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 “The people have spoken and so it shall be.”

Musk is another narcissistically impaired privileged caste male who's becoming increasingly delusional, he's supportive of a wack conspiracist like Alex Jones while also supportive of the pizzagate tales ( As I recall the nuts pushing that theory claim there are pizza parlors where pedo-cannibals -in this case anti-fascists - are served babies by alien reptiles). His backers in China and Russia must be so proud of him as he and others in the media like Murdoch try to further split and weaken the US as a democracy, and help the extremist wing of Republicans backing the previous guy. The US government should no longer have contracts with Musk, let him rely on Beijing for padding his and the CCP's fortunes. X-Twitter is trying to replace the National Enquirer as the media source of choice for the least reasonable 'conservatives', and others in the extreme far right

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Musk restores X account of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones

Who cares?

Only the leftists. Apparently only leftist free speech is allowed.

Big deal about nuthin.

Last time I checked, pizza gate followers weren't burning down cities and destroying private businesses like the left organizations do. Is BLM and ANTIFA still allowed on X? Hmmmm......

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@ZZbits: Only the leftists. Apparently only leftist free speech is allowed.

Onlthe most extreme in the extreme right think telling blatant lies should be protected by free speech, and that violently attacking the US Congress should also be protected.

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Musk? Trump? Who is worse? Well, it's pretty hard to tell. Maybe Alex Jones. He shot his mouth off and then justifiably had to pay and he's still got his money. Cronies stick together.

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I find it funny that people only praise democracy when it supports their efforts and prevents "extremists" from taking power, but then turn around and declare that democracy of "broken" when it doesn't support them and props up "populists".

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Last time I checked, pizza gate followers

Yeah, they were only carrying guns into pizza shops to shoot people with over nonsensical lies. Big deal. ;)

weren't burning down cities

Really? What cities have been burnt down?

like the left organizations do.

And yet the FBI sites rightwing terrorism, not leftwing terrorism, as one the threats to the US. Hmmm...;)

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Musk can help Alex Jones pay the families of the kids that were shot up in their classrooms.

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Musk posted a poll on Saturday asking if Jones should be reinstated, with the results showing 70% of those who responded in favor. Early Sunday, Musk tweeted, “The people have spoken and so it shall be.”

In Iain M. Banks Culture series, crucial decisions like for war are done by vote query to neural interface among the Culturea trillions of citizens.

Xiitter is querying a user base that more and more resembles 4ch.

Musk, you are no Iain Banks Culture Mind.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2018/jun/19/elon-musk-iain-banks-culture-novels

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Onlthe most extreme in the extreme right think telling blatant lies should be protected by free speech,

More then enough people on the Left agree that lying is "free speech". Do you remember how many organizations were complaining about the "unjust persecution" and fines they received for lying about Rittenhouse, Sandmann, and Depp?

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Good news!!

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More then enough people on the Left agree that lying is "free speech". Do you remember how many organizations were complaining about the "unjust persecution" and fines they received for lying about Rittenhouse, Sandmann, and Depp?

Roping in a lot of people with your wildly imprecise ledt and right there, but that is a usual tires tactic of the pop eight.

Depp seems no fan of Trump by the way.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2017/jun/23/johnny-depp-jokes-about-killing-trump-in-glastonbury-appearance

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The harder the government tries to suppress dissent, the stronger that dissent will become

What's that got to do with a private platform banning a user for repeated blatant violations of TOC? Nothing.

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Musk is another narcissistically impaired privileged caste male who's becoming increasingly delusional,

Because the left can’t control him.

he's supportive of a wack conspiracist like Alex Jones while also supportive of the pizzagate tales

Not even sure what time that is, but Dems have their own conspiratorial beliefs as well.

His backers in China and Russia must be so proud of him as he and others in the media like Murdoch try to further split and weaken the US as a democracy,

No, this administration has had a three year head start in that department.

and help the extremist wing of Republicans backing the previous guy.

Wait, but if he were to back the extremist liberal that would be acceptable? Why?

The US government should no longer have contracts with Musk, let him rely on Beijing for padding his and the CCP's fortunes.

If the U.S. is that stupid and by indications over the last two years that they are by the disastrous decision policies they made, go for it.

