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© Thomson Reuters 2025.Europe will not be part of Ukraine peace talks, U.S. envoy says
By Andrew Gray, Lili Bayer and John Irish MUNICH©2025 GPlusMedia Inc.
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TaiwanIsNotChina
Trump is not going to be able to come up with any sort of agreement since he is a terrible negotiator. It is just as well.
Tamarama
The US is throwing Ukraine under the bus here, make no mistake. Pushed them off the kerb. Zelensky’s face tells the story. I feel for them. Lured into an idea that NATO membership was a feasible and realistic goal, despite Russia’s obvious opposition to having US warheads in it’s backyard, only to have the rug pulled out from under them when the rubber meets the road.
A stronger, more independent Europe is a good thing though. The US is increasingly become an extreme state, Socially, politically, militarily, economically. Donald Trump’s election first time around seemed inconceivable, laughable at the time, but the US are double dipping on the Trump sauce and it spells danger, instability and unpredictability.
Europe should want to pull away from that, and if it means they are a stronger, more independent bloc, I think that’s good for the rest of us.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Zelenskyy is right to point out that Trump has opted to leave what remained of his dignity behind in these negotiations and Zelenskyy is in a position to know. Europe must chart its own path.
TaiwanIsNotChina
There were never US warheads of any kind in Ukraine prior to Putin's war of aggression.
Underworld
This is looking more like a vanity project for Trump. He's keen to get a Nobel Peace Prize, because Obama got one.
With Trump's terrible negotiating skills, and without the help of Europe, I can't see peace any time soon.
Underworld
Tamarama
The Russian war in Ukraine has nothing to do with NATO. It never has. Even if Ukraine joined NATO, there would be no US warheads installed in Ukraine.
Tamarama
TaiwanisnotChyna
I didn't say there was, only that Russia wouldn't want them there , which would be a distinct possibility if Ukraine were a NATO member.
There are, and have been US military facilities and personnel in Ukraine for quite a while though, something Russia would not have been popping corks over, I venture to guess. That would be the equivalent of Russia or Chyna training Mexican troops in Mexico, wouldn't it?
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/06/08/amid-russia-tensions-us-army-continues-to-build-up-ukrainian-forces-training-center/
You get my drift, right?
John-San
The now defunked USA throw Ukraine under the bus back in 2012 when the. USA started back door dealing to un-stabilised Ukraines Russian leaning politics. This is all the USA fault. Just like the losing the Korean War like losing the Vietnam war, like losing the Afghanistan war like losing the Iraqi war like losing this war this proxy with Russia and losing the proxy Hamas war. When it came to warfare the USA a totally useless. If anyone should not be part of this negotiation History will tell you do not under any circumstance allow the USA anywhere near these talks.
stormcrow
Sickening to see the Republicans coddling and pampering Putin the way they have been.
They like to act as if they're so brave, but actually that's the furthest thing from the truth. By coddling and rewarding dictators, they embolden them.
Tamarama
Underworld
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/13/world/video/trump-nato-ukraine-russia-war-ac360-paton-walsh-digvid
I'veSeenFootage
How could you even envision peace talks without the rest of the continent the invaded country is part of? What a criminally stupid idea. Just Trump trying to isloate Ukraine because he's doing Putin's bidding.
Tokyo Guy
He means "we don't want Europe watching us when we hand Ukraine over to Putin".
I suppose that could be seen as almost an admission of shame, but that's probably me reading too much into it.
Tokyo Guy
Europe should want to pull away from that, and if it means they are a stronger, more independent bloc, I think that’s good for the rest of us.
Very much so. As an American, I wouldn't trust us one bit while Trump's in charge. This idiotic idea of freezing Europe out of the negotiations, along with Vance's clownish attempts at schoolyard bullying, will only serve to rally Europe together.
I mean the US has for all intents and purposes now announced that it is an ally of Russia. The only thing missing is an official announcement.
sakurasuki
Good decision, we need someone who really put money to do the talk,
EU only like to talk without significant money and actions.
iknowall
More brilliant strength exhibited by Trump.
Europe has not done anything constructive so they are excluded.
