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Democrats defy 'red wave' forecasts to keep Senate control; eye Georgia

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Candidate quality matters: anti-semites, election deniers, conspiracy whack-jobs and (soon) illiterate absentee “fathers” need not apply.

And policy matters. The public doesn’t like rights-denying zealots (especially when they’ve paid for abortions themselves). Gen Z doesn’t like politicians who make gays feel like 2nd class citizens and who stand by while school shooting after school shooting occurs.

The voters saw the freak-show that the GQP was offering and said, “nope, don’t need anymore of that.”

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Pelosi attributed her party's performance to Democratic candidates knowing their districts and maintaining focus on the issues voters cared about even as pundits in Washington predicted big losses and called for a change in approach.

Unfortunately, one lesson Pelosi and the neo-liberal leadership of the Democratic party refuse to learn is that the democratic socialist politicians like AOC and Bernie are wildly popular and their influence is growing.

https://wfin.com/fox-political-news/aoc-and-the-squad-set-to-welcome-new-members-after-progressive-wins-in-multiple-states/

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Unfortunately, one lesson Pelosi and the neo-liberal leadership of the Democratic party refuse to learn is that the democratic socialist politicians like AOC and Bernie are wildly popular and their influence is growing.

I think you greatly over rate the degree of influence AOC and Mr. Sanders have. They command a narrow audience even in the Democratic Party. They are absolutely radioactive to voters in much of the US outside a few big liberal cities. I live in Kevin McCarthy's district unfortunately due to having a job that is impossible to have anywhere else, and know first hand how much of the red states feel about them. This is a place, shocking to me when I moved here, where people still use the N word freely, use derogatory terms to describe Native Americans, and where you can buy a purse that is "perfect for concealed carry". It's an alternative universe for someone raised in one of the big liberal cities, but pretty standard for much of the US outside those cities. You are never going to elect someone like AOC or Mr. Sanders to a national office. And for good reason, they do not advocate anything that helps rural America. They are focused on the matters of big liberal cities and utterly ignorant of the problems facing rural America, while Repubes address at least the fears of rural Americans in language, often racially loaded language, they understand quite well.

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It was a disaster for the Republican Party. Absolute disaster. Some of them were saying beforehand that they expected a 70 seat majority in the House and that they were going to _astrate both Biden's Presidency and Democratic dreams. Well, the Republican majority is minuscule. Also, among the 200-some Republicans in the House of Representatives, there will be some with open minds who will occasionally support Democrat legislation - two sides will talk. But there will be very few of them - maybe 10-15 among the Republican caucus. This election was a humiliation for the party's members. And they still have Donald Trump "hanging over their heads."

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The last two elections alone, the Republicans have lost by more than 10 million combined votes. They haven't won the popular vote since 2004. The only reason Republicans have had any power at all since the early 2000s, is due to gerrymandering and the disproportion of vote value through the disproportion of the electoral college.

The point of the above is that it's clear America doesn't like or want the Republicans. The Republicans don't represent Americans, or American values. They're just pretty good at stoking fear, and political manipulation. But it's clear they are not actually in line with American values.

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It was a disaster for the Republican Party. Absolute disaster.

And this isn’t just us saying it. It’s Elected Republicans, RNC officials, Republican Strategists and (gasp) the talking heads on Faux “news”, the Murdoch controlled NYpost, WSJ, …. Basically everyone but our rear-guard cul-, er “party” stalwarts.

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Unfortunately, one lesson Pelosi and the neo-liberal leadership of the Democratic party refuse to learn is that the democratic socialist politicians like AOC and Bernie are wildly popular and their influence is growing.

I think you greatly over rate the degree of influence AOC and Mr. Sanders have. They command a narrow audience even in the Democratic Party.

You're correct about the level of influence they actually pedal. They are essentially the moral voice of the party - pushing the issues that move a progressively liberal society forward, whereas the bulk of the party temper that with the realities of running a nation. However, the moral voices are often the loudest voices, making them heard the most by the right, as well as making them a perfect target for right-wing fear-based extremist politics. The loud voices on the far left become fuel for the right-wing Fear Media, whereas the balanced voices on the left would put out the fires. So the right-wing Fear Media focuses exclusively on the AOC et all, in the pursuit their culture war.