X-Twitter is trying to replace the National Enquirer

That would be the New York Times to be more precise

as the media source of choice for the least reasonable 'conservatives', and others in the extreme far right

No, the left is just angry that Musk believes in democracy and thinks everyone should have a voice and should be allowed to speak. I think the Squad as radical as their views are have the right to be heard, I don’t think they should be in government, but as private citizens, knock yourself out if people want to hear that garbage.

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Thuban

The harder the government tries to suppress dissent, the stronger that dissent will become.

Completely irrelevant, and the government isn't trying to suppress dissent..., so...

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Who cares?

Only the leftists.

I’m not so sure. He’s very popular among the 9/11 conspiracy types along with stolen election, scamdemic, proxy war, climate change a hoax etc. free thinkers. Former president Trump has expressed admiration. Jones is high profile.

On the other hand, he’s reviled by many on the left and right for animating morons and he did promote the idea that parents who lost their kids in a filthy massacre were liars. Many free thinkers parroted the idea that he got everything right apart from that.

Twitter is obviously in trouble but I’m not sure turning it into a pub full of hammered dead beats is the right way to go.

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bass4funk

No, the left is just angry that Musk believes in democracy and thinks everyone should have a voice and should be allowed to speak.

Except Indians that are critical of Modi. He doesn't want them to have a voice.

Oh, and Turks critical of Erdogan near an election. He doesn't want them to have a voice.

Who still thinks that Elon is a free speech absolutist? He's not.

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Depp seems no fan of Trump by the way.

So what? Are you saying that someone doesn't deserve my sympathy because we disagree on a political issue? Or, that I have to divide the world into a "Friend/Enemy" distinction?

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Well if Jones gets his business back together that will be more money for his victim's settlements.

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Except Indians that are critical of Modi. He doesn't want them to have a voice.

That’s his platform, if Modi doesn’t like it, you have threads, TikTok

Oh, and Turks critical of Erdogan near an election. He doesn't want them to have a voice.

The same applies to them

Who still thinks that Elon is a free speech absolutist? He's not.

I disagree. Because he’s using his free speech to say, No. so these people can use their free speech and try a different platform. Enough of them out there.

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2020hindsights Today 07:43 am JST

the government isn't trying to suppress dissent

So then what is this about? https://youtu.be/C-KEAgFziJU

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knock yourself out if people want to hear that garbage.

Trump and Jones?

The Squad are talking about univwesal health care and taxation;ike Eisenhower that ;ead to broad baaes wealth.

Same as school massacre stage actors, Jewish space lasers and Great Replacement theory?

One thing is not like the other.

That is discernment.

And the crux of uninhibited freeze peach.

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jeffy

the government isn't trying to suppress dissent

So then what is this about? https://youtu.be/C-KEAgFziJU

Are you trying to say that the Trump administration tried to suppress dissent?

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bass4funk

Except Indians that are critical of Modi. He doesn't want them to have a voice.

That’s his platform, if Modi doesn’t like it, you have threads, TikTok

But I thought you said: "Musk ... thinks everyone should have a voice and should be allowed to speak"

I guess not.

And I guess you were fine when Trump got banned on Twitter. Plenty of other platforms out there.

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Trump and Jones?

Quite the opposite

The Squad are talking about univwesal health care and taxation;ike Eisenhower that ;ead to broad baaes wealth.

I think it’s the way the message is presented, the Squad just do it in a more radical militant and antisemitic way.

Same as school massacre stage actors, Jewish space lasers and Great Replacement theory?

When the government refuses to engage with its citizens be truthful, conspiracy theories will arise

One thing is not like the other.

True

That is discernment.

And the crux of uninhibited freeze peach.

Uh-huh, lol

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That’s his platform, if Modi doesn’t like it, you have threads, TikTok

Well Trump doesn't like it and Trump is not back at X even though Musk allowed Trump back in.

Enough of them out there.

Exactly. Trump made TrumpBook all for himself since he's not returning to Musk's X. If your name is Mike then you can make MikeBook for example all for yourself. Why is everyone complaining? Now the big question has to do with advertisers. Will they return? Also Andrew Tate promised millions and millions to help X.

