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Fauci warns more pain and suffering ahead as COVID cases rise in U.S.

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What's the *****problem? Get vaccinated and wear a mask when around others.

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Keep behaving like idiots, ridiculous anti-science conservatives..

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No Vax = No Vote

That’ll make things interesting.

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More pain and suffering? I think that's mostly pain and suffering to people who believe in wild conspiracy theories.

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This Covid sure does give President Biden a pass. What happened to healthcare reform? It just proves that the Dems party is just as corrupt as the Reps and some kind of government healt insurance is verboten.

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wear a mask when around others.

As has been posted on these forums several times, apparently some mouth-breathers have problems wearing masks, they are unable to breathe in and out through their noses, or some nonsense like that.

Plus their leaders and media continue to convince them to believe masks and vaccines are bad. because something something 'liberal'.

The mouth breathers hide behind some vague notion of what they call freedom. Many mouth breathers in the US care nothing about their culture beyond preserving Confederate statues and ensuring only a white-washed version of history is allowed, many have stated they're anti-government, even anti-American.

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some kind of government healt insurance is verboten.

I agree, but the ultra-rightists and others identifying as conservative/Republicans have long opposed measures that would enable people at the lower economic ends of the economic spectrum to have privileges that have long been the exclusive province of those born to wealth. In the latter group I include many in congress, regardless political party. It's another example of how the US is caste-based.

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Dr. Anthony Fauci warned Sunday that more “pain and suffering” is on the horizon as COVID-19 cases climb again and officials plead with unvaccinated Americans to get their shots.

Definitely more pain and suffering in Red States where the MAGA-masses refuse the "Trump Vaccine" and their craven politicians enact no-mask mandates...

Want to know where the next Trump rally will be? The ICU....

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This Covid sure does give President Biden a pass. 

Covid is a world problem and not an American problem. But more Americans would get vaccinated if Tucker says on TV to all his Trump people to get the vaccine. But it could backfire? Because if Tucker does that his audience might turn against him then just watch a different Trump personality who preaches Trump Science. But currently it is believed (by Trump people) that Tucker knows a lot about Science than Fauci, and they follow 100% what he says.

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Some people just learn the hard way. Even then, a lot of them don't learn.

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No Vax = No Vote

That’ll make things interesting.

If you think voter ID is essential, then the free government-issued ID of a filled vaccine card is perfect, no? Seems like a good compromise for everyone.

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Maybe a Trump supporter has the guts today to answer this after three days of dodging...

"I would recommend it," Mr Trump said during an interview on Fox News Primetime on Tuesday. "I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly." *He added: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/16/its-great-vaccine-donald-trump-asks-backers-get-covid-vaccine/4726016001/

Trump supporters, read the highlighted sentence above...Donald Trump, your hero, the person you voted for, is telling you directly to get vaccinated...and that it is safe....

So, why do you refuse his recommendation? Is he lying to you when he says the vaccine is "safe and something that works"? Is he spreading dangerous disinformation and putting you and his supporters health at risk?

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We need more restrictions and mandates and mutual fear and loathing. They have been proven to work over the last 18 months

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No it just proves the ease of ability for people to actually get government ID.

so now everyone who wants to vote has an ID, great! Non vaccinated use their regular ID and those vaccinated without ID can use their vaccination card.

then the free government-issued ID of a filled vaccine card is perfect, no? Seems like a good compromise for everyone.

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No it just proves the ease of ability for people to actually get government ID.

So having government ID doesn't reduce the chances of voter fraud, you mean? OK. So why have ID laws, if they do nothing?

so now everyone who wants to vote has an ID, great! Non vaccinated use their regular ID and those vaccinated without ID can use their vaccination card.

No, you just said that regular ID can be faked. But vaccine cards, or, if you like, ID, are only given to citizens, and can't be faked. So let's do that. If you're vaxxed, you can vote. If not, you can't.

After all, "getting an ID isn't hard" is your argument, but at the same time, getting a vaccine isn't hard. Same thing.

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I am not even going to try to decipher that word salad.

As this article isnt even about voting, its about "doom and gloom for partisan politics" Fauci.