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No, unfortunately none of us can assure you that. It looks pretty likely, but none of us can see the future.

I thought someone more knowledgeable about US justice and how long it takes to work through would be able to. I'm sure a regular person who had done the same would be incarcerated by now.

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I thought someone more knowledgeable about US justice and how long it takes to work through would be able to. I'm sure a regular person who had done the same would be incarcerated by now.

The world isn't fair.

And again, none of us can see the future.

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Herschel Walker is proof of the GOP's moral bankruptcy.

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Democrats took a victory lap on Sunday after retaining control of the U.S. Senate, defying Republican hopes for a "red wave" in the midterm elections, and turned their attention to Georgia where a run-off contest could strengthen their hand in Congress.

Most American Republicans did not believe the Senate would be gained.

MAGA!

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I'm looking forward to what happens next as the GOP gears up for the next election. Rather than celebrating a victory in the midterms, they're going to go in for bitter recriminations and civil war. Trump won't back down, even though the Murdoch press has dumped Trump.

The Party knows the wind has changed, but the MAGA masses will retain loyalty.

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You are never going to elect someone like AOC or Mr. Sanders to a national office. And for good reason, they do not advocate anything that helps rural America.

Thanks for the reasoned response that is often lacking in recent American political discourse.

Let me parse that though as someone who lived in both rural and urban settings in the US through the US Mil-industrial complex.

The working class white majority in the US has been marginalized and propagandized to vote against their economic interests by the corporate-funded media.

Using historical racism and new political-economic fears.

But I would say proposals like guaranteed work for a living wage that would build infrastructure as Sanders proposes , if it could get past the neo-liberal corporate funded gatekeepers, would be wildly popular in Red States.

Bernie Sanders proved that with his match-ups against Trump, that is what the rightists fear.

Tax the rentiers and corporations in line with what workers pay, and use that to fund a New Deal rebuilding of the US infrastructure.

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"Red Wave" What a losers, LOOOOOOL !!!..

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Most American Republicans did not believe the Senate would be gained.

I'll bet they didn't believe they'd be able to only barely take the house either. :D

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I thought we would win the Senate too and we should have based in history and the reality of how bad things actually are in USA.

Somehow history and reality are no longer good ways to evaluate anything,

i also didn’t get the memo that republicans decided to sacrifice the midterm election as a way to try to blame trump to prevent 2024.

the silence from all the RINOs about the vote counting makes that clear.

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Only three times in the past 100 years has the party out of power done this poorly in the midterms, and the other times it was due to extremely popular presidents in the ruling party. This time was historic because it was entirely a result of the right sh*tting the bed, rather then democratic competence.

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I thought we would win the Senate too and we should have based in history and the reality of how bad things actually are in USA.

Yup, and the GOP didn't. I guess "we don't need policies, because the Democrats are bad" didn't really work out for the GOP, huh?

Somehow history and reality are no longer good ways to evaluate anything,

Yeah, maybe don't try and topple Democracy, or maybe don't overturn Roe v. Wade?

i also didn’t get the memo that republicans decided to sacrifice the midterm election as a way to try to blame trump to prevent 2024.

lol Trump isn't broadly popular. I think the GOP would have done better had Trump not campaigned for Republicans in the days before the midterms.

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Only three times in the past 100 years has the party out of power done this poorly in the midterms

Proving my point.

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The last two elections alone, the Republicans have lost by more than 10 million combined votes. They haven't won the popular vote since 2004. The only reason Republicans have had any power at all since the early 2000s, is due to gerrymandering and the disproportion of vote value through the disproportion of the electoral college.

Very true. They look at the Repubs and see a party ranting about immigration and crime....and then see their own chosen leader hiring illegal immigrant labor at his hotels and golf courses...and see this same leader committing crime after crime from stealing and concealing Top Secret information to pardoning convicted felons... And the whole immigration argument is used merely to promote the racist "Replacement Theory" that resonates with their far-right white supremacy constituency...

The non-cult members of the Repub party clearly see what happened - and know that the reasons for their failure on Nov 9th were entirely self-inflicted...

