Dogs ripped kids to pieces in N Korean camp: ex-guard

The two other children were barely breathing and the guards buried them alive,”

The next day, instead of putting down the murderous dogs, the guards pet them and fed them special food “as some kind of award,”

Trouble believing these types of stories. Remember Saddam feeding enemies into a giant food grinder? Or the evil Iraqis pulling babies from incubators in Kuwait?

Both stories turned out to be fabrications.

How are you comparing human food grinder with attack dogs? Attack dogs exist, human food grinders don't. Common sense seems in short supply.

@Trouble believing these types of stories.

Cuts both ways. Folks in certain European countries didn't initially believe that the little Austrian Corporal and his band of loons were engaging in the genocide of Jews, Gypsies, political prisoners, the disabled, etc. But we still ended up with Auschwitz.

The story might not be true but something fishy is going on there. Saw on gizmodo yesterday a nightmap from outerspace with north-korea completely black except for some lights in Pyong Yang. They have no electricity or limited electricity in this day and age and Kim Jong Un, gives fark all because I dont see him making any effort improving his country.

The Kim clique has a final trump card up their sleeve. Most intelligence agencies have been aware for some time that DPRK bio-weapons laboratories have been working hard for years to reanimate apocalypse diseases like the Spanish influenza, vaccine resistant smallpox, antibiotic resistant bubonic plague, and several others. For just such a contingency, they could threaten to release them and precipitate an end of the world scenario if the regime was threatened. Holding the whole world hostage and extorting all of humanity would be easy for criminals like Kim and his cronies. Why should they care if their own country's population vanished in the process? They seem to be working to that end anyway. China will do everything in its power to prevent any threat to the Kim mafia. China has known for years exactly what these doomsday laboratories have been up to. Why would China provoke an infantile megalomaniac with the capability to kill 400 million of its citizens? The UN will never be able to bring the Kim junta to justice.

"People in the camps are not treated as human beings....They are like flies that can be crushed,"

But....

attack children coming back from the camp school.

So they are not human but apparently are receiving education?

Horrible stuff, to say the least, but I have a little trouble sympathizing with the guy as he was part of the problem and admits to beating people (and he may well NOT be admitting other things!). It's good he's coming forward and saying what he's saying, but I hope he can do more to atone for the things he did.

So they are not human but apparently are receiving education?

We train dogs, but they are not human.

Trouble believing these types of stories. Remember Saddam feeding enemies into a giant food grinder? Or the evil Iraqis pulling babies from incubators in Kuwait?

Both stories turned out to be fabrications.

Doesn't matter. Kids should not be in camps (or adults) for something their grandparents did. In fact, they shouldn't be in camps for any reason.

@Smith

While it's hard for us to relate to him, we didn't grow up in the same environment. Propaganda is a way of life there and people are lied to constantly. Like you say, it's good that he is trying to make amends now. His testimony is help expose how terrible these camps are. Let's hope the truly rotten NK regime comes to an end sometime soon.

I am with SimonB. The guy's claim to fame is being a defector. It would not be the first time somebody lied for attention or to maintain his status. Some of you have a need to believe the worst things possible are happening in North Korea and you did not learn your lesson with Iraq and Saddam. The day this story is corroborated by a disinterested third party is the day I believe it.

I wouldn't be surprised if everything Ahn said about North Korean prisons was true.

Just remember how they had to cry as crazy when Kim Jong-il died, all from fear of them being punished for not mourning good , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxMrq6YTgbQ and you can search all over youtube for more videos of their mourning's, but best expression of their fear is this, where they mourn over escalator that Kim Jong-il used http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrfZPMH-CEg its a scary country , and you still dont believe it, those kids are part of families that are in camps because they did something against regime , and their life's are meaningless for North Korean government .

This horrifying story raises the following two questions: 1) is the story veritable? 2) Why do stories about atrocities that are alleged to be perpetrated by North Korea get so much highlight, while atrocities perpetrated AGAINST North Korea are never mentioned?

As regards the first question, what Ahn Myong-Chol tells in the present story is not very much consistent with what he tells in another story:

http://freekorea.us/camps/22-2

In which camp did Ahn really serve? What are the horrors that really haunt him most? When someone brings new stories every time, one cannot but ask: Are the stories real or invented?

Also, the story that Jang Song Thaek was eaten by dogs has been spread all over the world, but later refuted in a minor tone.

I have a sickening feeling that the stories Ahn was telling are true. If you told me that NK was developing a giant monster farm I wouldn't be surprised... nothing about that loony bin country surprises me. Shocks me, yes, but as Holmes said: always expect the unexpected.

Once he got involved in the NGO work in South Korea, he was uneasy about meeting former prisoners who had also managed to defect, like Chol Hwan Kang.

Kang was sent to Camp 15—where Ahn once served—with his whole family when he was nine and spent 10 years there to repent for the suspected disloyalties of his grandfather. Ahn remembered him from his time as a guard there.

Why not ask that other guy, former prisoner Kang?