A former U.S. Ku Klux Klan chief was arrested Friday in a Prague restaurant while he was on a speaking tour here, Czech police said. Former Grand Wizard of the Louisiana-founded Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke, was arrested on suspicion of promoting movements seeking the suppression of human rights, police spokesman Jan Mikulovsky told local media.
The arrest, in a tourist area of picturesque old Prague, took place in "quite confused" circumstances, said David Janda, the head of an anti-extremism unit of the city's police force.
Janda said Duke -- who had been due to give three lectures in the Czech Republic -- was guarded at the restaurant's entrance by militants belonging to a known far-right group "Narodni Odpor," which means national resistance.
Duke, a U.S. citizen, is suspected of denying or approving of the Holocaust and other Nazi crimes, according to the CTK news agency. This crime is punishable by up to three years in prison in the Czech Republic.
Czech Interior Minister Ivan Langer and Human Rights and Minorities Minister Michael Kocab had each expressed disapproval of the visit earlier in the week.
The Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1866 by a group of Civil War veterans from the defeated Confederacy, a group of southern states that upheld slavery and maintained African Americans were inferior to whites.
It is notorious the world over for terrorising black Americans through lynchings, cross burnings and other hate crimes.
The group enjoyed a peak membership of about five million in 1925, including politicians and even a member of the U.S. Supreme Court.
But the Klan went into virtual bankruptcy as early as the late 1920s and since the late 1970s, its membership has varied between 3,000 and 6,000.
© Wire reports
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Elbuda Mexicano
My crocodile tears go out for old Davy Duke! When will these idiot KKK fools ever learn? All of the world ain't like the Deep red neck south of the USA!! Hope he has fun in jail and preferebly with Jewish prison gaurds!
jeancolmar
Unfortunately, much of Eastern Europe, particularly Russia, is like the redneck deep south. There are good reasons for the Czechs to be worried about the poisonous influence of people like David Duke.
It is hard to say what influence the various KKK groups now have in the US. One thing is certain. The KKK (or KKKs) did not wither away in the 1920s. Klansmen were responsible for considerable violence during the civil rights struggles in the 1960s.
Duke seems to have funding from somewhere in order to travel to the Czech Republic.
Duke is dangerous enough in the US but he is particularly dangerous in Eastern Europe. The fall of Communism has left both an economic and ideological hole in many East European countries. Unfortunately, that hole is being filled by fascists for many disillusioned youths. It is worst in Russia where crimes against non-whites, particularly blacks, are rampant by neo-Nazis.
skipthesong
elbun:
The KKK is nothing compared to MS13, 5%-ers, NBPP, nor any of those Mexican cartels, yet we can't do a thing about them.
I am curious though, how does a right wing white supremacist get to hang out in Iran and not in Czech?
skipthesong
JC: its gonna get worse!
skipthesong
I think Obama should try to get the KKK to the talking table.
The violent nutcases are attracted to Duke's philosophy, and the end result is that innocent people get shot." Do a bit more research, the KKK ain't nothing compare the new groups out there.
IcingDeath
Well, this is good news. Brightened up my Day a bit.
teleprompter
"Unfortunately, much of Eastern Europe, particularly Russia, is like the redneck deep south."
I wouldn't stop at Eastern Europe.
Western Europe gave the world Nazism, and -just one example - France has seen skyrocketing numbers of hate crimes against Jews these last few years.
IcingDeath
Wow, seems like the whole world is getting increasingly nationalistic. I guess this is one of the effects of an increasingly globalized world. I wonder if we humans are strong enough to make it work? I have my doubts.
hokkaidoguy
Why do articles about Duke always fail to mention that he is a former Louisiana State Representative (Republican)?
Seems an odd omission to me.
sailwind
Why do articles about Duke always fail to mention that he is a former Louisiana State Representative (Republican)?
Seems an odd omission to me.
That would be because then they would have to also mention that he was a Democrat first.
Wiki-entry
Duke ran as a Democrat for the Louisiana Senate in 1975.
Duke allegedly conducted a direct-mail appeal in 1987, using the identity and mailing-list of the Georgia Forsyth County Defense League without permission. League officials described it as a fund-raising scam. (It is detailed in The Rise of David Duke by Tyler Bridges.)