Also remember that Musk never wanted to buy Twitter. The courts forced him to.

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The harder the government tries to suppress dissent, the stronger that dissent will become.

Explain what this has to do with X and musk.

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Now the big question has to do with advertisers. Will they return?

I doubt it. NOT because of anything having to do with how Musk handles the platform, but because doing so would lower the a company's ESG rating, which could threaten their credit lines as a result.

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Who still thinks that Elon is a free speech absolutist? He's not.

I disagree. Because he’s using his free speech to say, No. so these people can use their free speech and try a different platform. Enough of them out there.

All the times you complained before about people being ‘banned’ on twitter was just Twitter saying ‘no’. Plenty of other platforms out there. Right?

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lower the a company's ESG rating

But this was not a problem before Musk. Musk has no mouth filter and calls lots of people pedophiles like Vern Unsworth. Musk has hair plugs but Unsworth doesn't. Why are Trump people so obsessed with pedophiles? Why did Musk call Unsworth a pedophile?

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2020hindsights Today 08:06 am JST

Are you trying to say that the Trump administration tried to suppress dissent?

Darrell Issa: "Today is not about President Trump. The actions that occurred during his administration are available for everyone to look at. Our witnesses today are asking and answering effectively questions about the effects of suppression of free speech."

Seems like the hearing is not about Trump, but government pressuring tech companies to censor users. It would thus appear that the government is trying to suppress dissent. Whether done by a Republican or Democrat administration, I find this problematic. How about you?

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Jones is filth.

Musk letting back on because an unscientific poll dominated by conspiracy theorists and then dodging with “The people have decided” just shows that he is an unscrupulous jerk as well. I hope that every remaining advertiser abandons Twitter and that the company goes bankrupt.

It really has turned into a septic tank of white supremacy, conspiracy theories and disinformation.

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The harder the government tries to suppress dissent, the stronger that dissent will become.

that’s not particularly funny, but coming from the OP it’s probably the funniest thing I’ll read all day

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If people don't like what Jones has to say, there is a choice . . .

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jeffy

Are you trying to say that the Trump administration tried to suppress dissent?

Seems like the hearing is not about Trump, but government pressuring tech companies to censor users. It would thus appear that the government is trying to suppress dissent. Whether done by a Republican or Democrat administration, I find this problematic. How about you?

Sure. But only the Trump administration tried to get Twitter to censor users.

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If people don't like what Jones has to say, there is a choice . . .

They do. Bunch of major advertisers made their choice a while ago to up and leave after some rather terrible comments made by Musk. He counters by allowing Jones back. It seems like he’s trying to grow the user base again.

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All the times you complained before about people being ‘banned’ on twitter was just Twitter saying ‘no’. Plenty of other platforms out there. Right?

Absolutely.

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2020hindsights Today 08:43 am JST

But only the Trump administration tried to get Twitter to censor users.

So when Clarke Humphrey, Digital Director for the COVID-19 Response Team for the Biden administration, e-mails Twitter on 23 Jan 2021 "Hey folks— Wanted to flag the below tweet and am wondering if we can get moving on the process for having it removed ASAP ... And then if we can keep an eye out for tweets that fall in this same ~genre that would be great," you don't see that as government pressure? OK.

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He counters by allowing Jones back. It seems like he’s trying to grow the user base again

I was thinking the same but he is taking the brand downmarket. Jones became seriously toxic after the school shooting trash he was promoting.

Leaving Twitter populated by dregs doesn’t sound like a winning strategy.

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How is that even related to the conversation?

He’s (or she’s) talking about the types of things said… which is related… it is irrelevant what word was used, but certainly relevant that any words have been used to attack others in such a way.

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No, the left is just angry that Musk believes in democracy and thinks everyone should have a voice and should be allowed to speak. 

Hmmm....

"He has taken an especially hostile approach to the press, vowing to “rout the fake news media," calling reporters "THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!" and saying outlets like NBC News and MSNBC should be investigated for treason."

https://japantoday.com/category/features/opinions/trump%27s-vow-to-only-be-a-dictator-on-%27day-one%27-follows-growing-worry-over-his-authoritarian-rhetoric#comment-3976596

Sure sounds like someone doesn't support democracy and isn't for free speech...