Seth Majer
A peace deal means sticking another fork in the Democrat Party. It is no wonder all comments above mine wish it doesn't happen.
TaiwanIsNotChina
They should reply back: you are the superpower, why do you always have to be so weak?
TaiwanIsNotChina
No I don't get your drift: russia invaded Ukraine before the Euromaidan was even finished. Of course somewhere there were probably CIA operatives before 2022 but that doesn't give russia the excuse to launch a fascist war of aggression. NATO was very responsible about keeping multinational forces away from russia before Putin decided to try to wipe Ukraine off of the map.
That would be a training center.
Be a garbage neighbor like russia and you should expect that kind of thing.
Amber
Having American military bases in Europe is actually now a security risk, they need to go home.
I'veSeenFootage
Europeans really don't give a rat's ass about the simplistic democrats vs. republicans dichotomy the "greatest country in the world" has been stuck in for decades. Thinking they do, or thinking Ukraine is just a way of "scoring points" for either American party, just demonstrates an astounding ignorance and woeful self-centeredness.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Believing Trump now? He doesn't even know about the Bucharest Declaration.
Underworld
Tamarama
The Russian war in Ukraine has nothing to do with NATO. It never has. Even if Ukraine joined NATO, there would be no US warheads installed in Ukraine.
Trump is wrong. He's fallen for a Kremlin talking point.
Putin didn't invade Ukraine in 2022 because he feared NATO. He invaded because he believed that NATO was weak, that his efforts to regain control of Ukraine by other means had failed, and that installing a pro-Russian government in Kyiv would be safe and easy. His aim was not to defend Russia against some non-existent threat but rather to expand Russia's power, eradicate Ukraine's statehood, and destroy NATO, goals he still pursues.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Do pray tell how Ukraine will roll over at Trump's bidding.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Let's run down the litany of falsehoods:
Euromaidan was in 2014 and was not led with a phone call.
Korean war was a minor victory.
Iraq war we don't fully know the outcome yet.
Hamas don't seem to be doing too good right now. Also who is the US fighting against there? Iran?
All victories except Vietnam and Afghanistan. russia on the other hand, is down hundreds of thousands of people in a conventional war against #30 on the military expenditure list. No wonder India has second thoughts about russian weapons.
geronimo2006
Putin is going to be appeased which is why the Americans don't want the Europeans at the table. Ukraine should refuse to allow this, but alone aren't in a position to do so. The Americans under Trump don't have a plan and have been sending contradictory messages. The reason Putin did not negotiate earlier is because he knows he will get the best deal idf he can negotiate with Trump alone. Win for Putin. The Europeans and Ukraine should stand up to the US and not allow this to happen.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Trump is literally asking for volunteers right now. He might get them but they will do their own thing as Trump is useless as a world leader.
Tamarama
TaiwanisnotChyna, Underworld
I have no time for Trump whatsoever.
But he does talk to Vladimir Putin on the telephone.
Something I'm pretty sure neither of you do.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Believing Putin now?
Underworld
Tamarama
There were never US warheads of any kind in Ukraine prior to Putin's war of aggression.
Not nuclear warheads. NATO hasn't installed them in NATO countries since Turkey in 1952.
Ever since Russia annexed Crimea, which didn't have Ukrainians popping corks. This is understandable since Russia was backing the civil war in Donbas that it started. Also, when president Yanukovych fled to Russia in 2014, he took his heads of intelligence with them, so the CIA came in to help them out.
wallace
Trump does not know what he is doing with Ukraine and has no end-game plan. Both the EU and the UK need seats at the peace table. Europe donated $175 billion to Ukraine.
MarkX
So Trump and the US want the Europeans to secure Ukraine's borders etc. with troops, but they will not allow them to take part in the peace talks! That would be a hard no from me. If they are going to be enforcing any peace agreement, they must also be part of crafting it!
Underworld
Tamarama
I wouldn't bother. The NATO expansion / existential threat is a longstanding Kremlin lie. And all Putin needs to do is flatter Trump's ego and he believes it.
KnightsOfCydonia
The US position is clear as mud.