In 1988, he ran in the Democratic presidential primaries. After a poor showing, he appeared on many state ballots in the general election as the nominee of the Populist Party. He appeared on the ballot for President in eleven states, some with Trenton Stokes of Arkansas for Vice President, and on other state ballots with Floyd Parker for Vice President. He received just 47,047 votes, for 0.04 percent of the combined, national popular vote.[19]
[edit] Challenging John Treen, winning Louisiana House seat In December 1988, Duke changed his political affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.
timorborder
Where is the outrage?
The US should consider its military options vis-a-vis liberating this person from the cruel oppression of the democratically-elected government of the Czech Republic. What about a Euro version of the plan to liberate Jessica Simpson? Go in there and get Duke while he is still strapped to a bed.
On the other hand, Duke might be facing some time in a Czech prison, becoming good friends with his cell mate Big Igor, who just happens to be the distant cousin of Big Bubba, who is currently a guest of the Great State of Georgia.
teleprompter
A search using terms like "Cracker Culture" or "Celtic Ways in the Old South" might be educational for some here.
Helter_Skelter
I wonder if his pal Ahmadinejad with post bail.
goodDonkey
Helter_Skelter said:
The ultra conservative Republican David Duke and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad certainly have one thing in common they are both conservatives.
likeitis
Wow. You know, its really too bad you had to launch into such an aggresive pointing out of Duke's Democrat past. Its also very telling. You would have been better off to leave it alone.
But no, you had to pick at it. Look, Duke is has been a Republican for the past 20 years. And he was not a successful politician UNTIL running as a Republican! Do you understand what that means? It means Dems would not have him despite his claims to be one of them. Republicans would not have him because he was a Dem. But as soon as he becomes a Republican, voila! Success.
Nope. He is a Republican. Not only in name, but also in acceptance.
No, the reason his House seat is not mentioned is because so many Americans, both Democrat and Republican alike, are embarrassed by him. I take it that you are one of those Republicans embarrassed, and your aggressive post seems to prove that.
likeitis
I do not agree with Duke on many things, but I also do not think his words are all that bad. The question is though, does he actually mean what he says? Like when he says he supports the idea that the races should stay separate but live in peace, does he really mean that? Its hard to tell. And even if he does, there remains the question of what others think he means. I think a great many of his followers don't agree with the finer points of his words and would be far happier trying to wipe out other races rather than leave in peace with them. But Duke as a spokesman is as close as they are going to get...for now.
One of the biggest problems I have with him is his apparent inability to separate Jewish people the world over from the country of Israel. I am certainly no supporter of Israel either, but many Jews have a problem with the actions of Israel. Heck, even many Israels have a problem with them, just like I have a problem with the actions of my own country.
Helter_Skelter
Is that your best material? So lame not even worth responding.
teleprompter
Duke knew that within the Republican Party and in US politics he'd never go as far as - oh, Democrat senator and former KKK Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd, for example - so it looks like he has taken his little show on the road.
teleprompter
Canada's support for Israel is nothing to be ashamed of.
toguro
Likeitis: Just out of curiousity, could you explain why it is that the Democratic Party hs so much Love for Senator Byrd of West Virginia who is also a former klansman? I would love to hear more about David Duke and his lovely vacation to Estern Europe. LOL
likeitis
I was talking about the United States of America actually. And it IS something to be ashamed of. Your country, Russia, probably is not making such a mistake.
sailwind
Wrong, the party never wanted anything to do with this opportunistic racist nutbag. He was fringe in the when he was Democrat and was fringe when he called himself a Democrat. I'd also suggest some posters here might be real careful in their attempts to link him as a Neo-Con.
He has more in common with the left wing fringe the a Republican and isn't even close to being a conservative.
heck, his position mirrors Gooddonkey's and yours exactly by the way when it comes to Iraq. You both could have said this almost word for word.
