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What’s in store when the Electoral College meets

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Hopefully the Electoral College will put the final nails in the coffin of the Trump/GOP attempts to steal the election. Trump etal have done more damage to the US than any regime in US history. I'm NOT looking forward to Biden's presidency, but the global alt right's crazy uncle and his klan have got to go.

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WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

Trump will call it the biggest fraud ever.

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Now that "safe harbor" of the Electoral College has been reached and the Supreme Court has rejected any claims of voting impropriety, it is now only a matter of formality for the House to count the votes.

Game over for Trump.

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Further confirmation that there wasn’t widespread fraud or irregularities in the most secure election in US history in which the overwhelming majority of voters resoundingly rejected Trump.

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Trump will never accept the election results. Will never concede. Will be another ex-president next month.

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This article is written so one-sided. Yet more confirmation that the media helped swing things for Joe Biden.

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This article is written so one-sided. Yet more confirmation that the media helped swing things for Joe Biden.

It’s really strange how conservatives view facts as biased.

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This article is written so one-sided. Yet more confirmation that the media helped swing things for Joe Biden.

70+ million lost, 80+ million won. That’s how it works.

Its done, deal with it.

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Once the electoral votes are cast, they are sent to Congress, where both houses will convene on Jan. 6 for a session presided over by Vice President Mike Pence. The envelopes from each state and the District of Columbia will be opened and the votes tallied.

Correct.

Nothing is finalized until January 6th.

If on that date, Biden fails to get over 270 Certified Electoral Votes during the official count it IMMEDIATELY goes to a 1 State, 1 Vote election.

Count the Reds on that map above.

In the event of a tie, Pence will cast the deciding vote.

All Trump needs to do is disrupt the count on January 6th and he will be the Constitutionally elected President.

He knows and that's why he's stalling and dragging this out until that date.

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Nothing is finalized until January 6th.

As Jim C. said, "So you're telling us there's still a chance?"

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Yeah very simplistic explanation of how this works when there is not a disputed election.

there is a whole different set of rules for when it is disputed and a date on a calendar doesn’t change those.

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So on January 7th we won’t have to listen to that bs anymore? You’ll graciously accept that you were wrong, right?

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No more (or at least not that much) blaming, dividing, distracting, failing, and b.s.ing after 7 January!

He (Donald) will be gone ... maybe he wants to start a "shadow cabinet"? Governing from his golf course?

It's over and (get) out!

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Once the EC casts their votes (as defined by Article 2, of the 12th Amendment - which in this case would be Monday Dec 14th) then Congress certifies the ECs vote on January 6th, that's when the nail in the coffin is done. As CNNs Jake Tapper rightfully said on Sunday Dec 13; in a warped way, we should be thanking Trump - as he helped expose all those in Congress who openly and willfully sought to subvert the votes of those who legally voted for Biden. Those same "honest" men and women who swore an oath of allegiance to the Constitution.

In essence, those members of Congress violated their Oath of Office to uphold the Constitution of the USA - Article 3 of the 14th Amendment. New Jersey's Congressman Pascrell said as much, those members of Congress who endorsed and signed on this farce to overturn the election, need to leave Congress. You can't go claiming that somehow a vote for the US President was illegitimate, while at the same time claiming the remainder of folks jockeying for different political positions on that same ballot were legitimate - without any evidence to support the claim in the first place.

Already you're reading about those in Congress who endorsed the manifesto, are now quickly turning tail and claiming to the effect it was a misunderstanding of some sorts. No, this was a straight-up power grab, and they got exposed in the grandest of ways - and yet you'll still have folks will be choose to be willfully ignorant of the facts.

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The Proud Boys March in on masse. Stand the college down. Trump at their head, they March back to the White House and the much anticipated coup is underway.

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Burning Bush Today  07:49 am JST

Once the electoral votes are cast, they are sent to Congress, where both houses will convene on Jan. 6 for a session presided over by Vice President Mike Pence. The envelopes from each state and the District of Columbia will be opened and the votes tallied.

