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What's behind Hong Kong election law changes


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What's going on is that the CCP is breaking of China's 97 agreement with the UK and breaking its promise of direct elections because it doesn't like the fact that in a free and fair election with direct democracy, it would get its behind whipped.

So it will try to give a fig-leaf to elections while destroying a nascent democracy in the bud. Otherwise, Main-landers might reasonably ask "Taiwan has democracy. Hong Kong has democracy. Why not us?"

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Totalitarianism. That's what. An insecure populace awash in the apparatus of a police state. The PRC is nightmarish, dangerous and needs keeping in place.


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USA interference and attempted regime change?

At least the HK insurgents get payrolls. From...

I love HK, used to live there, but hey, everything was very fine before. 3 years ago I was looking for a job in either NK or Singapore. I will stick to japan, at the moment one of the most free countries in the world.

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USA interference and attempted regime change?

Sorry But I have to call BS on that statement.

At least the HK insurgents get payrolls. From...

Businesses that have a vested interest in HK being free and slightly democratic.

With financial institutions set to exodus from HK it will become just another Chinese city under the full control of the party. China loves to break treaties and agreements. It has been doing much of that lately.

China can not be trusted and can not speak truth unless it makes the party look good in doing so. Honesty is just not a communist trait in China.

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What's behind Hong Kong election law changes?

Well, it's not rocket science: the CCP's racketeering to quash freedom and exert its control over the population by means of voter suppression, a practice by no means unknown in "the Land of the Free".

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And then the CCP decided to exert its control.

We spent a lot of time deciding between HK and Singapore to expand into for our Asian operations. I really wanted HK. In the end, we chose Singapore, out of fear that the CCP may do exactly what they're doing.

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“there are sanctions on the books that they need to be mindful of if they are operating in Hong Kong..."

It's not the sanctions "on the books" businesses will have to worry about. It's about being hauled away at any time for any reason with no recourse. HK is no longer manufacturing; it is an intellectual hub, something Shanghai and other mainland cities are not precisely for the above reason. The PRC is taking great risks with ripple effects.

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A lot of analogies there with a large number of US congressmen and congresswomen said he n the left side of the aisle.

How do you figure that? May need to read up on US election law.

In the US, city representatives are picked by the local people, funded by locals. Washington D.C. doesn't dictate who can run for Mayor or city council in Omaha or Houston. They don't force 70% of the representatives to be pre-selected by the national parties either. By the time someone becomes a US Congress-person or Senator, that person has been vetted through fire, news organizations, opposition dirty tricks, and a number of local elected positions (almost always). It is very strange for someone to become a Senator without having any prior experience in an elected office. Of course, Georgia elected 2 new Senators with ZERO experience, which still shocks me. That was more about hating Trump than anything and $millions of outside money flooded into the state.

OTOH, Beijing just added 25% more unelected representatives to a city government to stack the votes so that no CCP-opposition would be possible, ever.

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Taiwan is seeing what's happening in Hong Kong, and realizing that the "One Country, Two Systems" concept doesn't work. They don't want to become what Hong Kong is becoming

It doesn't work because China focuses too much on the "One Country" part, but not enough on the "Two Systems" part of the equation

So what China is doing to Hong Kong is actually to their detriment with regards to Taiwan

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How do you figure that? May need to read up on US election law. 

Read up on House Resolution 1. Federal takeover of local elections and government funding of campaigns. Western democracy’s should pay close attention to what the Leftist CCP is doing to Hong Kong. Their Leftist brethren in the West have similar designs to squelch free speech and ensure de facto one party. It’s already happened in California and New York and is spreading top down from Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer.

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The CCP are the most hard-core rightists on the planet. The idea that they are leftist just show how ridiculous you far-right extremists are.

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I'll even spell this out for those who don't understand how left and right work.

It's a spectrum, essentially one of law and order. On the far left, you have anarchists. Those who believe everyone should be free to do anything. The further right you go, the more law and order comes in. At a certain point, there is a healthy balance between freedom, and law and order. The far right extreme is when law and order gets out of hand, and becomes authoritarian. There is no freedom, and the state controls everything.

The two ends of the political spectrum represent the inverse of freedom vs. safety. The far left is absolute freedom, resulting in a society absence of the protection of law. The far right is absolute safety, due to the lack of freedom for one to commit any crimes.

Now in that spectrum, hands up everyone who thinks China is mostly on the side of no law, and absolute freedom. Now hands up for those who thing China is no freedom, and absolute law.

The "leftist CPP". What a joke. Or complete and utter ignorance. I'm not sure which.

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