Trump to ask Congress for $8.6 billion for border wall

That's a helluva lot of money taxpayers are being asked to provide for something which Mexico is meant to pay.

Trump going to shutdown the government again?

Kabuki. Trump cares not about the wall per say; he is simply stringing along his followers. And many are gullible enough to be strung along.

And many are gullible enough to be strung along.

Which will be seeing here shortly.

Mr. Donald J. Trump is a one trick pony ... “the wall, the wall, the wall”. And it continues to be a distraction from the real problems the country faces.

What's that definition of insanity they always through around? About trying the same thing and expecting different outcomes? And does this mean the national emergency isn't an emergency?

*shut down

Trump was right. America will never be socialist, but it will be a Trump dictatorship if SCOTUS doesn't reject his national emergency.

Of course congress won't give him the newly proposed additional 8.6 billion dollars. So he is either gonna shut the government down again, or declare a separate emergency. Worst president ever, nothing even resembling leadership or strength.

Ye gods, the man is off the rails. Hopefully he'll be surrounded by four walls sooner or later.

Why not invest in education, infrastructure, health care... a non visionary president.

Every lie he makes, every bribe he takes, every scam he fakes .... we'll be watching him ....

the 2020 election will decide this issue once and for all.

Will have to elect Trump AGAIN just to prove that the USA doesnt want socialism, open borders and identity politics. I thought this was settled in the 2016 election, but will just have to do it again.

I supposed you didnt see that 2000 immigrants were quarantined because they have the mumps.

Add Infectious diseases to the list of things a wall would prevent from entering the USA.

The wall is like a dog chasing a car, if he did get the money I don't think he'd even know how to properly use it to secure the border.

the 2020 election will decide this issue once and for all.

Will have to elect Trump AGAIN just to prove that the USA doesnt want socialism, open borders and identity politics. I thought this was settled in the 2016 election, but will just have to do it again.

Its funny, cause Trump won't win in 2020. You've got lots of hope though.

Why not invest in education, infrastructure, health care... 

For all the illegals, right?

Every lie he makes, every bribe he takes

Can you give us a list of the bribes he's taken?

Amazing how we have tens of billions to give to other countries but not $10 billion to secure our own border.

Same thing I was told in 2016, that he wouldnt win. Yet here we are, winning.

Will have to elect Trump AGAIN just to prove that the USA doesnt want socialism

Correction, America is afraid of some demon that the right had convinced them will destroy America, but doesn't actually resemble Socialism in any way or reality. America is already Socialist in the real sense of the world. This is the problem with you guys making up new meanings for words, it then becomes difficult to deal with the topic, since you are using the word as a meaning that doesn't actually exist, but we expect that you are using the word as it means. So we repeat back at you using the word as it actually means, but you guys hear some demon word like Valdemort and cover your ears in fear.

We have Sri Lankans even trying to come through the US/Mexico border and then filing lawsuits. Thats how porous the border is, that a guy from Sri Lanka figures the best path into the USA is through Mexico.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/03/07/us/politics/ap-us-immigration-asylum.html

For all the illegals, right?

This is where you throw out the American people. Your logic is that we can't do anything anymore because illegal immigrants will benefit from it. How progressive...not

Can you give us a list of the bribes he's taken?

Can give a pretty long list of bribes he's given, lies made, and crimes he's committed.

Amazing how we have tens of billions to give to other countries but not $10 billion to secure our own border.

We have money to secure our border, just no money for a silly prop.

In 2016, the people figured he was sleazy, but hoped he would do something good.

In 2020, they know he is sleazy, and that he did lots that was bad.

In 2016, he barely won the electoral college, and lost the popular vote.

In 2020, all moderates that voted with him in 2016 are most definitely not going to vote for him. Can he pick up the electoral college again?

I doubt it.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Saturday called capitalism "irredeemable."

We are a capitalist society. Is capitalism "deplorable" too? Its not a demon, its not made up, its real. These people really want to eliminate our way of life and what made our country great. The USA is not, and will not, be a socialist country.

I like how when asked to provide a list of bribes he has taken, you add 2 more things. Just start with the bribes list, please.