1) Donald Trump, and his promotion of flawed, radical, incompetent candidates at every level - and his narcissistic fixation with the past, with zero discussion of the future...

2) Samuel Alito, who's "Handmaiden's Tale" decision with regards to a women's rights over her own body energized just not Dem women, but Repub and Independent too...

The Repub party tried to kick its Trump meth habit after Jan 6th, but like most addicts, they failed at their Rehab. With Murdoch turning on Trump, it looks like they may try again. The rehab "civil war" will be interesting to watch...

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Proving my point.

Except the only point it proves is that Americans don't want the Republicans, and the Republican party does not represent the interests of America. They have lost by over 18 million votes in the last three elections. The Republican party is a complete and utter failure.

And I'm pretty sure that wasn't the point you were trying to make.

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There was no fraud in 2020 or today. It’s just a fever dream lie that gullible rubes lapped up.

And the voters looked at the big lie whack jobs and said “Hard pass.”

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Americans don't want the Republicans, and the Republican party does not represent the interests of America. 

Republicans got 5 million more votes in house races than democrats did.

so there is that.

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It's sad the GOP leaders saying 'we need to have a real discussion' over the midterm disaster, but for us who have seen the lies continue on and on from the GOP, leading to the election of their leader in gaslighting Trump, it is simple. Qualities one would want to teach one's own children are being ignored and promoted by the GOP leaders and conservatives, everywhere.

They lie. Constantly. See Fox. They conspire and follow those conspiracies as truth. See Alex Jones and his popularity. The popularity of Tucker Carlson. And his ridiculous lies and justifications that make no sense, at all. They're racist. Often giving the lamest excuses saying they are not when obviously they are. They bully. Trump's name calling, bullying and ____ grab, they love it...all that stuff are things a kid in a good school gets a few days off and if it continues, they get kicked out. Pretty much every good quality of a human being is opposite to conservatives in 2022.

What the conservatives need to do is look at themselves, understand their behavior is unacceptable as human beings and not just particularly under the constitution of the United States, just as people. They have to reboot their morality and quit having juvenile behavior with stupid answers to questions. They lie so much, they cannot critical think, something that is based on true information.

They sound like people who literally have mental incapacities and follow those incapacities as if that's the way it's supposed to be. ie, they are not dumb, but sensibility is non existent and insane.

They need sanity before discussing any strategy to right conservatism. Really, any party that would follow Trump and thug behavior needs to figure itself out. We've compared him to a mafia boss, but that's really doing the mafia boss bad, because at least he would have a code. Trump's is all about lies, trying to gaslight everyone, of which was a temporary success, until some of the Republicans finally figured out he was a bad dude, but they're so into lies, they themselves cannot quit.

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Blacklabel

the House election is not decided by the popular vote.

House democrats 206. House Republicans 211.

The GAP is closing for the GOP.

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Fox business broadcast a long diatribe from Paul Ryan attacking Trump. Previously supportive and neutral commentators piled on telling us how horrible Trump suddenly is?

At the end one of them said “as full disclosure Paul Ryan is on the board of directors of Fox News”. Then they looked at each other and moved on. Was quite odd, like done under duress.

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Republicans got 5 million more votes in house races than democrats did.

so there is that.

Funny how you never mentioned how Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million. The popular vote didn’t seem that important to you back then.

The fact is your party underperformed at the House, Senate, Governor and state legislature levels.

Abortion rights (which you were so derisive of) were upheld in ca, MI, KS, and KY.

There will likely be more Democratic Senators than there are now. The House, while likely to turn a pinkish-red, still hasn’t been decided. Certainly it won’t be anything like a governing majority - not with the lunatics that make up that cult, er… “caucus.”

And MAGA Moron after MAGA moron got shown the door. (We will circle around to Gun Barbie Boebert next cycle, but even for CO 3, her act is getting old.)

And it’s all due to the orange blob. “So hop on the Trump train, you’re going losing. We will stop at Indictment-land, loserville, conviction heights, Leavenworth KS, and butboi valley before the final stop at the deepest darkest circle of Hell.”

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I especially love the part about how people who claim election fraud with no evidence are finally treated like the mentally I’ll uncle at the family gathering by both the public and the media, even Faux “news.”

