DeSantis says U.S. shouldn't take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza because they're 'all antisemitic'

I agree. It was disgraceful.

Do you think collective punishment is justified as a response?

I do think collective punishment is justified if the an act engaged in by Israel does not amount to intentionally seeking out and killing civilians, and instead is an act such as cutting off water or whatever to the Palestinians in Gaza.

So, for me, the feeling of disgust for what Hamas did, and for Israel pulling the plug on electricity are of vastly differing degrees.

I also agree with Israel's Energy Minister who said no electricity, water, or fuel until the hostages are returned home.

Further he said, "And no one will preach us morals."

Coming from a fascist, racist, mediocre IQ idiot these remarks can just be brushed aside

He’s not an idiot.

He knows what appeals to certain types who are often idiots.

Important distinction.

Coming from a fascist, racist, mediocre IQ idiot these remarks can just be brushed aside...........like he will be in 2024.

Do you think collective punishment is justified as a response?

You asked me and I responded, so I will do it again so there is no misunderstandings.

Then don’t punch me, my family, my neighbors in the face first then you don’t have to worry about reprisals.

My complete and unapologetic answer

Bass, you don’t understand the question.

Let’s not bother taking this any further.

yipyip

This is a world of instant horror, given a life of its own with the aid of social media, all for better or worse.

The freedom loving, human rights advocating democracies, that prides themselves on restraint, even when faced with extreme hatred.

Peace loving peoples recoiling in disgust of harsh retaliation when presented a truth of finally having to witness Israel peoples desperation.

All illusions of any shroud restraint melting away, as Hamas refusal to free the hostages or let the Palestinian nation free of being held up as human shields.

What is left other than the terror of right now.

Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran have played this with the skill of an enemy in full knowledge of a freedom loving democracies Achilles heel. humanity conscience, of its people to call for appeasement when faced with huge casualties loss of life of a people trapped between a rock and a hard place.

Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran have taken advantage, all the global protests, to beat us collectively into submission.

Hamas and its supporters made a case for it last week with its massacre of civilians, so I found that as disgraceful as you do

I agree. It was disgraceful.

Do you think collective punishment is justified as a response?

I find the idea disgraceful. 

If you want to make a case for it, go ahead.

I did

No, you did not. I scrolled up.

—What facts?

The facts that are always lacking in liberal debates.

Evasion after evasion.

Who in their right mind would want to live in the US with bigots like this loser running or trying to run the country??

the millions of people illegally crossing our border.

They don’t seem to see the “bigotry” that you claim is prevalent (but supposedly only on one political side, right?)

@bass

Do you agree with Lindsey Graham’s statement about Gaza, that Israel should “level the place”?

What facts?

The facts that are always lacking in liberal debates.

I find the idea disgraceful. 

If you want to make a case for it, go ahead.

I did, I’m sorry if it was more to the point and less belaboring, I try to shorten them, no need for garrulous banter.

I just asked if anyone wants to make the case for collective punishment.

I find the idea disgraceful. 

If you want to make a case for it, go ahead.

Hamas and its supporters made a case for it last week with its massacre of civilians, so I found that as disgraceful as you do.

you just want to ignore the facts I put forward.

What facts?

Not surprising that nobody has attempted it here yet.

Trying to ignore reality doesn’t help your argument at all, should be surprised, but I’m not

Eh?

I just asked if anyone wants to make the case for collective punishment.

I find the idea disgraceful.

If you want to make a case for it, go ahead.

If someone attacks you

I said, me and my family. Please don’t distort what I was trying to convey.

Many of us here vehemently disagree.

If you can’t read I would understand that, but since you all can, it means either you are being lazy or you just want to ignore the facts I put forward.

Not surprising that nobody has attempted it here yet.

Trying to ignore reality doesn’t help your argument at all, should be surprised, but I’m not.

That's why the socialists are screeching so loudly.

I guess Nikki Haley is a socialist then.

The real world is not divided into such cartoonishly simple dichotomies.

Dwarf De Sanctimonious attempting to stay relevant.

Whatever Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sentiments, Hamas is totally responsible for the continued plight of the Palestinian people, its nation, the hideous inhuman atrocities and slaughter and finally hostage taking of defenseless Israeli men women, children and yes infants/togglers.

Well said.

And simply put, anyone who supports Hamas is antisemitic.

Then don’t punch me, my family, my neighbors in the face first then you don’t have to worry about reprisals.

If someone attacks you and then you attack every member of the attacker's family you will be arrested

Yep.

Making a case for collective punishment is very tough.

Not surprising that nobody has attempted it here yet.

He's right, of course. That's why the socialists are screeching so loudly.

