77 Nobel laureates sign letter opposing RFK Jr as Trump's health secretary

The knives are out...

So, what expertise do the laureates in physics, chemistry and economics have Kennedy doesn't have in the field administered by HHS?

As for the Weissman, I'd expect his opposition. But this hit piece of an article simply takes mRNA jabs as "safe and effective" without question - something opposed by one of the other inventors of mRNA technology, Robert Malone. But because Malone has the honesty to consider the problems the technology presents, he's maligned by the industry. How many of these medical laureates have conflicts of interest that could suffer if Kennedy is confirmed? It seems that even questioning the safety and effectiveness of certain treatments and preventive measures is forbidden nowadays. That's what's patently anti-science.

anti-science is claims made without any evidence.

Bad Haircut

As for the Weissman, I'd expect his opposition. But this hit piece of an article simply takes mRNA jabs as "safe and effective" without question -

And 100’s of millions of jabs later, it has been proven correct.

something opposed by one of the other inventors of mRNA technology, Robert Malone.

Robert Malone was proven wrong.

MAGAs trying to put it to the test that we don't need experts in government.

Bad HaircutToday 12:21 pm JST

So, what expertise do the laureates in physics, chemistry and economics have Kennedy doesn't have in the field administered by HHS?

The ones in medicine sure do.

So, what expertise do the laureates in physics, chemistry and economics have Kennedy doesn't have in the field administered by HHS?

They've actually studied science.

TaiwanIsNotChinaToday  12:32 pm JST

Bad HaircutToday 12:21 pm JST

So, what expertise do the laureates in physics, chemistry and economics have Kennedy doesn't have in the field administered by HHS?

The ones in medicine sure do.

There are thousands of doctors happy for Kennedy to get the job and help to clean up an industry infested with vested interests and corruption. This "article" is just the stock-standard, nuance-free appeal to authority typifying the corporate media. Nothing new to see here.

Robert Malone was proven wrong.

Not at all. Unless of course you consider dangerous side effects like blood clots, paralysis and death due to the spike proteins migrating away from the injection site to organs inconsequential.

rainydayToday  12:34 pm JST

So, what expertise do the laureates in physics, chemistry and economics have Kennedy doesn't have in the field administered by HHS?

They've actually studied science.

So, the doctors who support Kennedy's nomination haven't?

77 Nobel laureates sign letter opposing RFK Jr as Trump's health secretary

This blunder just got him confirmed.

A  Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), without any medical experience, is not the right candidate.

77 Nobel laureates vs the stable genius... this will be fun.

MAGAs trying to put it to the test that we don't need experts in government.

Soon, the idiocracy in the USA!

Oh so Pete Hegseth and Kash Patel must be ok for confirmation cause the media moved on to RFK and Tulsi today in sync.

MAGAs trying to put it to the test that we don't need experts in government.

I’m just glad the left has no say what or who gets into this new cabinet

Yep 77 “Nobel laureates” but still 0 actual input lol

"An environmental lawyer by trade with no medical background, Kennedy has spent years professing conspiracy theories linking vaccines and autism, and most recently spread misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines."

I would not take the advice of an unqualified doctor or anyone lacking extensive healthcare experience.

Most don't realize RFK's been deeply immersed with hundreds in scientific community for decades via his health foundation, especially scientific causes of rapid rise of chronic disease in the US across all age groups.

Biden locked RFK out of Democratic Primary and others too = VERY Undemocratic. Thus, RFK turned to Trump and the rest is history = Make America Healthy Again!

No doubt RFK helped Trump win Nov 5th, ditto Musk and Gabbard, all former disaffected Democrats tired of the $corruption & endless wars of the un-elected globalists.

77 Nobel recipients in medicine, chemistry, physics and economics.

These people didn't get their Nobel Prizes for nothing. They worked in their fields, honest diligent work to get these honors. They're not dummies.

And RFK Jr. is a spoiled troublemaker who talks trash and lies all the time. Of course he would kiss trump's butt. Everybody in der Fuehrer's administration is a sellout, a yes-person and a loser in life.

"In view of his record, placing Mr Kennedy in charge of DHHS would put the public's health in jeopardy," concludes the letter signed by 77 Nobel recipients in medicine, chemistry, physics and economics.

How touching - elitist academics who've spent their entire careers cozying up to Big Pharma and government grants are now clutching their pearls over someone daring to challenge their profit-driven narrative. Let's talk about credentials. RFK has spent decades exposing the corruption in health policy, the same system that handed billions to Big Pharma while Americans got fatter and sicker and more dependent on their drugs. These "Nobel experts" conveniently ignore the skyrocketing rates of chronic diseases that have exploded alongside the vaccine schedule they blindly endorse.

