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Erdogan announces Syria summit with Russia, France and Germany for March 5

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Syria's last rebel enclave of Idlib.

Syria's last Al-Qaeda enclave of Idlib.

There, fixed it. AFP can be so sloppy.

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@Joeintokyo So you say with zero evidence. Now where were we? Oh yes. Sloppy.

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Joeintokyo So you say with zero evidence. Now where were we? Oh yes. Sloppy.

I can easily source as least a dozen news articles from western mainstream news agencies and companies that admit...

"Al-Qaida is the dominate force in Idlib"

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discuss the escalating violence in Syria's last rebel enclave of Idlib.

Got to love how they frame it. As if it is possible to kick out the islamist headcutters without "violence".

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I can easily source as least a dozen news articles

Yet you sourced not even one. Curious....

The article above says: "dlib is held by an array of rebel groups dominated by the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) jihadist group, which is led by members of the country's former al-Qaida franchise."

So...dominated sounds like 40 to 80 percent. However, "an array of rebel groups" seems to put that at the lower end of maybe 40 to 70 percent majority. But it also says "former al-Qaida franchise" and that is a curious statement. Would that be former official al-Qaida or just al-Qaida affiliated? And what exactly defines al-Qaida anyway? Would that be because they identify as al-Qaida, subscribe to 51 percent or more of al-Qaida doctrines, or would it be because they are in the M.E. and "we" don't like them.

Suffice to say its far more complicated than the sloppy " Syria's last Al-Qaeda enclave of Idlib."

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@John McCartney

Enjoy this reading:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-defeat-al-quaeda-syria-grow-global-attention-islamist-terrorists-jihadis-un-us-west-iraq-raqqa-a7932881.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jihadists-take-control-of-syrias-rebel-held-idlib/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47252257

Your games with names and numbers can not hide a simple fact: Idlib is the last stronghold of diehard jihadist scum. It does not matter how they call themselves, how they cut their victims' throats - from left to right or from right to left, do they yell "allahu akbar" three or four times during this etc. The world will be very much better without them, and Assad actually does the world a favor to eradicate them.

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It does not matter how they call themselves, how they cut their victims' throats -

Yes, yes. I am sure it makes a big difference to you whether innocent people die by missiles or knife, bullets or bomb, from up close and personal or from 300 miles away, or whether in their own country or the next. 90 percent of the time I see people killing each other and others, they are all scum. But none of that takes away from who has a right to be where and who doesn't. The Turkish government and Erdogan don't even belong in eastern Turkey!

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@John McCartney

I am just breaking down what the article says! I quoted it!

No, you tried to play down the Al Qaeda dominant presence at Idlib.

So you seek to move the goal post of the other two posters while they go silent. Right. You guys all in the same room?

What a childish retort! One room won't accomodate all people who want to rid the world from jihadists.

I am sure it makes a big difference to you whether innocent people die by missiles or knife

So, what's your solution to the Idlib problem? Stop the Syrian Army offensive, leave the jihadist abscess as it is? Seriously, do you really think that if left alone these nasty characters would renounce violence and become good citizens and the problem will dissolve itself? Obviously you know nothing about jihadists.

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But none of that takes away from who has a right to be where and who doesn't. The Turkish government and Erdogan don't even belong in eastern Turkey!

Agreed. The rightful authority in that area is and should be the UN recognized Syrian government.

Turkish troops should go home so the Syrian army can re-establish civilization and the rule of law.

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Obviously you know nothing about jihadists.

What's obvious is that you have strong predetermined notions about the rebels and also me.

So, what's your solution to the Idlib problem?

That's just it. I don't see a problem.

Seriously, do you really think that if left alone these nasty characters would renounce violence and become good citizens and the problem will dissolve itself?

Who the hell ever renounced violence really?? And their idea of a good citizen is very different from yours..and I am sure yours is different from mine. That does not mean people should go poke at them and try to force change by gun point. Different people have to be tolerated to a degree, somewhere a bit below when they invade their neighbors. So those people want their caliphate? So what? Shooting at them has not calmed them down any more than it did the Taliban. Kicking hornet's nests comes with some predictable results. I never saw it as necessary. All I saw was a pack of people who want their own patch of ground coveting all the ground they can see. I see this in so many places and times, in the U.S. Civil War, in the trouble in Ukraine, in Afghanistan, in Korea. Some people just cannot leave other people alone and its for none of the think excuses you offer. Its just greed for land and lust for power. Its like beating a wife for wanting a divorce rather than give her portion of the stuff and wish her a nice life. The latter should be the norm.

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Erdogan announces Syria summit with Russia, France and Germany for March 5

Lol, once again, Syria is not on the table

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That Kid looks like he is so Happy!, Life is bliss when you're young and innocent .... especially if you are on the right side... compare, however, to the pictures of Kids his age, in Hospital with limbs crushed or blown off, who were simply, due to no fault of their own, on the wrong side, or wrong place at the wrong time ....

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@John McCartney

What's obvious is that you have strong predetermined notions about the rebels

Videos of people who had their throats cut or people killed in other gruesome ways really help to determine notions about the terrorebels.

That's just it. I don't see a problem

Too bad for you, because jihadists see everyone who does not share their views as a problem. Pacifism does not work when dealing with such characters.

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Videos of people who had their throats cut

I never watched them thought I don't doubt their existence. I have however ever seen innocent people getting blown up in U.S. drone and helicopter strike videos where no attempt was made to determine innocence. All the above is terrorism to me, all the victims are equally dead.

Too bad for you, because jihadists see everyone who does not share their views as a problem.

Utter delusional nonsense. They are not of one single mind and plenty just want a border between them and everyone else then no problem. If anyone sees others who don't think the same as an automatic problem, its people like you.

Pacifism does not work when dealing with such characters.

That is just delusional pro-war, pro-violence rigamarole. And nobody said anything that was truly pacifist anyway. No one is automatically pacifist for all the truces that have been signed, such as with the Taliban. Although if we did an actual count the U.S. is very, very likely the world record holder for breaking peace agreements.

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