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© Thomson Reuters 2023.Ex-Trump lawyer appears before grand jury as U.S. probes swirl
By Sarah N. Lynch WASHINGTON©2023 GPlusMedia Inc.
54 Comments
Superlib
Judging by the wild nature and sheer number of Trump posts on social media, he ain't happy.
And remember.....no one has any insider information on any if these cases. We are all equal and no one is special.
lincolnman
And there you have it - clear obstruction of justice...
The question now is, did Trump collude with his lawyers to obstruct or did he lie to them?
My guess is every lawyer who values his law license and doesn't want a bunk next to Weisselberg testified under oath that Trump lied to each of them...that means multiple witnesses to his crimes...
The Stormy payoff case is peanuts compared to this one...
Bye-Don...
bass4funk
If I had a corrupt politicians chasing me non-stop for 7 years when I did nothing, time and time again and again, who wouldn’t be ticked off. But in the end, the left just continue help this man.
Well, and on that point Democrats are finding this out and lately they don’t seem happy at any congressional hearings. But yes, regardless who’s being investigated, deal with it and don’t complain, no matter which political side of the fence you sit.
Cards fan
Investigators wouldn't be after him if he weren't a crook. His own lawyer went to jail for paying Stormy Daniels, and he's on tape talking about the payment. He knew. He was in on it. He broke the law.
Totally. This is the same thing you folks said about the impeachment helping Trump when reelection. How'd that work out? Get better politicians.
bass4funk
There are a lot of crooks on the left, a lot and every single one is being ignored.
From his own money and later got reimbursed and now we have a problem and this is why no prosecutor wanted to get involved with this.
Yes, he didn’t want his wife to find out because his son was just born, embarrassing? Yes, without a doubt, where is the crime when he tried to hide the affair from his wife? Again, the prosecutors are hitting a brick wall.
Well, he has gotten more popular and support, this is very true.
The left should definitely heed your words.
Blacklabel
Isnt is odd that every judge rules against Trump in every case even forcing all this attorneys to testify and they still can’t “get him”?
wallace
Even judges appointed by TRump.
Cards fan
If this is true, they should be prosecuted too. This isn't exculpatory. You don't get to do crimes because other people are too.
No, he committed a crime. Michael Cohen went to jail for it. If no prosecutor wanted to get involved with "this" as you say, then Cohen wouldn't have gone to jail.
Yes, he tried to pay off Stormy Daniels nearly a decade after the affair to avoid embarrassing his wife. It was just a coincidence it happened a decade after the affair and he happened to be running for president. Something Trump is very famous for is not wanting to embarrass people, totally.
And yet not popular enough to win an election. His opponent actually got more votes than any other president in history, so yeah, it didn't work out the way rightists wanted it to.
lincolnman
Says all of Trump's criminal investigations are unfair and Trump is justified in whining...
In next sentence says if you're being investigated you should "deal with it and don't complain"...
How to contradict yourself in two easy steps...
Welcome to MAGA-world...
Superlib
Trump denies having the affair. Are you saying he's lying?
The investigations are ongoing. Nothing has been decided yet.
And no, not every judge is out to get him. That's just paranoia.
Blacklabel
The same judge has ruled against him for attorney client privilege and now executive privilege.
those are actual legal protections for everyone else but Trump.
the appeals court? All Democrats, 1 Clinton and 2 Biden.
wallace
Trump lied about the amount of taxes he paid. He said he paid millions when he did not.
Superlib
Trump's attorneys might be implicated in committing a crime, which pierces the attorney-client privilege. That was the basis for the decision. Everyone else but Trump isn't in that situation. The exact opposite, really.
This person is trying to mislead the public or is ignorant.
plasticmonkey
That’s not a crime. But misreporting expenses during an election campaign is.
I suggest you study the law and the known facts, let the trial run its course (if it comes to that), and stop whining about some fantasy liberal conspiracy.
I would have no problem if Biden and bogeyman Hunter were to face criminal charges (if that ever were to happen). And if Trump is found not guilty you won’t hear me whining about the Mercers or the Uileins. Why can’t MAGA people just respect the law and the judiciary? Your dedication to Trump is really dumbfounding.
lincolnman
Was going to make that same point - you beat me to it...
The Trump supporters here are always consistent; "Trump never lies"....though they prevaricate when asked if Trump's accusations of DeSantis being a pedo are true or not...
But this poster has already been convinced Trump is lying when he denies the affair...and thinks its "embarrassing"....
