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The more he denies it, the higher the figure will be. Trump should really learn to shut his mouth, but his narcissistic ego won't allow him to stop telling lies.

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Causus -court-primary-court.

Looks to be the Trump strategy as he marches toward nomination.

I just hope the Dems can offer someone to deliver a better reckoning in the general than Joe Biden.

Someone who can really offer political solutions for the people that can short circuit Trump and capitalize on the general disgust most have about him.

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dagon

Causus -court-primary-court.

Looks to be the Trump strategy as he marches toward nomination.

I just hope the Dems can offer someone to deliver a better reckoning in the general than Joe Biden.

Someone who can really offer political solutions for the people that can short circuit Trump and capitalize on the general disgust most have about him.

Trump is in trouble. He only got half the votes yesterday, where he is effectively an incumbent president. If Joe Biden only got 50% in a primary with Marianne Williamson and Dean Phillips, the Dems would be panicking.

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The more he denies it, the higher the figure will be. Trump should really learn to shut his mouth, but his narcissistic ego won't allow him to stop telling lies.

That’s like saying, just let Bubba love you, be quiet and just let it happen. Just idiotic, if the man is innocent and he knows he is innocent, why would he admit to something that he didn’t do? If I know I’m innocent, bring it on and write as many zeros that you want, will never admit to something in order to appease the political partisan hounds. So he definitely shouldn’t be quiet, I wouldn’t.

Someone who can really offer political solutions for the people that can short circuit Trump and capitalize on the general disgust most have about him.

Sadly, the Dems had their chance and they mucked everything up.

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That’s like saying, just let Bubba love you, be quiet and just let it happen

Good and smart point. Trump bring held to account for libeling the woman he raped/sexually assaulted is like Trump being raped. Brilliant analogy.

Just idiotic

Yes. That analogy was.

if the man is innocent and he knows he is innocent,

Lol Donald's grasp on reality is tenuous at best. The court's rules he's liable, so he needs to learn to shut his mouth and atop defaming her.

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Good and smart point. Trump bring held to account for libeling the woman he raped/sexually assaulted is like Trump being raped. Brilliant analogy. 

If even a raped occurred.

Yes. That analogy was.

Wouldn't be a first for the left.

Lol Donald's grasp on reality is tenuous at best.

I feel the same about the people that allow Trump to live rent-free in their heads

The court's rules he's liable, so he needs to learn to shut his mouth and atop defaming her.

Naw, I hope he doesn’t if he believes he’s innocent. Keep talking and just dole out money, but being silent, no.

-15 ( +3 / -18 )

If even a raped occurred.

The court has already ruled he sexually assaulted her. He's again back in court, for defaming her, because he has the impulse control of a toddler.

Wouldn't be a first for the left.

I didn't compare Trump being held liable for defamation of his SA victim to being raped, you did.

Naw, I hope he doesn’t if he believes he’s innocent. Keep talking and just dole out money, but being silent, no.

Who cares what he believes? It's shameful to hope Trump continues to defame people. I hope she sues him again each and every time he opens up his mouth to defame.

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bass4funk

Good and smart point. Trump bring held to account for libeling the woman he raped/sexually assaulted is like Trump being raped. Brilliant analogy. 

If even a raped occurred.

The rape occurred. That has already been established.

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He defamed her again, so he’s going to pay again.

One wonders what level of judgment will convince him to shut his yap?

Lets start out at 30 million. We can go up from there.

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The court has already ruled he sexually assaulted her.

Based on what? DNA?

He's again back in court, for defaming her, because he has the impulse control of a toddler. 

Well, if I were in that situation and I knew I was innocent, I would do the same as well. You want to defame me, I’ll do the same to you.

I didn't compare Trump being held liable for defamation of his SA victim to being raped, you did. 

If even a raped occurred, the left over-reaching again.

Who cares what he believes?

Well, now we are getting somewhere, so in admitting that, why should Trump care? The Dems are throwing everything at this guy, whatever sticks and whatever he thinks or cares about is irrelevant. No wonder he’s so defiant.