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I was thinking the same but he is taking the brand downmarket. Jones became seriously toxic after the school shooting trash he was promoting. 

Yeah there’s nothing good about the guy being given a platform again.

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All the times you complained before about people being ‘banned’ on twitter was just Twitter saying ‘no’. Plenty of other platforms out there. Right?

Absolutely.

You were quite adamant at the time that Twitter were violating the first amendment. I’m glad to see you have changed your perspective.

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Welcome back, lunatic fascist clown...

Continue to entertain your far-right fanatical clowns.. LOL!!..

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jeffy

But only the Trump administration tried to get Twitter to censor users.

So when Clarke Humphrey, Digital Director for the COVID-19 Response Team for the Biden administration, e-mails Twitter on 23 Jan 2021 "Hey folks— Wanted to flag the below tweet and am wondering if we can get moving on the process for having it removed ASAP ... And then if we can keep an eye out for tweets that fall in this same ~genre that would be great," you don't see that as government pressure?

No. It's informing Twitter of Tweets that break Twitter's TOS rules.

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Elon Musk has restored the X account of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, pointing to a poll on the social media platform formerly known as Twitter that came out in favor of the Infowars host who repeatedly called the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting a hoax.

Vermin protecting vermin...now this miscreant can sell hated-filled books and other filth to the MAGA masses and scam them out of more of their money. Jones knows an easy "mark" when he sees them...

It poses new uncertainty for advertisers, who have fled X over concerns about hate speech appearing alongside their ads, and is the latest divisive public personality to get back their banned account.

From $44 billion to less than $15 billion and going lower each day...some business genius...

Musk posted a poll on Saturday asking if Jones should be reinstated, with the results showing 70% of those who responded in favor. Early Sunday, Musk tweeted, “The people have spoken and so it shall be.”

Sounds to me like it was "rigged"...maybe by Ray Epps and Hugo Chavez...

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2020hindsights Today 09:03 am JST

No. It's informing Twitter of Tweets that break Twitter's TOS rules.

And this is the government's job? What was Twitter's rule that was broken?

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@thuban: The harder the government tries to suppress dissent, the stronger that dissent will become.

And yet there is little if any dissent in nations like Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Saudi Arabia, so what does that say about people living there, that they are not strong or that their governments have them by the neck?

And what does that also say about people living in other countries supporting those nations?

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You were quite adamant at the time that Twitter were violating the first amendment. I’m glad to see you have changed your perspective.

I wasn’t adamant, I thought it was just hilarious that the less demand free speech that hypocrisy won’t allow them, they tried for two years to silence many conservative as they could, that backfired, and now they’re crying outrage, it’s hilarious.

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Leaving Twitter populated by dregs doesn’t sound like a winning strategy.

Hmmm…Not sure about that one.

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Sure sounds like someone doesn't support democracy and isn't for free speech...

Neither did the third U.S. president: "I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false."

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At this point it is almost refreshing to see how Musk gave up pretending to be rational and is now actively collecting the worst possible people to his platform.

I am looking forward to the mental contortions Yaccarino will need to do to say this is something positive and how companies should be proud to have their ads along with Jones lies and hate.

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Another nail in the coffin of X. As it's advertising revenues don't up, it's value is collapsing. Musk is doubling down, hoping to lure the far right away from places like Telegram. But a small increase in followers of accounts like Jones' will not steady the sinking ship.

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I wasn’t adamant, I thought it was just hilarious that the less demand free speech that hypocrisy won’t allow them

Well, that clears things up.

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I still can't figure out why the MAGA-masses defend Musk, owner of Telsa, the largest EV manufacturer in the world, who builds cars in China that he sells in North America...

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-exporting-china-made-evs-to-north-america-reveals-a-major-problem-215971.html

When Trump has said EVs are a "hoax" and companies that build and sell EV are "taking American jobs" since "they'll all be built in China"...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-latest-villain-electric-vehicles-191408155.html

Well, he's right about one manufacturer building in China...they guy all the MAGA-fans here are defending...

MAGA-world - where you still love the guy that is selling you a Chinese-made car....and love the guy that tells you the "vaccine is safe and it works"...