Not a hard position to take considering that there was no election fraud on any organized scale: none, Nada, nil, zero, zilch, zip.

No “illegals” voting. No dead people voting. Hugo Chavez is not corrupting the vote since he’s been dead for 14 years. No Italian spy satellite changing votes. No bamboo fake ballots. None of that happened and those who continue to claim the election was stolen are being shunned as they should be.

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And the circus continues.

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Its not half. Its only half in the addled minds of Trump's cult rubes.

EVEN if its 1/2 of the GQP (ITS NOT), that would be 50% of 24% of the general electorate, or 12%, or about the same percentage as believe in the tooth fairy (for which there is at least as much evidence.)

To argue that something for which there is zero evidence, for which 60+ courts have said is totally without merit, for which no recount or theory has held up is to mark oneself as an unserious person unworthy of participating in actual debate.

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Anyway after 1-2 more weeks of vote dumps maybe we find out who won.

the house majority still comes with subpoena power and committee chairmanships. Even if it’s only a 1 seat win.

will republicans win someday? Not at the rate they are slow counting.

But don’t worry Trumps big announcement is coming soon for you to obsess over.

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Something for everyone to rejoice about. The Dems got the House and the Dems retain the Senate, each got something and not everyone got what they wanted.

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But don’t worry Trumps big announcement is coming soon for you to obsess over.

Wow, the MAGA-world pile on of Trump continues...

You don't get more MAGA than Candace Owens; Conservative firebrand Candace Owens says Trump being rude to her made her realize he's vengeful, paranoid, and lacked humility. Owens also said that Trump is "holding onto a vengeful spirit" and appears to lack a vision for 2024.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/conservative-firebrand-candace-owens-says-110944059.html

Then there's MAGA-world hero Mo Brooks: Rep. Mo Brooks, who just two years ago was one of former President Donald Trump's most ardent congressional supporters, said in a recent interview that it would be a "bad mistake" for the GOP to nominate him as the party's 2024 presidential nominee, while also describing him as "dishonest" and "incompetent."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-rep-mo-brooks-says-195130919.html

That's on top of conservative icon Ann Coulter saying yesterday Trump should *"just shut the #$%^ up".**..

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ann-coulter-blames-trump-gop-050902267.html

No wonder he is "livid", "furious", and "screaming at everyone"...at Mar-A-Lago...

https://people.com/politics/trump-reportedly-livid-screaming-after-midterm-election-results/

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The loud voices on the far left become fuel for the right-wing Fear Media, whereas the balanced voices on the left would put out the fires. So the right-wing Fear Media focuses exclusively on the AOC et all, in the pursuit their culture war.

Thanks for the cogent response @Strangerland.

Agreed but the problem is, as we can see in microcosm on this board and on the macro scale with Trump and the alt-right, is that even the bulk of the liberal wing of the party, with their mild proposals, get labeled " far-left, radical,Marxists" by the demagogues.

They are determined to push the Overton Window of discourse to the right. So that even universal healthcare or a living wage becomes "socialist, Marxist, Stalinist". Poisoning the well as it were.

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Something for everyone to rejoice about. The Dems got the House and the Dems retain the Senate, each got something and not everyone got what they wanted.

BINGO! Thank you for admitting that Repubs lost both the House and Senate!

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I especially love the part about how people who claim election fraud with no evidence are finally treated like the mentally I’ll uncle at the family gathering by both the public and the media, even Faux “news.”

Not a hard position to take considering that there was no election fraud on any organized scale: none, Nada, nil, zero, zilch, zip.

Actually there was an attempt at election fraud on a grand scale, on January 6th, by the Repubes. Like much in life the people who cry the loudest wrong are usually the ones who are guiltiest of the wrong doing they are complaining about.

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Something for everyone to rejoice about. The Dems got the House and the Dems retain the Senate, each got something and not everyone got what they wanted.

Yeah sure, because that is EXACTLY the result that you were predicting/ hoping for, right?

Right, election denial, red-wave, MAGA B?

LOL.

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the people who cry the loudest wrong are usually the ones who are guiltiest of the wrong doing they are complaining about.

kinda like the liberals/Dems and the "threat to democracy" cries?