On August 5, 2005, Duke published an article stating support for Cindy Sheehan, saying that "The Iraq war and her son’s death did not defend America from hatred or terrorism" and that "In fact, the war is massively increasing hatred and terrorism. For every one terrorist killed in Iraq, we are creating thousands more who hate and want to hurt America and Americans. This is the surest way to lose the war on terror, not win it."[74]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke
A liitle advice, I'd do a little more research on this racist nut before trying to use him as a smear tactic on those that don't ascribe to your left wing anti-war political views.
Helter_Skelter
Likeitis - well, certainly neo-Nazis, Islamists, and Socialists like yourself are ashamed. Which means US support for Israel must be a good thing.
likeitis
Byrd is even more "former" than Duke. He has totally renounced his past and his present statements on the subjects are on the opposite side of the spectrum from Duke's.
But your wriggling and writhing with this shame is just as palpable as Sailwind's. Keep it up. I am sure it can only get more amusing as you continue to try to pass this painful buck.
sailwind
Apologies, I have been having keyboard problems lately with the 'puter'.
He was fringe in the when he was Democrat and was fringe when he called himself a Democrat. The sentence should read,
He was fringe in the Republican party and he was fringe when he called himself a Democrat.
skipthesong
He'd be a repub or a dem and either party would gladly let him in if they felt he could win a good deal of votes. Now, I think we should change this thread from becoming a my party is better than your party crap.
Good Donkey, he and achmedinard got a lot more in common: The both hate Jews. If Israel didn't exist, they would still hate them. They are both right wingers They are both of the Caucasian race. Yes, Iranians are considered Caucasians. They both think they are in accordance with their fantasy gods. They both love the spot light. Should I keep going on?
Here is the issue, should someone be arrested for something they said or something they do? As much as I don't like what he is saying, and he has targeted my kind I am sure, but I would not want to have laws in place that would have you arrested for speech. If that's the case, they the Czech republic should arrest the Iranian president too.
toguro
likeitis: Easy Easy, I'm just playing devils advocate. I never stated one way or the other as to which political party I'm affiliated with. It all makes for good discussion. LOL
likeitis
You left out a great many Jews, among others. Unlike you, many people support principles, instead of brethren despite all the evil they do. Its always sad for me to run across people like you who have no principles.
Anyway, you might want to read some articles from the newspaper Hareetz. Its Israeli. Wiki says:
If intelligent Israelis can oppose certain Israeli action, then I feel completely justified as well. And your ridiculous slander has no effect.
teleprompter
David Duke was invited to Iran. He has spoken at universities in the Ukraine. This article finds him on a European tour.
Looks like he is far more popular outside America than in.
LIBERTAS
Well, rather than use that pillar of truth, Wikipedia, take Duke's word from the horse's mouth: http://www.davidduke.com/ Deep breath, cup of coffee, and then talk to the issue, not hearsay. Ya gotta like his comments about funding that only democracy in the Middle east!
likeitis
Votes? In the case of Byrd, I think it might be more about pork, Skip. But there are other reasons to like Byrd. Like his long, long years of public service. He is the longest serving Senator in the entire history of the Senate. He is the oldest man serving currently.
Then you have his stauch criticism of Emperor Palpatine. Did I say Palapatine? Sorry, I meant to type the Bush Administration.
teleprompter
How does the length of one's service to country excuse moral shortcomings? As a Canadian you are undoubtedly aware that your longest-serving prime minister, Mackenzie King, praised Hitler and was instrumental in establishing an immigration policy that kept Jews fleeing Nazism out of Canada.
skipthesong
you know, the next time the Iranian president comes to the US and talks his usual talk, let's have him arrested too. If you support this arrest, you must also support that arrest.
skipthesong
I wonder how Rev Write is taking this? Or Lois Farakhan for that matter.
You think Achmedinijad will diplomatically ask Czech to release Duke? Will Jessie?
goodDonkey
David Duke is a conservative and has always been a conservative. It is easy for someone to try to deceive you and tell you that David Duke, likeitis and myself all share the exact position when it comes to Iraq. A poster stated "heck, his position mirrors Gooddonkey's and yours exactly by the way when it comes to Iraq."
The person making such a falatious statement cannot fully know likeitis' position on Iraq.
The person making such a fallacious statement cannot fully know my position on Iraq.