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I still can't figure out why the MAGA-masses defend Musk

Because he's funny guy who says exactly what he's thinking and the consequences be damned. It's not that hard to understand.

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As as addendum to my previous post,

2020hindsights Today 09:03 am JST

No. It's informing Twitter of Tweets that break Twitter's TOS rules.

If Humphrey’s e-mail said something along the lines of, “To whom it may concern, I just wanted to bring a tweet to your attention that appears to be in violation of your terms of service,” then I could agree with your characterization that this e-mail as one that simply intends to “inform” Twitter. As it stands, Humphrey takes it upon himself to make the call, thus his use of the word “flag,” then, speaking as if a team leader with his use of “we,” proposes to his apparent subordinates the removal of it and similar posts in the future. His use of the informal greeting “hey folks” at the beginning of the message shows that he already has an established relationship with the “folks” at Twitter so that from just this e-mail alone one can assume that there are others displaying similar interpersonal dynamics. Humphrey is thus doing more than “informing,” he is speaking from a position of power about the desired course Twitter is to take.

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Then X gets sold for property value only, we will be done dealing with the current owners. The sooner, the better. Musk wants X to be chat, video, conferencing, and a payment platform. For that to happen, people need to trust the leaders and he's been excellent at destroying trust. He's his own worst enemy, but can't see it.

Alex Jones doesn't deserve to be heard anywhere except where he can yell from his own property. He is less than human based on nasty actions that the American culture has legally ruled cannot be allowed. Freedom of speech isn't absolute and never has been. Lying about others has never been legal, especially when it can be trivially proven incorrect.

Alex needs his speech to be limited until he pays what he owes to all those people the court found he owed $1.5B. Then we can talk about restoring some of his rights, but still with limitations against lying.

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jeffy

No. It's informing Twitter of Tweets that break Twitter's TOS rules.

And this is the government's job?

In the service of the public interest, yes.

What was Twitter's rule that was broken?

Rules about Tweeting COVID 19 misinformation.

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The lefties love to throw around words like”vermin” and “filth”.

Reminiscent of communist show trials and “struggle sessions”.

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Kanagawa ExpatToday  09:39 am JST

love watching the leftist on here loose it! Some of you are far bigger conspiracy theorists than Alex Jones! Good for Elon to allow him back. Alex Jones has been right on many subjects over the years.

It's hilarious, isn't it! The mere mention of Jones' name sends them into frothing messes. Musk knows this, of course, and I think one of the main reasons he's letting Alex back on is to emphasise to the general public that the leftists kicking up such a fuss are key reasons why Western culture is spiralling down the drain ever faster. They simply can't tolerate opposition and will resort to anything to silence their critics.

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 lefties love to throw around words like”vermin” and “filth”.

I am not a lefty. And when one profit off of objective lies regarding the mass murder of children that results in the organized terrorism of their bereft parents, one is objectively defined as “filth”.

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jeffy

Humphrey is thus doing more than “informing,” he is speaking from a position of power about the desired course Twitter is to take.

No he isn't. Twitter is a private company and Humphrey has no authority to force Twitter to do anything. Twitter obviously agreed with Humphrey that the Tweets broke Twitter's TOS.

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They simply can't tolerate opposition and will resort to anything to silence their critics.

You mentioning that reminds of the day after Musk bought the site. Where all the progressive left for alternative platforms (For about five minutes), and those platforms immediately had to issue site-wide notices that the "Report" feature was ONLY there to report illegal content, NOT silence people you disagree with.

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Lefties mad and sad- I’m not reading all that.

such anger and complaint for a platform they don’t even use.

Don’t like Alex Jones being there? Don’t log on, don’t read it.

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It's hilarious, isn't it! The mere mention of Jones' name sends them into frothing messes. Musk knows this, of course, and I think one of the main reasons he's letting Alex back on is to emphasise to the general public that the leftists kicking up such a fuss are key reasons why Western culture is spiralling down the drain ever faster. They simply can't tolerate opposition and will resort to anything to silence their critics

Not a simple left/right thing. You need to get out of your media bubble.

Plenty of people across the political spectrum have a problem with ‘Alex’.

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The lefties love to throw around words like ”vermin” and “filth”.

Especially this "Lefty"....

