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Who is a war criminal, and who gets to decide?

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By COLLEEN LONG, MIKE CORDER and ERIC TUCKER

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Heard a lot about Nuremberg over the past year. I wonder if those same posters will be so keen to reference it in this context.

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Who is a war criminal?

Henry Kissinger. The Neo-con clique without a doubt. The Saudi oil sheiks.

Our metrics should be more impartial and not only include those who are not allied.

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unfolding onslaught in Ukraine, where hospitals and maternity wards have been bombed

Like in Syria, Russia will probably continue to get Putin state media, including his keyboard armies to say, "the other guys did it", they'll once again say "it's the western media that's covering up for them". The US has committed numerous atrocities, but in many cases I'm familiar with those responsible for doing so were prosecuted. William Calley who led the My Lai Massacre died in jail serving a life sentence as I recall.

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The hypocrisy is stunning. Yes Putin is a thug. But how many civilians did the US and NATO kill in Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan?

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The hypocrisy is stunning. Yes Putin is a thug. But how many civilians did the US and NATO kill in Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan?

What hypocrisy are you speaking of? Who are you railing at?

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Let’s keep things simple, shall we? Putin is actively and intentionally targeting and slaughtering children, so we all need to forget finger pointing at others and focus objectively on his crimes.

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Comedy gold.

Back in 2020 US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo slapped sanction on members of the International Criminal Court's chief prosecutor and head of jurisdiction because they were investigating US war crimes committed in Afghanistan by the military and the CIA.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/908896108/trump-administration-sanctions-icc-prosecutor-investigating-alleged-u-s-war-crim

That's the same Pompeo who, as Director of the CIA, plotted to kidnap and murder the Australian journalist Julian Assange.

https://www.democracynow.org/2021/9/28/cia_julian_assange_assassination_plot

The hypocrisy is stunning.

Stunning, but not even remotely surprising anymore.

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One could call Putin a war criminal. One could also call a president that just approved a 14 billion dollar payday for the domestic arms industry to supply weapons to Ukraine is also a war criminal.

Of course you can call Putin a war criminal - he is pursuing a medieval campaign that is now clearly targeting civilians.

A supplier of weapons to a country that is defending itself against an agressor wouldn't be classed as a war criminal. It is as though you missed the entire article.

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As far as I am concerned the Putin-Is-A-War-Criminal has just become a meme and I very much hope that people are actully gathering good evidence because it will be evidence that convicts him as everything else is just glitter.

The targeting of civilian buildings, as well as indiscriminate shelling of cities shows either a deliberate intent to kill civilians or such a careless disregard for civilian casualties that large numbers of civilian deaths would be expected. So yes, either way a war criminal. Not much doubt. It isn't a meme, it's just fact.

But unless he is disposed by his own government, it is highly unlikely he will ever face trial.

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Putin is a war criminal but he will never be tried as such. The examples given in the article of successful prosecutions: Nuremberg, Bosnia, Liberia were all on the losing side of an intervention or a coup.

Neither will be happening in the case of Putin and the Ukraine.

The old cliche about victors and history.

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Who is or is not a war criminal is not arbitrary. The Geneva Conventions define what is permissible in war and what is impermissible. The UN has a well known definition of genocide. What constitutes a war crime is defined in international law. The judges in the ICC determine the facts of a suspected war crime and then decide if the facts indeed constitute a war crime.

It was taught to us in the military, at least it was when I served, with stern warnings from former POWs with harrowing tales of torture and neglect at the hands of the enemy, personal heros of mine with names and faces, to never violate those laws. So much of the public in western nations never spend a day in the military but sure talk like they know everything about it on discussion boards.

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The victors (much like history) and the current sociological environment (which shifts all the time).

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The person who decides to do a war crime, is the person who decides they are a war criminal. After that, it's whether or not they get caught and face punishment for those crimes.

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Atomic bomb, napalm, depleted uranium.....all those caused thousands of deaths

It seems the definition of war criminal does not apply to the free world

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The victors decide...