Can give a pretty long list of bribes he's given, lies made, and crimes he's committed.

barely? 304-227 is barely, huh? You guys really need to work on skill in mathematics.

barely won the electoral college,

The USA is not, and will not, be a socialist country.

Socialism vs. fascism, which side will win...mine or yours?

We have money to secure our border, just no money for a silly prop.

Our border patrol says a physical barrier is crucial for them to do their job. I'll take their word and common sense over yours.

In 2016, he barely won the electoral college, and lost the popular vote.

Hey, California is what it is. Nutty. Look who they keep re-electing - Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff

Can he pick up the electoral college again?

It's going to be a landslide, he's not only gonna hold every state he won in 2016, he's gonna pick up several more states. California will still be blue for 2020, that's gonna take a decade or more to turn back to red, lol...

Oh, and he's gonna win the popular vote even including nutty California.

Democracy and capitalism will win, as it always does.

Same thing I was told in 2016, that he wouldnt win. Yet here we are, winning.

Winning what?

I like how when asked to provide a list of bribes he has taken, you add 2 more things. Just start with the bribes list, please.

I'm sure you are smart enough to use google. I don't need to do it for you.

barely? 304-227 is barely, huh? 

Not winning the popular vote but winning the electoral college is ‘barely’.

barely? 304-227 is barely, huh?

He almost didn't need Texas. If we can get the damn wall built we can keep Texas red for 2020.

When I said he will hold every state he won in 2016 that's assuming we don't have have tens of thousands more illegals to vote Democrat. Cruz barely won, lol...

Our border patrol says a physical barrier is crucial for them to do their job. I'll take their word and common sense over yours.

Actually, official report from the NBP

Walls and fences are temporary solutions that focus on the symptom (illegal immigration) rather than the problem (employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens).

Walls and fences are only a speed bump. People who want to come to the United States to obtain employment will continue to go over, under, and around the walls and fences that are constructed.

Walls and fences will undoubtedly result in an increase in fraudulent documents and smuggling through the Ports of Entry.

Walls and fences do not solve the issue of people entering the country legally and staying beyond the date they are required to leave the country, a problem which will undoubtedly increase as more walls and fences are constructed.

The NBPC position regarding walls and fences is not due to a concern of losing our jobs if fences and walls are built. On the contrary, the NBPC realizes that walls and fences require just as much manpower to protect them. Border Patrol Agents witness what happens to walls and fences when there are not enough Border Patrol agents to protect them.

They do not think the wall will solve the problem.

It's going to be a landslide, he's not only gonna hold every state he won in 2016, he's gonna pick up several more states. California will still be blue for 2020, that's gonna take a decade or more to turn back to red, lol...

Oh, and he's gonna win the popular vote even including nutty California.

Pretty nutty conspiracies. You say California will remain blue, yet vote for Trump.

He may pick up several states, but he will also lose several more states.

Oh ok, so you dont know of any bribes Trump has taken. Thanks for playing.

oh kinda like a soccer game I win 5-1 but you have more "shots on goal" so I barely won. I see. Lets just keep score by something else that makes you look like you didnt really lose. sure. and the whole time Hillary was braying that Trump wouldnt accept losing.

barely won the electoral college,

The border wall is the story. Trump is the President and has asked for funding in his budget.

So that means either the Dems block him again and they lose the 2020 election. Then we get the wall after he is reelected in 2020. Either one is fine.

The border wall is the story. Trump is the President and has asked for funding in his budget.

So that means either the Dems block him again and they lose the 2020 election. Then we get the wall after he is reelected in 2020. Either one is fine.

Checks and balances. Where is your logic in this? How will dems lose the 2020 election by blocking him again?

We are a capitalist society. Is capitalism "deplorable" too? Its not a demon, its not made up, its real. These people really want to eliminate our way of life and what made our country great. The USA is not, and will not, be a socialist country.

Really, but I thought Trump was going to MAGA and Hillary, Goldman Sach's favorite speaker, was the one who said America was already great. I see, it's just that we haven't had enough unregulated, disaster capitalism. The temerity of some foolhardy Americans, to think that they have a right to place limits on markets or the predatory elites who blew up the economy on W's watch. Elites who were bailed out with, wait on it, socialism.

