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Fear and loathing in a Super Tuesday state: Democrats angry at Biden back him anyway to stop Trump

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“It frightens me to think about Trump being in office again,” said Audra Robinson.

As it should. Apart from his incompetence and his narcissism, he would look to destroy democracy.

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“Trump may be for a ban. But what is worse, a ban or the killing?” Abdi said.

I've got news for you Abdi. Biden isn't doing any killing, but who do you think is Netanyahu's biggest fan? Trump, and the killing would get worse.

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Fear and loathing in a Super Tuesday state

Just like a drug-fueled frenzy, the Democratic party basically has itself to blame.

I am sure the recent NYT poll numbers will get mentioned further down this thread.

The DNC has its original sin by the sabotage of Bernie Sander's momentum in 2016 and 2020.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-superdelegates-110083

“I’m concerned about his mental capacity,” the 36-year-old yoga instructor from Eden Prairie said. “And I’m tired of choosing between the lesser evil of two old white guys. ”But Biden is the lesser of those two evils.”

So we are back in Hobson's Choice territory.

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The DNC has its original sin by the sabotage of Bernie Sander's momentum in 2016 and 2020.

He would have never one, neither side would every support a socialist, he was doomed politically (thankfully) from the start.

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The DNC has its original sin by the sabotage of Bernie Sander's momentum in 2016 and 2020.

He would have never one, neither side would every support a socialist, he was doomed politically (thankfully) from the start.

Once again, no.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/02/05/the-reasons-why-young-voters-are-embracing-bernie-sanders-and-socialism/?sh=6207fb3d2f17

As the article states, only the alt-right love, and exploit the duopoly.

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Once again, no.

Yes. He would have never made it, there is just no way. Again, the U.S. would never accept a socialist. Biden is already destroying the country with his progressive policies and Sanders give away free stuff would accelerate that down slide.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/15/bernie-sanderss-agenda-makes-him-definition-unelectable/

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Yes. He would have never made it, there is just no way. Again, the U.S. would never accept a socialist.

Ironic, and of course illogical, that MAGA who endorse every conspiracy theory about rigged elections and witch hunts without a shred of evidence to support their Dear Leader reject an actual admitted instance of the rigging of a primary process.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/23/487179496/leaked-democratic-party-emails-show-members-tried-to-undercut-sanders

Your info is out of date.

https://www.axios.com/2019/10/28/millennials-vote-socialism-capitalism-decline

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Ironic, and of course illogical,

That socialist policies don’t work??

that MAGA who endorse every conspiracy theory about rigged elections

He’s right.

and witch hunts

Absolutely

without a shred of evidence to support their Dear Leader reject an actual admitted instance of the rigging of a primary process. 

There is, just take your blinders off and you can see it and the most interesting thing about it is, all these initial court dates are interestingly scheduled around the most crucial campaign dates, I mean, what are the chances? Also, the Dems are giddy about these indictments and believe in the rule of law and process, now when the courts put a stay on some of these hearings and put them on delay, the left goes nuts and claims the system is siding with Trump. One would think it’s a good thing for the appeals process to take its course and why the rush. If these allegations are really serious as the left claim them to be, take your time, even if it takes up to 3 years. You want to make sure you have a slam dunk case after all.

Your info is out of date.

But they don’t know better because they’re taught that robbing Paul to get to Peter is the road to prosperity and it’s not, it’s a dead end failure to disaster and financial ruin. Look at almost any welfare State.

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Hispanics aren’t voting for Biden anymore because of his wide open border. Blacks because he is trying to replace them with illegals.

For the primary, there is no one else to vote for, for the people on this article.

In the general election, there is.

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Plus they picked Minnesota for this article for a reason. Democrats already losing all the other 7 swing states by increasing margins.

When Minnesota and Virginia are also now swing states, Dems are in yuuuuuge trouble.

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Hispanics aren’t voting for Biden anymore because of his wide open border. Blacks because he is trying to replace them with illegals.

This has to be the second biggest delusion infecting MAGA-world, after the 2020 Big Lie...

That somehow Hispanics will vote for someone that called them "rapists and murderers" and openly espouses the "Great Replacement Theory"....

And that Black Americans will vote for a guy that invites over a Neo-Nazi white supremacist for dinner and calls some of them "very fine people"....then says Blacks will vote for him since he has a mugshot like them...

Black Americans are too smart to fall for the obvious cheap con - unlike most of his high school drop-out white racist base...

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Dems are in yuuuuuge trouble.