It's shameful to hope Trump continues to defame people. I hope she sues him again each and every time he opens up his mouth to defame

I feel the same about Trump, if you know you’re innocent, I would talk and speak out again and again and again, you will not shut me up if I am innocent. Good on him. Now, I want to say, I don’t know what happened, I am not saying he’s telling the truth or that she’s lying, none of us were there, but the left (no surprise) are saying this woman is just speaking the truth without a shadow of a doubt or without any physical evidence. If there is DNA evidence that can back up her allegations, I will hold my tongue, until then, No.

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bass4funk

The more he denies it, the higher the figure will be. Trump should really learn to shut his mouth, but his narcissistic ego won't allow him to stop telling lies.

That’s like saying, just let Bubba love you, be quiet and just let it happen. Just idiotic, if the man is innocent and he knows he is innocent, why would he admit to something that he didn’t do?

He did do it. That has been established.

If I know I’m innocent, bring it on and write as many zeros that you want, will never admit to something in order to appease the political partisan hounds. So he definitely shouldn’t be quiet, I wouldn’t.

He knows that he is guilty, but Trump hasn't admitted to anything in his life. He's such a sore loser. He couldn't even admit that he lost the presidential election, his ego is so fragile.

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Trump wrote that Carroll's rape allegation was an “attempted EXTORTION” involving “fabricated lies and political shenanigans.” 

A possible new cause of action?

The “very stable genius” isn’t a “very fast learner.”

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bass4funk

The court has already ruled he sexually assaulted her.

Based on what? DNA?

Based on the previous trial.

He's again back in court, for defaming her, because he has the impulse control of a toddler. 

Well, if I were in that situation and I knew I was innocent, I would do the same as well. You want to defame me, I’ll do the same to you.

He knows he is guilty, but his fragile ego can't admit it.

Now, I want to say, I don’t know what happened, I am not saying he’s telling the truth or that she’s lying, none of us were there, but the left (no surprise) are saying this woman is just speaking the truth without a shadow of a doubt or without any physical evidence. If there is DNA evidence that can back up her allegations, I will hold my tongue, until then, No.

No need to go into all of this, because it was done at the last trial and established that he raped her. He knows this. So you can hold your tongue in the knowledge that the rape occurred.

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I feel the same about Trump

Your feelings are legally irrelevant.

A jury found in her favor. It’s legal fact and can’t be argued further. By carrying on he defamed her again.

And now he’s going to pay again.

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Based on what? DNA?

Based upon a preponderance of the evidence. The exact same standards everyone sued for defamation is held to.

Well, if I were in that situation and I knew I was innocent, I would do the same as well. You want to defame me, I’ll do the same to you.

lol She's not defaming him. He repeatedly defamed her, and you're hoping he keeps defaming her. Classy.

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The Dems are throwing everything at this guy,

They are? All of them? Who?

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The more he denies it, the higher the figure will be.

Good! If I’m innocent, go for it.

Trump should really learn to shut his mouth, but his narcissistic ego won't allow him to stop telling lies.

If a rape indeed occurred. If it didn’t then he’s not lying.

He did do it. That has been established.

Based on what, DNA?

He knows that he is guilty,

How would you know what he knows or what he thinks?

but Trump hasn't admitted to anything in his life. He's such a sore loser. He couldn't even admit that he lost the presidential election, his ego is so fragile.

Ok, you hate the guy we get it. ROFL

They are? All of them? Who?

Take your pick.

Based upon a preponderance of the evidence. The exact same standards everyone sued for defamation is held to.

Ok, so no physical evidence, just hearsay, I see.

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Based on what? DNA?

MAGA comedy gold.

Yeah DNA, what's up with that?

How does that work?

It is great to have a big megaphone and a cult of followers so every legal finding has to be gone over again in your kangaroo court of public opinion.

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Habba is one step away from contempt of court with Judge Kaplan from the start when she broke courtroom procedures and was admonished by him. Federal court is not like state court. It’s like she’s never been in a federal court before.

Trump never bothered to attend the original trial and is under no obligation to attend this damages portion. Trump lied in the first motion to postpone and got caught. If he can attend a fundraising event on Wednesday night, then fly to Florida to be at the funeral Thursday morning, he can fly back to the court Thursday.

Too much money and effort was made to prepare, if he chose to testify Thursday.

And he is only listed as “possibly” testifying.

The judge was open to move his testimony to next Monday, but Trump won’t testify because this judge will find him in contempt and remove him from the courtroom if he says anything close to the campaign speech he tried to give at the NY fraud penalty hearing.

