's campaign of fear.
And America loves Walz!
Blacklabel
He had no interest in deploying, yet I’ve heard he has been to China over 30 times. Seems the travel part wasn’t the issue of the deployment.
Strangerland
MAGA can put out their fake news of stolen valour all they want. In the meantime, the dems can point out the real news of an attempted stolen election.
And a guy who faked bonespurs to avoid the army.
And a weird guy who won't get off the couch to debate Walz.
plasticmonkey
--Harris wasn't the "border czar".
--Harris isn't a Marxist, and Walz isn't a socialist.
--Harris didn't "sleep her way to the top".
--Walz didn't "let Minneapolis burn to the ground".
--Harris didn't suddenly "become Black".
Trump and MAGA have nothing but lies, unfounded smears, and incredibly stupid hyperbole. As Adam Serwer wrote, and it's still as true as ever, for Trump "the cruelty is the point".
The Democrats have a positive vision for America. MAGA has nothing but fearmongering and demagoguery.
Hervé L'Eisa
Kamala Harris delivered a word salad at the Bon Iver concert.
“This election is about a question that we each face. We each face a question in this election,” Kamala Harris said.
This is why Kamala Harris has not spoken to the media in the last 17 days since she forced Joe Biden off the ballot.
Indeed, I have a question....
Strangerland
Harris/Walz are getting larger crowd sizes than Trump EVER got, much less on his once-a-week campaigns now that are half empty in the exact same venues as Harris is packing (the pics are proof).
And Trump is panicking - he's going nuclear on Walz. Problem is, everyone is numb to him now, and Walz is America's dad; the People love him, so Trump's attempted attacks are coming across as scared and weak.
Peter Neil
harris could have picked a cocker spaniel and it still would be a better vp than vance.
trumps rapid cognitive decline and vance’s eyeliner and weirdness, plus having no agenda except name calling and only one failed presidency won’t get them elected.
no matter what the maga kids write.
plasticmonkey
This is considered "clever" argumentation by MAGA sophists like Jesse Watters, Ted Cruz, JD Vance, and Blacklabel. Start the sentence with a supposition presented as a fact, and then pair it with an anecdote that is unrelated.
Walz has always had an interest in China. Doesn't make him a CCP puppet. And he doesn't have his own merch manufactured in China like Trump does.
Strangerland
It sounds like Trump finally realized how scared he looks by running away from the debates, now he's going to buckle to Kamala's demands.
Peter Neil
he taught in china.
he was the only democrat in congress to support human rights for hong kong and all of china.
i’ve been there probably close to same number of times for business going all the way back to 1981, when it was just buses and bicycles. there is nothing nefarious about me.
this is just such weak sauce by desperate maga kids.
ArtistAtLarge
This is getting good!
Strangerland
Even in the battleground states.
Trump is losing.
And then he's going to jail.
And then the Democratic sweep will enshrine reproductive rights in the law so the Republicans can't ban abortion again, taking away freedom from all women for a Republican religious crusade.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Focused on stolen valor while offering surrender abroad and shredding the Constitution at home. These people are just plain weird.
Simon Foston
Hervé L'EisaToday 09:05 am JST
Clearly her problem is that she's not a master of oratory such as yourself.
lincolnman
Here's the proof - MAGA-world has admitted it knows it's going to lose in Nov...
"Ohio Sen. JD Vance, Donald Trump's running mate, defended on Wednesday a false claim the former president made about Vice President Kamala Harris ' racial identity, suggesting wrongly that Harris had downplayed her Black heritage in trying to suggest she's inauthentic.
“What I took it as was an attack on Kamala Harris being a chameleon,” he told reporters when asked in Michigan about the former president's suggestion that Harris, the daughter of Jamaican and Indian immigrants, had only recently identified as Black."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/vance-other-trump-allies-amplify-212323219.html
No more outreach to independents and moderates - it's double-down on their white supremacist racist base...
Those not deep in the MAGA-cult laugh at JD - they know Kamala grew up in a Black neighborhood, went to a historical Black college, and was a member of the Congressional Black Caucus...