The person making such a fallacious statement cannot even fully know David Duke's position on Iraq.
Sailwind just wanted to make an incendiary statement to bait me. How many of you believe "heck, his position mirrors Gooddonkey's and yours exactly by the way when it comes to Iraq. You both could have said this almost word for word."
Because if you do not believe his statement you must then conclude that he is being dishonest. Just be particularly aware that he uses the statement "word for word."
Some people can't stand that people like David Duke and the KKK members are conservatives. Feel free to look that one up; don't take any posters word for it; including mine. If Republican David Duke had been elected he would have imposed strict conservative restrictions on Americans. He would have sought to take away a woman's right to choose. He would have imposed laws to discriminate against blacks as the conservative Republicans often did last century. He would have tried to restrict equal rights for women as the Republicans did last century. He would have forced the conservatives brand of religion into public schools like the Republicans still want to do. I could go on and on about DAVID DUKE THE REPUBLICAN and prove his conservative VALUES. But I think I have made my point.
I did not bring up Ahmadinejad. Helter_Skelter did. But then, when I compared David Duke and said it was their conservatism that linked the two he could only insult me instead of properly refuting my claim. You will find the Iranian leader wants to roll back the rights of women and follows the agenda of forcing conservative "values" upon his citizens. I posted several points of this past election cycle's Republican Platform. I really wish people would take the time to read the Republican Platform. It contains their conservative approach to teach abstinence and not allow any other mention of contraception in schools. It also contains the restrictive approach that conservatives continue to demand of other citizens whether in America, Iran, Japan or elsewhere.
David Duke was a conservative in the truest sense of the word.
bushlover
Who cares about David Duke? Not me. Let them keep him and let him rot in an Eastern European jail. Anyone affiliated with that group of idiots called the KKK deserve to rot in jail. Nazis in white sheets. Proud members of ignorance.
JoeBigs
David Duke a far right wing neo con if there ever was one. He seems to always show up at those fun loving far right ring shing dings.
I find it funny how that now that Bush is out we find him back in the news....What was he doing these last 8 years? Being a diplomat for Cheney or maybe one of Cheney's torturers?
It is so funny reading posts by our far right wingers here whenever someone like David Duke pops back up. Our far right wingers try their darnest to hide the fact that he is a neo-con.
So bloody funny...
They try to claim that he is not a neo-con by trying to tell us what he has done in the past. But fact be the killer, his beliefs are their beliefs. Hell of a way to try and hide their faults by trying to hide their cousin in dark rooms.....LOL
Wonder how many here would vote for him now if he ran for office?LOL
But of course they would never admit to voting for this man....LOL
Taka313
Trying to connect david duke to the liberal movement because of his statements on Iraq is silly. He stated the same thing the NIE reports did. Stating that the war in Iraq has increased anti-American sentiment in the ME and created more terrorists is not a political statement. It's simply the truth. I'm sure david duke is pro-ice cream and anti-cancer, just like me and just like most people on "the right." Having something in common and being linked are two entirely different things.
Taka
grafton
Duke is a politician & will wear whatever hat gets him where he wants to be. He will be friends with anybody that will help get there, he will say anything that gets the votes, especially of the gullible. As for his comments on Iraq he only said what we all said, even the pro-war people could see that & said that. Taka313 answers it perfectly with his pro- ice-cream & anti-cancer, Pol Pot & mother Teresa could be said to share the same thinking if you really try hard enough. So stop beating each other up over a near forgotten KKK bigot that now needs to preach to the really gullible right wing Czechs because his own country will no longer waste time listening to him.
Helter_Skelter
LOL! If there's one thing David Duke ain't, it's a neo con. Neo cons are considered strong supporters of Israel. JoeBigs, know what you're talking about before posting. Here's what David Duke has to say about neo cons:
"But the one wild card is that these neo-cons are crazy. They are insane people. They are Jewish fanatics, extremists, they are not normal people."
GoodDonkey, all those who I'd consider conservative on this thread, including myself, have done nothing but trash David Duke. Your silly attempt to tie conservatives to David Duke is just that. I'd say David Duke is part of the radical right. But he's certainly not a conservative.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/news/duke_anti_zionism.htm
JoeBigs
So you are saying that David Duke is not a Neo-Conservative nor a far right winger, right?