He can not testify to innocence, that’s decided, or claim “unfairness” by the judge or staff. This judge won’t tolerate it if he doesn’t follow the rules.

Some of his barrage of social media posts last night may find him with another disparagement charge.

He just wants to rage to the cameras afterward. It’s probably sinking in that only 14.4% of Republicans voted in the caucasus and half didn’t want him. Hardly a momentous victory he thinks it is.

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The Dems are throwing everything at this guy,

--They are? All of them? Who?

Take your pick.

OK then. Me. And Jimmy Carter. We're behind this. We're in on the cabal.

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bass4funk

He did do it. That has been established.

Based on what, DNA?

Based on the last trial.

DNA is irrelevant.

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Your feelings are legally irrelevant. 

Ditto

A jury found in her favor. It’s legal fact and can’t be argued further. By carrying on he defamed her again. 

No evidence, so based on dislike of the guy and one single shred of physical evidence they find him guilty, it’s New York, no one is surprised

And now he’s going to pay again.

Good. And I would go right back to doing and saying what I was saying previously, if I were him.

No need to go into all of this,

Then don’t.

He knows this.

He knows what? You have absolutely no idea what he knows or what he doesn’t know.

So you can hold your tongue in the knowledge that the rape occurred.

You can think that if you want to, I don’t, I’m neutral on this, unless there’s physical evidence, it’s his word against her word, not if the jury finds him guilty, that’s what the juries feel, and they are more sympathetic to her and her alleged claims.

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OK then. Me.

You work in DC????

He did do it. That has been established.

Based on zero physical evidence. lol

DNA is irrelevant.

Then we don’t know concretely whether a physical rape occurred or not.

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Based on zero physical evidence.

So?

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Sounds like an innocent man to me. And very, very fit for the presidency.

You mean, these were her words from her book, so that makes it true? Huh? She’s angry that Trump defamed her, but her possibly defaming the former president is acceptable?

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Federal court is not like state court. It’s like she’s never been in a federal court before.

Golly, the general counsel for a Parking Garage has never been in Federal court before?

That sounds like a bad decision on counsel determination.

Golly, it’s almost like he picked her for something other than her legal ability.

Or maybe this is the best bottom of the barrel lawyer that he can get to work for him at any hourly rate?

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And now he’s going to pay again.

Good. And I would go right back to doing and saying what I was saying previously, if I were him.

And go to court and pay again. Not very smart. Again, this is a defamation trial, it is already established that he sexually assaulted her.

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bass4funk

He did do it. That has been established.

Based on zero physical evidence. lol

In the US, you can have a jury of your peers determine if you are guilty based on the evidence. Trump has already had this and they determined that he raped her.

If you were on the jury, bass4funk, you could bring up your doubts, but you weren't and the jury came back with the verdict.

Whatever else, Trump has to abide by the verdict and because he has such a fragile ego he can't accept that he lost big time.

Well, now he will realise that his ego will cost him big time, in millions of dollars.

What and expensive, fragile ego, Trump has.

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Yet another trial with another left judge where it’s already decided before it starts and where Trump is restricted about how he can defend himself.

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He's just making things worse for himself, even if he tries to delay, delay, delay. That guy is definitely ruined. The only person I feel sorry for in his family is Barron. I'm a big believer in that "You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes." He also got his so-called legal team from the bottom of the barrel, too.

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Trump, 77, has continued to maintain that he doesn't know Carroll, that he never met her at the Bergdorf Goodman store in midtown Manhattan in spring 1996 and that Carroll made up her claims to sell her book and for political reasons.

Sure, and yet under oath on the stand he mistook a picture of her for one of his ex-wives, Marla Maples...his little cupcake when married to Ivanka...

Get ready for more mug-shot coffee cups, "It's rigged" T-Shirts, and soon to be worthless EFTs...between his criminal and civil penalties, Trump still wants all your money MAGA-world...

And speaking of books, can't wait to see "The Art of Losing Twice - How to Run Your Mouth and Double Your Legal Liability"....

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Blacklabel

Yet another trial with another left judge where it’s already decided before it starts and where Trump is restricted about how he can defend himself.

