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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2022.Taliban sign deal for Russian oil products, gas and wheat
By Mohammad Yunus Yawar and Charlotte Greenfield KABUL©2025 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Sven Asai
See? Nothing is even near green ideology elsewhere, the picture shows you the global reality, full 100% fossils, in the houses, on the roads and of course in the orders from the Russians. And you tell me something with solar panels or replacing StaBu plastic straws by paper ones or anything else containing a climate saving carbon free future. Return to the facts, not to your phantasy Ideals.
Nemo
The Taliban can pay in opioids and the Russians can use them on their mutilated suffering soldiers and drug addled media stars.
PTownsend
Given the reports of hunger in Afghanistan, it's good to see some people there might be able to get some grain. It will be interesting to see which ones actually receive the wheat.
Blacklabel
or they can pay with all those US weapons that the Biden administration abandoned in Afghanistan.
Fighto!
Another rogue regime happy to buy from fascist Russia.
Another regime for Mini-me supporters to support. They have zero shame.
Blacklabel
odd way to admit some of us were right that it was NOT a good idea to abandon billions of dollars of serviceable high tech weapons in Afghanistan.
cause ya know, the Taliban might get them and then trade them to some bad people who might use them against good people.
Sound familiar now?
ClippetyClop
Are there people saying that it was a good idea?
painkiller
In essence, the US provided the Taliban with oil products, gas, and wheat, while also funneling money to Russia.
Ego Sum Lux Mundi
That's so cool. The Afghans can pay for it with some of the billions of dollars' worth of military equipment the Americans left behind in their panicked scramble to withdraw last year.
WA4TKG
Doesn’t THAT figure
PTownsend
Is your point that Trump and Pompeo should not have dealt directly with the Taliban, and left Biden to clean up after their mess. Trump's stench lingers on everything he came near. https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-taliban-doha-e6f48507848aef2ee849154604aa11be
wallace
How will they pay? They claimed to have no money. Most of the weapons left were damaged and broken.
Blacklabel
yes, some of you were hugely supportive of the Biden withdrawal and had no criticisms whatsoever of any of it. Including leaving the weapons behind.
Blacklabel
no that was definitely NOT my point. At all. not even close.
Who was in charge when the withdrawal was executed and who chose to leave behind the weapons?
wasnt Trump.
JeffLee
@Blacklabel
Since you're so obsessed on this issue, let me explain: The agreement under which the weapons were abandoned was made by the Trump administration, aka, the Doha Agreement, in early 2020. Trump wanted it implemented in May, but Biden extended it to Aug.
So the question you should be asking is why did the Trump people fail to make any provisions regarding the de-commissioning the weapons.
Most Taliban use Eastern Bloc weapons, anyway. the advanced US weapons are pretty useless by themselves: an army needs the eco-system of parts, ammo, and servicing by trained personnel. Good luck getting those amid the sanctions. LOL. You're definitely barking up the wrong tree.
Nemo
It was totally Trump. He “negotiated” (if that word can be used for dropping one’s pants and bending over) the deal. He set the time line. He did nothing, not a damn thing to prepare for it. Then he walked away (which was probably for the best given how badly he screws up everything he touches.)
So Joe came in and made the best of a bad deal. Nobody, especially Cheeto-Jesus saw the collapse coming. And like everything else in his life, he wasn’t around when the bill came.
It was in artful at best, but short of reneging and going into direct conflict, which the country had no stomach for, it was the least worst option.
Kaerimashita
If it alleviates some of the suffering of the Afghan in the hills, then good for them.
Nemo
Supports the sociopath who negotiated the crap deal….
Has no part in its implementation.
Complains about the outcome while virtually cheering on the failure of his own nation.
Can’t get much Trumpier (or more disingenuous) than that.
ClippetyClop
Ah, the mind of a hyperpartisan in full effect is a joy to behold!
Who precisely are 'some of you"?
