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'Of course' Trump lost 2020 election, DeSantis says after years of hedging

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By MICHELLE L. PRICE

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Federal and state election officials and Trump’s own attorney general said there was no credible evidence the election’s outcome was affected by fraud. The former president’s allegations were also roundly rejected by courts at the time, including judges he appointed.

That should have ended it. But you have these crazy people.

“The issue is, I think, what people in the media and elsewhere, they want to act like somehow this was just like the perfect election. I don't think it was a good-run election, but I also think Republicans didn't fight back. You've got to fight back when that is happening,” he said.

Empty, meaningless statement. It literally says nothing.

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Even Rock-Star Ron-Ron recognizes it was all a lie.

Of course he knew that all along. Now he is in a flailing last gasp effort to save his "Fred Thompson/Jeb Bush" campaign from the trash bin of history, so he really has nothing else left to try or lose.

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Yep his “mega donor” told him to say that or the campaign money is getting turned off.

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“The issue is, I think, what people in the media and elsewhere, they want to act like somehow this was just like the perfect election. I don't think it was a good-run election, but I also think Republicans didn't fight back. You've got to fight back when that is happening,” he said.

ended up devolving, you know, in a way that was unfortunate

Such eloquence.

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I don't think anyone should be surprised.

Regardless of Party, this is literally one of the most common political/campaigning strategies. Stay 100% loyal to your voting base during the offseason and then slowly test how far you can appeal to moderates before your base starts to get angry. Openly stating "Trump lost the 2020 election and Joe Biden is President" is one of the lowest effort things you can do to at least get some moderates to see you as a "reasonable" Republican as the election season gets closer.

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All evildoers who I wouldn’t trust to make a decent cup of tea even.

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"Hotel entrepreneur Robert Bigelow, the biggest individual donor to a group supporting Ron DeSantis’s presidential bid, has said he will not donate more money unless the Florida governor attracts new major donors and adopts a more moderate approach."

"DeSantis’ campaign finances have come under scrutiny in recent weeks after his campaign said it had let go 38 employees, or over one-third of staff."

"Still, DeSantis’ campaign and Never Back Down had a combined $109m in the bank at the end of June, well above the combined $53m of Trump’s campaign and his allied Super Pac, known as Maga Inc, according to financial disclosures to the Federal Elections Commission."

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Yep his “mega donor” told him to say that or the campaign money is getting turned off.

Bunk. It wasn't that honest a reason. In addition to getting cut off for being too extreme, Rock-Star Ronnie, the Warrant of political rock stars, is crashing and burning. So in a desperate last attempt to "reset" his abomination of a campaign, he decides to tell the truth for a change.

Of course nothing will solve his basic problem - that he is Ron DeSantis.

But it's a start.

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At some point the spineless GOP will turn on the outrageous victim they call D J Trump.

If only so they can hijack his bandwagon.

More humiliation for the insane party faithful. It's a bottomless barrel for these people.

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Bunk

Not “bunk”

your boy Wallace just told you all about it.

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he decides to tell the truth for a change.

Nobody tells the truth for money.

but they will lie for it.

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Often seen in sports where a team or individual cheats and the other team or individual "loses".

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Blacklabel

still an election denier.

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that would be correct.

”Almost a third of Americans still believe the 2020 election result was fraudulent”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/shows/meetthepress/blog/rcna90145

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Hotel entrepreneur Robert Bigelow, the biggest individual donor to a group supporting Ron DeSantis’s presidential bid, has said he will not donate more money unless the Florida governor attracts new major donors and adopts a more moderate approach

Fact check true.

Your claim that he is now lying to keep his donor happy: Bunk.

He is now telling the truth because he has no other play. Too little too late, but at least Rock-Star Ron-Ron has learned the difference between an obvious lie and objective reality.

If only Stupid Voldemort's cultist rubes could be so incentivized.

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“Of course he lost,” DeSantis said an interview with NBC News posted Monday. “Joe Biden's the president.”

What a loon.

He’ll be telling people Ted Cruz’s father wasn’t in on the JFK assassination next.

Totally lost the plot.

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Imagine that--doubting an election.

Hillary Clinton Maintains 2016 Election ‘Was Not On the Level’: ‘We Still Don’t Know What Really Happened’

https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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Academic research has shown that mail voting increases turnout but doesn’t benefit either party.