Yeah, because they had a whole trial with a jury that determined the facts in this case. So no need to litigate again the fact that he raped her, because it has already been established.

That's how the law works.

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Yet another trial with another left judge where it’s already decided before it starts and where Trump is restricted about how he can defend himself.

You misunderstand. This is a defamation trial to determine how much, if any, he should pay the victim of his sexual assault. It’s not a retrial.

“the trial beginning Tuesday would focus only on how much money, if any, Trump must pay Carroll”

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“I guess you’d consider it part of the campaign,” Trump told reporters last week.

Just as I suspected.

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You mean, these were her words from her book, so that makes it true? Huh? 

Oh dear. No, those were his words direct from his mouth, caught on mic.

Also it has been ruled that they are admissible as evidence and will be heard by the jury during the trial.

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Guilt or innocence is not being decided. Only the penalty from the guilty decision.

That ship has left. What’s wrong with some of you?

I think Habba is a great lawyer for him and should continue as his attorney of record before she faces sanctions and possible removal from the bar. Up until now, she has a clean record - never won a thing,

Never interrupt an opponent while they’re making a mistake.

Trump doesn’t care about the monetary damages, He’s at the trial to be a martyr for his congregation and pass around the collection plate to the cult to pay it off. Nothing will come out of his pocket. It all for TV.

He probably wants another defamation charge to vacuum up more money from the cult and more air time on the news.

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the fact that he raped her,

he was found not liable for that. You know this.

-9 ( +3 / -12 )

It’s to bad he had to miss his MIL’s funeral. Everyone knows how close they were (in age) to each other.

Oh wait. He didn’t have to be in court. It’s a civil proceeding. He made a choice to be there.

One wonders how “Melanie” felt about that?

Was this another “I really don’t care, do U?” moment?

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Trump’s Defense . . .

She wanted it, your honor!

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BlacklabelToday  09:06 am JST

the fact that he raped her,

he was found not liable for that.

Rape is criminal. This was civil.

From the bench, the judge determined that the sexual assault he was found liable for was “the functional equivalent of rape.”

it’s a distinction without a difference.

And by all means point that distinction out to every woman you know.

I’m sure that’ll go well.

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“See, he didn’t ‘rape’ her. He only “sexually assaulted’ her.”

One imagines the reaction from any woman anywhere. Or should I say every woman everywhere?

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From the bench, the judge determined 

too bad it was a jury trial, huh?

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

More courts, more trials, more popularity. Somebody on the left is not that bright.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

Fact: a jury found not liable for rape in this case.

this case and all your indictments aren’t helping Joe win, which is the entire purpose of it all. 68% in Iowa said they don’t even believe Joe was legitimately elected.

so imagine what % believe that Trump has never even met this woman outside of a celebrity photo at a party and this is just the matching plot of an aired tv show.. 90-99%?

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

More courts, more trials, more popularity. Somebody on the left is not that bright.

Somebody should tell 45, turn that frown upside down, stop appealing. It’s actually helping him to lose millions of dollars. All that whining and losing is actually an act, stable genius 4d chess.

Yeah sure.

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Seems clear the only trial that Trump and MAGA-world won't say is "crooked" is one where the jury is composed of 12 overweight old white men, all high-school drop-outs, wearing red MAGA caps, and have "Q" tattooed on their arms...

Prior membership in a white supremacist or Neo-Nazi group preferred...

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From the bench, the judge determined 

too bad it was a jury trial, huh?

Yes, it was. And the jury determined unanimously in nothing flat that he sexually assaulted her.

And then the judge declared what everyone but you seems to instinctively understand: It’s the “functional equivalent of rape.”

But by all means, keep telling all the ladies of the real world distinction.

I’m sure they appreciate having it explained to them by a man. Especially the ones who experienced the same thing themselves.

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And go to court and pay again. Not very smart. Again, this is a defamation trial, it is already established that he sexually assaulted her.

Americans who support Trump swell in their ranks each time a kangaroo court case like this takes place.

After Trump's record breaking show in the Iowa caucus, the Democrats are scrambling to find what they deem is a viable candidate.

-8 ( +0 / -8 )

Don't just elect a president . . .

Elect a convicted criminal!

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*Fact**: a jury found not liable for rape in this case.*

True. They found him liable for sexual assault - “the functional equivalent of rape” and…..