And this Yale-graduated "fake" hillbilly is questioning her credibility?
Hey JD, tell us once again what an "idiot" Trump is and how he is "morally reprehensible"....
Our MAGA-friends should be questioning whether JD is sufficiently MAGA - given his Trump slams and the fact his wife is non-Christian....
Antiquesaving
I don't know much or really care about Waltz but I would like to know on his government's Human rights act why it was so important for him and his party to has the following removed from the acts?
The argument made for removing this sentence was that pedophilia is already a crime so it was not needed.
But then the counter is that a challenge to laws using the HRA claiming the law violations the HRA.
Despite the extreme remoteness of and challenge or the HRA protecting pedophiles.
The question still remains, what was the need to remove that line and why fight its inclusion in the HRA?
If laws already made pedophilia illegal and the HRA wouldn't include protecting them did it really matter that it was doubly specified?
I would be interesting in his explanation.
lincolnman
Let’s see….
Mike Pence was hand-picked by Trump, is a Christian pastor, is anti-LBGTQ, hates globalism, and the worst thing he’s said about Trump is “we disagree”...
JD Vance graduated from Yale, is bi - couches and females, was a globalist venture capitalist, and compared Trump to Hitler and said he was an idiot…
And MAGA-world loves JD but wants to hang Mike and his family…
There’s only one word to describe that - MEGA-MAGA-WEIRD….
Cards fan
If anyone is interested the same sleazbag behind the original Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is also working for the Trump campaign.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/02/chris-lacivita-ran-one-of-american-politics-most-notorious-smear-campaigns-now-hes-working-for-trump/
burgers and beers
Is this Kamala plan to fight inflation flashback real? Wow.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6359957608112
lincolnman
Cue the gas going out of the MAGA-balloon...
Donald Trump praised Tim Walz’s response as Minnesota governor to civil justice protests in 2020, undercutting a Republican line of attack against the newly minted vice presidential candidate, according to a recording that emerged Wednesday.
Trump — who wanted state authorities to take tough measures to address the civil unrest that erupted around the nation in response to the killing by police of George Floyd in Minneapolis — told governors on a conference call that Walz responded well.
“I know Gov. Walz is on the phone, and we spoke, and I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days,” he said, according to a recording of the call obtained by ABC News.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/07/trump-praised-walz-2020-george-floyd-protests-00173152
How about those apples MAGA-friends...your guy PRAISED Walz....
Kind'a makes him look like a hypocritical flip-flopper if he goes back on them now, right?
ROFL...
lincolnman
So Vance was an E4 in the Marines and Walz was an E8...
In my military "old school" time, when the E4 screwed up and did something dumb, the "ole' Sarge" E8 would take him out behind the barracks and "teach him a lesson"....
I have no doubt the same thing will occur now...
Blacklabel
Walz knew of the deployment and ducked it
Bloomberg also just went back and stealth edited an article from 2004 that said Walz deployed to Iraq as part of Operation Enduring Freedom and the war on global terrorism.
Hey military expert guy, what’s the 2 things wrong with that claim?
Blacklabel
“The last couple of days”
meaning his response only AFTER letting the city burn for 4 days first. He did well after that to finish it up.
Cards fan
Trump new about the Vietnam War and he ducked it. Fact: Walz served 4 years passed retirement eligibility.
This isn't true either. He was a command seargant. That is irrefutable. The reason he retired an E-8 isn't because that was his final rank, but because he didn't complete all required training for E-9. Something else rightists got wrong. "Shocking."
lol really? The city burned for four days? We're back to this nonsense again? Rightists are so pathetic.
Blacklabel
so he lied about his rank, thanks. I assume if you know this that he also did, but said something else. Buuuuut Trump is unrelated.
it did. Over 2 billion in insured losses.
Cards fan
He did not lie. He was an E-9.
Actually he is because 1) He's listed in the article, 2) He faked bone spurs to avoid the draft, and 3) His campaign is now engaging in the same sleazy Swift Boat ads they used against Kerry.
lololl It didn't. We've already established this.
