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© Thomson Reuters 2023.Musk accuses media of racism after newspapers drop 'Dilbert' cartoon
By Sheila Dang DALLAS©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
75 Comments
dagon
The woke media needs to stop discriminating against African-Americans like Musk.
African-Americans can have blood emerald mines too.
Musk's supposed inspiration, the socialist author Iain Banks, would be very disappoint.
Nemo
The billionaire son of a white diamond mine owner from Apartheid South Africa, the one who embraced whacky conspiracy theories and who is an obvious narcissist?
THIS is the guy we want commenting on race relations in America?
Cards fan
Rather rich considering he's the son of a man he maid his lucre from African blood diamonds.
Sorry Elon, rightwing reactionary isn't a race.
Bob Fosse
Maybe they were confused by the stupidity of the question. A question designed to create controversy and bait the low hanging fruit. As we saw yesterday.
Anyone of any colour can be racist. Responding to racism with more racism is not ok and there is no excusing adams.
Bob Fosse
The history of the phrase “it’s ok to be white” and its connections to white supremacy.
https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/its-okay-be-white
bass4funk
As an African-American, why not?
So whites can made fun of but not blacks or other races? Yeah, someone pinch me on that absurd logic.
Jimizo
Early start with the confusing retorts today.
Cards fan
Lol What? I said rightwing reactionary, I didn't mention anything about race.
And now I will: It amazes how old rich white guys like musk, and Adams will shout out how the deck is stacked against them from their vast piles of wealth.
wolfshine
It's always funny how when presented with an undeniable and inescapable reality, people (particularly left-leaning) will go out of their way to change the subject and divert the discussion to something that is more favorable to their narrative.
Elon is of course right. The media have been manipulating and essentially brainwashing blacks in the U.S. for about a decade now. Communistic University professors across the West have aided their cause, and as always, the Democratic party is always happy to pour gasoline on the fire, especially if it means they can snag another million votes on election day.
While police brutality rates continue to decline and greater economic opportunities for African Americans increase (as was the case before the George Floyd protests), the race relations issue continually seems to be getting worse. Meanwhile, none of the Democratic Party / Corporate virtue signalling seems to be helping blacks, or anyone for that matter.
The U.S. has been drifting apart and may be several countries in the future. Great for Russia and China. Not so great for the rest of the world.
Bob Fosse
Communistic? Across the West? There must be thousands. Can you name one?
Desert Tortoise
Not narcissistic. He is on the Autism Spectrum and probably never received any form of therapy for it. You can read up about Autism Spectrum Disorder on your own. I have a little boy who suffers from it. They are all about themselves, the Au in Autism, but it is not the same as narcism. Very different in fact.
Desert Tortoise
Communistic University professors across the West have aided their cause
Anyone who defies the white power structure in any meaningful way is automatically labeled a communist even they are, as is my case, a free market economist. Having degrees in economics and being a military officer doesn't blind me to the dark side of American history nor does it blind me from seeing the racism that is everywhere. Unfortunately the small community in which I now live forcibly reminds me of that racism with the free use of the N word and disparaging terms for Native Americans. It is right in my face where I live so calling someone a communist for stating the obvious is not credible.
Superlib
This is the hill he's fighting for?
Desert Tortoise
As for Dilbert, the damage is done. It is like a saying we have in the Navy, "one aw-sh_t cancels all attaboys". I can't un-remember what the author of Dilbert said and every time I see a Dilbert cartoon his words come back. Dilbert will never again be funny for me.
Nemo
I would submit that one can be both.
And as Elon is a full-fledged adult, responsible for his own words and utterances, he bears more responsibility for what comes out of his mouth regardless of where he falls on the spectrum.
He doesn't get a pass for being rich, popular or for not treating a treatable condition.
itsonlyrocknroll
For a moment I was prepared give Scott Adams a the benefit of the doubt.
ill Judged and naive, Adams is a race baiter, matched only by his inflated ego and attention seeking I am not surprised for a moment Musk gives his two penny worth.
Episode 2030 Scott Adams: Welcome To The Third Act. Don't Try This At Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYXkMieE0CA
If his career is flushed down the toilet, Adams pulled the handle. All his ranting, instigated his own beasting.
bass4funk
I am sure he is aware of this, it’s a conversation worth having, but it seems like the left once again wants to throw rocks and refuses to listen to dissenting viewpoints, then what is the purpose of even having a conversation when you want a one-sided leftist echoes-chamber.