So Putin is safe.

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one could call Putin a war criminal. One could also call a president that just approved a 14 billion dollar payday for the domestic arms industry to supply weapons to Ukraine is also a war criminal. In fact, they’re all war criminals.

Aiding a nation under attack by a much larger and nuclear armed power by providing the nation under attack the armaments needed to defend themselves is not a crime under international law unless there is a formal UN resolution requiring member states to embargo arms to both sides in a conflict. Instead in this case you have the UN condemning the Russians. It is perfectly legal and highly moral to provide arms to the Ukrainians. They have done nothing wrong. The Russians are mad because Mr. Zelenskyy is pro-European and not amenable to close association with Russia. Mr. Putin reminds me of a guy who just cannot believe his beautiful ex-girlfriend rejected him and goes bats__t crazy when the reality finally sinks in that he has lost her forever. Sometimes guys in that position walk away, but a few will lash out even do violence to their ex. Ukraine largely rejected Russia and want to be part of Europe, enraging Mr. Putin. Now Russian forces kill indiscriminately and Mr. Putin bears responsibility for this. Not the US or any other nation giving Ukraine aid.

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The hypocrisy is stunning. Yes Putin is a thug. But how many civilians did the US and NATO kill in Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan?

Exactly! When The US and it’s allies committed mass murder of innocent civilians including children then it was ok! Now they have the nerve to call out Putin! Yes, Putin is a mad man and evil but The US had set the precedent by invading so many countries and killed innocent civilians without any consequences!

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its just names. you could call him Corn Pop and say he is a bad dude too.

What does it help or solve? its super juvenile to name call people and not enforce a no fly zone or give fighter jets. You are just inciting a person who is beating up someone else and you arent even helping.

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its just names. you could call him Corn Pop and say he is a bad dude too.

That is a non-answer. Do you think Putin is a war criminal and a thug?

What does it help or solve?

I think it strengthens the resolve of Ukraine and her allies for one. Putin absolutely needs to be called out for his war crimes.

its super juvenile to name call people and not enforce a no fly zone or give fighter jets

"Corn pop" would be super juvenile, but calling a war criminal, a criminal is far from juvenile.

You are just inciting a person who is beating up someone else and you arent even helping.

First off, you've already stated you don't think the US needs to be involved. Second, the US has given Ukraine billions in aid.

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Its quite juvenile and unhelpful to try to name call and tough guy your way through this without a tenable foreign policy.

What kind of foreign policy would you have implemented if you were in Biden’s place? Tell us all! It’s easier to say that Biden isn’t doing enough but actually he has done the maximum anyone could do in this situation without starting world war 3!

There is nothing any other world leader can do to stop Putin except to put their own soldiers on the ground to fight the Russians…that would lead to World war 3 and use of nuclear weapons…is that what you want?

I’ve read some comments stating that if Trump was president then this invasion won’t have happened…that’s absolutely wrong! If Trump was the current President then he would have put his total support behind Putin for this invasion…he still is doing so and not once has he criticized Putin! Not a single criticism of the invasion! Trump would have pulled the US out of NATO and refused to give any humanitarian or military aid to Ukraine! He held the aid from Ukraine in the past and was impeached for it! Trump sat like a weak coward during the press conference with Putin after their meeting and when Putin bashed The US as a country and the intelligence agencies of The US, Trump fully supported Putin. He was nodding and saying I believe Putin! His coward acts of agreeing with Putin rather than standing up for America will never be forgotten! Even 90% of GOP members ( led by the great American war hero John McCain ) were offended and said what he did was wrong on that day! But now most of them don’t have the balls to speak out against him!

Bottom line is that this invasion is a problem that only the Ukrainian Government and The Russian Government can solve. The sooner the Ukrainian President agrees to some of the terms of Putin to reach a compromise, the sooner the killing of innocent civilians will stop!

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Anyone who America doesn't like!

How many western war criminals are there again??