That it is - but when you direct your lawyer to issue a payoff, then reimburse that lawyer with funds from your campaign donations, that's a crime.
But as we've said, this case is minor compared to the obstruction of justice case highlighted in this article...
However, it sure shows what a disgusting sleazeball Trump is sleeping with a porn star while his third wife is at home with their 10 month old child...
bass4funk
Well, it would be nice if the left thought like that. Never give up hope.
A misdemeanor, now this guy wants to see if he can tie it to a campaign contribution charge thereby upgrading it to a felony charge. How’s that going so far?
Michael Cohen is the reason why this case will go nowhere, he perjured himself 7 times in front of congress, so his credibility is shot and if Briggs wants to use him, Trump wins again.
Again, good luck chasing after a case that’s past it’s stature of limitations.
I disagree.
ROFL!
Blacklabel
Anyone’s attorney might be.
they never say what the expected crime is just use “might be” to make every lawyer and every White House aide testify.
still can’t “get him”.
bet we see Biden getting all the executive and client attorney privileges plus extra.
bass4funk
He can have his opinions who cares?
I really could care less what he does in his private life, as long as he doesn’t do it while in office like another former president, then whatever.
What crime?
“Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed Mr. Cohen for the payment directly or indirectly,” Cohen lawyer Stephen Ryan wrote on Feb. 8, 2018.
Well, there goes the case.
Take a number, you must hate a lot on the left including this administration as well then.
Blacklabel
What is going to be super funny is when Trump 47 waives Biden’s executive privilege like Biden did to him already.
Bad precedent set by Biden as usual.
Superlib
How do you know this? Are you special or something?
Again, you don't know what Bragg has or doesn't have.
Superlib
What are you talking about, black? The attorney said he handed over all the docs when in fact more docs were found. They are looking to see if the attorney knew this. This is nothing new or recently discovered. Again, you're either misleading people or ignorant to the facts.
This simply is not the case. No one is going after "every lawyer and every White House aide." So many bombastic and emotional outbursts on your side tonight. What's up?
bass4funk
Just going by Cohen’s statement to the Grand jury, nothing more.
I know that he really doesn’t have anything on Trump. Either this guy hates his career profession or he’s out for personal blood. What does Soros have over these corrupt people, geez!
lincolnman
Just based on the comments from our normal Trump supporters here, Trump seems to be in a clear downfall... Yesterday they posted that;
Trump's accusations of DeSantis being a groomer are "30 year old debunked crap" - their Ultra MAGA King spreading outright lies.
Trump lied when he said DeSantis' COVID response was bungled badly.
They openly admit that "no one listens to Trump".
Now today they acknowledge Trump is lying about his affair with Stormy....
Looks like the light bulb is finally coming on...
Too bad the rest of his supporters continue to fall for the lies and con-job...
https://nypost.com/2023/03/22/trumps-campaign-reportedly-raked-in-1-5-m-since-his-claims-of-arrest/
Cards fan
Har har that'd be super funny, it's not going to happen.
Blacklabel
I said none of that.
i said there’s a letter to the election committee proving Cohen is now lying.
there’s a sighed letter from Stormy saying no affair and no payment.
Case is ruined so now jump back to this other nonsense case.
I’m more interested in what’s in the 8 boxes of Biden docs from Boston.
bass4funk
So arrest him already! Oh, wait, no crimes were committed just the usual lib let’s look for more rabbit holes, he lied!!! Like he’s the only person to have done so, if you believe that then I can sell you a renewable fruitcake. Lol
Superlib
The public doesn't have access to that testimony. How did you get it? You have someone on the inside?
No, you don't. You don't know what he has or doesn't have. I have no idea why you keep arguing this point. No one knows yet, not even you, not even if you really, really, really want your opinions to be true. It doesn't mean you're special. You're just like the rest of the public.
Blacklabel
For all these “obvious” crimes there seems to be a serious lack of indictments.
It’s not due to lack of trying though.
Superlib
Did you ever find that article from NBC that Trump was going to be arrested last Tuesday? That is something you said, but based on this thread you guys are getting pretty desperate.
Blacklabel
It said “next week” which includes Tuesday.
didn’t happen did it? So DA lied?
Superlib
The investigations are still ongoing. He might get indicted for all of them or none of them. In the case of Georgia we heard the phone call and can form our own opinions based on that.
Superlib
You aren't talking about this article, are you? It came out the day before Trump went on Truth Social.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/law-enforcement-agencies-are-prepping-possible-trump-indictment-early-rcna75493
The article is about security, and it says that an indictments could come as early as next week, and further goes on to say, "possible indictment" meaning they didn't have any knowledge of whether it would happen or not.