Interesting because one of the descriptions of a neo-conservative is.....
A neo-conservative (abbreviated as neo-con or neocon) is part of a U.S. based political movement rooted in liberal Cold War anticommunism and a backlash to the social liberation movements of the 1960s and 1970s. These liberals drifted toward conservatism: thus they are new (neo) conservatives. They favor an aggressive unilateral U.S. foreign policy. They generally believe that elites protect democracy from mob rule. Sometimes the spelling is "neoconservative."
Interesting facts about David Duke, he was a Democrat in the 1970's. Even ran for office under the old Southern Democratic flag. But then changed his beliefs and became a Republican.
Now what is a the meaning of a NeoConservative again? Help out our dear far right wing freinds Bob tell them what a Neo-con is;
These liberals drifted toward conservatism: thus they are new (neo) conservatives.
Try that one on for size, it says nothing that you have to support Israel. It just states that you changed you stripes and want a stronger America so you America can defeat Communism.
Hm I wonder what a fine fine neo-conservative like David Dukes thinks about Communism?
I do not think he has an ounce of leftist beliefs in him........
David Dukes is a Far Right Wing nutbag Republican Neo-Conservative.
You can not try and hide him in the closet Helter_Skelter, he is one of yours.
Helter_Skelter
Then, I guess according to your logic, Joseph Stalin was really just a liberal. He is one of yours.
JoeBigs
I am glad that you are accepting David Dukes as one of yours. This goes to show you that we can agree. This is a great leap forward for the far right, I am glad.
BTW Joseph Stalin was to far to the far left for my taste (I disagree with Communist views), and being that I an Independent I would have to disagree with your belief. He was not one of mine, he was toooooooooo far to the left for me to accept him.
teleprompter
David Duke, in the New Republic, March 12, 2008:
"[I] don't see much difference in Barack Obama than Hillary Clinton--or, for that matter, John McCain."
likeitis
I keep telling you conservatives because you guys never seem to get it. Its not about the people. Its about the principles. Trash Duke or not, you share more of his principles than you care to admit. Do go ahead and throw him under the bus though.
Frankly, as per the above, I find these kinds of statements a little unfair (also the people who got this ball rolling did so by saying ridiculous things to disassociate themselves from Duke). He was never invited into a political party nor can he be barred. He just declared himself a Republican, just like he once declared himself a Democrat. His successful election reflects ONLY on the people (mostly Republicans no doubt) in Louisiana who voted for him, and not on all those Republicans across the country who didn't.
Let us judge Duke and everyone else on their words, principles and actions. Bear in mind though, as soon as Duke is mentioned, some people here are going to start suddenly lying about what their principles are. Let us nail them for that. Duke's general position on the political spectrum is not all that helpful, except to say that he as far to the right from most conservative posters here as Castro is far to left of the liberals here.
Helter_Skelter
JoeBigs, I've never accepted David Duke and couldn't have made that point clearer. It's the voices in your head telling you that.
Moderator: Readers, no more sniping at each other please.
Helter_Skelter
likeitis - I see conservatives here trashing David Duke. How come I never see liberals trashing Castro?
goodDonkey
If you look throughout HelterSkelter's history of posting you will find various of statements against Muslims. All you need to do is substitute a different group of people and it is the same rhetoric as David Duke. I think we hit a nerve with Helter_Skelter. By the way I am quite sure David Duke is no great fan of Muslims either.
sailwind
I'm sure that since he was invited by the Islamic Republic of Iran to be a guest speaker at a Holocaust Denial Conference and he was more than happy to accept that he is 'no great fan of Muslims' either (rolls eyes).
likeitis
I think its because liberals fart into the wind in their own special ways. Trashing Castro just seems like a collosal waste of time, particularly with others doing it so actively. I too cannot see anything to do but tolerate him, even if I hate him as much as any other dictator. Actively opposing him has not been very productive. So much so that is actually a little embarrassing to remember just how much of a failure U.S. policy toward Cuba has been. I certainly have no desire to pick at it.