Their opposition isn't about science one iota; it’s about protecting their buddies in the pharmaceutical industry. If vaccines are so perfect, why do manufacturers need liability shields? Why do they lobby to silence debate? RFK isn’t afraid to ask those questions, and their hysteria proves he's a threat to their cozy little empire. Nobel Prize or not, these folks are just another arm of the machine that values profits over public health.

Real problem is most top people in health and food within US Govt. are Defacto lobbyists for industry, especially Big Pharma & Big Ag. taking BIG research$, board seats, consulting gigs, etc. It's all Very $Corrupt.

RFK, not bought & paid for and will remove above Govt. conflicts of interest = Make America Healthy Again!

Given America's clear distaste for intelligence and learning, I suspect this letter has as much chance of changing anything as I do of winning the next Sumo basho.

Trump told the people to have the COVID-19 vaccine. Tens of millions followed his advice.

For context, here is the incoming US health secretary:

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a63021232/rfk-jr-bodyweight-workouts/

Here is the former US health assistant secretary:

https://www.kktv.com/2021/01/19/biden-picks-transgender-woman-as-assistant-health-secretary-2/

Pretty clear choice.

Bad HaircutToday 12:37 pm JST

There are thousands of doctors happy for Kennedy to get the job and help to clean up an industry infested with vested interests and corruption.

But not go on a mad crusade against vaccines. They usually consider that to far outweigh any futile attempts to change food additives.

These people didn't get their Nobel Prizes for nothing. They worked in their fields, honest diligent work to get these honors. They're not dummies.

And?

And RFK Jr. is a spoiled troublemaker who talks trash and lies all the time. Of course he would kiss trump's butt. Everybody in der Fuehrer's administration is a sellout, a yes-person and a loser in life.

Too bad, he’s going to get appointed, can’t wait for him to get all the poison out of our food since these Nobel Prize winners won’t.

If RFK was in this position during covid, there would have been millions more dead Americans.

Honestly, everyone should sit back and just let the maga regime do their thing. Let them to the craziest stuff! The country will fall apart within a couple of years and Americans will be done with the maga regime. It would be a hard lesson, but best to let America hit rock bottom.

So, what expertise do the laureates in physics, chemistry and economics have Kennedy doesn't have in the field administered by HHS?

They obviously know well enough how to evaluate scientific evidence from primary sources and understand that insisting on things demonstrated as false without any evidence to support such a claim deeply invalidates RFKjr, They do have authority to recognize antiscientific bias.

But this hit piece of an article simply takes mRNA jabs as "safe and effective" without question 

Because that is the consensus of science according to the available evidence, pretending this is not settled because some video is telling you the opposite is not a valid position to take.

But because Malone has the honesty to consider the problems the technology presents, he's maligned by the industry

He is shunned because he tries to lie and misrepresent the evidence (and his own importance) for personal gain, peer review is precisely this.

There are thousands of doctors happy for Kennedy to get the job and help to clean up an industry infested with vested interests and corruption.

Yet not even one of these "thousands" can bring any evidence to support the debunked claims RFKjr makes, which by definition would make them terribly subpar as professionals.

Not at all. Unless of course you consider dangerous side effects like blood clots, paralysis and death due to the spike proteins migrating away from the injection site to organs inconsequential.

Yes, he was proved wrong about all this and more.

So, the doctors who support Kennedy's nomination haven't?

Which doctors and what evidence do they have to disprove the scientific and medical consensus. Without this very elementary requisite it would be clear they are not minimally prepared to do their jobs.

Most don't realize RFK's been deeply immersed with hundreds in scientific community for decades via his health foundation, especially scientific causes of rapid rise of chronic disease in the US across all age groups.

Apparently not enough to see that there is no such "rapid rise" as soon as increased age of the population is added, this would be a huge disqualification argument (not being able to do basic epidemiology even when supposedly heavily involved with scientists) fortunately for him the excuse that his health foundation is not in any way a recognized scientific institution means there was nobody there that could explain such basic concepts.

How touching - elitist academics who've spent their entire careers cozying up to Big Pharma and government grants are now clutching their pearls over someone daring to challenge their profit-driven narrative.

Sure, nobel prizes in physics "cozying up to big pharma", because treatment of black holes is such a gold mine...

This is just again the terribly obvious excuse all antiscientific groups try to use when confronted with the reality that evidence clearly refutes their beliefs, the same as flat earthers or creationists, "no evidence? that is because the lack of evidence proves what I believe"

Real problem is most top people in health and food within US Govt. are Defacto lobbyists for industry

Pretending everybody (as in every country, not only the US) is lying when they debunk RFKjr is not supported when you try to use as an excuse the situation in one single country. He is proved wrong by scientists all over the world, including countries without any link to industry.

During Trump's second term, there could be new pandemics.

The nobel laureates are missing the point.

Trump is deliberately picking people he knows to be completely unqualified for the positions.