What about that Princeton study a few years ago that declared the US already operates as an oligarchy:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

And if you're going to use AOC's words against her, provide some context. Latching onto only the most scare-worthy quotes may work with Fox viewers who blurt out "Marxism!" on command like poodles, but for those of us who can read and write more than a few sentences at a time:

"Just as there’s all this fearmongering that government is going to take over every corporation and government is going to take over every business or every form of production, we should be scared right now because corporations have taken over our government," Ocasio-Cortez said.

Her version of populism, like Sanders, is one that will destroy grifters like Trump. Blame the browns then loot the public treasury or privatize public services to reward your cronies. IOW, inviting your fellow oligarchs into the White House and do deals right there, soiling the furniture and the memory of the great men who came before you. Fortunately, there are 10s of 1000s of imaginary Mexican rapists to provide cover for the con-artists and demagogues:

“The system has pitted white working-class Americans against black and brown working-class Americans to basically screw over all working class Americans.”

You ever get enough people to recognize this fundamental reality and the GOP will be put out to pasture for another 4 decades. Of course, my party is stupid enough to nominate a proud defender of capitalism. Campaign contributions, cushy amakudari gigs for when you leave off, lucrative speeches--the grifters are limited to the GOP.

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Mr. Donald J. Trump is a one trick pony ... “the wall, the wall, the wall”. And it continues to be a distraction from the real problems the country faces.

For a one trick pony - take a look at some of his achievements

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

"President Trump hurt millions of Americans and caused widespread chaos when he recklessly shut down the government to try to get his expensive and ineffective wall," said Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer in a joint statement on Sunday.

"Congress refused to fund his wall and he was forced to admit defeat and reopen the government. The same thing will repeat itself if he tries this again. We hope he learned his lesson," said the two top Democrats in Congress.

First of all, he's an usurper - not 'President'. Now he's howling and crying like a spoiled baby again. He's so obsessed over this unnecessary, illegal, undemocratic, immoral and stupid wall.

30 years ago this year the Iron Curtain opened up, the Berlin Wall would come down!

We hope he learned his lesson

Donnie Douchebag certainly hasn't. Has humanity learned anything from the Revolutions of 1989?  

He keeps running his motormouth on autopilot. He won't shut up and do his duty to the American people.

He MUST be impeached ASAP. Enough of this Mussolini and his cretinous bullying crap!

For a one trick pony - take a look at some of his achievements

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

Lol, a right wing msm article that compares Trump to Reagan and copy and pastes Trump's achievements that his own team originally posted on his own website (which btw don't often include any factual data, but rather just claims).

Trump was elected in 2016 to build a wall. Why would the same people now vote against building a wall?

The only Dem way to win is to get even more people to vote against trump (not FOR Dems) than last time.

You do that by personal attacks and divisiveness and ballot harvesting and adding more voters from groups that will reliably vote Dem by screaming racism! Sexism! Homophobia! Islamophobia!

Trump was elected in 2016 to build a wall. Why would the same people now vote against building a wall?

o rly? I thought he was elected to "drain the swamp" and get Mexico to pay for a border wall. Not waste US tax dollars on one.

The only Dem way to win is to get even more people to vote against trump (not FOR Dems) than last time.

Shouldn't be so hard, already on the right track.

You do that by personal attacks and divisiveness and ballot harvesting and adding more voters from groups that will reliably vote Dem by screaming racism! Sexism! Homophobia! Islamophobia!

The right also definitely does exactly what you've just described. Althought they change the words to, "socialists" "marxists" "antisemites" "dirty mexicans" "infanticide" etc. Not to mention Trumps daily personal attack on someone with name calling added to it.

I don’t know if Trump can get anything from a Democrat congress that refuses to work with him. The only thing he can do is just throw the dice, continue on trying to get the money he needs while his declaration of a a national emergency plays out in the courts. More than likely the courts will side with him in the end.

Not to mention Trumps daily personal attack on someone with name calling added to it.

I think if Trump haters wouldn’t attack him so much for every little thing, he’d back off as well, they don’t and we all know Trump will punch back. So that the media is surprised when that happens always surprises me, they should know by now.

More than likely the courts will side with him in the end.