But David Duke is definitely an internal and real American problem. He is at the center of embarrassment for all us Americans, although I am not completely sure that he is the actual cause. There is a lot of group think and bandwagoning going on. Duke's actual words are getting lost in the mob frenzy.
SuperLib
I think it's accepted that the KKK has little to no influence in the US. Even their past power was never really that influential. Duke is a politician and he's plugged into world affairs. That's what brings him to other countries. Giving the KKK credit for that mostly shows the extent to which the KKK's influence is overstated.
goodDonkey
sailwind said:
David Duke said:
http://www.davidduke.com/general/re-jews-vs-arabs_320.html
That was funny sailwind when you "(rolls eyes)." Teenage girls text that all the time and they are funny too. Just because David Duke uses the Arabs or Muslims to spread his hate for the Jews does not therefore mean that he is offering a ringing endorsement. It is well known his primary hate is for the Jews. He will do anything to spread hate for/about/at the Jews.
I said that David Duke was no fan of the Muslims. He said in the quote I posted up above that he does not want Muslims in our country. Let's just see how sailwind will try to spin this one to "prove that goodDonkey is wrong!" It really reminds me of the conservatives who maintained that they supported the Jews while denying them entry into their Country Clubs and other private institutions.
sailwind
Just because you use Conservatives to spread your hate for Republicans doesn't mean your offering a ringing endorsement either. You and him have much in common with the use of 'stereotypes'.
teleprompter
Incredible.
Islam. is. not. a. "race".
How many times do people need to be told this?
goodDonkey
sailwind said:
It didn't behoove sailwind to admit that he was mistaken but he took the time to state that I hated people.
I don't hate Republicans. My parents were Republicans and I loved them when they were alive and I still love them. I have friends that are Republicans. I tend to gravitate toward more moderate Republicans which don't express views that would entail controlling other innocent citizen's lives, but hey that is just me. I am sorry but I find hatred of Muslims abhorrent and if you want to support the JT posters that spread the hate that is your prerogative.
Sailwind, please do not make unfounded statements of who I hate. I can hate the actions of a person without hating them. You might want to give it a try.
telepromter said:
You posted a quote of mine that did not even mention race. You are hilarious. Why don't you try posting a quote of mine that specifies that Islam is a race?; that's right you can't because no such comment of mine exists. If I chose to compare racism with bigotry that is my prerogative. There is nothing wrong with comparing groups of different classifications in a debate.
telepromter, please do not associate my quotes with misinformation.
Nessie
Just deny him a visa. No need to give him a soapbox.
Altria
Throw him in Guantanamo!
teleprompter
David Duke appears to be more popular outside of the US than in.
Maybe the US State Dept should just refuse him reentry to the United States and basically exile him.
sailwind
goodDonkey,
The past few months the posts between us have gotten more and more personal and turning in a direction that should have never happened. I do apologize to you for the tone that I have also taken in response to our ever escalating war of words as to who can 'outpost' who here in defense of our respective positions. I've looked over some of my past posts to you and I don't like what I saw in me when it came to some very heated discussions (this one included). You may continue this little battle between us if you so desire, I for one will endeavor to lift the discussion between us back to a more civil tone. I will tell you straight up. The Republican party disowned this racist fool the moment he called himself a 'Republican'. He never was considered a Republican by anyone who actually is one. He was and is an embarrassment to the Republican party and all the American people and deserves nothing but all the scorn that one can heap on this blight on humanity. The Republican Party did that from day one on this opportunistic charleton going so far to endorse every Democratic candidate this fool ran agaisn't. I do travel in more Conservative circles then you have in my life. I can also tell straight up that I have never met a person that I've known with a conservative outlook to also feel total disgust with David Duke and his 'White Power Nazi Garbarge'. To see people trying to tie in Conservatives or the Republicans as somehow in support or in league with this racist was and is in my opinion in some waysjust as disgusting as the practices that Duke did by calling himself a 'republican' to try and legitimize his political agenda. I got very upset with that and posted accordingly. I ask that you try to understand from what place my posts were comming from. On a little personal note, I'm sorry that your parents are no longer with us, from your brief writing they seemed to have been pretty good people and I hope you will always have good memories of them. My parents are both alive and another little personal note that relates to this Duke fool. I'm half-German. My mother was born in 1940 in Nazi Germany. She remembers the end of the war. She saw the half-starved Jewish prisoners that were wandering the countryside in ragged columnes toward the end of the war as they were shuttled into camps closer into the heart of Germany as the Allies advanced. My Mother was an actual witness to the Holocaust from the German side with 5 year old innocent eyes and as far as David Duke goes.....he can rot all day long in a Czech prison.