(There is nothing in this next sentence that is off-topic/vulgar or impolite. It was in the court record.

The jury found for sexual assault because it couldn’t be determined whether Trump penetrated her with his fingers or his genitalia.

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Que the comparisons that Trump rages against!

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Americans who support Trump swell in their ranks each time a kangaroo court case like this takes place.

Yeah, not so much once one gets outside the cult.

After Trump's record breaking show in the Iowa caucus, the Democrats are scrambling to find what they deem is a viable candidate.

Participation down from 2016. And for such an “Uber mega dominant lord-king”, 50% of those who participated voted “not Trump”.

Hmmmm

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Yeah, not so much once one gets outside the cult.

Republican voters are a cult as much as Democrat voters are.

50% of those who participated voted “not Trump”.

No, they voted for other candidates. And the more than 50% who voted for Trump contributed to a record-setting outcome. Record setting.

-10 ( +0 / -10 )

Prior membership in a white supremacist or Neo-Nazi group preferred...

None of that nonsensical attack works any more, sorry for your loss.

Team left just totally overdid it and no one listening or cares anymore, indict him 10 more times, sue him 10 more.

you have made him inevitable. Good job!

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

he was found not liable for that. You know this.

Yeah, he only sexually assaulted her. That's DiFfErEnT.

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50% of those who participated voted “not Trump”.

No, they voted for other candidates. 

So, “Not Trump”

Thanks for the confirmation.

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And go to court and pay again. Not very smart. Again, this is a defamation trial, it is already established that he sexually assaulted her.

Americans who support Trump swell in their ranks each time a kangaroo court case like this takes place.

Believe what you have to. He’ll still have to pay millions. As I said, not too smart, which his not too smart supporters have to justify by dismissing liability for sexual assault as ‘kangaroo’.

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Historic win, won by 30 points, previous record was 12. These cases are having ZERO negative voter impact and are even helping.

trump gets DeSantis and Vivek voters next so “not Trump” drops to less than 20% the rest of the way until Nikki quits too after losing her home state by 30.

there is 20% not Biden too, btw. Well when Dems let someone else on the ballot

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

Prior membership in a white supremacist or Neo-Nazi group preferred...

None of that nonsensical attack works any more, sorry for your loss.

I wouldn’t be too sure of that.

you have made him inevitable. Good job

Yes. Inevitably destined for felony convictions.

39% of the GQP wouldn’t vote for a convicted felon.

That might cut into his margin “a bit.”

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He did do it. That has been established.

All those people were with them when it allegedly happened?

In the US, you can have a jury of your peers determine if you are guilty based on the evidence. Trump has already had this and they determined that he raped her.

That doesn’t mean it happened because someone said they did based on hearsay.

If you were on the jury, bass4funk, you could bring up your doubts, but you weren't and the jury came back with the verdict.

Doesn’t mean a verdict was right. The men that killed Emmett Till were also found not guilty according to a jury.

Whatever else, Trump has to abide by the verdict and because he has such a fragile ego he can't accept that he lost big time.

If I knew I was innocent, I wouldn’t either.

Well, now he will realise that his ego will cost him big time, in millions of dollars.

Cool!

What and expensive, fragile ego, Trump has

Good!

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couldn’t be determined whether Trump penetrated her with his fingers or his genitalia.

or not at all.

based on the total lack of any scientific or medical evidence of either of those actually happening outside of the plot of a TV show.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

couldn’t be determined whether Trump penetrated her with his fingers or his genitalia.

or not at all.

Actually it could. Thus the jury determination. Do try to keep up.

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or not at all.

Nope.

based on the total lack of any scientific or medical evidence of either of those actually happening outside of the plot of a TV show.

Yet there was still enough to find Donald liable for SA.

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So, “Not Trump”

Thanks for the confirmation.

Nope. You should look up on Wikipedia what a caucus is, so you understand what is on the ballot.

Trump--over 50%! Record setting. Most ever in GOP history.

Historic day for Trump. Historic setting for America.

-9 ( +0 / -9 )

*Whatever else, Trump has to abide by the verdict and because he has such a fragile ego he can't accept that he lost big time.*

If I knew I was innocent, I wouldn’t either.

And you’d continue to pay as well.

