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© 2022 AFPEU ministers to study call for ban on Russian tourists
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Eastman
"great".so any Russian is "guilty by default".cant travel just "because is Russian".
sure EU can ban russian tourists from entry but two three things are sure already now:
-Russian tourists swill spend money somewhere else.Dubai.Thailand you name it...
--you will not "win" over Russia by this and even your lovely UA will be not one step closer to "victory"
-you are showing your true colours and your "western values" to whole world and let me say this will not make more friends for you around the world
at the end-its just another stupidity from heads of EU "leaders"...
Peter14
The pariah state of Russia continues to face further restrictions in the international community as it attempts to invade and subjugate Ukraine into oblivion.
Russia soon will be viewed and treated like the worst of nations on the planet so that Putin can live in the history books alongside Stalin, Hitler and Peter the Great. To the world he will be remembered as Vladimir the Incompetent.
Bob Fosse
I don’t agree with this. Travel is for everyone. Russians are not putin and it’s not fair to punish the oppressed.
I think more Russians should travel. See how life could be.
sethwright
Unbelievably stupid idea for several reasons:
It's a performative show of disapproval that accomplishes nothing.
It stops money from exiting Russia and flowing into EU businesses and wages.
It stops the "brain drain" from Russia, which is the most powerful weapon the EU has against Putin.
It hurts normal, powerless people; not aristocrats.Raw Beer
International community? No, just the EU and US, and few other minor countries. Most of humanity is on Russia's side.
stormcrow
What a great idea! My house, my rules!
It reinforces the fact that Russia is regarded as a pariah and that you or your money is not welcome anywhere.
This may force many Russians to ask themselves, "Why?"
DO IT!
UChosePoorly
Man, it seems like the countries closest to Russia know Russia the best.
Mr Kipling
Can I remind you that Islamic terrorists used exactly the same "they are all guilty" excuse for killing ordinary civilians in Europe.
This is yest another stupid poorly thought out move by the EU. As previously stated, Russian tourists will go elsewhere. Who loses out? The EU tourist business and tax authorities. Does anyone really think that if "Ivan" can't have a weekend drinking beer in Munich, he is going to march on the Kremlin?
Sven Asai
Would you still deliver dangerous things like oil, gas, energy etc into such a crazy mind sick kindergarten? lol
lincolnman
Don't support this....the Russian people are as much victims of Putin's brutality and barbarity as the Ukrainians...
Remember, in Russia if you say the word "war" you can get locked up for 5 years, or dropped out of an 8 story building...
Welcome Russian tourists - just as before in the Soviet era, let them see what they're missing back home...and inspire them to fight for change...
Peter14
United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES‑11/1 is a resolution of the eleventh emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly, adopted on 2 March 2022. It deplored Russia's invasion of Ukraine and demanded a full withdrawal of Russian forces and a reversal of its decision to recognise the self-declaredPeople's Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk. The resolution was sponsored by 96 countries, and passed with 141 voting in favour, 5 against, and 35 abstentions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_ES-11/1
One hundred and forty one nations are minor? Five nations, (which includes Russia and Belarus) are most of the world? Your idea is laughable in the size of it's incorrectness.
Most of the world voted against Russia and it's invasion. Perhaps it was reported differently where you are?
Illyas
The travel ban on several Arab countries initiated by Trump was also defended by citing surveys showing significant pluralities in Arab countries support suicide bombings and other political violence committed by Islamic extremists. I'm all for banning Russians if we apply this standard equally.
Monty
In one side I agree.
You can not let Russians killing innocent people including, women and children, and then let them go on vacation to celebrate.
Especially when we always hear from Russia, that almost all Russians support their government. (if it is just Russian propaganda or not)
But on the other hand, I assume that not all Russians support their government, and they are against the war in the Ukraine. So these people are innocent, but they will also be hit by the Visa restrictions.
That of course is not nice.
But there is one more point:
All the supporters and defenders of these Russian mass murdering mob, who are living abroad in a safe and comfortable country with a “Stay-Visa” or whatever Visa they have, which allows them to stay in that safe country, ...all these people’s Visa should be canceled and suspended immediately, and all these supporters and defenders of this killing, mass murdering and raping Mob, should be send back immediately to Russia.
Then, they can support and cheer up to their murdering government directly on site in Russia.
Wakarimasen
I guess Turkey will be even more overrun with Russian tourists then.
Seth M
stormcrow
What a great idea! My house, my rules
A mustache man 80 years ago also said this, oh he's also from Europe.
theResident
It will actually be quite nice if Russian tourists are banned. They are only marginally better than Chinese tourists on group tours. They lack manners, care not for other guests in hotels/resorts and restaurants and have a habit of not even dressing properly.
I for one. will NOT miss them - and will actively visit countries that have banned them.