Whatever Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sentiments, Hamas is totally responsible for the continued plight of the Palestinian people, its nation, the hideous inhuman atrocities and slaughter and finally hostage taking of defenseless Israeli men women, children and yes infants/togglers.

What in heaven name god sanctions/condones into faith/worship such atrocities

Then don’t punch me, my family, my neighbors in the face first then you don’t have to worry about reprisals.

If someone attacks you and then you attack every member of the attacker's family you will be arrested.

What a horrible human being. Who in their right mind would want to live in the US with bigots like this loser running or trying to run the country??

About rough estimates 3-5 million this year alone and from now around 160 countries.

Evading the question. It's just the usual whataboutism

I didn’t, I wouldn’t, not my style

Then don’t punch me, my family, my neighbors in the face first then you don’t have to worry about reprisals.

Evading the question. It's just the usual whataboutism.

What a horrible human being. Who in their right mind would want to live in the US with bigots like this loser running or trying to run the country??

Collective punishment would be punching the assailant’s family members and neighbours in the faces.

Would you do that?

Then don’t punch me, my family, my neighbors in the face first then you don’t have to worry about reprisals.

The hypocrisy of it all!

Ergo, collective punishment good. Me like very much (grunt grunt).

Don't like to get punched in the face, then don’t touch me or my kin

That’s not collective punishment.

Collective punishment would be punching the assailant’s family members and neighbours in the faces.

Would you do that?

Are you a bad hombre

No, an actual investigation, unserious person.

like as an example every Japanese woman who marries an American and wants a visa does. The one that takes 6 months- 1 year to get where they check the entire background.

cant do that for terrorist countries but can do it for US military wives?

DeSantis though an Ivy League elitist is trying to appeal to his poorly educated Republican base, he clearlky does not know the dictionary definition of 'Semite" : a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.

Can you provide a link from your dictionary to the definition of antisemitism?

If Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis felt compelled to make such potent statement at least tone down, suggesting the potential for provoking antisemitic sentiment.

Wait until the Government of Israel anticipated ground invasion.

The potential humanitarian crisis unfolding could need careful political maneuvering in the coming days and weeks.

"they"

Elections were held in 2006 and haven't been held since.

We knew what Hamas was before the Gazans voted for them, that was a given, they voted for them, they were warned that it could have a blowback effect and here we are.

A very small minority of Gazans alive today voted for Hamas.

Yes, and?

Collective punishment is wrong, no matter what your emotions are at the moment.

Well, as sad as that statement is, the Israelis will do their best to avoid civilian casualties, but Hamas brought this on themselves and the Israelis will put them out of commission once and for all

De Santis is just a heartless jerk.

I think he’s spot on.

You know this as a fact?

Look at the flag, you can’t claim something that was never yours to begin with. The two-state solution is just a dream now, Israel won’t and should never allow it to happen.

Ergo, collective punishment good. Me like very much (grunt grunt).

Don't like to get punched in the face, then don’t touch me or my kin.

So, why are you getting all riled up again?

I’m not. Just calling it for what it is.

“Are you a bad hombre?”

No, but I’m also not part of a group that wants to hurt or kill Jews, or Americans.

How many Arab countries have offered to take in Palestinian Arab refugees?

Thank you.

How many Arab countries have offered to take in Palestinian Arab refugees?

If you don’t let people just walk into your country like Biden there are things called visa applications. 

that have interviews and investigations associated.

“Are you a bad hombre?”

How are you going to stop ‘American-Jewish hating Palestinians’ from entering the US? 

Sigh, I just said, you probably can’t or won’t, but that helps Trump and the GOP

So, why are you getting all riled up again?

they elected Hamas, let’s just be clear about that. Not everyone’s a member of Hamas, most probably aren’t. But they did elect Hamas,

"they"

Elections were held in 2006 and haven't been held since. A very small minority of Gazans alive today voted for Hamas. Collective punishment is wrong, no matter what your emotions are at the moment.

De Santis is just a heartless jerk.

a community who in most part wants the Jews to leave their homeland or wants them dead

You know this as a fact?

--Heartless

Hamas is, I couldn’t agree more.

Ergo, collective punishment good. Me like very much (grunt grunt).

Why do any news outlets give this moron a platform. If he said his poop is purple and sparkly they would write a 6 page article on it?

If you don’t let people just walk into your country like Biden there are things called visa applications.

that have interviews and investigations associated.

How are you going to stop ‘American-Jewish hating Palestinians’ from entering the US?

Sigh, I just said, you probably can’t or won’t, but that helps Trump and the GOP

Will there be some kind of questionnaire at the gate?

Preferably a background check.

The presidential candidates are trying to outdo each other in their support for Israel. Pathetic!