Correct.

Nothing is finalized until January 6th.

If on that date, Biden fails to get over 270 Certified Electoral Votes during the official count it IMMEDIATELY goes to a 1 State, 1 Vote election.

Count the Reds on that map above.

In the event of a tie, Pence will cast the deciding vote.

All Trump needs to do is disrupt the count on January 6th and he will be the Constitutionally elected President.

He knows and that's why he's stalling and dragging this out until that date.

@Burning Bush

What a grand idea! Are you sure Trump would be happy when his plot of drama is spoiled?

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Or it all goes smoothly. Biden gets in. And we have 4 years of crony capitalist government and stagnation both politically and economically

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Trumpy, his corrupt cohort and his trumpybelievers this Monday..

https://tenor.com/view/berrinche-tantrum-kid-when-you-didnt-get-what-you-want-gif-5017964

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then we move on to special counsel for Hunter Biden until Joe Biden has to admit he lied, knew what Hunter was up to and took CCP money.

Good on you for admitting Trump lost. Coming from the same people who predicted the SC would rule in Trump's favor in Pennsylvania AND in Texas vs. Pennsylvania, this prediction too is just hilarious.

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It's over Trump.

I know he will never accept that he legitimately lost. Nor will his blind followers who are threatening violence.

On this date in 2000, Al Gore graciously conceded defeat to President elect Bush.

What a sad day for America.

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No such admission. For now, the media claims he lost in the counting of ballots.

which are not votes, just ballots that need to be confirmed as legally cast by legitimate voters. Hasn’t happened yet because courts are only ruling on “standing”.

Good on you for admitting Trump lost.

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No such admission. For now, the media claims he lost in the counting of ballots.

Of course you did. Why would there be a need for a special council to investigate a private citizen? :D

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Burning Bush: If on that date, Biden fails to get over 270 Certified Electoral Votes during the official count it IMMEDIATELY goes to a 1 State, 1 Vote election.

The only way Biden doesn't get to 270 is if objections are brought up and sustained. In that case the EC votes for that state are thrown out.

How do objections get sustained? They do votes in the House and the Senate. It's a simple majority situation (not 1 state, 1 vote) and both bodies have to agree on the objections. That means your plan would have to include Democrats voting to invalidate Biden EC votes, which is stupid.

Your situation of 1 state, 1 vote is when the House and Senate are tasked with electing the President and Vice President directly. But it will never reach that situation given what I wrote above.

All Trump needs to do is disrupt the count on January 6th and he will be the Constitutionally elected President.

Pence and Trump can do whatever they want to derail the democratic process on the 6th. Pence could just decide to not show up and count the votes. But the Constitution clearly says that if no choice has been made by January 20, the Speaker of the House will be President. That would be Nancy Pelosi.

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Jimizo: He floated a conspiracy theory in 2016 that 3 million illegals voted for Clinton. That was found to be baseless along with his other conspiracy theories.

Trump claimed fraud when Ted Cruz beat him in a 2016 primary. He claimed fraud when he lost the popular vote to Clinton in 2016. He claimed fraud with the losses the GOP took in 2018. And now he's claimed fraud in the election he just lost in 2020.

Literally, all he does is claim fraud every single time there is a loss.

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Because of the fraud and corruption that is related to a foreign power., 

Oh, the voter fraud that doesn't exist? The voter fraud that even Donald's own SC appointees don't buy? Yeah, that's a real threat to Democracy.

By causing a presidential candidate and his family to be bought and paid for.

Oh, a presidential candidate Kind was "bought" by the CCP. Kind of like all the trademarks China awarded to Ivanka Trump? Surely you're worried about that, too. :D

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Black Hasn’t happened yet because courts are only ruling on “standing”.