Where are the most weapons' of war produced??

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Russia is not a Super Power. It has been letting little Ukraine kick its *** for over two weeks. Putin is a joke and his military doesn't want to fight. So he relies on bombing from the WWII era.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was on a flight to Beijing, China today, but the plane turned around midway and flew back to Moscow.

The White House announced a call between Xi & Biden immediately afterward.

The isolation of Russia is complete.

https://news.yahoo.com/russian-foreign-minister-lavrov-apos-155240774.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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In my opinion war is war. In the end you are stilling killing people. People who are fathers/mothers and daughters/sons of families. In the end is hypocrisy to try to call out some for war crimes when everyone involve has blood on their hands. The soldiers are also the ones pulling the triggers and ending lives.

Plus this is pretty bias considering there are dozens of conflicts happening all over the world and they aren’t bothering to call them out and the war crimes committed there.

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putin a thug? Likely. 

a war criminal? No.

Anyone who orders the targeted bombing of hospitals, schools, and apartment buildings is a war criminal. Anyone who orders the targeted shooting of civilians trying to escape is a war criminal. It's pretty simple.

Or do you disagree?

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Someone who deliberately targets a theater full of 100's of kids and women taking refuge and also targets hospitals and schools is a war criminal.

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Convention IV: prohibits attacks on civilian hospitals

Maternity hospital in Mariupol - check.

Protocol I: new rules regarding the treatment of the deceased, cultural artifacts, and dangerous targets (such as dams and nuclear installations

Attacks on Chernobyl and Zaporizhzhia - check.

Article 3: humane treatment for all persons in enemy hands, without discrimination. It specifically prohibits murder, mutilation, torture, the taking of hostages

Refusal to allow safe evacuation from cities under attack, including breaking of cease-fire agreements and mining of escape routes, exit into Russia (=to become hostages) only allowed - check.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/geneva_conventions_and_their_additional_protocols

Seems pretty clear to me.

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The U.S. has given Ukraine 100 killer drones.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-administration-to-send-killer-drones-to-help-ukraine/ar-AAVbTFn

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Should be national security reasons *

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Who decides?” - Arnold Schwarzenegger gives a well-spoken, personal account of what he his family suffered from war criminals and what he thinks of Putin’s war on Ukraine .Here’s his 9 min 16 sec Twitter video subtitled in both English and Russian. Worth the watch.

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger?refsrc=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504426844199669762%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvariety.com%2F2022%2Fpolitics%2Fnews%2Farnold-schwarzenegger-ukraine-russia-nazi-father-1235208273%2F
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An eventual head of the British Army lied through his teeth about massacres of UK citizens by his men on the streets of Belfast in 1971 and Derry in 1972, smearing innocent, unarmed victims as terrorists, a slur only cleared by Her Majesty's Government decades later.

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A resource war is what this truly is, the opposition is grabbing theirs now...

Some wars are fought over access to resources. This war is not. This is something different. Mr. Putin is now threatening Bosnia. I suspect the four landing ships that passed through the Tsugaru Strait are headed there.

https://www.irinsider.org/easterncentral-europe/2021/3/25/russia-threatens-bosnia-over-nato-cooperation

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Don’t want to be called a war criminal, you pathetic dictator?

Don’t commit war crimes.

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Yes, Nixon was no angel, that’s for sure…and you could also say the same for many other past world leaders. But there’s a world of difference when comparing FDR and Churchill to Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler. On the other hand, in all fairness, you could also argue that the USA was fighting a defensive war then in Vietnam, whereas, Russia is fighting very much of an offensive war of aggression against Ukraine. Putin belongs more with Stalin and Hitler as a war criminal than he does with FDR and Churchill.

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One wonders why Russia is not party to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. One must also wonder why the US isn't either.

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Who gets to decide? America.

Wasn't some lady going to go to the UN to present evidence against American war crimes or something, but she was refused a visa to travel to America? Is this related to what Alfie was talking about?

Mr Kipling:

The victors decide...