So the leftists and leftist sympathizers here think the USA should take in Palestinian refugees based on a 150 year old poem?

Really?

But I thought you wanted to stop them entering

Not just me, but yes.

How are you going to stop ‘American-Jewish hating Palestinians’ from entering the US? Will there be some kind of questionnaire at the gate?

Better story would be: DeSantis says U.S. shouldn't take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza.

could have stopped right there- doesn’t need any further explaining.

But I thought you wanted to stop them entering

Not just me, but yes.

Make your mind up.

It is, and we know this administration could care less what the majority of the nation thinks or wants, so yes, it helps Trump, ( DeSantis as well )and the GOP.

If ‘American-Jewish hating Palestinians’ want to enter the U.S. they can do it already.

Yes, that really helps Trump and the GOP, go ahead. Seriously.

But I thought you wanted to stop them entering. Make your mind up.

He can be ‘serious’ all he likes. He’s going nowhere. Only his empty headed supporters think otherwise.

To people that don’t care about immigration, but since it will be a serious issue next year, I would vehemently disagree.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/08/democrats-criticize-biden-immigration-border/

Bad hombres? Bogeyman for idiots.

https://issuesinsights.com/2023/10/10/rising-voter-anger-over-illegal-immigration-is-big-problem-for-biden-dems-in-2024-ii-tipp-poll/

If ‘American-Jewish hating Palestinians’ want to enter the U.S. they can do it already.

Yes, that really helps Trump and the GOP, go ahead. Seriously.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/27/dems-migrant-crisis-biden-00118001

If ‘American-Jewish hating Palestinians’ want to enter the U.S. they can do it already. Going to put a new checkbox question on the boarding cards?

So it’s plausible to think that this administration could decide to do the same thing and let in hundreds of American-Jewish hating Palestinians in.

Bad hombres? Bogeyman for idiots.

Good, because he’s serious to the deepest core of his soul.

He can be ‘serious’ all he likes. He’s going nowhere. Only his empty headed supporters think otherwise.

"President Biden signed an executive order to reverse what's been called the Muslim ban, signed by former President Trump, that banned travelers from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States. Mar 6, 2021"

Heartless

Hamas is, I couldn’t agree more.

Seems like he is making a speech about a non problem.

See, this is the typical lib response to every problem they create, it’s not a problem and then later it’s a huge problem, so huge it just can’t be contained.

I am not aware of any proposal to absorb refugees from Gaza in the US,

Given the fact that this administration has allowed millions of un-vetted illegals into this country and still coming, we have millions of people we know nothing, absolutely nothing about. So it’s plausible to think that this administration could decide to do the same thing and let in hundreds of American-Jewish hating Palestinians in. Now are all of them violent American-Jewish hating Jihadists? Of course not, but given this administrations stance on immigration and illegals they would just allow more people from everywhere and we have no idea as to where they’re from or who they are.

and the Gazans themselves worry most about being displaced from Gaza and never being allowed to return.

This is the consequence for voting for a radical jihadist group to represent an entire community, a community who in most part wants the Jews to leave their homeland or wants them dead.

Ron Desantis, one of that rare species with vocal cords in his rectum

Good, because he’s serious to the deepest core of his soul.

wallaceToday  07:05 am JST

Trump said something about Muslims and introduced a travel ban.

So did biden. So what's your point?

DeSantis though an Ivy League elitist is trying to appeal to his poorly educated Republican base, he clearlky does not know the dictionary definition of 'Semite" : a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.

Only ignored triggered narcissists have to resort to shock value to get attention. More fading star than ‘rock star’. Bye ron

White Spiteful people like Desantis wonder,why they are despised ,they are the racist bottom feeders

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!*

*Offer does not apply to Palestinians

Seems like he is making a speech about a non problem. I am not aware of any proposal to absorb refugees from Gaza in the US, and the Gazans themselves worry most about being displaced from Gaza and never being allowed to return. Ron Desantis, one of that rare species with vocal cords in his rectum.

Trump said something about Muslims and introduced a travel ban.

The U.S. should not be absorbing any of those. I think the culture — so they elected Hamas, let’s just be clear about that. Not everyone’s a member of Hamas, most probably aren’t. But they did elect Hamas,” he said of people in Gaza.

By that logic of DeSantis those that voted for the toxic culture of MAGA and the GOP in elections should also be held collectively responsible. And barred from further participation in the political process.

And as has been pointed out, Palestinians are Semites too and hate crimes are already being committed against them too.

What an idiot! He is like a Trump in waiting!

Semitic (definition)

1) relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.

2) relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.

Palestinians are also semitic. Hating Palestinians (any religious denomination), Muslims, or Arabs is anti-semitic!

Heartless.