They claim there is a new sheriff in town but then state the US might not be there when needed.
They want Europe to play a bigger role? But want to leave Europe out of negotiations with Russia?
A very inspiring speech by Zelenskyy.
I’m hoping Europe steps up.
Tokyo Guy
The US position is clear as mud.
In one sense. In another, it's clear as the light of day: we answer to Putin and we do what he says.
bass4funk
Absolute nonsense, he’s actually a great negotiator, but he has to do it the way it works out well for everyone, not just Ukraine, 4 weeks in, give it time. We waited already a few years, a bit more won’t make a significant difference.
bass4funk
That would make Putin happy, I as well, but that’s just pure fantasy, it will never happen, Europe would be finished.
Yrral
American do not respond,too anything but another American,only when an American find their way at the shortened of the stick
quercetum
The US is unreliable and Ukraine is thrown under the bus in just three years. The system of government is unpredictable with administration change.
This is the country that asked Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenal in exchange for security and protection.
North Korea is smart and should continue to develop warheads as a deterrent.
lincolnman
Trump giving us another lesson in retreating, caving, and cowardly surrendering...
Hegseth, about as an incompetent SECDEF as you can get, said Russia gets to keep territory it has gained from its clear INVASION of another country...
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-defense-chief-hegseth-says-return-ukraines-pre-2014-borders-not-realistic-2025-02-12/
So how about that MAGA-fans - Mexico can invade Texas and Hegseth is fine with them keeping it (I would be too)....or maybe Russia claws back Alaska, "no big deal"....
How about China finally invading Taiwan and also grabs the Senkakus? No going back to "original borders"?
Trump is nothing but Putin's Pocket Puppet...
patkim
Trump and his unqualified lackey Hegseth have already proven to be terrible negotiators. The first rule of negotiating is to never give away concessions before you even start negotiations. They've done that. When it comes to Russia, they will always come at you with "So what else will you give us?"
Anything less than a full withdrawal of Russian forces, conceding the lands they illegally took, and assurances that they will not invade again, will be a negotiating failure. Remember folks, it was Russia that illegally and violently invaded Ukraine. The fabricated pretense that Russia wanted to NeoNazism and Fascism is a totally lie. Even then, that wouldn't have been justification for their actions.
Jimmy Ray
C'mon dude, he's a one-trick pony. It's obvious to everybody how this guy operates, there's nothing special going on and in fact it's comical at this point. Also, he said he could do this in 24hrs, so yeah he's only a month late on delivery.
Jimmy Ray
Yeah, I wouldn't be so sure, god forbid it happens, but there are other countries on the continent with nukes.
kokajp
Europe would be finished.
Team America World Police to the rescue of European nuclear powers. Right.
deanzaZZR
This is looking like a very bad investment.
TaiwanIsNotChina
He doesn't have a plan for Ukraine to exist as an independent country.
TaiwanIsNotChina
And the other signatory, your ally, is an invading pos, go figure.
itsonlyrocknroll
European leaders have been accused of blowing JD Vance vocal verbal volleying, criticism , scolding opinion, admittedly on a global security conference platform, out of all proportion, I sense a whining petulant snivelling whinge/groaning bunch of chancers akin to a childlike playground squabbling over bags of marbles.
EU/UK have been ruthlessly frozen out, at present, with no means of rectifying the situation.
There is a much more concerning conclusion.
Not only have the EU member States leadership, in many instances the previous Tory government (UK) too, political commentators suggest criminal neglect, naïve political posturing pretending to be milltary support for Ukraine.
To shamefully refuse to supply the believed game changing long range missile technology allowing Ukraine to respond to targets deep inside Russia.
To in effect supply a pistol however shorten the killing range.
General Keith Kellogg told a global security conference in Munich: "The answer to that last question (regarding Europeans), just as you framed it, the answer is no."
Both President Trump, Vladimir Putin could have set a decision making process in motion, a agreement to end this war, hence that rather overused fable "wars are won before they are fought"
Putin believes so, Europe politically weak, disunity, indecisive hissy fit is evidence enough for Putin to celebrate. I wince at the manner Germany in particular still finances Putin's war, the shameless hypocrisy
Japan must take firm note, at very least privately,
Europe betrayal of Ukraine, its refusal to stand by the people of Ukraine to confront bully despot Putin could have serious global consequences.