But taking a week or more to count votes is not a threat to democracy at all, right?

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the House election is not decided by the popular vote.

And not decided by your vote, because you can't vote.

Like the rightist "Obama is a Muslim form Kenya" and the usual corporate funded conservative static managed to bankrupt the American people.

The perspective from people outside the US on the US political process is informative because it can show that caring for workers instead of corporations is not "Stalinist" and is a tactic just to push the Overton window of politics in the US to the right.

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I especially love the part about how people who claim election fraud with no evidence are finally treated like the mentally I’ll uncle at the family gathering by both the public and the media, even Faux “news.”

Not a hard position to take considering that there was no election fraud on any organized scale: none, Nada, nil, zero, zilch, zip

I noticed that. There have been a few pathetic mumblings about how ‘slow’ the process is, but the stolen election types are shrinking away like you know what in cold water.

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But taking a week or more to count votes is not a threat to democracy at all, right?

The election In Arizona is being run by Republicans. Or are they also in on the “fraud”?

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bass4funk

you must be so disappointed. Anyway, there is always 2028 to look forward to.

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Digital votes and the count would be over.

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Herschel Walker is proof of the GOP's moral bankruptcy.

Republicans in Georgia were willing to overlook Walker’s moral baggage and incompetence in order to win the Senate. Now that the Democrats have taken the Senate, red voters will be far less enthusiastic about supporting Walker in the runoff.

Question is, who’s gonna stump for him? Will it be the Whiner in Chief whose popularity is going down the drain quickly? Or will it be Rock Star Ronny, who might be wary of wasting his political capital on a basket case candidate like Herschel Walker?

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JimizoToday  11:28 am JST

I noticed that. There have been a few pathetic mumblings about how ‘slow’ the process is, but the stolen election types are shrinking away like you know what in cold water.

Yes, Abrams accepted her second loss this time.

She is a Democrat,

In Georgia.

it's a big state.

North of Florida, which turned RED.

https://news.yahoo.com/stacey-abrams-playbook-crying-stolen-103051439.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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BINGO! Thank you for admitting that Repubs lost both the House and Senate!

I never said they lost the House, they also didn’t lose the Senate because they didn’t have it.

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Yeah sure, because that is EXACTLY the result that you were predicting/ hoping for, right? 

No hope, just stating the fact. We both got something. Yippie!

Right, election denial, red-wave, MAGA B? 

LOL.

I love the part where Biden begs Kevin for a buck. Lol

you must be so disappointed.

We got the House, no reason to be disappointed.

Anyway, there is always 2028 to look forward to.

Naw, looking for 2024

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The election In Arizona is being run by Republicans.

Not quite entirely.

Or are they also in on the “fraud”?

Hmmm

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BINGO! Thank you for admitting that Repubs lost both the House and Senate!

I never said they lost the House, they also didn’t lose the Senate because they didn’t have it.

Really? Here is your post;

*Bass: "Something for everyone to rejoice about. The Dems got the House and the Dems retain the Senate, each got something and not everyone got what they wanted."*

So if the Dems won the House, who lost? You said the Dems won both the House and Senate...

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Trump resorts to Anti-Asian slurs for the second time in three days in a Truth Social post torching McConnell and his Wife.

Trump’s nickname for Elaine Chao — who served as the ex-president’s Secretary of Transportation — is a reprisal of the racist slur he used against her as part of a rant about her husband back in September, which was broadly condemned at the time. The renewed use of anti-Asian slurs comes just two days after Trump went after Glenn Youngkin by remarking that his last name “sounds Chinese.” The insult was largely brushed off by Youngkin.

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*Bass: "Something for everyone to rejoice about. The Dems got the House and the Dems retain the Senate, 

Typo, my bad.

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House and Senate Republicans are gearing up for a tense series of closed-door meetings this week as the GOP grapples with what went wrong in the midterms and decides the political fate of its current leaders, who are under fire following last week’s disappointing election results.

As they should

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Trump resorts to Anti-Asian slurs for the second time in three days in a Truth Social post torching McConnell and his Wife.

Well, that’s not right.