$800 million less than when the MAGA morons stormed the capital. Great argument.
Blacklabel
Walz also claimed he used weapons in war, despite ducking his war time deployment where members of his unit were killed.
was no war in Italy, the only deployment he joined.
rcch
Reporter: What’s your response to the stolen valor allegations?
Walz: ignores
Reporter: Sir! Your response to allegation of stolen valor!?
Walz: runs away
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The man who took Tim Walz’ place in combat deployment to Iraq after he suddenly betrayed his fellow guardsmen to run for Congress: “He abandoned us as soon the shots rang out in Iraq. What kind of leader does that?”
and
Vance walked up to Kamala's plane like a boss and asked her to talk without a script and to stop hiding from reporters—"*Hopefully it's going to be my plane in a few months. I also thought you guys may get lonely, because the VP doesn't answer questions from reporters." *Lmao.
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Note: Apparently, the only thing Harris/Walz are good at is running and hiding.
Cards fan
lol Oh yes, like a boss. He was told to back away from the plane like a boss, too. So cringey. Did you get this from Jesse Waters too?
NotThe One
More chronicles from the OLD and WEIRD!
Harris and Walz are playing chess while Trump and Vance are playing checkers.
LOL! Trump and Vance are OLD and WEIRD!
NotThe One
Walz will help Harris because he’s normal and likeable vs Trump / Vance the exact opposite and very 'weird' just like this stunt!
LOL! Trump and Vance are OLD and WEIRD!!
lincolnman
Someone is showing their military ignorance...he served in the POSITION of Command Sergeant Major for his Artillery Battalion - while as a Master Sergeant. Normal thing in the Army. Someone who had military service would know that....
So? Trump "fully agreed" with the way Walz responded - glad to see like with the vaccine, you think Trump was LYING...
bass4funk
Not in battleground states.
https://nypost.com/2024/08/07/us-news/trump-leads-harris-in-north-carolinas-first-statewide-poll-since-switch/
Trump outpolled Harris 44%-41% among 714 likely voters sampled between July 31 and Aug. 3.
Hardly, watch that change as soon as the debates happen.
And Hillary Clinton as well.
Interestingly, most Americans would rather starve than forgo abortion rights.
Strangerland
Vance and trump are scared because Walz is everthing they pretend to be.
Raw Beer
Here is something interesting she said on her way to Wisconsin:
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1457050818508604
Cards fan
At no point was Biden leading in North Carolina. Brilliant point.
Leading in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
NotThe One
The Harris/Walz merch just dropped, and MAGA is going to be sooooo mad!
Harris's new slogan:
'Not going back!'
Jimizo
Walz comes across a far better choice than Vance.
Vance is strange.
dagon
I am getting the impression that your grasp of rhetoric and semantics is, shall we say, imprecise @Hervé L'Eisa with you trying to make a point about Harris' rhetorical skills all the time.
Compare Harris to Trump:
Word salad hmm..
As they say, We Report, You decide.
Jimizo
The mind of an infant having a tantrum while going senile.
Quite the phenomenon.
Blacklabel
he retired as E-8 not an E-9 as he claimed.
why you ducking my question about Walz stolen valor claim to Bloomberg in 2004 that he deployed to Iraq for OEF in support of the GWOT? That’s an easy one.
NotThe One
@Bass
2 days ago:
1 day ago:
Today:
Cards fan
Right, because he didn't complete all the training he needed to retire as an E-9. That doesn't mean he wasn't an E-9.
Don't duck my questions. Only I can duck questions. reeee
Yawn. It isn't stolen valor no matter how many times the swift boat weirdos try it.
https://www.rawstory.com/news/jd-vance-tim-walz/
https://x.com/votevets/status/1821239321426338256
NotThe One
Republicans can always replace their OLD and WEIRD presidential candidate (Trump) with a WEIRD JD Vance, too if they like!
John
He’s probably go to spend the campaign chasing them around like an abandoned puppy chasing after the car.