I don't recall anyone saying it was a Good Idea to leave weapons behind. I don't recall anyone having 'no criticisms whatsoever of any of it.' But then again I don't have your supreme strawman skills.
Blacklabel
we agreed to leave all the US weapons there? there was an agreement to abandon our weapons?
No we did not. Biden just left them do to ineffective planning of the chaotic withdrawal.
He also left Afghanis, Americans and even pets. Was that in the "agreement" too?
Blacklabel
see this. not one criticism of Biden whatsoever. You dont have to "recall" its here today.
-and-
do you see any criticisms whatsoever?
i sure dont. just excuses for good old Joe- just doin the best he can.
So now the Taliban has all these weapons they shouldnt have to trade to Russia.
Blacklabel
7 billion dollars worth of usable (and tradeable) weapons.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/afghan-weapons-left-behind/index.html
"It included aircraft, air-to-ground munitions, military vehicles, weapons, communications equipment and other materials, according to the DoD report."
woof woof, this is the right tree after all.
Mark
Two desperate nations cozying to each others for the time being.
JTC
What, pray, will the Taliban pay the Russian's with ?
wtfjapan
yes, some of you were hugely supportive of the Biden withdrawal and had no criticisms whatsoever of any of it.
a peace deal Trump started, with the release of 5000 taliban prisoners' Biden just finished what Trump failed to do.
kaimycahl
LOL Russia's Putin is desperate and will sign a deal with the devil! Wait he is the devil the man has sold his soul!
Axel
Japan has also quietly started paying Russia for fish and seafood products again. Too late to stop prices at my favorite kaiten sushi restaurant going up.
Peter14
One pariah state dealing with another more backwards pariah state will in no way ease the Taliban's isolation in the international community. Russia offers discounts in order to sell everything these days because they are shunned by friend and foe alike. A true friend would pay normal full price but their so called friends are the first to demand discounts to continue to do business.
The Taliban is a lost male tribe unable to function in the modern world with their barbaric religious views holding Afghanistan back. They will remain isolated, perhaps for hundreds of years, leaving them all stranded in time as the world continues to evolve. They could end up like the primitive jungle peoples of the Amazon, with no contact with the outside world, and view modern civilizations as magic with the seeming miracles they can preform. It wont be quite that bad but it may as well be.
Eric
The last time Russia had so many friends around the world was 1944~45.
There is something fundamentally wrong with the brains of so many Anglo-Americans. No matter how many facts are presented to them, they can't comprehend 'the world' is much more than North America, Western Europe and Russia.
ian
Is there anything that came out of it?
Strangerland
Russia's only friends are terrorists. This war is working well for Russians, just ask the horde of Russian men escaping the country and surrendering to Ukraine.
painkiller
BlacklabelSep. 28 06:24 pm JST
A lot of US money for the Taliban to be playing with, and exchanging with Russia.
Trump would not have left behind all that equipment.
What an incredible waste that comes back to bite the US.
Nongaco
Is my memory gone ?
i though Russian army lost a lot of their soldiers during the war against Talibans
Are they going to leave their graves to protest ?
Strangerland
Putin apparently. Not just a nutter, a loser in both the literal and figurative sense.
SaikoPhysco
Damn... Russia is desperate. The Taliban banned the growing of the poppy plant but that was just a way for them to control the crop. You can probably bet the dollar proceeds from the sale of drugs will be going to Russia in exchange for this gas and wheat. Interestingly... much of the drugs the Taliban controls probably will be sold to Russian citizens. Yeah.... Russia is desperate.
JeffLee
@Blacklabel
Thanks, the article you posted supports my counterpoint and nicely undermines your original post. LOL.
From your article:
Good luck getting that with the sanctions.
Just another false narrative spread by the anti-West, anti-Dems, pro-Putin gang. Your desperation is really showing now.
ian
Don't know what the point of contention was but that article confirms that there's 7billion worth of weapons and equipment separate from the supposedly useless ones left behind by the US