Trump’s nickname for Elaine Chao — who served as the ex-president’s Secretary of Transportation — is a reprisal of the racist slur he used against her as part of a rant about her husband back in September, which was broadly condemned at the time.

The slur don’t agree with, the woman for what she has done to work both sides of the political fence I find very disturbing. I wouldn’t trust her with my wallet.

The renewed use of anti-Asian slurs comes just two days after Trump went after Glenn Youngkin by remarking that his last name “sounds Chinese.” The insult was largely brushed off by Youngkin.

Good, and would have done the same.

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Bass: "Something for everyone to rejoice about. **The Dems got the House and the Dems retain the Senate,*** 

Typo, my bad.

Really? I thought you didn't make mistakes? Sure it wasn't a Freudian slip?

I'd say it's the most accurate prediction you've made since 2014..

ROFL...

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Should the Republicans take the House, I wonder what promises McCarthy will make with the Democrats to become Speaker of the House. Especially if he runs for Speaker against Trump.

One does not have to be an elected Representative to be elected Speaker.

America, what a country!

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And it's just not the MAGA-end of the Repub party roasting Trump....

Former Vice President Mike Pence said then-President Donald Trump “endangered me and my family and everyone at the Capitol building” with his words and actions during the Jan. 6 riot in 2021. During the height of the melee inside and outside the Capitol, Trump tweeted: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.” Asked about that tweet by Muir, Pence said: “It angered me, but I turned to my daughter, who was standing nearby, and I said, ‘It doesn’t take courage to break the law. It takes courage to uphold the law.’”

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/13/pence-trump-endangered-me-and-my-family-00066676

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, on Sunday aired frustration at former President Donald Trump’s role in last week’s midterm elections. “It’s basically the third election in a row that Donald Trump has cost us the race, and it’s like, you know — three strikes, you’re out,” 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/13/larry-hogan-trump-election-record-00066633

More ketchup being thrown at the walls in Mar-A-Lago....

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Really? *

Yup.

I thought you didn't make mistakes?

I’m not God.

Sure it wasn't a Freudian slip?

Nope.

I'd say it's the most accurate prediction you've made since 2014..

No, more like 2011 and 2014

ROFL...

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well, well. Republicans are leading in at least 9 of the remaining races. 212+9= ?

Wonder when the media is going to get around to "calling" those races and at least announcing winners where 95%+ of the vote is already in.

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The Republican House majority is going to be very small. Not what was predicted.

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Yet still a majority of about the save size as Dems used to have.

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yet still a majority of about the save size as Dems used to have

With one small caveat: while the Democratic Caucus was idiologically "diverse" and there was some amount of in-fighting and cajoling to get things done, Nancy got things done.

With this Cult, er "caucus" of absolute lunatics, Q-spouters, election deniers, Koch industry sychopants and general morons, Kevin will get NOTIHNG done. He will be a SINO - a Speaker in name only.

He doesn't currently have the votes and given the promises that Jewish Space Lazer/Klan mom Greene et al are demanding for their support, he may not GET the votes.

While this is highly unlikely, it is possible that a group of moderates (small in number though they are) may look at the things the nut-job caucus is demanding, say "I am not down with this" and cross the asile for a Unity Figure as speaker.

Boy wouldn't that put a bee in the MAGA bonnet?

Again, not very likely, but more likely than this insane asylum getting any meaningful work done. And a man can dream....

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well, well. Republicans are leading in at least 9 of the remaining races. 212+9= ?

Far from ‘glorious’. Still, well done I suppose.

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glorious enough.

any win is glorious is it not?

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any win is glorious is it not?

lol No. Most Republicans thought they'd pick up more seats than they have.

Certain posters were saying Democrats should be "very afraid," and this is hardly scary.

Like, this is the big red wave? lolol If they manage to win the districts they're winning now, they'll have a one seat majority. This was a big flop, and any rightists who doesn't understand this is in denial.

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Yet still a majority of about the save size as Dems used to have.

2006: Dems picked up 31 House seats.... (Repub President)

2010: Repubs picked up 63 House seats.... (Dem President)

2014: Repubs picked up 13 House seats... (Dem President)

2018: Dems pick up 41 House seats... (Repub President)

2022: Dems KEEP Senate and Repubs pick up 7 seats and have only a 4 seat Majority? (Dem President)

Red Wave? Red Tsunami? Red Hurricane? More like "Red-Faced"....ROFL..

