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EU aims to grant Ukraine aid even if Hungary vetoes it at coming summit

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By Gabriela Baczynska and Andrew Gray

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Rules are meant for breaking. Noted.

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"the bloc could allocate a smaller amount to cover a shorter period or the other 26 EU countries could extend their national contributions bilaterally to Kyiv."

This is the way it should be done. Each member country should "extend their national contribution" for Ukraine and the politicians responsible for making that choice should answer to their respective electorates. Whether the voters of each particular nation wish to increase or decrease the contribution to the war should be up to them.

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Yep let’s have a vote then just do whatever we want anyway.

muh democracy!

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JJEToday 07:21 am JST

Rules are meant for breaking. Noted.

No, the EU has always granted a large amount of independence: hence how Hungary has continued down this criminal path by itself.

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BlacklabelToday 09:06 am JST

Yep let’s have a vote then just do whatever we want anyway.

muh democracy!

You only get to surrender the United States. That is your democracy for you.

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So Hungary is not part of the Eurozone. Maybe they need to investigate that Vienna Convention option.

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Orban, who boasts about his ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin at a time the rest of the bloc is trying to isolate Moscow for waging the war,

Tyrants support other tyrants.

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Good news. Thank you, EU!

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We aren’t “surrendering” to anyone.

let EU pay for Ukraine if they want, the USA is done.

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BlacklabelToday 11:02 am JST

We aren’t “surrendering” to anyone.

let EU pay for Ukraine if they want, the USA is done.

Uh huh. What do you think the assessment in Moscow and Peking will be?

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What’s wrong with simply letting EU pay for this if they want?

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Yep let’s have a vote then just do whatever we want anyway.

Lol that's not what they're talking about. They're talking about finding a way for the EU to help support Ukraine, and that's in peril because on authoritarian regime objects. Why should the vast majority of the EU have to yield for one country. I know the right hates democracy, but that is how they function.

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because on authoritarian regime objects. Why should the vast majority of the EU have to yield for one country.

Because each member country gets a vote.

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United States is Lone “No” Vote on “Immediate Humanitarian Ceasefire” Resolution at the United Nations Security Council

So just go ahead and do it anyway? Only one authoritarian regime objects.

not how votes work, right?

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 By the way, it's worth pointing out that the only EU country opposing the aid is the most corrupt country in the EU. :)

And Ukraine is more corrupt than that, per the article

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BlacklabelToday 04:19 pm JST

 By the way, it's worth pointing out that the only EU country opposing the aid is the most corrupt country in the EU. :)

And Ukraine is more corrupt than that, per the article

And Russia is more corrupt than that, per common sense.

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The EU is scared other Victors will be elected across Europe.

He was arrested by the communist secret police as a student. People who label him a Putin stooge are stooges of their own imagination.

Truth is he sticks up for Hungary and Hungarians. That is his job.

Transcarpathian Hungarians in Ukraine deserve minority rights - Kyiv should be hauled over the coals for banning languages.

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The EU welcome mat is a double standard - some countries are being coerced to recognize minority rights while another is the biggest offender but no comment; yet another case of selective eyes-wide-shut and hypocritical conduct.

Unsurprising.

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JJEToday 04:51 pm JST

He was arrested by the communist secret police as a student. People who label him a Putin stooge are stooges of their own imagination.

The Soviet Union had principles of a kind. Now it is just naked fascism.

The EU welcome mat is a double standard - some countries are being coerced to recognize minority rights while another is the biggest offender but no comment; yet another case of selective eyes-wide-shut and hypocritical conduct.

Still better than not recognizing a country's right to exist like Russia doesn't recognize Ukraine.

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Because each member country gets a vote.

But given the size of the EU, it will be paralyzed if it required consensus on every decision. As a result, countries give up a degree of sovereignty in order to receive the wider benefits of membership - that's how democracy works.

If Hungary doesn't want to pay contributions to Ukraine, I'm sure there is a workaround. But just because Hungary is trying to follow Russia down the path to fascism, doesn't mean it can drag the rest of Europe down the drain with it.

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And Russia is more corrupt than that, per common sense.

Not how corruption is measured. You know this.

plus the comparison is Hungary vs. Ukraine.

Russia is irrelevant as they not trying to join EU.

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