Now, we could debate the motivation for him doing this. There are several possible explanations. One is spite and revenge, which are his primary motivators. Another is that Putin is telling him who to appoint, and he would never go against Putin because Putin has him by the short and curlies.

So the combined intellectual wattage of 77 nobel laureates, while imposing, only works if one assumes that the thing they oppose is based on the use of intellect. In this case, it is based on the polar opposite.

MAGAs trying to put it to the test that we don't need experts in government.

Would love to see your Big Pharma comments pre-2020 because I guarantee "science" didn't matter to you then.

Wonder why so many Nobel laureates so easily accept the rapid rise of chronic disease in the last few decades?

Mostly because they know basic epidemiology and clearly understand how wrong he is.

Really? If he's such a threat, why does the establishment spend so much time slinging playground insults instead of debating him on the facts?

He has been proved wrong repeatedly to the point he gives up trying to argue anything, his answer is to lie about what he said even if it has been terribly easy to prove (to him) that he actually said what he later claimed not. He has no argument, no evidence, just repetition of the same debunked claims and mistakes.

Too bad, he’s going to get appointed, can’t wait for him to get all the poison out of our food since these Nobel Prize winners won’t.

So the Nobel Prize winners must be wrong about him because you must be right? is that your argument? that does not make any sense.

The nobel laureates are missing the point.

Not really, their point is not to convince Trump, but to act according to what is ethical, an implicit acceptance of the nomination without saying anything is a problem itself, so the only acceptable is to make their opposition clear and open for anybody to see. The problem is you assuming they are trying to reason with an irrational person, they are not.

Quite well, remember operation “Warp Speed”

A huge mistake according to RFKjr,

He does, there are scientists that have other opposing medical opinions.

Scientists that apparently must remain nameless because naming them would make it clear they are not exactly references anybody would want to use because of a clear history of mistakes and falsehoods.

A huge mistake according to RFKjr,

He has a right to his opinion.

Scientists that apparently must remain nameless because naming them would make it clear they are not exactly references anybody would want to use because of a clear history of mistakes and falsehoods.

You think?

He has a right to his opinion.

But not to pretend he is right when he can be demonstrated as wrong, which includes mostly of what he holds an opinion about.

You think?

You only have to see how so many people keep mentioning those hundreds and thousands of scientists and doctors without ever mentioning names (or at least names that have not been completely destroyed by the unprofessional/criminal conduct of their owners). Not a single respected professional is ever mentioned.

He has been proved wrong repeatedly to the point he gives up trying to argue anything, his answer is to lie about what he said even if it has been terribly easy to prove (to him) that he actually said what he later claimed not. He has no argument, no evidence, just repetition of the same debunked claims and mistakes.

I think he would definitely be better than any establishment swamp rat. Can’t wait.

When it comes to people's health opinions are not good enough.

bass4funk

A huge mistake according to RFKjr,

> He has a right to his opinion.

Not if he becomes Secretary of Health.

BlacklabelToday 02:31 pm JST

The American people and voters knew who would be nominated and they voted for this candidate knowing all that.

At the time of the election, no one knew who the nominations would be.

I think he would definitely be better than any establishment swamp rat. Can’t wait

Hw would be much worse than anyone that is minimally appropriate for the post, as people with much more experience and knowledge of what it takes to do the job are explicitly saying.

muh democracy in action!

You understand that when you use the appeal to popularity fallacy against the argument that someone is completely wrong and inadequate for a position, you are recognizing the criticism is true, and you are only arguing that he is popular in spite of being wrong and inadequate, right?

RFK Jr., like rest of Trump Admin, are agents of change, disruption and progress. Not more of the old, tired $playbook of "business as usual" in the beltway/DC.

RFK and Trump cabinet members in general, not trying to get rich, rather they're there to solve problems, possible because of their successful lives OUTSIDE of Govt.!

At the time of the election, no one knew who the nominations would be.

sure we did.

”somebody the left would hate and complain about”

for all positions.

seriously you thought RFK Jr. wouldn’t be nominated? This was a surprise to you?

man that election result must have been shocking then.

He has a right to his opinion.

Your position amounts to:

"Warpspeed is great! Also RFK Jr is great for opposing Warpseed!"

I would not take the advice of an unqualified doctor or anyone lacking extensive healthcare experience.

But would you take advice from a doctor who has considerable conflicts of interest?

We need RFKjr to clean up the entire health system in the US, and hopefully other countries will follow.

being wrong and inadequate, right?

Speaking of bring wrong, remember when you told me that people who refused the vaccine would NOT get their jobs back and would NOT get financial damages paid.

Now THAT was wrong. lol

Taking health advice from a clearly unhealthy, obese government puppet parroting propaganda from pharmaceutical conglomerates is like hiring a pyromaniac to teach fire safety - blind faith in their "expertise" only burns your health while they profit from the ashes of your ignorance.