Probably because you don’t understand that in a civil case, you claim “not liable”.

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I am glad that he is finally being held accountable for his bad actions, if nearly 30 years after the fact. I wonder if he will flee to Russia to avoid jail time, in his other court cases.

As for what happened in Iowa yesterday, he got about 56,275 votes, or 51%, in the Republican caucuses, in a Red state with almost 3.2 million residents. Is that the "Big" win that the media keeps talking about?

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Yet I’ve never seen a jury accept an “and/or” claim as proof of something happening. He either punched me or kicked me! Cant prove either but it happened!

we can’t prove anything but she says he did this and/or that. Jury: ok that’s fine, liable!

Then the judge follows up with “well to meeeeee, sexual assault is rape”?

clown show, but it’s helping so please keep it up, got any more of that J6 stuff or muh documents?!

trump already winning GA by +8 thanks to race card Fani!

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Yet there was still enough to find Donald liable for SA.

yeah don’t you find it odd how little was considered “enough”- only in this specific case? That’s what voters see.

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

Trump's polls and fundraising raising just went up again.

Every time they put her face in the news this happens - plus it is free airtime !

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Blacklabel here owning everyone that his man was merely found liable for sexual assault.

bravo. You showed us!

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JJEToday  10:12 am JST

Trump's polls and fundraising raising just went up again.

They better because Biden raised $97 million in the 4th quarter ALONE.

Maybe Trump should do another round of those groovy “Not-at-all copyright violationing” NFTs?

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Then the judge follows up with “well to meeeeee, sexual assault is rape”?

Keep going with this one. It’s a winning argument for sure, lol.

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Yeah by a Trump hating judge and a jury in a Trump hating district.

With zero proof outside of a crazed lady saying it happened and a jury wanting to believe her.

oh sorry, you think this actually happened and isn’t the plot of a Law and Order: SVU TV episode?

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This rape and defamation case won't slow his Mo with his "blue-pill" MAGA followers, but it will strengthen the determination of the "red-pill" voters who can see the wannabe orange "Emperor" in all his awful nakedness to prevent his "Second Coming" and spare the country the fate of suffering four years of "MAGA Redux" under Trump's looney tunes rule.

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yeah don’t you find it odd how little was considered “enough”- only in this specific case? 

No I don't. I think he was held to exactly the same standards as everyone else, you don't like that. Rather than dealing with reality, Trump cultists have created yet another conspiracy.

That’s what voters see.

Amen brother. Being found liable for SA (and defamation) makes me like him even more! lol

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Biden has destroyed middle America with double digit inflation, jacked up gas prices, hiked energy prices, increased the cost of living - rent and grocery prices have skyrocketed 20%. On top of that there are millions and millions of people flooding into the country because he refuses to secure the southern border.

Trump is the antidote to this. These silly trials mean nothing.

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Being found liable for SA (and defamation) makes me like him even more! lol

being falsely and unfairly found such by a rigged and biased judge, jury and system does.

fixed it for ya.

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He boasted about doing this stuff to Billy Bush on tape, Blacklabel. He was also boasting on the same tape about trying to nail another man’s wife. He also boasted about cruising beauty pageant changing rooms, including teen pageants.

guess he was just blowing smoke?

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bass4funk

Whatever else, Trump has to abide by the verdict and because he has such a fragile ego he can't accept that he lost big time.

If I knew I was innocent, I wouldn’t either.

I am sure that he knows he is guilty, but he can't accept it. Trump has never admitted he was wrong or that he lost in his life.

Well it's his millions to burn, but a witness who will testify is the same one who got Rudi liable for ~ $150 million. So if Trump wants to throw away money, who am I to disagree.

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a crazed lady

lol

Trump has a history of boasting about assaulting women. It's on tape.

Ironically, when I quoted what Trump himself said, it is deleted for being "vulgar/offensive".

A vulgar/offensive man cheered on by millions of cultists. Wow.

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clown show, but it’s helping so please keep it up, got any more of that J6 stuff or muh documents?!

How about Eastman admitting to a fellow Repub that his "fake electors" scheme "violated federal statute" and that he told Trump that...who went ahead anyway...

Or maybe testimony from Powell, Ellis, and Cheesboro that Trump approved a plan to break in to a Georgia polling office to tamper with voting machines...