*At a recent rally, former President Donald Trump used language in a speech that echoed Adolf Hitler, comparing his political opponents to *"vermin."

*"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country," he told a New Hampshire crowd.*

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213746885/trump-vermin-hitler-immigration-authoritarian-republican-primary

Reminiscent of communist show trials and “struggle sessions”.

Well, he did say Putin was a "genius"...

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Does anyone want to make a case for Alex Jones, ‘( or if you prefer Alex’ or ‘AJ’ ) for his promotion of the idea that the parents of the murdered children were lying?

Save the whataboutery, leftist, silencing, MSM thing for a moment and make the case for that.

Judge this one on its own merits.

The floor is yours.

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MAGA-world....

Where they rant that China is our No. 1 enemy, that they are trying to destroy our country, that they are the root of all evil...

Then they go out and buy Trump Collection clothing, and a Musk-owned Tesla....both made in China...

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MAGA-world....

Where they rant that China is our No. 1 enemy, that they are trying to destroy our country, that they are the root of all evil...

Then they go out and buy Trump Collection clothing, and a Musk-owned Tesla....both made in China...

Has zero to do with Alex Jones returning to X. Thanks for playing though.

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Not a simple left/right thing. You need to get out of your media bubble. 

Plenty of people across the political spectrum have a problem with ‘Alex’.

It predominantly is, but to be fair, many right-leaning authoritarian types hate him too. The neocons and their supporters are a good example, as Jones was one of the most vocal opponents of the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions and the subsequent money-printing exercises for the major defence contractors.

So you're right! But only by accident.

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Has zero to do with Alex Jones returning to X.

But Trump is not returning to X

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2020hindsights Today 09:54 am JST

In the service of the public interest, yes.

According to Wikipedia,

Most broadly, the purpose of the censorship apparatus is to maintain the stability of the status quo system of governance under the CCP. This includes political censorship as well as censorship of content deemed obscene and harmful to public morality, although the latter justification can be used as a means to censor political topics as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_China

Is China's censorship justifiable since it is done in the public interest?

Rules about Tweeting COVID 19 misinformation.

But was it misinformation? It seems to me in this case Kennedy's claims are unverified, but not impossible. Now this is the interesting part, media outlets, such as NBC News reported:

The Fulton County Medical Examiner's office said Monday that Aaron, considered one of the greatest all-around players in baseball history, died of natural causes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/boomerang-effect-hank-aaron-s-death-falsely-linked-covid-vaccine-n1255735

After these reports Kennedy spoke with the Fulton County Medical Examiner's office. He reports,

[T]he Fulton County coroner’s office denies that any of its staff ever saw Aaron’s body, much less conducted an examination. Candace, a medical examiner investigator for the Fulton County coroner’s office, told me, “His body was never here. We declined jurisdiction. There was never any autopsy.”

Candace explained that since Aaron’s personal physician assumed his death was from “natural causes,” there was never any necropsy or postmortem investigation. By implying that the Fulton County coroner conducted an autopsy, the New York Times and other media outlets deceived their readers.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/national-media-vaccine-misinformation-hank-aaron/

Thus while it appears that while Kennedy's implication that Aaron's death was related to the vaccine is unsubstantiated, the media's claim that he died of "natural causes" is equally unsubstantiated and worse, appears to be supported by fabricated evidence. And so, in the absence of any evidence as to why Hank Aaron died, any proposed cause could be labelled "misinformation."

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Save the whataboutery, leftist, silencing, MSM thing for a moment and make the case for that. 

Judge this one on its own merits. 

The floor is yours.

Nobody is going to be right about everything all the time. He got this one wrong and is paying a very heavy price for it.

Happy?

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It says a lot.

oh does it now really? 

what does it say, as an example?

It says that you support platforming a man who hides his assets to escape civil judgements against him.

It says you support platforming a man who profited by lying about the mass-murder of children.

It says that you think objective fact doesn’t matter.

It says you do not object to the parents of murdered parents being doxxed and terrorized as a direct result of Jones’ actions.

It’s say as much or more than choosing the mug shot for a convicted sex offender as one’s profile picture.

That’s what it says.