Pure garbage. The SC ruled on standing, the lower courts have ruled based on lack of evidence. And you know that damn well.

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This article is written so one-sided. Yet more confirmation that the media helped swing things for Joe Biden.

I wasn't sure which specific part is biased according to you. Can you point it out?

It is funny because in November you said:

Election result will be announced on December 14th. This will go to the Supreme Court despite what the mainstream media “announces”

Yes, you were right about it going to the Supreme Court. Well, it didn't get a hearing.

And you are also right that the election result will be announced on December 14th. Well done on being so right!

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In the event of a tie, Pence will cast the deciding vote.

All Trump needs to do is disrupt the count on January 6th and he will be the Constitutionally elected President.

He knows and that's why he's stalling and dragging this out until that date.

Burning Bush:

The relish you show in imagining all these scenarios in which the will of the majority of the people is subverted and a coup is made successful by slippery abuses of the law of the land is appalling.

You appear to have no idea of the consequences. Do you even understand the damage that would be done to the US and worldwide if any of these political fever dreams of yours actually came to pass?

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Further confirmation that there wasn’t widespread fraud or irregularities in the most secure election in US history in which the overwhelming majority of voters resoundingly rejected Trump.

Election 2020 is clear testimony to how fantasy US democracy works — ordinary Americans with no say over how the nation is run and by whom.

It’s also more evidence of dominant media mass deception, supporting election fraud over a free, fair and open process.

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BlacklabelToday  07:56 am JST

Yeah very simplistic explanation of how this works when there is not a disputed election.

there is a whole different set of rules for when it is disputed and a date on a calendar doesn’t change those.

It's not really disputed though is it, Trump lost and he's out. All you've got is Trump stringing you along out of his own greed and vanity, every legal door he knocks on stays slammed shut,

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Election 2020 is clear testimony to how fantasy US democracy works — ordinary Americans with no say over how the nation is run and by whom.

It’s also more evidence of dominant media mass deception, supporting election fraud over a free, fair and open process.

Sad but true.

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Election 2020 is clear testimony to how fantasy US democracy works — ordinary Americans with no say over how the nation is run and by whom.

Lol is it? The majority of Americans voted for Biden. He won the election and he's going to be president. That's how Democracy works. Get over it.

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And one more Repub exits the Trump Crazy Train...

Karl Rove Rips Trump: ‘Americans Don’t Like Sore Losers’

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/karl-rove-rips-trump-americans-180603160.html

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Karl Rove rips Trump? No joke. That's pretty serious.

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Oh my - the Trump Crazy Train is losing riders faster than COVID spreading at a Rose Garden ceremony....

*Chris Christie panned the president’s legal arguments as “an absurdity” and asked Trump to “show us the evidence” that the election should be overturned.*

“Well, listen, the legal theory put forward by [Trump’s] legal team and by the president is an absurdity,” the former governor continued, “And the reason why the Supreme Court didn’t take [the Texas lawsuit] is because it’s an absurd idea to think that any state or any number of states, no matter how good they are, can challenge another state’s right to run the election as they see fit. And also, there’s no evidence, as I’ve been saying, since election night. Show us the evidence.”

*Christie also shined a light on Trump’s hypocrisy by giving examples of how easily the president has turned on Republican governors he once praised but is now trashing because they won’t go along with his election fraud scheme.*

Which national-level Repub is next to dump Trump?

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The Homeland Security, the AG Barr, the SCOTUS, and Karl Rove dismissed Trump's claims. Dismissed the claims of Trump and his allies, calling them “deranged." AD.

Karl Rove Rips Trump: ‘Americans Don’t Like Sore Losers’

Chris Christie panned the president’s legal arguments as “an absurdity” and asked Trump to “show us the evidence” that the election should be overturned.

Christie went on to say that Trump is lying about the governors that the president now refers to as RINOs (Republican in name only).

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Donald who?