sailwind
I can also tell straight up that I have never met a person that I've known with a conservative outlook to NOT also feel total disgust with David Duke and his 'White Power Nazi Garbarge'.
Sorry short typo, that 'NOT' was pretty important in that sentence to be left out.
smithinjapan
bushlover: "Who cares about David Duke? Not me. Let them keep him and let him rot in an Eastern European jail. Anyone affiliated with that group of idiots called the KKK deserve to rot in jail. Nazis in white sheets. Proud members of ignorance."
Wow... I actually agree with you. This man's politics are that of hatred, plain and simple. Lumping him into either Democrat or Republican is simply foolish. Shame on sailwind for bringing it up, despite trying to rectify it later. Kudos to those who can look beyond it and simply condemn the man himself. And kudos in particular to the country in question, especially if they put him behind bars for a long, long time.
IchyaWarFare
Wow, so is he in Jail? I hope he does not get any diplomatic immunity or whatever.
IcingDeath
Diplomatic immunity is only for foreign diplomats, hence the name. I highly doubt that any one serving public office in America is gonna kick up a fuss over this guy. He was instrumental in taking the party founded by Abraham Lincoln and making it a haven for extremists and bigots. How Ironic.
zurcronium
Duke is a lifetime republican candidate, the symbol of the southern strategy used by Nixon to fool the southern whites into voting republican. I heard recently that Palin may want Duke in her 2012 election run to get rid of the black guy in the Whitehouse.
Seriously, how many black republicans are there? The party must be 99% white and southern now. They dont have a single black person elected to congress, not one since 2002. Duke must be proud of that.
OhioDonna
Yeah!
By the way, I know quite a few black republicans.
JoeBigs
That is incorrect, in the 1970's he was a Southern Democrat. But gave up being a Democrat because the party was not white enough for him. So he became a Neo-Con and won a term in the House of Representatives.
When the Republican's gave the leadership of the party to Steele he said, and I quote;
GOP traitors appoint Black racist as Chairman of the Republican Party
http://www.davidduke.com/general/gop-traitors-appoint-black-racist-as-chairman-of-the-republican-party_7443.html
Funny how he feels betrayed by his fellow white Republican party members that he calls them traitors.LOL
I wonder who else in the white Republican party feel the same way? I wonder if Duke is just stating what many far right republicans want to say out laud but won't?
sailwind
Hey Joe,
Guess who is 'base' really is?
Read it and weep. It's from the New York Times no less.
Like a traveling road show that folds its tent in one town and opens it in the next, the David Duke campaign is back, this time as an aside to Presidential politics.
The question is whether Mr. Duke, whose disaffected blue-collar base is made up more of traditional Democrats than Republicans, can make much of an impact in primaries where the constituency and the rules may work against him.
Mr. Duke, who announced last week that he would challenge President Bush in next year's Republican primaries, is concentrating on the South, on states in which Democrats can vote in Republican primaries and on states in which candidates can pick up a share of delegates without finishing first in the primary. He has identified about 20 states as potential places to campaign.
But with party rules that make it difficult for also-rans to pick up stray delegates and with overwhelming hostility from the Republican Party leadership, Mr. Duke is in the odd position of needing support from Democratic voters to do well in Republican primaries. Experts say his biggest impact could come if he mounted a third-party candidacy in the general election in November in the manner of the George Wallace campaigns of 1968 and 1972. 'A Media Creation'
READ THIS PART AGAIN.......The question is whether Mr. Duke, whose disaffected blue-collar base is made up more of traditional Democrats than Republicans,
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/13/us/in-perpetual-candidacy-duke-raises-the-stakes.html
SiouxGirl
I think the races should live apart. Some have to try it so they can realize that it doesn't solve ANY problems. You can find plenty of reasons to hate someone other than race. The peace will be short-lived - fleeting, even.