If someone wants to use their vaccination card as one of the forms of voter ID, please do. its likely more valid than an electric bill.

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I personally think we should trial voter ID. But we should make it so only registered Republicans have to have a valid ID. After all, Republicans are pushing for it, and they insist it doesn't make a difference, so why not? Let's put your ballot where your mouth is.

There is no good reason not to trial voter ID by making it mandatory for Republicans - and Republicans only - to have ID to vote. Registered Democratic members and Independents don't need ID.

There are no problems with this trial. If you believe that voter ID is not discriminatory and is not designed to exclude voters.

If you don't believe that, there are SEVERAL valid complaints you could bring! The problem is that all these objections will inevitably lead to "voter ID laws are bad". Which is not your position. Quite the conundrum. Maybe Q can help you out.

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the guy just cant talk clearly. is it equivalent, similar or identical? or some variation of "almost" or "quite" one of those?

Same interview, cant even say the same things.

"when you look at the level of virus in the nasopharynx of people who are vaccinated who get breakthrough infections, it's really quite high and equivalent to the level of virus in the nasopharynx of unvaccinated people who get infected," Fauci said.

the level of virus from the delta variant in both vaccinated and unvaccinated people is "really quite similar, almost identical."

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“So we’re looking... to some pain and suffering in the future because we’re seeing the cases go up, which is the reason why we keep saying over and over again, the solution to this is get vaccinated and this would not be happening,” Fauci said

... another solution (I think a better one) would be to distribute ivermectin; or at the very least make it available and let people talk about it.

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... another solution (I think a better one) would be to distribute ivermectin; or at the very least make it available and let people talk about it.

This is going to blow your mind, but you are taking about it.

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Another story of pain and suffering in a Red State and one more MAGA-family wishes they had taken the vaccine....

*Payten McCall, 24, and her family were afraid to get vaccinated, but now she's urging people not to make that mistake after losing her oldest brother and her dad to Covid-19. Her dad, Mark McCall, 60, died early Friday morning in the Covid ward of a Jacksonville, Florida, hospital where her mom, Sherry McCall, 58, was also being treated for the virus. The family was already reeling after her brother, Britt McCall, 35, died on Monday. "It has been one of the most, roughest and hardest experiences that I have ever had to go through in my whole life and I would never, ever wish this on anybody in their family,"*

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-covid-19-woman-urges-people-to-get-vaccinated-after-losing-her-dad-and-brother-the-same-week/ar-AAMO55f

Too bad they listened to Tucker rather than Trump who said the vaccine was safe and effective...

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... another solution (I think a better one) would be to distribute ivermectin; or at the very least make it available and let people talk about it.

Don't forget Mr. Clean as Trump has promoted. Trump says that we should try Mr. Clean to fight COVID-19

Biden and Fauci, yes, that’s quite near to pain and suffering. lol

Trump people need to understand that they will have to get the vaccine if they want to do anything other than sit around the house in their Lazyboy chairs with crumbs on their shirts pouting while they watch Tucker all day long. Airlines, private businesses (because they are private and can do what they want) will not let Trump antivax people in their premises or board their planes, etc. You will need a passport and have to share your identity with this and Trump people will not do this. And I'm fine with enjoying these facilities with a lot more room to spare while the Trump people stay isolated wallowing in their pity while they marinate themselves in Tucker shows.

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I am not even going to try to decipher that word salad.

It's actually just sentences. Word salad is totally different. If you try, you will be able to understand what I wrote. On this Japanese website, I must say I enjoy taking this opportunity to expansd the love and understanding of the English language to those who have not yet grasped it. Some people even thought that amendments to the US Constitution weren't real! Haha! Imagine that! "Trump can have five terms", they said. "An amendment isn't part of the Constitution itself", they cried. "Except for the Second Amendment because I love guns, that's the only amendment that actually is part of the Constitution", they yelped. Hahaha! Imagine that.

Imagine it.

As this article isnt even about voting, its about "doom and gloom for partisan politics" Fauci.

I'm glad to hear that you no longer want to discuss anything that isn't explicitly laid out in the article. I look forward to not reading "BUT JOE BIDEN!!!" in an article about burnt eggs.