Why do you think the courts will side with him? Seems unlikely considering GOP senate didn't.

I think if Trump haters wouldn’t attack him so much for every little thing, he’d back off as well, they don’t and we all know Trump will punch back. So that the media is surprised when that happens always surprises me, they should know by now.

I doubt anybody is surprised by it. It doesn't look good on his character though. Every president has been criticized by the media and opposing politicians, but its unusual, childish, for the president to attack people with name calling etc.

Just an idea, but perhaps he's looking to change the budget with 8.6 billion wall funding because he anticipates the SCOTUS to reject his national emergency. Funny, cause his budget proposal will be slapped down immediately from both house and senate.

Why do you think the courts will side with him? Seems unlikely considering GOP senate didn't.

For the simple reason: the President declared a National Emergency at the border. So the constitutionally, is there a crisis at the border? Based on what we’ve seen, the reports from the border patrol and with the rise of illegals and fentanyl streaming across the border, they will determine a simple yes or no if the President has the constitutional right in this case or not to declare and emergency and he does.

I doubt anybody is surprised by it. It doesn't look good on his character though.

Ok and?

Every president has been criticized by the media and opposing politicians, but its unusual, childish, for the president to attack people with name calling etc.

But it’s ok for them to lash out at him and he has to take it? I disagree.

The wall is still a waste of money. The majority decided it.

This is interesting -

Sen. Graham on Stunning Border Crossing Stats: 'If This Is Not a Crisis, What the Hell Would Be?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4z-lKUuWOw

This is interesting

It's not.

The wall is still a waste of money. The majority decided it.

No, it's not, and what, the majority of the do nothing but obstruct the president House? pffft! They're not going to be the majority after 2020.

They're not going to be the majority after 2020.

The majority includes the GOP...that's why they decided to only give 1.4 billion and fight Trump's national emergency.

For the simple reason: the President declared a National Emergency at the border. So the constitutionally, is there a crisis at the border? Based on what we’ve seen, the reports from the border patrol and with the rise of illegals and fentanyl streaming across the border, they will determine a simple yes or no if the President has the constitutional right in this case or not to declare and emergency and he does.

And the data shows most of the fentanyl and illegal immigrants aren't coming from the border...

The fentanyl is mostly coming from China. The illegals are mostly overstay visas, which means they came in through ports of entry, boat, or plane.

There's nothing that indicates it as an emergency. First thing scotus will ask is why it took 2 years and the longest gov shut down in history to declare it an emergency.

Sen. Graham on Stunning Border Crossing Stats: 'If This Is Not a Crisis, What the Hell Would Be?'

Trump of course.

While to the North, dangerous Canadians with cases of maple syrup permeate our border. They mean no good, eh?

Canada might wanna build a wall to keep out the Trump people after a democrat wins the 2020 elections.

Canada might wanna build a wall to keep out the Trump people after a democrat wins the 2020 elections.

Don't worry, they don't know how to go over, under, or around it either. So you'll be ok.

Canada might wanna build a wall to keep out the Trump people after a democrat wins the 2020 elections.

De-programming centres will be just fine. 6 months maximum and then they can integrate with the population. A bit like what they have for defectors/refugees from the DPRK when they come to ROK.

We are a capitalist society. Is capitalism "deplorable" too?

Yes,

So that means either the Dems block him again and they lose the 2020 election. Then we get the wall after he is reelected in 2020.

I think what this poster meant to say was;

So that means the Repubs turn on him again and both the Senate and White House are lost in 2020. Then Trump will ge his "four walls" when convicted and sentenced in 2020 (if not earlier).

Either one is fine.

Absolutely.

I think if Trump haters wouldn’t attack him so much for every little thing, he’d back off as well, they don’t and we all know Trump will punch back. So that the media is surprised when that happens always surprises me, they should know by now.

Calling someone born in America a foreinger with no legitimacy to be President, and having absolutely nothing to back up that claim is true hate. Just like saying some white supremacists are "good people"...

As for punching back, it's more like whining back - like a two year old...

The Great Orange Man-Baby...

Just look at the comments on right wing msm like fox news etc.