It was only a few years ago that he was in office so the rotten taste of Trump is still fresh for people to remember how bad he was.

Mitt Romney's interview on CNN the other day was very interesting.

It's clear that there are yuuuuuuge numbers of traditional Republican's who will not vote for trump this time around.

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They point to the 600,000 voters who voted in Michigan's primary this past week, more than three times the turnout for Obama in 2012.

we really got to look at this idea that Obama was “popular”, elderly white guy with poor memory totally destroying his vote totals everywhere.

oh, and Biden got 600k? trump got 750k lol.

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Dems are in yuuuuuge trouble.

Only if Nikki (or is it Nancy?) is the Repub nominee...

Because it sure wont be the "Loser in Leavenworth"...or maybe he'll get lucky and they'll send him to a sanatorium for the severely senile...

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that MAGA who endorse every conspiracy theory about rigged elections

He’s right.

Can he prove it or is it a conspiracy theory?

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Most consider Michigan closest or one of closest states. Auto Union workers not happy with Biden EV policies, Muslims, Arabs & Youth not happy with Gaza Genocide.

Follow, https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

Like rest of US, most in MI hate high prices, continued elevated inflation and high interest rates, making buying a home tough, rental inflation brutal, etc.

Biden won MI by approx. 3% in 2020

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/02/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voter-crosstabs.html

Trump: 46 to 40 with Hispanics.

That's a big difference from Biden's 2020 general election support from Hispanics. Biden won 59% of the Hispanic vote to Trump's 38% that year, according to Pew Research.

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This has to be the second biggest delusion ...

No, every stat is showing this.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/

That somehow Hispanics will vote for someone that called them "rapists and murderers" and openly espouses the "Great Replacement Theory"....

Yes, because they don’t buy the lib hype and know it’s full of BS

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/us/politics/trumps-support-among-latinos-grows-new-poll-shows.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hispanic-support-trump-raises-red-flag-biden-2023-12-16/

And that Black Americans will vote for a guy that invites over a Neo-Nazi white supremacist for dinner and calls some of them "very fine people"....then says Blacks will vote for him since he has a mugshot like them...

Yup!

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/08/25/the-hood-is-waking-up-did-trumps-black-support-just-skyrocket-overnight-1390217/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/some-black-men-lose-faith-biden-democrats-2024-2023-08-01/

Black Americans are too smart to fall for the obvious cheap con - unlike most of his high school drop-out white racist base...

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/594046-black-voters-are-fleeing-biden-in-droves-heres-why/

And Trump continues to put Biden further into the ground.

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Biden polices have helped you: 18%

hurt you? 43%

trump policies have helped you: 40%

hurt?: 25%

it’s quite simple when put this way.

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Only if Nikki (or is it Nancy?) is the Repub nominee...

No, she got the Ned Stark treatment.

Because it sure wont be the "Loser in Leavenworth"...

That won’t happen, ever.

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Don’t mistake a trickle for a flood bass.

Thanks for the links; very informative as always:

“The vast majority of Black voters, including men, are still expected to choose Biden over a Republican.”

“It bears repeating: Joe Biden won the Democratic nomination for president because he wasn’t Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and won the general election because he wasn’t Donald Trump.”

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The vast majority of Black voters, including men, are still expected to choose Biden over a Republican.”

Of course. All Trump needs is about 15-20% and he wins easily.

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All Trump needs is about 15-20% and he wins easily

lol. All he needs is 15% of the black vote to win. Thanks for the chuckles.

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Don’t mistake a trickle for a flood bass. 

No, it’s a flood.

Thanks for the links; very informative as always: 

You are welcome as always.

“The vast majority of Black voters, including men, are still expected to choose Biden over a Republican.”

Trump got 8% of the black vote last time and is expected to get around 12% that is huge, no republican got that much support from them and that’s not good for Dems especially that high and that number is expected to grow.

“It bears repeating: Joe Biden won the Democratic nomination for president because he wasn’t Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and won the general election because he wasn’t Donald Trump.”

Things have changed and the war and border issue are killing him.

lol. All he needs is 15% of the black vote to win. Thanks for the chuckles.

And that’s not including the Hispanic vote, ROFL. It’s a lock.

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It's true, as Trump only won 8% of African American vote in 2020, he doubles it and it's lights out; polling around 20% with African American males, women about half that, no joking matter for panicked democratic operatives, Hispanics far worse, plus youth and independents. ONLY group Biden's doing well with relative to 2020, TOP 1% income, that's informative.