The government of China could be emboldened by the West seeming capitulation to tyranny.
And blockade Taiwan, both the south east China seas, choking off global regional vital shipping routes.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life
Winston Churchill nailed it....
change
Whoever thought the US will be on the side of Russia and NK against Europe. Elections have consequences.
The last time it was about her emails.
This time it was about her...whatever.
bass4funk
Well, he’s working on it, relax.
wallace
itsonlyrocknroll
What does that have to do with Ukraine peace talks?
Protestors should not be allowed directly outside of abortion clinics intimidating women entering. The same happened in the US with religious groups. They need to be kept a certain distance from the clinics.
The veteran breached the safe distance zone.
"Heidi Stewart, the chief executive of Bpas, the UK’s leading provider of abortion services, said safe zones – buffer areas of 150 metres around abortion clinics designed to stop women being harassed with leaflets, shown pictures of foetuses, or having to pass by vigils – were vital to protect women’s access to essential healthcare in an “overwhelmingly pro-choice country”.
"JD Vance has been labelled an “extremist” after he launched a broadside against the UK’s efforts to protect women seeking an abortion."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/15/jd-vance-decried-as-extremist-over-attack-on-uk-abortion-clinic-safe-zones
proxy
Kellogg is a bigger troll than Trump.
wallace
Russian President Vladimir Putin could end the war today.
Blacklabel
"The Americans are approaching European capitals and asking how many soldiers they are ready to deploy," one diplomat said.”
now that it’s getting real, Europe isn’t so sure they care that much.
Ah_so
I think this is a good time to kick US bases out of Europe. If they aren't going to be of any help, time they stopped being there.
Trump probably doesn't understand why the US has bases in Europe, but being evicted would make him crazy, which would be hilarious for the rest of us.
itsonlyrocknroll
wallace
You have answered your question skilfully for me.
JD Vance delivered a wake up call, a harsh brutal slap in the face to Europe political elite, Germany France EU commission, the UK, a blatant refusal to listen to the genuine concerns of its citizens its people.
You are triggered, maybe angry irritated I through what could be considered a "off topic" troll, a googly.
However I believe the underlining narrative of this thread is linked to this MSC conference, JD Vance, ultimately the Ukrainian people struggle, the betrayal of EU/UK governments, past especially, but also present.
UK your country, one of the oldest parliamentary democracies subjecting convicting one of its own people of a thought crime!!!!
No excuses here
iknowall
As could Ukraine president Zelensky.
Yes he does.
Tamarama
Underworld
You are looking at the trees, but can't seem to see the forest. We are talking about the same thing, I was just under the impression that it was widely understood and known that Russia was happy for Ukraine to be a Ukraine, just as long as they didn't snuggle too closely with the US. NATO membership was a no-no. Europe doesn't want Ukraine as part of NATO, because they understand the geopolitical tensions and realities of the region. But it would seem that Ukraine has flown a little too close to the sun, and the Russians reacted.
I don't for one minute think that Russia has the right to invade Ukraine and start a war, but they did, and now the US, who Zelensky has bet hardest on, is taking their bat and ball and heading home.
Are Europe going to jump in to support Ukraine now? Don't think so. Ukraine are going to have to cop a loss here and ponder the reality reset. They have an overlord they have to live with.
patkim
Trump and his Secretary of Defense Hegseth were all enthusiastic about mentioning what concessions that Ukraine had to make, but when asked a very simple question, "What concessions will Russia have to make?", they could not answer it at all. There was only incoherent rambling. That is a clear sign that Trump is not negotiating with Russia, but for it.
Trump is so easily played. Putin was so happy that Trump was elected because he knows how to control him. Just give him a carrot (in the form of a hostage release) and then he'll cave in to making concessions. That's it.
wallace
iknowall
Russian President Vladimir Putin could end the war today.
Do you mean by surrendering?
Trump does not know what he is doing with Ukraine and has no end-game plan.