JoeBigs
Yeah...huh...mm...So what you are saying is that he was challenging GHW Bush for the Republican nomination, so that makes David Duke really a Democrat? Huh, real logic there...yeah...mmm Keep pulling on those straws....
Now what party does David Duke belong to? Oh yeah there is a big (R) on his voter card....LOL
sailwind
Hey Joe
What about his base giggle boy.
The question is whether Mr. Duke, whose disaffected blue-collar base is made up more of traditional Democrats than Republicans, can make much of an impact in primaries where the constituency and the rules may work against him.
The New York Times
JoeBigs
Giggle boy here, the question has nothing to do with his base which many are Neo-Cons (former southern democrats who became republicans). The question is why does the far right try to convince everyone else that he is not a Republican.LOL
David Duke is a Republican there is not getting away from that fact. If he smells like a neo-con and walks like a neo-con and talks like a neo-con he must be a neo-con. How can you dispute that fact is beyond anyone here.
I understand that you would rather have have him be supported by the Democrats. If I were in your shoes I too would be trying to convince the world that he belonged to the other party. But the fact is he wears a large R next to his name. Sorry but he is a neo-con......
You have a very weak case and I do not think anyone other than a far right Republican will support you. LOL
The Republican party is so so so a country club party that it does not play well with others. LOL
BTW I did like the giggle boy name comment.....Do not be upset, just accept the facts...lol
sailwind
Hey Joe,
Did you miss this part from the article?
But with party rules that make it difficult for also-rans to pick up stray delegates and with overwhelming hostility from the Republican Party leadership, Mr. Duke is in the odd position of needing support from Democratic voters to do well in Republican primaries.
He can have a big 'R' by his name all he wants, the party didn't have anything to do with this clown. If they did why we need 'Democcratic voters' to win the open primaries? Could it be perhaps Republicans would never vote for this fraud.
Yeah Joe, some Neo-Con and 'Republican' David Duke is.
sailwind
By the Joe, how do interpret 'overwhelming hostility from the Republican Party Leadership?......Some sort of welcome aboard invite in your LOL world?
likeitis
SiouxGirl: I think the races should live apart. Some have to try it so they can realize that it doesn't solve ANY problems. You can find plenty of reasons to hate someone other than race. The peace will be short-lived - fleeting, even.
Good post. Lately I just wish we could put the stupid people back pulling plows so that I do not have to read their crap here. Stupid people come in all races by the way and are a core problem with the world.
WilliB
David Duke gets arrested, and Mahmood Ahmedinejad gets red carpet invitations to speak at the UN.
George Orwell would have loved this.
Molenir
You know how you become a member of the Republican party? Fill out a voter registration card and mark Republican, where it gives you a choice between, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Green, Libertarian, and Other. So, if Duke filled out a new one and marked Democrat, then that would make everyone in the Democratic party culpable right? Oh wait no, then idiots would just spout off on how he used to be a Republican...
I don't like Duke, but I find it disturbing that he is arrested merely for giving a speech, even if I strongly disagree with everything he says. Of course laws in other countries are different, and freedom of speech is different in other places as well. Still, I'm not going to shed any tears over Duke spending a few years in a Czech jail. Far as I'm concerned, they can have him.
IchyaWarFare
Now, if this is not off topic, I do not know what is. But hey moderator, just to make you feel better:
In what ways do people submitting their views on this topic make you the moderator of what is "stupid" and what is not. To tell people to separate and pick up plows, puts you in the same category as Duke. I guess you will be running for some type of ruling party yourself.
sabiwabi
Contrary to what some people say, I'm not a big fan of Dr. Duke. But I don't remember him ever saying anything to indicate that he approved of the holocaust. And he isn't even much of a "denier", when he attended the holocaust conference in Iran, I don't think he talked directly about the holocaust but instead focused on freedom of speech.
Henry Kelly
"Duke, a U.S. citizen, is suspected of denying or approving of the Holocaust and other Nazi crimes,"
Sounds like an encompassing crime heading.