Except one feels sympathy for the puppy.
John
Walz attained E-9. It’s documented. This is another swift boats smear, except now is not then and the slime balls who got away with it won’t this time.
bass4funk
Huh?
bass4funk
Yes, and watch that slip once Harris and Walz start debating.
lincolnman
He retired from an E9 position, at the rank of E8....you keep showing your military ignorance with every post...
Because it's so ridiculous it doesn't deserve answering....kind'a like you claiming you had military service...
And talk about ducking, what's up with Trump praising Walz's handling of the protests? Is he going to flip on those too? You know, you're favorite term - "flippety-floppety"?
NotThe One
@Bass...how will that happen if Trump is too afraid to stick to the debates agreed upon several months ago?
If Trump keeps running then polls just keep rising in Harris's favor, right?
bass4funk
Relax, it's coming
Well, they both have to debate, it's a two-way streak.
Blacklabel
So you don’t know.
Blacklabel
he said he retired AS an E9. After handling weapons IN WAR. Both false- along with his Iraq, OEF and GWOT claims.
bass4funk
If I were Dems, I would be more worried about the economy since that is the top issue, them not addressing it, just helps Trump.
It is already a mess, good luck for those that need it. I seriously doubt Obama uses it or anyone in Congress. Lol
John
Much like Trump’s health care plan or his infrastructure week, lol.
NotThe One
Blah, Blah, Blah..Red herring, red herring!
LOL!
Cards fan
Well that settles it, the only logical choice is to vote for the draft dodger Donald j. Trump. reeee
lincolnman
Lots of faux bluster, "just wait", and outright untruths from our MAGA-friends today - really shows the depth of their desperation and depression...a bigtime "Black and Funk" mood...
Well it is understandable - after ranting for two days now that Walz failed in his response to the Wisconsin protests they had to face the humiliating fact that Trump PRAISED Walz's handling of the protests.....
How's that for a self-own...
So now they're trapped in ANOTHER corner....
Was Trump correct with he praised Walz and they wrong in their criticism?
Or are our MAGA-friends right and Trump lying?
Or will Trump FLIP and retract this praise?
The only answer we'll get is "scroll up"....
NotThe One
Or the border wall paid for by Mexico!
Strangerland
Seems the republicans are hiding trump. No rallies at all.
Is he too tired? Too old? What does it say that the GoP is hiding him out of the public eye?
NotThe One
Now he is dodging a debate with Harris!
Cowardice is in Trump's DNA!
Cards fan
He's massive coward. His daddy was a coward. And so was his daddy's daddy. He comes from a long line of draft dodgers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump#:~:text=Soon%20after%20the%20family%20arrived,to%20banish%20Trump%20from%20Germany.
But draft dodging is "okay" now according to the right.
Bob Fosse
Harris was not in charge of border policy.
Complaining about it now is akin to complaining that 45 was in charge of Space Force (he wasn’t) and didn’t even go to space.
John
Nope, that’s your boi running from his agreement. Just like everything else he backs out of.
Strangerland
I thought the media was fake news? Why would she talk to them?
Why is trump afraid to “say it to her face”?
Is it because she’s ahead by 11 million?
NotThe One
Trump was president for 4 years with control of Congress for the first half and still could not solve the problem.
How much can the VP do?
Strangerland
Not as much as a president, and trump did nothing.
John
This false claim of stolen valor only draws more attention to cadet bone spurs ducking service in Vietnam on a made up excuse.
SHADY PRANCE, doesn’t have anything to say about that?
Shocker.
Strangerland
So was trump and he couldn’t do it either.
Strangerland
Have you seen the dancers at her rallies? So fun.
Or you could go listen to right wing anger and doom. And no laughing. And weird.
John
Border crossings are now 1/2 what they were under Trump.
huh.
Strangerland
The media:
Walz: Big Dad Energy
Vance: Weird
Kamala: Laugs
Trump: Never has. Weird.
Strangerland
Yeah trump was pretty weak. Biden got a bipartisan bill put together.