I’ll trust the wisdom of my Lord ‘n’ Little Savior Donald J. Trump over the so-called expertise of woke Marxist academics any day of the week! Because otherwise the last eight years of my life will have been for nought!

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De santis has long been compromised. Of course he would say this even when he knows it isn't true. Sad to see a man sell his soul.

Funny how election deniers call other election deniers. Lets look back at 2016.

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So by coming out with this new story that no one believes that he believes, who is DeSantis pandering to?

anyone who believes this new lie already voting for him, that’s his 12% base.

Democrats can’t vote for him and even if they could they won’t, they will just use this flip flop to mock him and attack Trump.

stupid move, likely on advice of his wife who wants a few more months of interviews and private jets. All he had to do was shut up, back Trump and 2028 was his.

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Not “bunk”

Regardless, Trump still lost.

”Almost a third of Americans still believe the 2020 election result was fraudulent”

Right, because the rightwing media makes stuff up and their adoring fans lap it all up. Still doesn't make it true.

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He’ll be denying Jewish space lasers start forest fires next.

The poor man needs help.

Gone right down the rabbit hole.

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That should have ended it. But you have these crazy people.

Well, to be fair it didn’t end it for the Dems in 2016 it should have though…

https://youtu.be/umsAhEFHFKA

Empty, meaningless statement. It literally says nothing

How so?

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Your claim that he is now lying to keep his donor happy: Bunk. 

Fact check= true.

no money no campaign. Obviously. His mega donor ordered him to be more “moderate”.

Nothing more moderate than suddenly changing your statements on an election 2.5 years ago.

Timing was just “coincidental” to you?

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MAGA supporters election deniers.

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that would be correct.

Almost a third of Americans still believe the 2020 election result was fraudulent”

You’re in the minority. You lose.

Why don’t you get with a majority belief like that Jesus was born of a virgin. Over two thirds of Americans believe that one.

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You’re in the minority. You lose. 

Doesn't mean you have the constitutional right to silence any opposition to the results.

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”Almost a third of Americans still believe the 2020 election result was fraudulen

So many modern day Galileos.

The future looks bright. Why Goldman Sachs and NASA aren’t banging their doors down is the mystery.

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How does saying Trump lost convince trump voters to change to Desantis?

or is he trying to take half of Pence’s 5% and half of Christie’s 2% to get back up to 15%+?

seeing as trump is going to prison (yeah right) wouldn’t it be better to support Trump strongly and take all his voters when he can’t run?

I’m up to hear some mental gymnastics

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In 2016, there was a peaceful handover of power. No court cases files. Obama invited Trump to the Oval Office.

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Yep his “mega donor” told him to say that or the campaign money is getting turned off.

So now we know what it takes for a MAGA politician to tell the obvious truth.

But culturally it is a huge shift for a movement principally based on falsehoods.

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In 2016, there was a peaceful handover of power.

While the Dems secretly used the Feds, impeachment, Russia collusion delusion, a salacious unverified dossier, but yeah, peaceful….

No court cases files. Obama invited Trump to the Oval Office.

He had to! Lol

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Yes Trump “lost”.

just as the LA Dodgers “lost” the 2017 World Series but yet it was found 2 years later that the Astros were stealing signs.

did they go back and award the title to the rightful winner? Was anyone really punished?

nope, too controversial and too late.

However, Commissioner of BaseballRob Manfred opted against punishing any of the players involved or revoking the Astros' World Series title.[10]

So did the Dodgers “lose”? Yes they did. But there is additional context where many consider they “lost” but didn’t really lose, because they were cheated.

same story with 2020 election.

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Don’t make me post that long video of nearly all your favorite Democrats denying election results.

you know the one.

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How does saying Trump lost convince trump voters to change to Desantis?

Now, that's is a fair point: It probably doesn't, and relitigating the results of the 2020 election is a fool's errand. Trump lost. Get over it.

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Now, that's is a fair point: It probably doesn't, and relitigating the results of the 2020 election is a fool's errand. Trump lost. Get over it.

Well, the Dems didn’t accept the results of the 2016 election, the GOP doesn’t have to either regardless if Biden is in the WH. No man gets to dictate how a person should vote, think or whom to accept.

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Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis said definitively that rival Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, an acknowledgement the Florida governor made after years of equivocating answers.

“Of course he lost,” DeSantis said an interview with NBC News posted Monday. “Joe Biden's the president.”