@Raw Beer - Out of all the ridiculous statements you make, that is RIGHT up there.
theResident
..and yes Citizens of Russia, take it up with your Government directly, because unless one of you can manage to knock Putin off, your country will NEVER be welcome back into the international community.
Monty
They lack manners, care not for other guests in hotels/resorts and restaurants and have a habit of not even dressing properly.
I 1000% agree!
I for one. will NOT miss them
You and millions of other peoples too.
Mirchy
I'm from the EU. We have become a victim of the duel between the USA and Russia, and while we're at it, let's sink the EU economy and standards a little more. The USA is once again solving its financial crisis at foreign expense, but this time in a more sophisticated way. I have no words for the puppet European leaders. Hello cold winter.
PTownsend
think it's stupid to restrict Russian citizens from visiting European nations, like another poster said they could still go to other places where different Russian gangs run a range of services. But how easy is it for ordinary Russians to get passports allowing them to travel outside Russia. I have read Russians need passports for domestic travel within Russia. Let Russians who want to travel abroad have some freedom from Putin's control.
Most authoritarian regimes are on Russia's side. And some of them have huge populations.
Raw Beer
Yeah, only 5 countries supported that particular resolution. But did you notice that countries like China, India, and Pakistan abstained; these countries are trading with Russia. The 141 countries that supported that resolution include San Marino, Andorra, Monaco, Micronesia... so you can't just count countries
ian
Other than Turkey Hungary, Russians still actually travel to other EU countries as tourists?
Cheeky
Mr Kipling
The majority of the world is against Russia? China? No. India..? No. Almost all of Africa..? NO. Middle eastern countries..? No...
By the world you mean the US and her allies. 35 countries have any sanctions al all on Russia. Many of these are starting to question that decision considering the cost of gas.
EvilBuddha
Turkey will be even more overrun with Russian tourists
Not just Turkey.
Anyone who has been to Sharm-el-Sheikh would have seen how many Russian tourists go there.
Russian tourist charter flights to Goa have also been a regular feature for many years. It helps that many beaches in Goa are off-limits to Indians but eagerly welcome the British and Russians who go there to enjoy the sun and sand and escape from harsh winters.
Whoever came up with this idea of banning Russian tourists from EU has not really thought things through.
ian
Zelensky's demanding it.
Not for actual visits probably, but so Russians can't pass through
Yrral
The EU powerful and US have niche the idea,the US already ban people deemed undisirable to American values
Bob Fosse
Let Russians travel. They might pick up a foreign newspaper en route.
theResident
Excellent @Raw Beer: China and Pakistan great examples of democracy. Throw a little corruption in, many security concerns with Pakistan...want me too keep going? Where are you actually from????
India night turn out to the peacemaker one day in all this.
Yrral
This war will not end well for Ukrainain,until they accept responsibility for their fate
Bob Fosse
Not hold them underwater and then say Ukrainians did it.
There are countless Russian and Ukrainian mothers are worrying about their children right now.
Hypothetical questions are wasting time.
Yrral
A dismal fate without accepting responsibility,same fate as anybody in a country ,led by delusional leadership
Bob Fosse
The right wing are always talking about the past or future or ‘what if?’ scenarios instead of looking at what is happening today.
It’s reckless idiocy.
Nemo
About 1/2 "screw the Russians. They made their bed, let them lie in it. No vacations for them"
About 1/2 "Let's take their money and give them exposure to things that are not out and out lies".
So not a cut and dry issue.
ClippetyClop
Russians who are wealthy enough to travel in Europe will already be fully aware of Putin's murdering, corruption and lies. But they'll be wealthy enough to forgive his murderous invasions.
TokyoLiving
Loser's attitude...
Raw Beer
Seems some people have a very embellished view of the US and the EU...
Nemo
A fair point and well-stated.
How would the West facilitate the dissemination of accurate information and allow for the Youth of Russia to quit the country while denying the Putin-centric appeasers their Euro-vacations?
I am truly on the fence on this one.
Olegek
Thank you, but most Russian "are Putin"
They support this operation in Ukraine
And they not so much cared about travels in Europe
The conflict is much more serious as you think.
Russian today asking government not about travels in EU but about mobilisation
Nemo
.... a power who cares NOT on fig.
Oh, my kingdom for an edit function..... (Of course my "Kingdom" is a 20 year old condo with 15 more years of payments, but still.....)
Bob Fosse
How would you know? Those who didn’t support it disappeared.
That’s too bad.
No. I know it is serious. I just don’t think everyday Russians know how badly they are being misled.
Then you have nothing to complain about this news story. All men aged 10 to 70 report for duty, cancel your holiday plans.
wallace
Yrral
people from Africa and others countries who were students in Ukraine until the war started had no problems leaving the country. They had a problem trying to enter Poland because they didn't have the right papers.