What is his endgame?
iknowall
Do you think surrendering is the only way Zelensky can end the war?
To end the war.
itsonlyrocknroll
wallace
If you would allow me to answer further here...
https://japantoday.com/category/world/germany's-scholz-rebukes-vance-defends-europe's-stance-on-hate-speech-and-far-right2
I agree my ad hoc remark swerves off topic....
Underworld
Tamarama
Ever since Russia annexed Crimea, which didn't have Ukrainians popping corks. This is understandable since Russia was backing the civil war in Donbas that it started. Also, when president Yanukovych fled to Russia in 2014, he took his heads of intelligence with them, so the CIA came in to help them out.
Not at all. Putin doesn't like NATO, but that isn't the reason for his interest in Ukraine. You have to remember when Putin annexed Crimea, that was in reaction to the Maidan protests that were about Ukraine joining the EU, not NATO. So NATO didn't trigger Putin, it was the EU having economic influence over Ukraine.
Putin doesn't see Ukraine as a sovereign nation and that it should be part of Russia. He wants political control of Ukraine. And he wants to erase the Ukrainian language and culture.
Well, it's unclear what Trump hopes to achieve. He says he wants a peace deal, but he is going about it all the wrong way.
I don't see the war stopping if Trump doesn't get a peace deal. Ukraine makes 40% of their own weapons.
I also think that Europe knows that Russia doesn't just threaten Ukraine, but other countries in the region. For that reason, I don't think they will stop supporting Ukraine.
Norm
Oh, so you’ve talked to him about this?
TokyoLiving
I hope Europe learn that being friend of US is a disaster..
US don't pretend to reach peace..
US just want to scavenga what left of Ukraine
TokyoLiving
*scavenge
wallace
iknowall
Do you mean by surrendering?
Putin could end his war by withdrawing his troops from Ukraine and ending the bombings. Zelenskyy can only end it by winning which is unlikely or by agreeing to a peace deal which will take many months if not years.
Zelenskyy cannot end the war in a day but Trump promised it would take him 24 hours.
What is Trump's endgame?
A very simplistic reply to a complicated problem requiring more than four simple words. Guess you just don't know just like Trump.
iknowall
As a Trump voter, and American, I am certain I know more about him than you.
The reality is, the war between Ukraine and Russia will end during Trump's administration. The more than 1 million people killed as Europe and Biden stood by motionless will all be for naught.
That is a fact. No matter what you think about conspiratorial stories swirling around the mainstream media outlets you get your "information" from.
Again--this war ends during Trump's term. Because of Trump. Europe has not any comparable strength as Trump does to do anything but sit in the sidelines and wait for America to make its next move towards the final resolution of this war.
bass4funk
If that were true, they all would be speaking Russian by now
Not pretend, but their interests is not necessarily our interests, so it depends how it’s done
Why not? With the billions of taxpayer money we put into that country, we should see a return. Friendship and alliances are always give and take, always, not personal, just business.
bass4funk
Well, exactly.
bass4funk
Putin doesn’t think so.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/business/putin-growing-concerned-by-russias-economy-as-trump-mulls-more-sanctions/articleshow/117478631.cms
Absolute nonsense, that’s like saying Trump controls the Germans. Libs believe their own hilarious rants
Yawn, not sure how you guys will cope the next 4 years….
Blacklabel
If Europe was to be in conversation, why haven’t any leftists been screaming that “Europe has done nothing to stop the war!”
I have never heard one leftist here ever claim stopping this war was anyone’s responsibility other than Trump (or Putin just randomly “going home”)
HopeSpringsEternal
EU overall, with a few exceptions like Poland and Estonia have not $performed, since this conflict which started in 2014 and greatly escalated in Feb 2022.
US has contributed about 3x more financial and military support than the EU, especially intel and logistics.
EU is just a bit partner and that includes defense more broadly since WWII ended, nothing has ever changed. Even EU minor support has been 'collateralized' as loans, while US under Biden did so unconditionally.
EU elites greatly benefited from huge inbound Ukraine immigration due to this conflict, stoking justifiable anger with their voters (who are now being suppressed) having to compete for jobs, housing, public services etc.