So if an overweight person tells you not to smoke you can safely conclude that smoking is good for you then, right?

Not if he becomes Secretary of Health.

I disagree

"Warpspeed is great!

Yes.

Also RFK Jr is great for opposing Warpseed

His choice, his right.

But would you take advice from a doctor who has considerable conflicts of interest?

We need RFKjr to clean up the entire health system in the US, and hopefully other countries will follow.

It depends upon the quality of the advice and its correlation with said conflict of interest.

FYI, US #1 MOST $corrupt$ healthcare, food & public health systems bar NONE. Hence, opportunity for RFK!

bass4funk

Not if he becomes Secretary of Health.

I disagree

That is your opinion. Healthcare decisions should be based on science, not on opinions.

So if an overweight person tells you not to smoke you can safely conclude that smoking is good for you then, right?

Huh? Let's unpack this nonsensical false equivalency. An overweight person telling you not to smoke is the same as a compulsive gambler lecturing you on saving money - hypocrisy erodes credibility. The issue here isn't the message; it's the messenger. Big Pharma and Big Food have created an epidemic of obesity while marketing quick fixes like pills and processed junk that do nothing but fuel their profits. And these same unhealthy mouthpieces think they can lecture us on health? Sorry, but if you're a walking advertisement for poor lifestyle choices and obesity, your advice holds as much weight as the junk science backing your processed food diet. Try again.

RFK Jr., like rest of Trump Admin, are agents of change, disruption and progress

Going backwards is not progress, as the poor people of Samoa can testify.

*Taking health advice from a clearly unhealthy, obese government puppet parroting propaganda from pharmaceutical conglomerates is like hiring a pyromaniac to teach fire safety*

Still a terribly irrational and wrong proposition, if an oncologists say to you that smoking elevates importantly the risk of you dying from lung cancer he will be right even if he smokes. The problem with antiscientific bias is that people that systematically oppose valid scientific advice end up making arguments against the person saying the advice when they can't find anything to say about the advice itself, never realizing how invalid this is.

But would you take advice from a doctor who has considerable conflicts of interest?

When the advice is the same as what doctors without any conflict of interest give, of course. It makes no sense to pretend a conflict of interest is enough to make something false, Just because a company that makes helmets say they help against head injuries would this make it less true? obviously not.

If the advice corresponds to the global consensus of medicine (and supported by many doctors without any conflict of interest) then there is no problem, it would be deeply irrational (and unbelievable) to pretend everybody in the world is lying to you except the person that makes tens of thousands of dollars a week for repeating debunked claims about vaccines.

no it’s just criticism from your team for the sake of criticizing

Since you accept you have no argument against the criticism you are accepting it is true.

His choice, his right.

Yes, having opinions that make no sense is indeed a cherished right.

Healthcare decisions should be founded in science but are based on probabilities of various outcomes, which heavily depends on exact medical history and facts.

Nominations like RFK are in above vein, US voters hope RFK and others can move the needle at HHS and thus directly improve health outcomes for the US and even indirectly influence other relevant policy-makers X-US.

Tough being so right, but far more important to share!

Conspiracy theorists belong in basements watching trash podcasts designed for unpopular teenagers in between watching pornography and calling people cucks.

These people should be let nowhere near sharp objects let alone positions of authority and influence.

Preposterous person.

Voters rejected such unfounded conclusions about RFK, as he clearly helped propel Trump to victory, based upon many thousands of hours meeting with voters in nearly every state. Media RFK slander UTTERLY FAILED!!!

Huh? Let's unpack this nonsensical false equivalency.

This is not what false equivalence means, this is just using the same parameters you used in your argument in a different situation to make it more obvious how it makes no sense.

*hypocrisy erodes credibility**.*

Yet the advice would be completely correct and you would be wrong in rejecting it. Not to mention that there is no hypocrisy in giving perfectly valid advice even if the person giving it do not follow it. After all the advice is yours to take as long as you are interested in the outcome of following it. For all you know other people are fine with a different outcome.

Nominations like RFK are in above vein, US voters hope RFK and others can move the needle at HHS and thus directly improve health outcomes for the US and even indirectly influence other relevant policy-makers X-US.

Which, in view of the history and evidence surrounding him, is wrong. The people of Samoa had the same "hope" and RFKjr caused scores of dead children by facilitating an outbreak of measles that included most of the population

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/measles-in-samoa/

So, he already demonstrated that his personal gain justifies causing important public health damage and deaths, it makes no sense to expect the opposite.

Surely the crasser aspect of this is RFK ditching his independent run for the Presidency when he saw he had no chance and endorsing Trump in the full and clear knowledge that he’d be rewarded? If JFK were alive today he’d be turning in his grave

 If JFK were alive today he’d be turning in his grave

But if JFK were alive today he wouldn't be in a grave.