Anybody with a foreign sounding name or of color is immediately labeled as an illegal by trump supporters. Clearly, there is something wrong with these people. Its out of hand, the emergency is the stupidity of some of these people.

Annex Mexico is the only solution, oh and Venezuela too.

Donnie calls Vlad....

Trump: Hey Vlad, thanks for loaning me some money I can put down on wall funding...

Putin: No problem Donnie, you sure cut me a favor by pulling out of the INF Treaty - now I can go ahead and field my nuclear hypersonic missiles to attack you without any limitations. And thanks for pulling out of Syria - we can now expand our influence and keep our man (Chemical) Assad in power...

Trump: OK, so now can I get all the records back showing all the financing I have received from you and your cronies, plus all the records on Trump Tower Moscow?

Putin: Not yet Donnie, we have other things for you to do...

The wall is still a waste of money. The majority decided it.

For the Democrats, not for the border residents though.

And the data shows most of the fentanyl and illegal immigrants aren't coming from the border...

Well, this drug bust put that rumor to bed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-arizona-opioids-seizure/largest-ever-u-s-border-seizure-of-fentanyl-made-in-arizona-officials-idUSKCN1PP35J

There's nothing that indicates it as an emergency.

Obama thought so in 2013 and the numbers were smaller, no caravans trying to push their way into the country. When it comes to taking the word of House Democrats over the border patrol and ICE, the Democrats lose every single time.

First thing scotus will ask is why it took 2 years and the longest gov shut down in history to declare it an emergency.

And then they will see the stats, see it’s unsustainable and the President on grounds of that had every right to issue the declaration based on the threat. Everyone thought he’d lose the transgender ban as well.

Canada might wanna build a wall to keep out the Trump people after a democrat wins the 2020 elections.

Probably won’t need to, as Trump said, we will never become a socialist nation.

Probably won’t need to, as Trump said, we will never become a socialist nation.

So if the USA does become a socialist nation, a wise idea would be for Trump supporters to go to Canada right?

Well, this drug bust put that rumor to bed.

Bass, if you happen to read the article correctly, it says that it was the biggest bust ever made at an American border checkpoint. That means, they aren't comparing it to the even larger amounts of fentanyl illegally imported from China, and it was also being smuggled through a checkpoint, not an unguarded point where there is no wall. Its not a rumor, and your article proved nothing except that you failed to read it.

PHOENIX (Reuters) - U.S. border agents have seized 254 pounds (115 kg) of fentanyl that was stashed in a truck crossing into Arizona from Mexico, marking the largest single bust of the powerful opioid ever made at an American border checkpoint, officials said on Thursday.

And then they will see the stats, see it’s unsustainable and the President on grounds of that had every right to issue the declaration based on the threat. Everyone thought he’d lose the transgender ban as well.

Transgender ban, travel ban, these are completely different leagues when considering a national emergency claim. And with the full support of the GOP. Trump doesn't have that on his national emergency.

if you happen to read the article correctly, it says that it was the biggest bust ever made at an American border checkpoint.

I know that, but my sister-in-law's co-worker's husband's cousin said that he once saw radical Mexican and Honduran Islamic terrorists with calves the size of cantaloupes carrying 55-gallon barrels of fentanyl on their backs across open desert right in an area where Trump wants to build his wall. And they left prayer mats exactly on the borderline to rub our noses in it. No liberal is going to tell me that's not true.

So if the USA does become a socialist nation,

“If”....If Russia gives back Crimea....

if you happen to read the article correctly, it says that it was the biggest bust ever made at an American border checkpoint.

Therefore, based on the find, it would be equally as smart or even smarter at this point to reinforce that part of the border based on that seizure alone, enough of that stuff to kill the entire population of the US and that fact alone will help Trump win at the Supreme Court.

Transgender ban, travel ban, these are completely different leagues when considering a national emergency claim.

Yes, but a SC win rule is a win rule, that is what we are talking about and every liberal said, he will lose and he didn’t.....twice.

it would be equally as smart or even smarter at this point to reinforce that part of the border based on that seizure alone

So you want a solid wall built across this border checkpoint?

You've been repeatedly corrected about that drug bust being at a border checkpoint where a wall will never be. It's almost as if you simply don't care about facts.