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The Republican House majority is going to be very small. Not what was predicted.

Yup, but still able to block Biden’s disastrous and wasteful spending, so that’s a win and a relief for mankind

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a win is a win. even 1 seat.

although Repubs are in the lead for 9 more seats, I imagine they will again lose at the 96% mark for a few more, right?

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any win is glorious is it not?

Good lord no.

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BlacklabelToday  01:01 pm JST

glorious enough.

any win is glorious is it not?

Kevin McCarthy should be a shoo-in for House Speaker then, shouldn't he.

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Yup, but still able to block Biden’s disastrous and wasteful spending, so that’s a win and a relief for mankind

lol Most voters don't support your radical rightwing agenda. I can't wait for Republicans to run again on the platform of, "hey, we're not Democrats" in two years. Maybe it'll work better next time around? I doubt it, though.

a win is a win. even 1 seat.

Yes, a tiny miniscule win. By one seat. Congratulations. It's an amazing accomplishment. Is this what we were supposed to be "afraid of?"

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Yup, but still able to block Biden’s disastrous and wasteful spending, so that’s a win and a relief for mankind

If EVERY SINGLE ONE of Kevin's "Caucus" votes in line with his wishes, then yes.

What are the odds of that? Not very high.

There will be GOP reps that are actually in DC to get things done. They will cross the asile if the bill meets their needs and the GQP "leadership" won't be able to do a damn thing about it. LOL.

THEN what will your excuse be?

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With one small caveat: while the Democratic Caucus was idiologically "diverse"

As are the Republicans.

and there was some amount of in-fighting and cajoling to get things done, Nancy got things done.

Give Kevin a chance, he’ll manage as well.

With this Cult, er "caucus" of absolute lunatics, Q-spouters, election deniers, Koch industry sychopants and general morons, Kevin will get NOTIHNG done. He will be a SINO - a Speaker in name only. 

Say the people that wouldn’t accept the 2016 election results and thinking that renewable energy will save humanity and be t week fossil fuels will be a thing of the past and that men and women are an imaginary construct.

He doesn't currently have the votes and given

He will

While this is highly unlikely, it is possible that a group of moderates (small in number though they are) may look at the things the nut-job caucus is demanding, say

Will the Squad ever come to their radical senses and will people stop heckling them? Seems like it’s getting weirder with these radical leftists.

"I am not down with this" and cross the asile for a Unity Figure as speaker. *

Biden wanted bipartisan unity and he never kept his word, why?

Boy wouldn't that put a bee in the MAGA bonnet?

What?

Again, not very likely, but more likely than this insane asylum getting any meaningful work done.

Dems got a lot done as well, that’s why the voters decided to award them by firing them. There goes that insane theory

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bass4funk

   The Republican House majority is going to be very small. Not what was predicted.

> Yup, but still able to block Biden’s disastrous and wasteful spending, so that’s a win and a relief for mankind

The problem with your tiny majority there will be times when your own representatives don't agree with the floor and will support the democrats. Only needs a few. Some could even change sides if they don't like Trump.

The Republicans backed Biden's $1 trillion bill.

You were predicting a massive defeat and you were surfing on the fake big red wave.

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Trump carries the can for the failures. He will probably use it to collect donations.

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a win is a win. even 1 seat.

Indeed - thank you RINOs! We despised you yesterday but we love you today!

Tomorrow when you call Trump a loser we'll despise you again...

ROFL...

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There will be GOP reps that are actually in DC to get things done. They will cross the asile if the bill meets their needs and the GQP "leadership" won't be able to do a damn thing about it. LOL.

THEN what will your excuse be?

I have yet to see the Dems come out with some reasonable legislation that Americans benefit from and not to fulfill the Dreams of their radicals. At least the new house will have oversight now to keep these people in check.

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Desert Tortoise, I’m the exact opposite of you. Raised in an area just like where you are now then moved out into the City. You’re spot on.