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Since Republicans, some at least, have expressed a willingness to throw out the rule of law and rule by the people to embrace the rule of winning at any cost, I will believe this thing is done when Trump is out of the WH and the fumigators have completed the disinfection work. Until then, I am worried about violence from the Trump zombies, and then where things might go from there. All this is such an insult to the dedicated Democrat and Republican poll workers who worked so hard to conduct a fair election, and who succeeded.

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Am worried about violence from Trump fanatics as well. Suppose I better start with preparation work to evacuate to a safer state. Any blue state will do.

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Question, why do some of you GPers hate democracy.....

SERIOUS question!!

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The EC is a done deal. The problem will arise in the house and senate if some GOP knothead in each refuses to accept the electors' votes, and tries to throw the election to the congress. If that happens, there will be civil war.

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Trump supporter here. I think it is time to recognize reality and congratulate Joe Biden. What is more important now is winning at least one of the Georgia senate races. Can't be still fighting unwinnable battles and being distracted about the past election.

Moving forward, there really needs to be a tightening up of the mail-in/non-in-person voting procedures. Also the use of software and machines to count ballots needs to be seriously reconsidered. A hand count may take longer, but will be more reliable and give the public confidence in the process. Having voters present ID to vote is only common sense and is done in virtually every other country on the planet. I think these are winnable battles that can make a difference in future elections.

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The President puts the state fraudsters on final notice as December 14 approaches:

Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners, and many others voted illegally. Also, machine “glitches” (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, “stuffing the ballot box”, votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!

You can almost see their smug expressions as they sneer "so what are you going to do about it?" I suspect the answer will be a very big surprise.

And there is more:

Speaker 11: You know that it's tradition for previous president's to go to the next president's inauguration. So will you attend Joe Biden's?

President Trump: I don't want to say that yet.

Speaker 11: But he is going to be inaugurated.

President Trump: I mean, I know the answer. I'll be honest. I know the answer, but I just don't want to say it yet.

Speaker 11: Is that a yes?

President Trump: Look. A thing like this possibly has never happened before, but maybe people just didn't catch it. But we've caught it.

Sounds a lot more like a no, doesn't it?

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this map looks a hell lot like a periodic table xD

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Trump supporter here. I think it is time to recognize reality and congratulate Joe Biden.

A voice of reason in Republican ranks. Perhaps you could work on some of your fellow posters.

Also the use of software and machines to count ballots needs to be seriously reconsidered. A hand count may take longer, but will be more reliable and give the public confidence in the process.

It would seem like a good idea, if it prevented all this from happening again. But it's not just about the technology, is it?

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The President puts the state fraudsters on final notice as December 14 approaches:

Guess you mean all those Repub Governors and Secretaries of State...interesting calling your own team "fraudsters"...

VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!

This election is over...except for the deluded...

You can almost see their smug expressions as they sneer "so what are you going to do about it?" I suspect the answer will be a very big surprise.

I think Repub Gov Brian Kemp has a smug expression every day...and your surprise is coming on Jan 20th...

Hope you're ready for it...

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The Trump House of Cards is about to tumble down.

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Trump supporter here. I think it is time to recognize reality 

That only took 3+ years. Lmao.

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A hand count may take longer, but will be more reliable and give the public confidence in the process. 

The recounts were done by hand. Same result and same whining about it.

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Cheyenne 9’s Coverage of the Official White House Address:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_jrebvmPlk

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The Trump House of Cards is about to tumble down.

Reminds me of something an acquaintance of mine used to sing, a parody of the old Ned Miller song...

"From a Jack to a Nine..."

Except Trump isn't worth more than a Three of Clubs. Tops.

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All Trump needs to do is disrupt the count on January 6th and he will be the Constitutionally elected President.

He knows and that's why he's stalling and dragging this out until that date.

and if by the small chance that happens the US will no longer be a democratic nation itll be a dictatorship, youll see protest across the national that male BLM look like a picnic. You better pray the US doesnt go down that path

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Election 2020 is clear testimony to how fantasy US democracy works — ordinary Americans with no say over how the nation is run and by whom.