Ego Sum Lux Mundi
The corrupt kleptocrats of the EU are very, very worried that they will be left out of the peace negotiations between the USA and Russia. Which, of course, they will be, because they are a) irrelevant and b) worse than useless. The whole war could have been avoided and over one million lives saved if Boris Johnson hadn’t convinced the deranged Kiev regime that NATO could defend them from Russia.
Seriously, even Ghana and Niger don’t care what France thinks, much less Sweden. Why would Russia or the USA? The age of pretending everyone is equal and everyone matters equally is over.
wallace
iknowall
As a Trump voter, and American, I am certain I know more about him than you.
You do know my parents were American as our my family. But great then outline the main points of Trump's endgame especially how the US will provide security for the many years ahead.
Everyone would surely hope the war ends within the next four years. Are you suggesting Ukraine should have surrendered when Putin invaded? Is that what your country would do?
I don't do any conspiracy stories whatever they are about. I have zero interest in them.
You forget the US is a NATO member and Putin fears NATO and was his excuse for invading Ukraine. The startling aspect of the war is how poorly the Russian troops and weapons have been. NATO does not fear Putin.
I anticipate you outlining Trump's endgame.
HopeSpringsEternal
EU in political, social and economic chaos with likes of JD Vance questioning policies destroying free speech and voting rights of those justifiably angry at massive EU immigration - due to this conflict.
EU in no position to sit at the table, their house on fire. Most across world blame NATO for expansionist agenda these past 4 years, setting off this conflict, triggering currency global purchasing power collapse and inflation.
wallace
HopeSpringsEternal
Did you forget that America is a NATO member and all NATO members must agree to any expansion as with Finland and Sweden?
Yrral
US intel.is being run by a cult member, anyone should be skeptical of the US intelligence,unless you just fell off the turnip truck
HopeSpringsEternal
Impotent EU bureaucrats sitting at the table will only ENSURE this conflict will never be resolved. We need real leaders capable of producing real results.
Every single EU 'leader' on the way out the door with terrible favorability ratings, as their citizens do not support this proxy war and massive immigration and destruction of their currency power it's causing.
There is no path military for Ukraine, everyone agrees.
HopeSpringsEternal
NATO is going to go thru a DOGE 'restructuring' ASAP, the World does not need a ROGUE expansionist military alliance that's ANYTHING but Defensive.
EU and their globalists high-jacked feeble old Biden and global chaos and inflation resulted, so no seat at the table for these EU losers that have caused the starvation of millions and millions.
Blacklabel
we won’t. Someone who cares will.
Yrral
Blacklabel,the US can't protect an American on the street
kohakuebisu
Like many Trump and Team Trump statements, I don't know if this pronouncement is realistic or serious, but it is complete humiliation for Europe. It also came out (again) the other day that the UK is incapable of firing its Trident nuclear weapons without US assistance, something which Israel can do with the ones they illegally developed with fissile material stolen from the US. 2025 being 2025, this was gleefully received by US right wingers on Twitter etc. for yet more humiliation. The UK did everything it could to assist the US failed exercusions into Afghanistan and Iraq. There has been no reward for this.
Its now a multipolar world and Europeans have been foolish to oursource their foreign policy and defence to the US. US meddling in Ukraine has been disastrous for Ukraine and very bad, possibly era-ending, for Europe, but it is Europe's fault for going along with it.
Step one should be to stop meaningless sanctions on Russia and do something about high energy prices decimating what is left of European industry. Step two should be to heavily tax US digital services and stop giving them a free ride in Europe.
wallace
Zelenskiy refused to sign a rare earth mineral contract with Trump because it contained no security assurance. The same goes for any peace treaty.
Bob Fosse
Will we “hear all about it in 2 weeks”?
HopeSpringsEternal
US needs to 'secure' it's Biden Admin unconditional and open-ended blank check support of this insane proxy war. EU has secured all its support via a 'loan' scheme.
DJT is correct to pursue a mechanism to recover the US financial support, via resources especially.