Don’t thing he wants a pass. Not his style, I think he’s making a very valid argument.
Alfie Noakes
It's been widely known for years that Adams held racist views, so his rant isn't really surprising. The latest herd-smear on Musk is surely in response to his tweet that "Nobody is pushing this war more than Nuland," not the kind of thing even a Pentagon contractor like Musk can say in the current climate of war hysteria.
Lord Dartmouth
It's definitely OK to be white....in theory. In reality, we are increasingly discriminated against.
Raw Beer
That is a gross misrepresentation of Adams' comments. I recommend people listen to his full comment.
bass4funk
100% agree
Jimizo
Did he say white people should get away from black people?
Was that taken out of context?
Genuine question.
bass4funk
I have a question, when you listen to hip-hop songs, you hear constantly how blacks talk about uprising and whites, oppression, and trying to get away from whites, you don’t see that as being racist? If not, why?
Genuine question.
Superlib
So Musk and Adams are on the right.
Got it. And it makes sense.
lincolnman
Hey Elon, the guy you're defending said; "white Americans should get the hell away from Black people". He didn't say "some" Black people, or "violent" Black people - he said all...
So how many Black employees do you have at Tesla and Space X? Going to stay "the hell away from them"?
And all those Black customers for a Tesla? I guess you're trying to make Tesla the official brand of the KKK...
Keep running your mouth and you'll be following your friend from Mar-A-Lago into bankruptcy court...
Jimizo
I’m not dodging here, but could you provide me with some lyrics and I’ll judge based on those individual ideas. Do they all say the same thing? I can’t imagine they do.
What do you think of Adams’ statement here about white people getting away from black people?
Blacklabel
Day 2 of white people yelling at other white people as to why they wont accept the racism directed at them from Blacks like good little “white guilt” leftists.
didn’t realize some types of racism is ok depending on who is the target of it.
isnt all racism unacceptable and to be condemned?
Bob Fosse
Yes.
“it’s ok to be white” is a troll phrase designed to stir up racial tensions. Many fell for it apparently.
bass4funk
Just listen to Ice Cube, Public Enemy, E-40, Busta, Lil’ Kim just to name a few and no, I didn't prepare my rap lyric list for today's thread, but it's there.
Again, you hear some blacks say it as well, either way, it's all wrong, but they have a right to their opinion.
Superlib
"A black person said something similar once so Adams should be ignored."
bass4funk
There is absolutely nothing wrong to take pride in your race or culture.
Blacklabel
That’s the dumbest and least informative link I have ever clicked. Of course it’s the ADL.
Someone on 4chan is not any type of confirmation of anything.
So who “fell for” it?
The Black people who said NO it’s not ok for others to be another skin color. Otherwise known as…..”racists”.
Bob Fosse
I doubt that.
See, that’s what I mean. It’s a dumb statement meant to invite dumb responses.
plasticmonkey
Do you have any reaction to Adam's comment that white people should get away from black people? Claiming that "black people do it too" should have no relevance to the current stories about Adams and Musk.
plasticmonkey
Interesting. Can you explain why you are proud to be white?
Blacklabel
so the Black respondents were dumb?
Yet even 12 hours ago you knew nothing about this and were criticizing the survey question as dumb and no meaning.
So that you didnt have to criticize the response of people who also answered without knowing the “origins” same as you didn’t.
if this term is so obviously racial as your ADL nonsense claims why can I purchase a t shirt on Amazon saying this exact phrase?
Bob Fosse
You’re only just hearing about this now? It’s not a new phrase. You can purchase a Hitler tshirt on Amazon, as I said context is important.
Yes, yesterday I said it was a dumb survey. Today I said it was a dumb survey.
I didn’t say that. 26% answered a stupid question in a way that offends you, why they answered that way is anyone’s guess.
wallace
Given the long brutal history of the "whites" treatment of African Americans, slavery, segregation, and today's systemic racism it is no wonder that they feel alienated much of the time and speak out against in music.
Adams stated "whites" should not be associated with African Americans. Calling African Americans a hate group. Very clear what he is saying. Racism.