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Sounds like you’ve got it in the bag! Break out the champagne lol.

It’s going to be funny hearing your excuses when 45 loses again.

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Polls, schmolls. Who knows what's going to happen. Just get out there and vote NO to Donald Trump and fascism.

This will become clearer to voters once they realize the agenda already being planned by those who know Trump is their useful idiot.

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It’s a lock.

And if your prediction doesn't come true, you can whine and stamp your feet and claim rigged election and storm the capitol again.

Either way, this year is going to be scary.

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Polls, schmolls.

Ok, forget the polls, when you watch street interviews a big port of people being interviewed about Biden are just disastrous.

Who knows what's going to happen. Just get out there and vote NO to Donald Trump and fascism.

Vote yes, if you want a closed border and support Law and Order and want to fully fund our police and to give them immunity.

This will become clearer to voters once they realize the agenda already being planned by those who know Trump is their useful idiot.

I think it has always been clear to voters that Biden in his physical state, forget his dissipating cognitive abilities, I’m concerned that he might not make to November with the way he’s moving or lack of movement.

And if your prediction doesn't come true, you can whine and stamp your feet and claim rigged election and storm the capitol again.

And if it is true, you can do the same.

Either way, this year is going to be scary

I feel kind of good actually….

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Polls, schmolls. Who knows what's going to happen

Yes, a long way to go.

One observation is that Trump has been underperforming regarding what the polls predicted. He has of course beaten Haley comfortably up to now but not to the level the polls have predicted.

I can remember one grifter/podcaster scamming the less able in 2020 claiming Trump was going to get 30% of the black vote. Some actually believed it. Maybe some others believed it and thought their votes were dumped in a river/incinerated by space lasers etc.

Anyway, the observation about the polls up to now is an interesting one.

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Trump's not winning new voters, he just keeps doubling down on the same old election lies, unpopular decisions like Roe vs, Wade, and is up against Biden's booming economy. He even managed to screw up the border issue by demanding his minions kill the popular and effective bipartisan bill. The GOP hasn't won more votes than Dems for 20 years, and they've failed in election after election with Trump, the perennial criminal loser.

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Ok, forget the polls, when you watch street interviews a big port of people being interviewed about Biden are just disastrous.

You can find any kind of street interviews on YouTube. So what?

support Law and Order and want to fully fund our police and to give them immunity.

Nobody should have "immunity". Bad cops who break the law shouldn't be immune from prosecution. Neither should presidents.

That's called respecting "law and order".

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Trump's not winning new voters,

That would be like saying, Biden is African-American.

he just keeps doubling down on the same old election lies, unpopular decisions like Roe vs, Wade,

Evidently, we know know that everything Trump said was in fact true all along, another reason for his rise.

and is up against Biden's booming economy.

Not for the middle class or Gen Z crowds

He even managed to screw up the border issue by demanding his minions kill the popular and effective bipartisan bill.

Biden allowed 7.2 million people across the border, not a single person blames Trump or the Republicans on this issue. He didn’t visit the border almost 4 years and now he decides to go? The optics of that will remain in the minds with the people forever.

The GOP hasn't won more votes than Dems for 20 years, and they've failed in election after election with Trump, the perennial criminal loser.

Yeah, uhh, not sure what you are reading or referring to, but back to reality, Biden and his administration are in serious, serious troubles, there is no denying or disputing that and trying to frame Trump with these frivolous lawsuits won’t change one bit of his mounting troubles.

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You can find any kind of street interviews on YouTube. So what?

Plastic, please relax and calm down, no need to get upset, not my fault, Biden is the one that created this mess and he has to answer, now if by some miracle Biden just pulls ahead of Trump, but it doesn’t seem so.

Nobody should have "immunity".

Cops should, because they don’t, that’s why blue states have become uninhabitable.

Bad cops who break the law shouldn't be immune from prosecution.

There’s an exception, I get it. But the vast majority of cops are not bad.

Neither should presidents.

Unless it’s Biden, right? If the Democrats get their way, that helps the Republicans next time around, then they can get rid of a Democrat president just as easily.

That's called respecting "law and order".

Hearing that from the left made me puke up my orange juice, I can’t stop laughing

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Biden in his physical state, forget his dissipating cognitive abilities, I’m concerned that he might not make to November with the way he’s moving or lack of movement.

Because all you're watching are clips chosen and edited by rightwing "news" (i.e. entertainment) outlets. As a journalist, you should know that to get the full picture on an issue you need to look at the raw footage.

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