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It predominantly is, but to be fair, many right-leaning authoritarian types hate him too. The neocons and their supporters are a good example, as Jones was one of the most vocal opponents of the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions and the subsequent money-printing exercises for the major defence contractors

What did you think of ‘Alex’ promoting the idea the parents of murdered children were lying?

This is more pertinent.

I can understand why you are avoiding it but it’s not doing your case any favours.

You do see this, don’t you?

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You can tell a lot about a person by the company he/she keeps. Musk is obviously way, way out there.

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I can understand why you are avoiding it but it’s not doing your case any favours. 

You do see this, don’t you?

Read my post above.

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Nobody is going to be right about everything all the time. He got this one wrong and is paying a very heavy price for it. 

Happy?

How weak.

I thought what he did was disgusting. Parents devastated after losing their kids in a massacre and then being called liars by Jones and his moronic followers?

Oh, he just made a mistake?

Pathetic.

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jeffy

Is China's censorship justifiable since it is done in the public interest?

Humpherey isn't censoring anything. He is informing Twitter of Covid 19 misinformation, which should be removed in the public interest.

Rules about Tweeting COVID 19 misinformation.

But was it misinformation?

Yes.

And so, in the absence of any evidence as to why Hank Aaron died, any proposed cause could be labelled "misinformation."

No. Kennedy said: "I simply made the factual observation that “Aaron’s tragic death is part of a wave of suspicious deaths among elderly closely following administration of COVID vaccines.”"

That is misinformation because it leads people to believe that there is some reason for suspecting the deaths of elderly who got the Covid vaccine were due to the vaccine. No study has made this link, hence misinformation.

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2020hindsights Today 09:59 am JST

No he isn't. Twitter is a private company and Humphrey has no authority to force Twitter to do anything. Twitter obviously agreed with Humphrey that the Tweets broke Twitter's TOS.

Well I explained how the language of Humphrey's e-mail does more than inform, but we will just have to disagree on this point. And Humphrey, as a representative of the White House, certainly has the means to pressure to a company. But here too I guess we will have to disagree.

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The far-left is upset that they have lost their ability to silence anyone they disagree with and remove free speech. Very fascist of them!

Love the vagueness of the usual rightist conspiratorial contingent when talking about how their precious free speech content is being removed by those awful leftists who somehow control everything despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Name some "leftists" who have censored a crucial topic that the right is trying to illuminate.

It should be very illuminating and it probably will be no mystery.

The default on the cognitively deficient right is to blathering about leftists and free speech, refreshingly devoid of examples.

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JimizoToday  10:44 am JST

Nobody is going to be right about everything all the time. He got this one wrong and is paying a very heavy price for it. 

Happy?

How weak. 

I thought what he did was disgusting. Parents devastated after losing their kids in a massacre and then being called liars by Jones and his moronic followers? 

Oh, he just made a mistake? 

Pathetic.

It was a bad mistake, but is that worth trying to completely destroy him? You lot seems to be acting as if he were the one committing the murders in the first place. Have some perspective. Meanwhile we have warmongers responsible for the deaths of millions around the world getting away scot-free, if not outright celebrated by the corporate and government media and millions of unthinking members of the public from across the spectrum.

Again, I'm not excusing what Jones did in regard to Sandy Hook, but get some perspective about who are the real criminals in our society - many of them using our taxes to do it.

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Lincolman, do you get a dollar every time you mention MAGA is a post or something? If not, you have a dangerously unhealthy obsession with the term.

He is usually correct when mentioning a MAGA fanatic beholden to Trump , despite all logic.

And does not compare to the posters here who carpet bomb the term "left" to any contrary opinion.

Trump, Jones and all their fellow travelers share these characteristics.

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dagonToday  10:59 am JST

Lincolman, do you get a dollar every time you mention MAGA is a post or something? If not, you have a dangerously unhealthy obsession with the term.

He is usually correct when mentioning a MAGA fanatic beholden to Trump , despite all logic.

And does not compare to the posters here who carpet bomb the term "left" to any contrary opinion. 

Trump, Jones and all their fellow travelers share these characteristics.

Keep it coming, Dagon. This is champagne comedy.

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It was a bad mistake

Pathetic.