African Americans have been the victims.
Some Adam supporters are posting like there isn't any racism against African Americans.
Blacklabel
“Watch Jac Ross’ Powerful Video For ‘It’s OK To Be Black’
‘This song is a daily reminder…that it’s ok to be who you are – and boldly embrace what makes you YOU.’”
can order this right now:
https://ok2bapparel.com/products/its-ok-to-be-black-hoodie
bass4funk
I already answered that, no need in beating a dead horse.
Why? Because it doesn't make you feel good or it leaves room for a real discussion that covers all races and not just the once you want to dogpile on?
You are joking, right? Ok, so why is it ok to be proud to be black?
Jimizo
Oh, I thought you knew the lyrics you were talking about or could at least refer to the songs.
I agree that Adams has a right to his opinion, but do you see the idea of wanting white people to get away from black people as racist?
Bob Fosse
Again. 2 wrongs don’t make a right.
We already cleared this up:
Blacklabel
The ADL are the same race baiters who claim the “ok” sign is white supremacy signal from right wing racists.
while totally ignoring any time a leftist or a Black person uses it.
wallace
So "whites" are victims.
Bob Fosse
Ok. Since that set you off here’s a more general link with further information.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_okay_to_be_white
I know, this news story doesn’t also include every example of racism by everybody everywhere ever. It’s unfair. /s
Superlib
I guess? Maybe if we start the conversation condemning racism. Strange that you want this racist to lead the discussion overall
And by the way, you were the guy saying it's OK to not rent property to black people because of all the crime and drugs.
Should you be leading a discussion on racism?
bass4funk
I mean, take your pick with the artists I just mentioned, check Spotify or Apple, you can get the lyrics right there.
No, just in the same way blacks want to live in their own communities as well. Tell me, how many rich black people want to live in black communities? How many? And if they live in white communities which most of them do, is that racist? Can blacks according to liberal whites even be racist or are they exempt from that?
Genuine question.
Very, very true.
Blacklabel
Dare I ask how you would know that? have you complained to Amazon about it?
wallace
Adams has described himself as "about half German" and also has English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, Dutch, and a small amount of Native American ancestry.
wallace
When will the US become color blind? Not any time soon.
bass4funk
It's not an only US problem
wallace
bass4funk
The post is America/racism/Musk/Adams
Bob Fosse
I checked, to counter your point that “it’s ok to be white” is an inoffensive phrase because you can buy it in a T-shirt on Amazon.
Did you imagine another reason?
No. As I said, context is important. If someone wants to wear a t shirt of Hitler or the phrase “it’s ok to be white” I actually would find that helpful and avoid that person.
bass4funk
I know, but I am just saying race is not an only US issue
wolfshine
Thousands off the top of my head? Of course not. One, or several? Easily. Because I took their courses when I was a student. I wont name drop, because they are not public figures and doxxing is wrong.
You see, I didn't shy away from exposing myself to differing philosophies or ideas. I purposefully entered those courses, because I wanted to understand those ideas. After learning more about them and immersing myself in the various theories, I discovered that they are actually much more nefarious than they were being portrayed. These people want to bring about a cultural revolution that destroys market economics, disrupts the nuclear family, and turns people of different backgrounds against each other. It's bad. And the reality is, the Western University system is totally compromised at this point, but people still have to go through the process in order to have a career.
This is why, despite many of the criticisms levelled against it, I generally support Japan's approach to higher education. It leans more in the direction of preparing people for the real world rather than trying to alter it through bizarre socioengineering.
wallace
It said to resolve your own issues first before attempting another's.
wallace
"No, just in the same way blacks want to live in their own communities as well. Tell me, how many rich black people want to live in black communities? How many? And if they live in white communities which most of them do, is that racist? Can blacks according to liberal whites even be racist or are they exempt from that? "
So much racism in that comment you would know it was written by a white dude.
The same guy blames African Americans for the gun homicides. The rising crime. The drugs pandemic.
bass4funk
What issues? I have none.
bass4funk
There was absolutely nothing racist about what I said, I was asking a very serious question that for some reason liberals don't want to answer.
No, I don't blame them, that's just stats, I just commented on them
Yes, pointing that out doesn't make one a racist.