I haven’t been corrected on anything. I know liberals so desperately want to change the narrative because they think their mutant powers will prevail, but the seriousness of the matter is, you can regulate resources on both borders however, the caravans are not coming from Canada or China, let us be clear about this.

So if the USA does become a socialist nation,

“If”....If Russia gives back Crimea....

Drugs are bad, bass.

Therefore, based on the find, it would be equally as smart or even smarter at this point to reinforce that part of the border based on that seizure alone, enough of that stuff to kill the entire population of the US and that fact alone will help Trump win at the Supreme Court.

So they should reinforce the check points instead of building a wall? Now we might be getting somewhere.

Yes, but a SC win rule is a win rule, that is what we are talking about and every liberal said, he will lose and he didn’t.....twice.

He will on the national emergency though. Which is exactly why he is preemptively asking for 8.6 billion dollars in wall funding in the next budget.

Drugs are bad, bass.

And yet Democrats and many of these candidates don’t think it needs urgent attention and why would they, they want to legalize them.

So they should reinforce the check points instead of building a wall?

No, the wall should be built, I never said it shouldn’t. You build the wall, reinforce the borders, add more border patrol, you get Congress to work on immigration reform and you completely eliminate chain migration, visa lottery program and end catch and release.

No, the wall should be built, I never said it shouldn’t. You build the wall,

No.

reinforce the borders,

Maybe.

add more border patrol,

Yes.

you get Congress to work on immigration reform and you completely eliminate chain migration, visa lottery program and end catch and release.

Yes, to some extent.

The caravans coming from the south have been coming for ages,

Democrats have ignored the border for ages as well, doesn’t mean we don’t need to change it and take action.

and like always, they apply for entry and are either denied or accepted.

Illegally entering the country is not applying.

This is interesting

It's not.

It is. You didn't watch it/learn anything. Graham is right and you're wrong on this issue.

Donnie calls Vlad.... blah blah blah

That's some wild imagination you got there lincoln.

So if the USA does become a socialist nation

It's not. Democrats are trying to turn Texas and every other red state blue by letting in a bunch more illegals who will vote Democrat in the coming years. They will fail because we are building the wall even if the Democrats and the RINOS don't want it.

Democrats are trying to turn Texas and every other red state blue by letting in a bunch more illegals who will vote Democrat in the coming years. 

My response:

That's some wild imagination you got there [Sorrena.]

I haven’t been corrected on anything. I know liberals so desperately want to change the narrative because they think their mutant powers will prevail, but the seriousness of the matter is, you can regulate resources on both borders however, the caravans are not coming from Canada or China, let us be clear about this.

There are walls/barriers leading up to the checkpoints. Trump's worthless wall would have done nothing related to the drug bust you keep waiving around.

There are walls/barriers leading up to the checkpoints. Trump's worthless wall would have done nothing related to the drug bust you keep waiving around.

There are a lot of places where there is still nothing.

A lot of people are still crossing illegally.

But this seems to be OK with you.

There are a lot of places where there is still nothing.

This wasn't in dispute.

A lot of people are still crossing illegally.

This also wasn't in dispute.

But this seems to be OK with you.

Your assumption is incorrect. I am completely against people entering our country without the proper documents. I'm also completelybagaibst dehumanizing those people and spending boatloads of money on ineffective measures to prevent their entry.

And yet Democrats and many of these candidates don’t think it needs urgent attention and why would they, they want to legalize them.

We should just stick to the war on drugs instead because it's been a brilliant success.

so just ask them nicely not to walk across please? Wouldn’t want to “dehumanize” someone by not allowing them to enter a place they aren’t supposed to be.

Do you guys just walk into concerts and sport events without tickets and cry against inhimsne treatment when they detain you? Just sit in any seat you want because those seats belong to everyone? I really want to know how people who think like this survive in actual life.

 I am completely against people entering our country without the proper documents. I'm also completelybagaibst dehumanizing those people and spending boatloads of money on ineffective measures to prevent their entry.

Inhumane

So a wall forced someone to go through a checkpoint instead where they were caught.

But the wall had nothing to do with that? Sounds like a perfect reason to build more walls to ensure everything and everyone goes through a checkpoint.

checkpoints are where all drugs are found, no? Or are people so stupid that they prefer checkpoints rather than just walking across where there is no wall?

so just ask them nicely not to walk across please?