Strangerland
then trump has no excuses either.
weak.
John
Its not allowed to duck out of the draft by paying off a Dr to report non-existent bone spurs, but damned it Trump didn’t do exactly that.
Strangerland
Yup. He’s pretty weird.
bass4funk
Not in our system of government, maybe in your country, but if the House won't fund his initiatives, DOA. And an executive won't help either.
Strangerland
Being brat.
funkymofo
The momentum has shifted. Trump is yesterday's man.
Strangerland
Not with a weak leader like trump.
remember, Biden did something trump was too weak to: got a bipartisan border bill.
President Kamala will sign it.
Strangerland
Any links to any non far right media claiming the liberal media is panicked?
Cards fan
Totally. This will go down about like every other prediction the righties here have made.
Yeah, they really should have vetted Vance better. What a weird, weird dude. One of the most unpopular VP candidates ever.
Bob Fosse
Attacking Walz’s obvious military credentials. Weird.
Supporting a candidate who is not allowed to touch a firearm or join the US military due to felony convictions. Super weird. And hypocritical.
plasticmonkey
Guess you didn't read the story, or you don't know how to read a story.
"President Biden has tapped Vice President Harris to lead the administration’s efforts to stem the flow of migrants seeking entry to the U.S. at the southern border and to form partnerships with Mexico and the Northern Triangle countries aimed at addressing the root causes of the surge in immigration."
That's not a "border czar".
Strangerland
Yup: win.
Blacklabel
where did I admit this? You could stop making things up and just take the L.
you sound like you didn’t get promoted and HYT forced you out early. But hey at least you should have PX/BX or NEX/commissary privileges here in Japan. Unless you don’t know what that is either- like OEF.
bass4funk
Yes, she was put in charge, that is the border czar or person responsible, she failed, that's on record. Want to dig a deeper hole or what now?
NotThe One
Harris/Walz has a positive and hopeful message.
The opposition has a negative message from an OLD, WEIRD, and NASTY (hiding in his basement at Mar La Go with stolen government documents) and his WEIRD running mate.
The Democrats will win the 2024 presidential election!
lincolnman
On this thread - scroll UP!
You were the one that "made up" you were in the military...
ROFL...
I wonder if he plays soldier with little green men too...
Bob Fosse
No. No she wasn’t.
Why did you spend so long blaming Biden and Myorkas and now suddenly decide Harris was to blame?
Weird timing.
plasticmonkey
Just smell the panic coming from the MAGA cult. Going after:
--Walz's commendable military history
--Walz's DUI from 30 years ago, after which he quit drinking
--Walz's (Trump-commended) actions as governor during the George Floyd protests
--Harris' laugh and overall cheerfulness
--Harris as a "DEI hire"
--Harris as an unqualified woman who "slept her way to the top"
--Both of them as far left Marxists or socialists (take your pick)
Strangerland
The republicans have a tired old man at their head, who is hiding with tiny campaign rallies running a campaign of anger, doom, and weird.
The Democrats are fun, with an excellent economy.
Simple choice.
bass4funk
No panic, just pure opportunity
Strangerland
The Daily Show has a great skit tonight making fun of Republicans calling any Democrat a socialist, Marxist or Liberal.
It’s making fun of how weird they are.
Strangerland
All the neutral media is reporting the stolen valour lies as far-right disinformation. A trump team lie.
bass4funk
So not that many
funkymofo
The stench of maga panic is as pungent as one of donnie's diapers.
John
Shady Prance changed his name THREE times. Four different names.
sounds like he has identity issues.
Again, weird.
ClippetyClop
Scroll up, I didn't say it would. It would be brilliant if he was though, him being a career crook and proud sexual predator.
Then again you said he wouldn't be convicted.
burgers and beers
"And he was deployed to Italy as part of the Afghanistan War."
I heard Italy was a really dangerous place during the Afghanistan War. Amalfi saw a lot of action. Is that true?
WoodyLee
Best of luck to VP Harris and Mr. Walz, can't wait to see them lead.