And with that, RINO Ron goes from "rockstar" to "rat"....

In the MAGA-cult, belief in the Big Lie is sacrosanct...not because it's true, but because it is the fundamental basis for the continuing grift....

Trump knows this - it's why he has $80 million to pay his gaggle of bungling lawyers...it all came from the suckers that thought they were donating to his campaign...the small change left over goes to Melania's fashion coordinator...

He's not running for President, he's running to hustle and scam the MAGA-masses of every penny they own in a failed attempt to keep out of a cell...

Proving once again that in MAGA-world, there's one born every minute...

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Doesn't mean you have the constitutional right to silence any opposition to the results.

You’re here, right? No one is silencing you. Obviously.

No one has the constitutional right to overturn election results based on lies, disinformation, misinformation, or hearsay.

Trump lost. If you can’t handle that emotionally, tough.

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Well, the Dems didn’t accept the results of the 2016 election

Nonsense. They didn't try and overthrow the election results.

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Well, to be fair it didn’t end it for the Dems in 2016 it should have though…

2 wrongs make a right so they?

How many court cases did Hillary file? Did the cyber ninjas look for any bamboo residue in 2016 too?

I must have missed it.

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You’re here, right? No one is silencing you. Obviously. 

America is bigger than JT

No one has the constitutional right to overturn election results based on lies, disinformation, misinformation, or hearsay. 

Exactly, but it seems the Dems either didn’t get the memo or just didn’t care.

Trump lost. If you can’t handle that emotionally, tough

The Dems couldn’t in 2016

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Since you’re so keen to talk about seven years ago why didn’t 45 continue to dispute the 2016 election results?

He was whining for months before, again without evidence or merit, that the election was rigged. But suddenly decided it was ‘perfect’ after he won.

Surely he’d have wanted to be sure. You know, count all the votes, check for mail voter fraud, all that stuff.

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Nonsense.

it was nonsense.

Democrats tried to muscle the Electoral College long after Nov. 8, 2016. Nearly five million Hillary fans endorsed a Change.org petition addressed to Trump’s pledged backers in the Electoral College.

They didn't try and overthrow the election results.

The petition stated: “We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states’ votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton.” As the video shows, this petition received 4,881,661 supporters and carried the headline, “Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President.”

Subtle maybe….

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Democrats tried to muscle the Electoral College long after Nov. 8, 2016. Nearly five million Hillary fans endorsed a Change.org petition addressed to Trump’s pledged backers in the Electoral College.

Right, because an online petition is the same as j6 lol

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They didn't try and overthrow the election results.

No they just spent all 4 years secretly undermining the duly elected president by weaponizing all 3 branches of government and social/liberal media against him using spies and lies.

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“Of course he lost,” DeSantis said an interview with NBC News posted Monday. “Joe Biden's the president.”

RINO Ron just appears to be agreeing with what the rest of Trump's team has already said...HE LOST....

His own handpicked AG Bill Barr: "Disputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election."

His own handpicked attorney Rudy Giuliani: "Defendant Giuliani, for the purposes of litigation only, does not contest that, to the extent the statements were statements of fact and other wise actionable, such actionable factual statements were false,

His favorite Fox News talking head: "I did not believe it for one second," Hannity testified, in the Colorado-based Dominion Voting Systems trial when asked about Trump's fraudulent elections claims...

Even Trump himself: Trump admitted he lost to Biden: *Alyssa Farah Griffin, the former White House director of strategic communications, said on CNN's "State of the Union" that Trump "watching Joe Biden on TV said, 'Can you believe I lost to this guy?'

Don't know why the MAGA-faithful here are so mad at Ron - he's just agreeing with your MAGA-heroes...

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Right, because an online petition is the same as j6 lol

Denial is denial

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Has a candidate who’s out on bail in three different states ever won the presidency?

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No they just spent all 4 years secretly undermining the duly elected president by weaponizing all 3 branches of government and social/liberal media against him using spies and lies.

lol Complete and total nonsense. Prove it.

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lol Complete and total nonsense. Prove it.

History:

Russian collusion delusion, two failed impeachment, trying to use the 25th amendment, blocking every agenda the man put forward, lying to the FISA court, in order to drum up a false insulations dossier, I mean it doesn’t matter now, because the Democrats still couldn’t get what they wanted, they still couldn’t get Trump, they still can’t block him from running, they still can’t lock this guy up.

So it’s all good.

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