It will also result in much needed economic development for Ukraine and will require 'security' or a potential backdoor for a US military role to keep the peace.
Don't need the EU "grifters' involved directly, as their support is already collateralized...not surprisingly/grifters.
Blacklabel
Total melodramatic panic from Europe now that they actually have to DO something:
John-San
Tai: 36 Palestinians lifers release along with another 330 Palestinians hostages released today by Israel for three IDF terrorist. That is another win for Hamas. You got rear ended by NK and they now have Nucs LOL that a win in any book. Mate who is the USA President ? and who did he beat. That conversation is pure comedy gold.
HopeSpringsEternal
Most of us here care about a just and lasting peace for Ukraine, not a continued pathway to WWIII with plenty of corresponding currency purchasing power destruction, inflation and insane military spending increases.
DJT is just the right catalyst to achieve above, why he was elected. And why current EU leadership on the way out the door = they FAILED, not seat at Table for LOSERS
Blacklabel
And I guess most importantly, who exactly is this “Europe” who is demanding a seat at the table?
Who by name represents “Europe”?
also, if there is a negotiation at a table and Putin is there:
has Trump now “brought Putin to the negotiating table”?
I know the left was claiming that hadn’t happened.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Intelligent people realize that not everything in the world is controlled by the president. Otherwise Trump would have ended the war by now or ever.
TaiwanIsNotChina
The sputtering and flailing is obvious. Also only weapons can secure Ukraine's independence.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Hostages were coming out throughout last year including under the Biden peace plan.
HopeSpringsEternal
Everyone wants Ukraine to be a safe prosperous country and that means NEVER being again a NATO 'proxy' army threatening Russia to most, including Ukrainians.
DJT will deliver fair deal for all, especially Ukraine and US taxpayers, while taking WIII & currency purchasing power destruction Off the Table = Great News for WORLD!
EvilBuddha
Trump administration officials have also made clear in recent days that they expect European allies in NATO to take primary responsibility for the region as the U.S. now has other priorities, such as border security and countering China.
A sensible stand. Trump is one of the most pragmatic US President.
And why should US continue to spend billions for the security of rich European nations? It is China which wants to supplant the US militarily, economically and geopolitically, not Russia. If there is a detente between the US and Russia, the US will be free to focus on China. And Russia also will not need to depend on China that much.
The Trump administration should cut a deal with Putin immediately and remove all sanctions on Russia.
Underworld
HopeSpringsEternal
NATO have never threatened Russia and this isn't a proxy war.
bass4funk
Well, you now see why people didn't vote for Biden, eeexactly.
Europe has a lot of them.
Thanks to Trump threatening Hamas, Joe, you are welcome.
quercetum
The US and Russia screwed Ukraine over multiple times.
The Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine in 1990 stated that Ukraine would not accept, acquire, or produce nuclear weapons, and its government declared on 24 October 1991 that Ukraine would be a non-nuclear-weapon state.[12]
On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, United Kingdom, and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state. The four parties signed the memorandum, containing a preamble and six paragraphs. The memorandum reads as follows:[13]
The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
(Source: Wikipedia)
Underworld
EvilBuddha
Trump administration officials have also made clear in recent days that they expect European allies in NATO to take primary responsibility for the region as the U.S. now has other priorities, such as border security and countering China.
Except if you don't look after Ukraine, China will think that it can invade Taiwan and the US won't respond.
Doesn't sound like a sensible and pragmatic stand to me.
buchailldana
Donald Trump " the appeaser in chief"
Underworld
iknowall
Well the war hasn't ended yet, so it isn't a fact.
Don't you think you are jumping the gun?
Bob Fosse
But the things he says are not to be taken literally. Everybody knows that. Except when they are, sometimes. Then it’s real. You can quote him on it. But sometimes the context means it was just banter. And don’t forget the legacy media something or other.
It must be terribly confusing being maga.
bass4funk
You don't have to, Hamas does.
Well, he has more validity than Biden has ever had, when TRump drops down to 20% popularity, hit me up, then you can go on a tirade of how bad Trump is, in the meantime, enjoy the ride.
No, a breath of fresh air and spring water