If someone wants to use their vaccination card as one of the forms of voter ID, please do. its likely more valid than an electric bill.

No. Vaccine ID is federally recognized. It is the gold standard. Don't want to get your ID because you don't want your vaccine? Okay. But you don't get to vote.

Deal with it.

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Too bad they listened to Tucker rather than Trump who said the vaccine was safe and effective...

Sadly there are many examples of people not getting the vaccine and dying from Covid19. Sadly, there are also many examples of people, even young people, of dying from the vaccine.

One thing I sometimes do when I read about such deaths is that I do a Google image search of the deceased. With covid deaths, the deceased has always been overweight (whenever I checked), sometimes very much so, while those who were killed by the vaccination were not.

So yeah, if you are overweight or have diabetes, cancer, or certain immune issues, then go ahead and get the shot. However, if you are healthy, you might want to consider not getting it....

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However, if you are healthy, you might want to consider not getting it....

That's fine, and Trump people always have FOX News to keep them company 24/7 since they won't be able to enjoy usual facilities without the vax passport. Scientists fear future and worse pandemics and these will not be imaginary stories of viruses being created in some mysterious Chinese lab like in a TV show such as Walking Dead

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there are also many examples of people, even young people, of dying from the vaccine.

Tucker said there are millions

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Nobody is forcing you to get a shot.

If you don't want to, you don't have to.

But constantly spreading misinformation to get other people not have a vaccine is a real scummy move.

Real low and scummy.

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as is spreading misinformation to try to force others to get the vaccine,

And calling for discrimination, retaliation and denying employment and entrance to public places against those who dont or wont or cant.

If you don't want to, you don't have to.

Perfect, I can accept that as the message.

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voter suppression of minorities and people of color.

 Don't want to get your ID because you don't want your vaccine? Okay. But you don't get to vote.

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Perfect, I can accept that as the message.

Again, as a person who believes in non-Trump Science I'm fine with all the extra room without Trump people not being allowed to board the same airplane as me. Trump people are free to not get vaxxed, but at the same time they have to keep away from me because they don't (will not) have the freedom to do what I do and go where I go. And the children of Trump people will have to be used to home schooling.

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as is spreading misinformation to try to force others to get the vaccine,

Nobody is doing this.

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voter suppression of minorities and people of color.

Getting an ID is voter suppression? Glad to hear you've come around, comrade.

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sure you did.

misinformation: once you get vaccinated, you cant get the virus, cant pass it and dont have to wear a mask! You can have a 4th of July BBQ outside with hot dogs and get your life back!

So lots of people got an unapproved vaccine.

Now: back to wearing masks as a vaccinated person. can still get breakthrough cases, can still spread it and still have the same amount of virus in you as an unvaccinated person if you catch it. vaccinated people can get hospitalized and also die from COVID.

So you basically got a vaccine to be "less sick" than an unvaccinated person, yet now you have to deal with future unknown side effects too.

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*as is spreading misinformation to try to force others to get the vaccine,*

What are you talking about? A lot of companies that are run at the government want to force people to get the jab. Cuomo is about to get hit with a lawsuit if this nit tries to force government to take the juice.

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nishikat, you have to remember that government is bad and the private sector, and encompassing both of those, capitalism is great and cool and good and I love it.

Except when it inconveniences me and then the government, which I hate and think should have no power, should use its all-encompassing power to make things better for people. Well, people in my position. Well, people like me. Well, specifically, me.

The government should not be allowed to dictate anything to anyone or take any actions. Unless I am negatively impacted. Then the full force of the state must be used to fluff my pillow.

Incidentally, I am a free-market economist by trade.

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Fox is really to blame for all the vax hesitancy? That seems like a stretch

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Fox is really to blame for all the vax hesitancy? That seems like a stretch

Fair comment, disinformationists like yourself also deserve credit.

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misinformation: once you get vaccinated, you cant get the virus, cant pass it and dont have to wear a mask! You can have a 4th of July BBQ outside with hot dogs and get your life back!

I didn’t say this, and I notice you aren’t provide any cite to anyone who did.

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