So Putin is safe.

Oh, you naughty thing.

Wobot:

Tony Blair should be in jail

That's SIR Tony BLIAR to you.

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Putin is a war criminal. You see the truth in front of your nose every day on TV. What you are not seeing now because of repression in Russia is that the war is highly unpopular with the Russia people. It is very likely unpopular with the higher-ups in the government and business.

Remember that once upon a time Putin was the candyman who brought Western consumer goods to Russia. Then he became a dictator and then a mass murderer unparalleled since Stalin. Stalin is worshipped because he credited for saving the Soviet Union from Nazi Germany. Putin? He is not saving Russia by killing mothers and children.

The end of Putin's reign of terror is likely on the table somewhere.

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The end of Putin's reign of terror is likely on the table somewhere.

The Russian people need to be the ones to do it. Otherwise the world won't forget them for not stopping Putin for at least a generation. They're the only ones that can control their own guy, no one else in the world can.

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Who is a war criminal? Surely a rhetorical question because we only need to look in the mirror of history on the wall and the answer stares out at us: WAR CRIMINALS R US. Since Grozny Putin has long been a member of the war criminal club, not to mention his false flag terrorism in Russia detonating an apartment block to justify the second Russian invasion of Chechya, the tragedy of the massacre of school children in Beslan triggered on Putin's orders and the list goes on...Unfortunately, the principles of Nuremberg to punish people in leadership positions for their wars of aggression and crimes against humanity have never been honored since. The world needs a new international system to stop wars by canceling immunity and impunity for war criminals in leadership positions. Or will some people always be "above the law"?

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Team America: World Police. They seem to be able to dictate to every other country on Earth who's "good" and who's "evil".

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Good article. The sad matter is that you are only a war criminal if you lose the war and cannot justify victory in rampage.

war is not pretty. Japan knows that first hand.

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That's SIR Tony BLIAR to you.

Like SIR Mike Jackson or SIR Jimmy Saville.

Or Lord Lebedev for that matter...?

Plenary indulgences for this mortal realm.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

 Is it that hard? Give it a rest.

If reading something from a poster criticizing Trump and Putin upsets some, they are free (unless they live in Russia/China/Iran etc.) to ignore the posts or read a publication from Sinclair Broadcasting, the Putin media or other extreme right outlets that only praise Trump/ Putin/the Ayatollah and other idols of authoritarians. . The free for profit press offers numerous outlets for individuals from a full range of backgrounds to choose from.

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Team America: World Police. They seem to be able to dictate to every other country on Earth who's "good" and who's "evil".

Pretty much since we usually are always doing the work. When America doesn’t lead, this is what happens. If America is replaced by China, Russia or any of these other rogue nations take the helm you will have what we are having now, chaos.

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Tony Blair has time on his schedule. So does Benjamin Netanyahu.

they could form an international tribunal to decide. Maybe include George Bush for some impartiality.

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Who is a war criminal, and who gets to decide?

It does not necessarily mean that if the nation is a superpower, it gets the right to decide and call other any 'name' it likes.

Just a typical lowly trivial scenario of a pot calling a kettle black..

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When America doesn’t lead, this is what happens.

In your opinion, when did America last lead?

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On the other hand, in all fairness, you could also argue that the USA was fighting a defensive war then in Vietnam, whereas, Russia is fighting very much of an offensive war of aggression against Ukraine. 

Right. In the US, I often felt the need to defend myself against poor rice famers in undeveloped countries on the other side of the world. This is why the US has troops in over 100 countries around the world. Self-defence.

Sure thing.

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so called "fact checkers" from facebook twitter and other rubbish corners will decide...business as usual.

and yes corrupted media will help with their narratives.also business as usual.

nothing new for me at all.

nothing.

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In your opinion, when did America last lead?

Factually, The last previous administration where we didn’t have a single war or any of these madmen running Amok.

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Since we are on the topic and the question is asked. I would put Obama, Clinton and Bush as well on that list although, I was happy he got rid of Saddam.