It’s also more evidence of dominant media mass deception, supporting election fraud over a free, fair and open process.

If this is clear testimony to how your fantasy democracy works, why are you promoting not even fantasy democracy, but autocracy and fascism?

This election was as fair as it gets, as the American election process has at least tried to be, through the history of the USA.

2020 has been the most fair election, ever.

The Trumpericans off the rails complaints, many who have some vendetta against democracy, either don't understand or care for patriotism and want their dictator in chief, their racist, their guy who is incapable of critical thought and lies all the time as the supreme leader.

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No such admission. For now, the media claims he lost in the counting of ballots.

which are not votes, just ballots that need to be confirmed as legally cast by legitimate voters. Hasn’t happened yet because courts are only ruling on “standing”.

Funny how Trump and supporters were more than happy to accept the media calling the election in 2016 the day after the election. Something the media has been doing since its inception is to call elections. This election was not even close yet for some reason after hundreds of years this election called by the media is somehow not valid until Jan 6th, or even inauguration day? The silliness of such assertions boggles the mind. The media rely on getting things correct because getting it wrong on big issues leads to loss of ratings and trust of the masses. Even Fox news called it and they were Trump loyalists for five years.

Do not hold out any hope that the media got it wrong. The court cases have been thrown out, dismissed and withdrawn. Trump failed to get a second term for the simple reason that the vast majority of American voters did not believe he deserved it. Democracy in action. Working as it was intended to work. Trump lost, Biden won. The people of America have spoken. Let it be so recorded and let it be done.

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Declare the election void and swear in the House Speaker Pelosi.

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Yesterday violent Proud Boys demo in Washington from the unmasked Trump supporters. The president's supporters refuse to accept that he lost the election. Four people were hospitalized with stab wounds.

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I don't think it's irrational to hate Donald Trump but I do think it is to claim massive voter fraud.

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That would be never Peter.

The USA has two parties now, the Democratic party and the Anti-Democracy party. The latter are traitors to their country as is their leader Trump. They want the USA to become like Russia, just like their leader Trump.

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Stand the college down. Trump at their head, they March back to the White House and the much anticipated coup is underway.

and that would be a coup and classed as dometic terrorist, then the military can come in and clean them out.

US military allegiance is to the constitution not Trump, good luck getting any US general to side with Trump especially since the constitution through the courts have shown the legitimate president is Biden.

imagine proud boys bringing guns to a drone and tank fight. Hellfire , JDAMS, Abrahams will bring them to reality real quick

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good luck getting any US general to side with Trump 

The Trump era has been the most bizarre of any, one in which a 'Dr. Strangelove' scenario does not seem out of the question.

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I have the feeling that the date that will be indelible for our Trump supporting friends won't be 14 Dec, or 20 Jan - it will be 5 Jan....

That's the Georgia Senate runoff election...

No matter which way it goes, Repub or Dem winners, once it's complete traditional Repubs will no longer have to hold their tongues and you'll see scores of them come out, like the few ones that have spines are now, and tell Trump it's time cut the victim act and to go...

That will be a consequential date - responsible Repubs will stand up and defend democracy, and Trump's cult members will turn on them and call them all traitors and scum...

It could be the beginning of the disintegration of the Grand Old Party...

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It could be the beginning of the disintegration of the Grand Old Party...

I disagree. I think the nabobs running the GOP recognize there is a large population of pro-Trump, anti-democracy extremists, and their votes are needed to keep GOP pols in office.

The GOP powers are cynical; they've shown they're willing to sell US democratic principles down the drain to maintain their power. Look how they've attacked voting and elections. Look how they've turned their backs on 'foreign' interference, even accepted help from 'foreign' states.

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Fear the Walking Dead

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