RKL
Musk is absolutely right. That's what happens with a woke media.
Unfortunately, racial issues based on past practices of the UK were transplanted to the US.
The crimes and other issues from certain demographics are a leftover from the UK colonial regime, so that both societies still experience today those problems.
wallace
Blaming African Americans for all the ills of society is pure racism.
wallace
African Americans have a long brutal history and oppression and today still have to live with systemic racism. What is the reason whites are racist?
garypen
Is it?
“Based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from Black people. Just get the ** away,**” Adams said.
“Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there’s no fixing this. This can’t be fixed. So I don’t think it makes any sense as a white citizen of America to try to help Black citizens anymore."
The above is full enough for me.
Bob Fosse
But others shouldn’t and it’s part of a dangerous nefarious scheme to bring about a cultural revolution?
How did you escape their clutches? Why are other University level students not as immune as you?
RKL
I'm also concerned with the 26% of blacks who disagreed with the statement "It's ok to be white", and the 21% who said they were not sure. Adams is only one guy.
I'd like to see more commentary on the almost 50% of blacks who did not give full approval to the above statement.
That's scary.
Good on Elon for speaking out against the woke, racist media.
bass4funk
Not all, of course, won't, but a lot, yes. Not my thinking, just going by the FBI stats.
A lot.
They did, and so did the Native Americans the Jews, the Armenians, and the Ainu. And no, I do not buy the systematic racist argument, we do have racism, but nowhere near the levels of 60 years ago, some of the richest people in America are black, so if it's that racist then why are there so many rich and powerful black people in the US? Nowhere else on the planet can a black man become President or PM other than the US, no other place, so it's not the US that has a problem with race, it's the leftist narrative orchestrated by liberals into thinking that whites are all oppressors and racists and blacks are all victims, that's wrong, inaccurate and preaching self-division.
dagon
Recently on topics referencing race you have these rightists inserting their "cultural Marxism" meme very clumsily from multiple accounts. They push that embracing Anglo-Saxon traditional Christian culture is the real "freedom" for minorities and the disenfranchised in a populist appeal totally divorced from economic realities.
Oligopolic rentiers have disrupted market economics.
Late stage financialization has disrupted families.
Billionaire funded media outlets sow division to buoy corporate interests.
Musk is only the latest oligarch to find race is a convenient way to distract from class consciousness and their own privilege.
wallace
bass4funk
You are always quick to blame African Americans.
That means you have none.
Only Native Americans are associated with the US. Yes, they too were brutalized and suffered systemic racism. There are tribal areas without electricity or running water.
You did not answer the question. "Why are whites racist".
How many billionaires are in the US? How many billionaires are African Americans? What is the median wage for whites compared with African Americans?
Really. Rishi Sunak, an ethnic Indian is the prime minister of the UK. Using the guy you hate to prop up your opinions.
Racial Inequality in the United States
https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/racial-inequality-in-the-united-states
It is easy to see you don't experience racism or discrimination on a daily basis.
Blacklabel
this is irrelevant to me, but what do you say to the "6 African Americans in your family" when they ask you the same question?
Blacklabel
the latest crime stats put African Americans are responsible for over 60% of murders in the USA for the first time.
The stats had to combine Whites and Hispanics (2 entirely different racial groups, arent they) into White/Hispanic just to get 30% of the remaining.
Bob Fosse
Please explain the relevance of this.
dagon
This poster has used the race card for the right "as a black man" (?) so let me say this:
It is boring. Let me say that as a person of mixed Afro-Caribbean American ancestry even amongst very colorist relatives I have never encountered a "black man" who so consistently deprecated their own race and was so quick to leap to the defense of Caucasian billionaires.
Just sayin.
Nemo
I never knew that white men in America were such an aggrieved class in need of protection from systemic racism.
If only they had an interest group to advocate on their behalf….
An organization that one could join….
Like a community or a Klann of like-minded individuals who are also victims of this horrible discrimination based only upon the color of their skin….
Blacklabel
race card, isnt it? Why did you feel the need to try to identify your own race to try to add some credibility to your comments. "as a person of...." I stop listening. Your point should stand on its own.
While also claiming others have no credibility just due to their race and them not acting the way you think a member of their race should?