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I would put Obama, Clinton and Bush as well on that list

No Ronny Reagan? I think funding El Salvadoran etc. death squads might qualify him for that list of war criminals as well as arms dealing to the ayatollahs to fund it.

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Some wars are fought over access to resources. This war is not. 

I respectfully have to disagree. There is method in Putin's madness: the loss of the Ukraine with its 40 million inhabitants, granary of the world and a solid industrial base built up since Stalin was one secession too far for the folks who run Russia. That said, the ego of the Kremlin mediocrity with a deep-seated inferiority complex corrupted and intoxicated by years of enjoying all the privileges of autocratic power, makes it inevitable that Putin imagines himself to be a "man of destiny" chosen by "Providence" to "make his (broken) country great again when , in reality, he is nothing a little "emperor with no clothes", worshiped by the uneducated and utilized by the unscrupulous.

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By objective standards, both Clintons and Obama are war criminals for their illegal bombings of Serbia and Libya respectively. The name-callers in the US admin should look in the mirror.

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No Ronny Reagan? I think funding El Salvadoran etc. death squads might qualify him for that list of war criminals as well as arms dealing to the ayatollahs to fund it

Good point.

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Factually, The last previous administration where we didn’t have a single war or any of these madmen running Amok.

Trump was utterly deferential to Putin, Xi, and Kim.

Even you got mad when Trump said that he believed Putin's word over US intelligence in Helsinki.

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Trump was utterly deferential to Putin, Xi, and Kim

So he should have snubbed them the way Biden did? Nuclear power nations? Yeah, real smart and look how that turned out. The Saudis won’t even talk to Biden, shows how and what they think of the guy.

Even you got mad when Trump said that he believed Putin's word over US intelligence in Helsinki.

I didn’t get angry, but I think the US intelligence agency to a very large extent lost on the credibility record.

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So he should have snubbed them the way Biden did? Nuclear power nations? Yeah, real smart and look how that turned out.

He could have done more than subserviently following their every word.

The Saudis won’t even talk to Biden, shows how and what they think of the guy.

You have previously said that you are proud that the US is a Saudi bootlicker, so I understand why you would say this.

I didn’t get angry, but I think the US intelligence agency to a very large extent lost on the credibility record.

Do you trust US intelligence or Putin? Which one?

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Well in my book any place that gives someone the likes of Roman Shukhevych Stepan Bandera, OUN UPA all facist, racist organizations that commited ethnic cleansing national hero status, doesn't have a foot to stand on when calling other war criminals!

I think Putin is and I have that right because I am not whitewashing the past like other that make accusations have done or are doing.

I say the facts and truth Putin is a dictator and criminal, as are those that support the UPA OUN beliefs and goals and fly the UPA flag.

Once they come to terms with that part of their history then they can point a finger,

Poland points it's finger at both for good reason.

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Factually, The last previous administration where

the war on Covid common sense caused a million American deaths?

the war on the taxpayer saw 'one who paid none, get millions from many?'

the traitor-in-chief goaded his fans to attack the US Capitol?

Yeah, pretty uneventful.

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He could have done more than subserviently following their every word.

Yeah, like brushing them off, well then we would have been in the mess we are in now. Real smart.

You have previously said that you are proud that the US is a Saudi bootlicker,

I am not, nothing has changed, but even these people don’t want to talk to Biden and they usually speak to EVERY President, but not this one.

Do you trust US intelligence or Putin? Which one?

I already gave the answer.

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Who is a war criminal, and who gets to decide?

I would say a majority plus 10, of votes in the General assembly of the UN. No veto's in the General assembly, so the guilty can note veto votes against themselves or allies.

So like the last vote was 141 - 5 - 35. Majority would have been 91 - 90. Majority + 10 would be 101 - 80

I would think something like that to be a fair starting point.

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Yeah, like brushing them off, well then we would have been in the mess we are in now. Real smart.

Smarter than letting them run wild.