It was absolutely disgusting. Filth. You do not do that if you have any shred of morality.

You still refer to him as ‘Alex’ after that?

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do you get a dollar every time you mention MAGA is a post or something?

MAGA-world - where they rant about getting "censored"...and praise Musk for standing up for free speech....

Then complain when someone uses their slogan...

If not, you have a dangerously unhealthy obsession

Great description of...wait for it....MAGA-world...

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The Left going crazy over their echo chamber of choice being threatened by freedom of speech. Amusing times.

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Great description of...wait for it....MAGA-world...

Ka-ching, or pop another pill?

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The lefties love to throw around words like”vermin” and “filth”.

What words do you think would be appropriate to describe a person who makes their lucre off Sandy Hook conspiracy?

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All readers, please tone down your rhetoric.

The Left going crazy over their echo chamber of choice being threatened by freedom of speech. Amusing times.

But in the old days we’re happy when conservatives were silenced, and blocked. Oh, the sheer hypocrisy

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Alex Jones must really upset my buddy Jimizo. Constantly ranting about right wing podcasters lol

Just reading the walls close in on their arguments is so easy.

Spineless stuff. So typical.

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Instead of trying to censor someone using your favorite term, why don't you help us understand why you are defending Musk when he makes cars in Communist China that he then sells here, giving money to Xi and taking away American jobs, just like Trump has claimed?

Or another question: If Elon Musk believes in free speech, why is he censoring tweets at the behest of governments such as Turkey and India? I suspect Musk unbanning Alex Jones has less to do with his non-existant free-speech platform, than it does to do with throwing red meat to his core audience.

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so why do you care so?

It's not about whether one does or doesn't use Twitter.

It's about platforming a person who has previously violated Twitter's, using the platform to spread malicious lies and conspiracy theories about the victims of Sandy Hook. Just what is the value of platforming Jones?

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It's about platforming a person who has previously violated Twitter's, using the platform to spread malicious lies and conspiracy theories about the victims of Sandy Hook. Just what is the value of platforming Jones?

why do you care if you aren’t a user of the platform?

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Just what is the value of platforming Jones?

free speech.

if you say something wrong on one topic at one point of your life, you are silenced forever on all other topics?

nah we don’t do that.

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any of you even use X?

Does Trump?

Aaron's death was related to the vaccine is unsubstantiated

MTG says there are nano chips in the vaccine

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BlacklabelToday  11:39 am JST

Boy the left sure is riled up today.

any of you even use X? 

so why do you care so?

They won't admit it of course, but their inner authoritarian simply can't handle anyone disagreeing with them. Nobody is forcing people to use Twitter/X - I don't. I don't even care if far-left crazies post on it - it just shows the world how deluded they are and provides some good laughs at their own expense.

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why do you care if you aren’t a user of the platform?

Because I think it's pretty awful that Musk has again platformed Alex Jones, who has previously used the platform to spread baseless lies about the victims of Sandy Hook. These families were harassed and threatened in real life, by the way, so impact of platforming Jones is by no means limited to only those dwindling users of Twitter.

free speech.

I'm sorry, but free speech means the government. Not private companies. Private companies are free to make their on rules. Again, of what benefit is it to allow Jones to spread lies? Do you think platforming conspiracy theorists like Jones will make advertising more or less likely to continue advertising on Twitter?

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What all the posts today really boil down to is this...

Our "conservatives" are defending two guys;

One of whom was found liable for lying about a massacre of children - to the tune of over $1 billion...

The other makes cars in partnership with the CCP that he then sells in North America...

If that's who you are defending, then that says a lot about you...

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Elon never wanted to buy X and the courts forced him to

Trump does not use X

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The other makes cars in partnership with the CCP that he then sells in North America...

Then they must hate Tim Cook, too. Of course, they don't.

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Because I think it's pretty awful that Musk has again platformed Alex Jones, 

why? You don’t use the platform and won’t ever see anything posted.

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You don’t use the platform

I don't. But more importantly Trump doesn't. If Trump doesn't use it, then it must mean that X is no good.

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Our "conservatives" are defending two guys;

defending their right to free speech, yep.

That’s it, with no commentary on anything else they have ever said or done. Just that they have the right to speak.

don’t they?

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