Or how about Trump's lawyer telling him that violating the subpoena to turn in the classified "was illegal"...and testimony from his aide that he was told to re-hide that classified then destroy the tape showing that...

Jack Smith and Fani Willis have lots more...your Orange Apostle is going to jail - it's "inevitable"....

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He boasted about doing this stuff to Billy Bush on tape,

and all that was claimed as locker room talk and resolved by the voters in 2016 when they elected him President anyway.

Got anything else to help elect him in 2024? This crazy lady and Fani are helping. Are Stormy and Avenatti available to help?

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What sort of a twisted person prevents someone from attending their mother-in-law's funeral...

This judge should hang his head in shame. Sick stuff.

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being falsely and unfairly found such by a rigged and biased judge, jury and system does.

blah, blah...If Trump hasn't been charged, then it means he didn't commit a crime. If Trump is charged, then the charges are nonsense and he'll win his case. When he loses his case, it means the courts were all unfair. We've heard this nonsense before, and it just makes rightists look pathetic and delusional. You've no proof the courts were rigged and biased. None.

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What sort of a twisted person prevents someone from attending their mother-in-law's funeral...

What sort of twisted person plans a campaign event for the same not as his MIL's funeral?

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Blacklabel

Yeah by a Trump hating judge and a jury in a Trump hating district.

Judges are impartial, so irrelevant.

With zero proof outside of a crazed lady saying it happened and a jury wanting to believe her.

The proof was deemed sufficient by a jury, that's all that matters. Trump was given a fair trial, so he can't complain.

oh sorry, you think this actually happened and isn’t the plot of a Law and Order: SVU TV episode?

Oh, sorry, you think that matters? It doesn't. Trump was found liable and has to pay, the only question is how much. The more he mouths off, the more he pays.

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JJE

What sort of a twisted person prevents someone from attending their mother-in-law's funeral...

This judge should hang his head in shame. Sick stuff.

He doesn't have to attend the trial, so wrong. He can go to the funeral after all.

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I am sure that he knows he is guilty,

You would have no idea, none.

but he can't accept it. Trump has never admitted he was wrong or that he lost in his life.

Ok, that is your imaginary mental interpretation on how you personally think Trump feels.

Well it's his millions to burn, but a witness who will testify is the same one who got Rudi liable for ~ $150 million. So if Trump wants to throw away money, who am I to disagree.

Exactly. Fight on, I would.

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You've no proof the courts were rigged and biased. None.

the fact that he was still found liable with zero evidence of this even happening.

No video, communications, no witnesses. mo proof they even met that day or even proof of what day or month it even was:

comparison: Alec Baldwin shot and killed sometime on video, there is clear proof the person is in fact dead. not liable.

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Watch the "judges are impartial" rhetoric shift once the supreme court starts reversing things.

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Yeah by a Trump hating judge and a jury in a Trump hating district.

All of them? In his suits to challenge the election, all the judges; state and federal, circuit, appeals and SCOTUS, they’ve all been Trump-hating judges like this one, eh?

RIIIIIIIGHT.

OR……

It’s a judge correctly interpreting civil code and Emperor Tiny-fingers (and his cult) are outraged that he’s being held to account.

Gee, which narrative to find more credible…..

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Trump has a history of boasting about assaulting women. It's on tape.

Ahh, you’re talking about the Billy Bush tapes where he joked about women, you mean, typical guy talk?

A vulgar/offensive man cheered on by millions of cultists. Wow.

He wouldn’t be the first President to be cheered for being allegedly offensive or vulgar. We all have our opinions and thoughts.

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the fact that he was still found liable with zero evidence of this even happening.

There wasn't 0 evidence. This is again pure nonsense. Just pathetic.

No video, communications, no witnesses. mo proof they even met that day or even proof of what day or month it even was

Nonsense. Here's a list of the witnesses:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/05/trump-rape-trial-witness-tracker-00095179

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What sort of a twisted person prevents someone from attending their mother-in-law's funeral.

He CHOSE to be there. Nobody could force him to attend a civil proceeding. That’s why he ran away during the first defamation suit.

What’s that say about him?

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JJE

Watch the "judges are impartial" rhetoric shift once the supreme court starts reversing things.