I am not, nothing has changed, but even these people don’t want to talk to Biden and they usually speak to EVERY President, but not this one.

It has changed, since you previously said you did.

I already gave the answer.

So you trust Putin over the US. OK.

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America never led. They bombed.

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Smarter than letting them run wild.

Was there a war in those 4 years? No.

.It has changed, since you previously said you did.

That has nothing to do with the Saudis snubbing Biden.

So you trust Putin over the US. OK

No, not entirely, but I don’t trust our intelligence agency for the most part either given their history and what they tried to do to the last President.

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So you trust Putin over the US. OK.

Actually, I do. And I don't even trust Putin that much in the first place.

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Was there a war in those 4 years? No.

The war in Afghanistan.

That has nothing to do with the Saudis snubbing Biden.

But it does mean you've changed your position on a dime. Again.

No, not entirely, but I don’t trust our intelligence agency for the most part either given their history and what they tried to do to the last President.

So, you trust Putin, not the US. Like I said.

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What a joke this administration is. Calling him a war criminal, yet he’s still involved with negotiations the U.S. are having with Iran on Nuclear and energy. So a country that constantly shouts death to America are being manipulated by Putin and his staff. That’s a recipe for success. NOT! Do you think him being labeled as such, will change anything or that he will actually be prosecuted?? How did the Obama deal with Iran work out to benefit the U.S.? To label him a war criminal is toothless and a futile action. Kind of like getting the media to admin that BIDEN’s sons laptop in not Russian disinformation.

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to admit

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The war in Afghanistan.

Was Biden‘s blunder and The Chinese, the Russians and the Iranians saw and realized what a weak and pathetic president this man is and here we are.

But it does mean you've changed your position on a dime. Again.

I am irrelevant to the this conflict, not important what my personal views are.

So, you trust Putin,

I never said that

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Actually, I do. And I don't even trust Putin that much in the first place.

Wow, Imagine believing a leader who openly states he wants to "purify" his country, and rid it of people critical of the invasion of Ukraine, over the United States.

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Wow, Imagine believing a leader who openly states he wants to "purify" his country, and rid it of people critical of the invasion of Ukraine, over the United States.

You’re conflating the two, one statement or one opinion has nothing to do with the other

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Was there a war in those 4 years? No.

Yes the one we cannot point out here!

Yemen, bombed beyond the stone age and still being bombed as we comment here, only no one is calling the Saudi or it's USA backed "coalition" war criminals.

Far more dead, far more in need of humanitarian help, and total silence from most of the world especially North America and Europe.

Gold medals for hypocrisy all around!

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Was Biden‘s blunder

Huh? The war in Afghanistan continued under Trump. That was a war, that Trump oversaw. Please try to keep up.

and The Chinese, the Russians and the Iranians saw and realized what a weak and pathetic president this man is and here we are.

Then why is Russia begging China for help, and China not getting involved?

I am irrelevant to the this conflict, not important what my personal views are.

The consistency of your views is relevant. For example, if you said that Trump was right to advocate for $2,000 Covid checks, but weeks later say that Biden advocating for $2,000 Covid checks would bankrupt the country, you might not be totally internally coherent.

I never said that

I asked you if you trusted Putin or the US. You said you didn't trust the US. So you must trust Putin.

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You’re conflating the two, one statement or one opinion has nothing to do with the other

No, I'm not conflating the two. That is literally what they wrote. They believe Putin over the US.

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Yes exactly the hypocrisy is not stunning anymore as the world has become stupefied with movies and complacency and our so called world leaders not being held accountable for their own war crimes.

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War criminals? Well that would be every Anglo-American leader since at least the 18th century, considering British actions in their colonies and American actions against native Americans. And don't even get me started on the 20th century bar stewards like Churchill, Roosevelt, Truman, Nixon, Bush I & II, Blair, Obama, Clinton, etc.

What a load of hypocritical horse pucky

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war is a crime against humanity, so...... everyone, i guess.

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