You're either ignorant or misleading people again.
Blacklabel
Oh so the whole thing was never going to happen “next week” as the media reported?
then why were NYC cops recalled and barricades set up? and why did all of you prematurely celebrate the arrest all last week and this week up until Tuesday when it didn’t happen?
thats a fail. Almost got him!
UChosePoorly
Superlib - thanks for finding that article. It definitely says "as early as next week":
Blacklabel
i posted the exact same article last week. What did he “find”?
UChosePoorly
Blacklabel - That article just reports on what law enforcement and security agents are preparing for. Do you have anything prior to Trump's Truth Social post that says an arrest was going to happen this week? I still haven't seen anything like that. Do you have a link?
Superlib
I'm sorry but you're really struggling to understand the difference between, "as early as next week" and, "Tuesday." Your comments are clearly defining the situation with the latter.
Just as the article reads. They were preparing for violence due to a possible indictment that could come as early as next week.
Because we listened to Trump. You said you got your info from NBC before Trump which was obviously misleading if that's the article you were talking about.
Was this is article you read and made your statements based on?
bass4funk
We already went through this, calm down.
Scroll up.
Relax, he doesn’t have anything on Trump, if he did, he would have been arrested already, we all know that and to think otherwise is just not dealing with reality. So, the guy has nothing and now for the sake of saving the dwindling credibility he has left, he needs to find an off-ramp and fast while saving face, so let’s see what he will try and attempt next week, should be good.
Of course not! Only the left thinks they’re special.
I wish the left would listen to what you just said, I’m 100% in agreement on that one!
Blacklabel
If so then Joe Biden could be arrested “as early as Monday” would also be true then. Even if he isn’t actually arrested until 2028 or even at all.
Lame. You got caught in premature celebration and now trying to pretend you knew it wasn’t going to happen on Tuesday.
now it’s likely never happening. This the daily article now about a different case and your hopes and dreams that this will be one to “get him”.
spoiler alert: this case worse than the Bragg one. cause Biden and Pence will need to be arrested too for this “crime”. Not gonna happen.
UChosePoorly
Blacklabel - you were making it sound like someone at Bragg's office leaked a definite arrest date (Tuesday) to NBC, but that doesn't look like what had happened. Is there another pre-Tuesday article perhaps that would support your assertion?
lincolnman
Now you want to arrest him for lying? OK, if you say so...
It was you who said yesterday that Trump's accusations against DeSantis is "30 year old debunked crap"...
It was you yesterday that said "no one is listening to Trump"....
And it was you today that said that Trump was lying when he denied the Stormy affair...
Keep slamming him...it's all deserved....ROFL...
Superlib
It went something like this:
NBC: Security is prepping for a possible indictment against Trump, which could happen as early as next week.
Trump: I will be arrested on Tuesday.
(Tuesday comes and goes)
Black: See? The media and DA lied to you.
bass4funk
No, they just what the lefts doing to him, but it’s helping. Thank you Democrats.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/why-braggs-case-against-trump-is-falling-apart/
And this from a Democrat Hillary supporter old school Democrat.
UChosePoorly
The NBC article was just reporting on law enforcement activities that were taking place, and providing context as to why those activities were occurring. I suppose they could have left off "as early as next week", but I know that journalists typically try to answer the 5 W's to the extent that facts are known, which sometimes they are not, so that is why they qualified their language with "as early as next week".
lincolnman
So why are they falling for, in your words; "debunked crap"? Or the lie which you've admitted about not having the affair with Stormy?
Why are they helping if in your words; "no one is listening to Trump"?
Moderator
Readers, this thread will be closed for discussion for about two hours.
Bob Fosse
That sentence is already funny in itself. Keep up the good humor, you’ll need it.
Superlib
Does half your family work for the NY DA? Is that how you have so much insider information?
RKL
This type of witch hunt wouldn't be unusual in North Korea or China.
Kurumazaka2.1
oh he’s far too edgy to be ignorant.
guess it’s the “or”
Blacklabel
What is ignorant is to not recognize that someone in the DA office or staff would not be telling Trump the exact day of the “next week” planned arrest.
bass4funk
No, but they do attention to what liberal non-partisan political law professors have to say.
Yeah, they cut threw all the BS.
Superlib
Because that's what's required to keep your narrative intact.
Kurumazaka2.1
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/us/politics/trump-bragg-indictment-protests.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
misleading is pretending there is “nothing to see here.”