No.

Wouldn’t want to “dehumanize” someone by not allowing them to enter a place they aren’t supposed to be. 

Nobody suggested this at all. Was my writing unclear?

Do you guys just walk into concerts and sport events without tickets and cry against inhimsne treatment when they detain you?

No. Again, nobody is suggesting this.

Just sit in any seat you want because those seats belong to everyone?

My previous answer negates this question.

I really want to know how people who think like this survive in actual life.

I woul like to know how anybody that twists my post into a conclusion like this expects to be taken seriously.

So a wall forced someone to go through a checkpoint instead where they were caught. 

No. The depart is about this drug bust being evidence of a need for a wall. The drugs in question were not in anything that could cross outside of a checkpoint.

But the wall had nothing to do with that? Sounds like a perfect reason to build more walls to ensure everything and everyone goes through a checkpoint. 

See above.

checkpoints are where all drugs are found, no? Or are people so stupid that they prefer checkpoints rather than just walking across where there is no wall?

You've lost the plot. See above.

So someone can walk in my country without a ticket by ignoring the designated entrance.

but somehow you dont support someone doing the same at a concert or sports event?

why would it be that the entrance of a concert and it’s designated seating is given such reverence while a sovereign nation is given none?

So someone can walk in my countrywithout a ticket by ignoring the designated entrance. 

It's my country too, and nobody is arguing that they should be able to.

> but somehow you dont support someone doing the same at a concert or sports event? 

I'm not engaging in this aspect of your line of reasoning because it has no bearing due to being irrelevant.

why would it be that the entrance of a concert and it’s designated seating is given such reverence while a sovereign nation is given none?

I can't answer that question and neither can anyone else because nobody is suggesting this other than you.

Just a refresher about the issue, blackl:

PHOENIX (Reuters) - U.S. border agents have seized 254 pounds (115 kg) of fentanyl that was stashed in a truck

2013 when Repubes scuttled two immigration bills. You're facts aren't facts.

Because the Dems didn’t want to get rid of the chain migration, visa lottery, catch and release, that was the main issue and continues to be the biggest issue after the Wall.

There are walls/barriers leading up to the checkpoints.

Not good enough, the Israelis said, if we made an impregnable wall like theirs, we wouldn’t be in this mess, I tend to agree. Hadn’t met anyone from the IDF that thinks the Democrats are right on this issue...at all.

Your assumption is incorrect. I am completely against people entering our country without the proper documents.

Democrats and liberals say this all day long and yet when you press them on details as to what proper border security is, they never give you details in full and they never want to put any of the border agents on TV......wonder why? Maybe they think we all are just a bunch of idiots.

Because the Dems didn’t want to get rid of the chain migration, visa lottery, catch and release, that was the main issue and continues to be the biggest issue after the Wall.

So instead of hlgetting something done because it was such a crisis, Repubs chose to do nothing, twice. Sweet. Must not have been much of a crisis.

Not good enough, the Israelis said, if we made an impregnable wall like theirs, we wouldn’t be in this mess, I tend to agree. Hadn’t met anyone from the IDF that thinks the Democrats are right on this issue...at all.

You may want to fact check yourself in the impregnability of the Israeli apartheid wall.

I've talked to 7 more IDF members and 5 former members more than you that say a wall is a waste. These people are/were on the tunnel detection teams.

Democrats and liberals say this all day long and yet when you press them on details as to what proper border security is, they never give you details in full and they never want to put any of the border agents on TV......wonder why?

We've given you details numerous times; we cannot make you read them or remember them.

Maybe they think we all are just a bunch of idiots.

If the shoe fits?

Yep if that much drugs was seized at a checkpoint- imagine how much got through where there is no checkpoint.

Totally. Because transporting massive amounts of illicit substances is simple to do through the desert. Experts haven't been running interdiction for numerous years.

or do criminals only bring drugs through checkpoints? Honor system or something.

See abovez

anyway the budget calls for over 700 miles of wall to be built with that money so let’s see.

Yeah, let's not invest in effective technology because a wall makes us feel safe.