Dagon, you guys don’t have the numbers you think you do. At least not yet. You’re at least 2 presidential cycles shy, and at present you are what is keeping MAGA in the game. I’m well aware that red America has no clue what socialism actually is, but will tell you it doesn’t matter one iota. The word is toxic in red America. We had “Kill a Commie for Mommy” posters on our walls where I was raised.

i’m not certain y’all comprehend the bullet…oh, hell that’s too weak, the artillery barrage, you just dodged. Had this Red Wave materialized the way it was predicted, they were coming for you. The whole purpose of Bannon’s plan to put Trump operatives in all the vote certification positions was to install him in power regardless of actual election results so they could kill you in the cradle. Take a moment to imagine the Floyd protests with Mike Flynn or Tom Cotton in charge of DHS…That’s what you just dodged. I would encourage you guys to tread gently, because if you don’t and ya get DeSatantis elected with a Red Congress, it could still happen. You need to slowly and patiently try to win the argument while boomers raised in the Cold War on anti-communism die off and your people enter voting age. If you push your luck your gonna sorely wish you hadn’t. PLEASE do not make the mistake of assuming this repudiation of Trumpism is an endorsement of your argument. I assure you, it is no such thing. Please allow us worthless sell out moderates to protect your rights. You absolutely can make that impossible if you play your cards wrong. (Forcing people to accept gender as an artificial social construct is exhibit 1 of playing your cards wrong. I could continue, but hopefully you can figure out the rest on your own. Ask moderate sell-outs Bill Maher, James Carville or Dave Chappelle if you have any questions.) I’m no longer with with Red America but am of Red America and understand what has been provoked, and it utterly terrifies me.

Us worthless sell out moderates are keeping you alive. You’d be wise to realize that. Your opponents on the other side are deadly serious about this “defending real America” stuff. It’s not a joke. They mean what they say. To all laughing at the militias, all I can say is if you were raised with them you wouldn’t be laughing. They used to be fringe extremists. Y’all mainstreamed them. You created the Proud Boys who are at core an urban/suburban street brawling version of the rural militias.

in 2000, Gavin Newsome and Rosy O’Donnell forced gay marriage down the throats a U.S. that was still 15 years shy of being ready for it. Add Hillary suddenly becoming a New Yorker and we got W “sort of” defeating one of the strongest candidates we’ve seen in decades in Al Gore. Know what else we got from that? Iraq and the Bush administration demonstrating the utter impotence of multi-lateral institutions like the UN that were designed to keep the peace but had no real way to dissuade powerful actors who chose to ignore them (see Putin/Ukraine. Say what you will, but they were following a precedent Bush set) Who here thinks Al Gore would have gone into Iraq? Thanks Rosie! Forcing wildly unpopular social positions can have real world consequences.

wonder how long it would have taken the Pacific Coast states and Hawaii to secede if Bannon had succeeded? I certainly would have been applying for citizenship…

Identity politics brought us to this wonderful place. What the hell do you think Trumpism is? It’s the other side joining the identity politics game. (Apologies in advance if I’m lumping you into any positions you don’t hold, Dagon, but there are things your side need to hear.) this by the way is what Russia means by going asymmetrical. They know where the fault lines lie, and instigate both sides. Wake up, America. Bait and Bleed. (A little bit of Mearsheimer for FizzBit.)

its time for the center to rise again. letting the extremes define the narrative will be the end of America as a functional nation state. It damn near happened, and it still can happen.

Anyway, rant over…sorry. If I made enemies with this, oh well. Patience with a woke left stumbling into handing my country to fascists is gone. Liberal urban areas and conservative rural areas a separate nations, by the actual definition of the word (as the Russians so well understand) Either side trying to force their culture onto the other will be the end of the greater American nation

Btw, socialism is not communism, and mainstream sell out Dems are neither, but Bannonism is fascism. Full stop.

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The problem with your tiny majority there will be times when your own representatives don't agree

That happens, they will work it out and that’s the least of their problems, yes, we all want Hunter investigations to happen and they will come in time, but stopping Biden’s agenda is their main goal, hobble the guy.

The Republicans backed Biden's $1 trillion bill.

Not from next year

You were predicting a massive defeat

Yes, we got the house, so, I’m happy.

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