Agreed, Thomas and Alito have never been impartial. So there are some exceptions. Add Judge Cannon to that.

However, there is no evidence that any of these judges in Trump's cases (apart from Judge Cannon) have been biased.

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Blacklabel

You've no proof the courts were rigged and biased. None.

the fact that he was still found liable with zero evidence of this even happening.

That's not evidence that the courts were rigged and biased, it's just evidence that you didn't like their verdict.

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Nothing you posted matters, Lincolnman.

Every single allegation ever made against 45 and his enablers is a lie. Every last one. It’s all election interference funded by Soros and the Commies. The justice system is entirely corrupt and is only used against conservatives.

Cult? Where? There’s no cult around here!

outside of A) coming out as LGBTQ B) converting to Islam or C) turning on Israel there is literally nothing the man can do that would break his hold on his loyal flock.

we see it here daily.

he literally argues that he can kill his domestic opposition if his people control congress and these non-cultists don’t care.

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bass4funk

I am sure that he knows he is guilty,

You would have no idea, none.

Neither would you. None.

but he can't accept it. Trump has never admitted he was wrong or that he lost in his life.

Ok, that is your imaginary mental interpretation on how you personally think Trump feels.

No, it's empirically true. If you want to prove me wrong, show me when he admitted he was wrong or lost.

Well it's his millions to burn, but a witness who will testify is the same one who got Rudi liable for ~ $150 million. So if Trump wants to throw away money, who am I to disagree.

Exactly. Fight on, I would.

Expensive ego.

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Yeah by a Trump hating judge and a jury in a Trump hating district.

It’s NY where the sexual assault took place. No, you can’t move the trial to Iowa. That’s not how it works.

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Nothing you posted matters, Lincolnman.

Every single allegation ever made against 45 and his enablers is a lie. Every last one. It’s all election interference funded by Soros and the Commies. The justice system is entirely corrupt and is only used against conservatives.

Cult? Where? There’s no cult around here!

outside of A) coming out as LGBTQ B) converting to Islam or C) turning on Israel there is literally nothing the man can do that would break his hold on his loyal flock.

we see it here daily.

Agree - but it's always fun highlighting these facts and then watching our MAGA-friends dodge and head-fake around them...

It puts their hypocrisy and ludicrousness on full display...

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Yeah by a Trump hating judge and a jury in a Trump hating district.

It’s NY where the sexual assault took place. No, you can’t move the trial to Iowa. That’s not how it works.

If one doesn’t want to face a reckoning in a Blue district, one should probably not rape, sorry “sexually assault” in a Blue district.

Better yet, don’t rape (damn it! Did it again!) err “sexually assault” at all!

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Better yet, don’t rape (damn it! Did it again!) err “sexually assault” at all!

How does this impact being falsely accused?

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From the well-known self-help advice “when you hit rock-bottom, bring in drilling equipment and explosives.”

yet he was elected by voters after all that. And is winning the nomination and beating Biden in the general after all this.

your plans to interfere in the election are failing, epically.

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From the well-known self-help advice “when you hit rock-bottom, bring in drilling equipment and explosives.”

yet he was elected by voters after all that. And is winning the nomination and beating Biden in the general after all this.

I was talking about you. Do try to keep up.

your plans to interfere in the election are failing, epically.

By voting and holding him civilly and criminally liable.

That’s not election interference.

“I just want to find 11,780 votes” ON TAPE, on the other hand…..

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I am sure that he knows he is guilty,

You don’t know that.

Neither would you. None.

I never implied that I did.

but he can't accept it. Trump has never admitted he was wrong or that he lost in his life.

He can admit or not admit to whatever he believes.

No, it's empirically true.

Where is the evidence, show me and I’ll bite my tongue and apologize to you

Expensive ego.

Yup!

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Better yet, don’t rape (damn it! Did it again!) err “sexually assault” at all!

How does this impact being falsely accused?

Since according to a unanimous verdict of the jury, he wasn’t, it doesn’t.

It only affects the p-grabber in Chief in a case of defamation arising from “the functional equivalent of rape.”

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The left sure is excited about all this somehow. the “witness” list has zero people who were actually there on that day. Plus not even the “victim” can identify what day or month it even supposedly happened.

All noise- not changing a single vote though.

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