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© 2023 AFPFierce battles rage in Bakhmut as Ukraine calls for planes
By Linda ABI ASSI and Ania TSOUKANOVA BAKHMUT/KYIV, Ukraine©2025 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Axel
According to Mossad in the brief they prepared for the Israeli regime last week the losses are as follows:
Ukraine losses:
302 Aircraft
212 Helicopters
2750 (S)iHA (I don't know what that is)
6320 Tanks and armored vehicles
7360 Howitzers
497 Air defense systems
157 000 Dead
234 000 Injured
17 230 captured
234 Dead US military trainers (mercenaries)
2458 Dead trainers from other NATO countries.
317 NATO trainers captured.
Russian Losses:
23 Aircraft
56 Helicopters
200 (S)iHA (I don't know what that is)
889 Tanks and armored vehicles
427 Howitzers
12 Air defense systems
18 480 Dead
44 500 Injured
323 captured
This is according to the Israeli intelligence and reported in Israeli media.
Mr Kipling
Axel.....
The Russians themselves are reporting more Russian deaths than that. About 14,000
Axel
According to Mossad, it's more than 14 000. Or was as of last week. 18 480 to be precise.
Nemo
And the Russians are lying. Its more lime 30k dead.
AND....
They STILL haven't taken control of a strategically unimportant salt mine.
They can't desalinate a mine. The De-Satanization, would seem an even more daunting task for this band of drunken criminal horde of soon to be corpses.
Nemo
And the 30k Russian dead? That's in the last 2 months alone.
TokyoLiving
Bakhmut will fall very soon, another step that brings the red army closer to kyiv..
2020hindsights
TokyoLiving
What is this 'red army' you speak of?
kurisupisu
The strategy for donating (sic) arms is to raise debts on Ukraine by selling weapons or by currying political favor with the Ukrainian government.
No fighter jets for Ukraine unless those countries supplying those weapons want retaliation from Russia;so the war goes on until Ukraine capitulates-that is the end game…
Nemo
If, IF Bakhmut is taken by the drunken rabble that is the red "army", the UA will withdraw to the western heights overlooking the suicide bowl the Russians have just " won" supply and communication lines in tact and strategically unaffected.
And it will only have cost Mother Putin 30k dead Russians (like he cares) along with many MANY irreplaceable vehicles, munitions, etc.
And Western resolve to ensure a decisive defeat in Ukraine has been redoubled.
So I guess for Mini-me this counts as a win?
Mark
NATO better get off their A$$es and start giving the Ukrainians serious weapons ASAP, actually it is already too late. Military analysts are already talking about the withdrawal from Bakhmut.
Mordac
What serious weapons are you speaking of? NATO's latest aircraft? Takes well over a year of training and they are no match for S-300s, 400s and 500s regardless.
Or do you mean nukes?
ok1517
Even if Bakhmut will be occupied by those RuSSian marauders, so what.
It will be a strategical move by Ukraine's forces, not wasting precious lives.
Contrary what RuSSia has been and still is doing: send them wave after wave, one on top of the other.
The old WWII strategy - it won't work for PUTAin and associates.
Ukrainians are fighting for their country, for their freedom, for their independence - this is why .....
Ukraine prevails!
Wakarimasen
Beginning of the end. More stuff won't save the poor Ukrainians. They need more people. And they are running out of those unless NATO directly intervenes.
Mr Kipling
Maybe not clear but I am referring to the Russians reporting more Russian deaths than the 480.
They are claiming 14,000 including Wagner and the Chechens.
fallaffel
What is your source for this... a hunch?
Strangerland
So Zelensky decided not to surrender to Russia. What exactly are you angry about?
kurisupisu
@fallaffel
I really hope you are not so naive as to believe that tanks and bombs are free?
Still, to give you an example of ‘war debt’
It wasn’t until 2006 that England finished paying the US back for loans made in 1950.
Ukraine is amassing massive debt!
UChosePoorly
Put "Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine" into your Googler box and you can see why 'peace proposals' might have been dismissed out of hand.
UChosePoorly
Putin could have, and probably did, bring those 'peace proposals' to Zelenskyy as well, and he would have also rightly rejected them. Ukraine is not interested in giving up Ukrainian land to Russia, so here we are.
stormcrow
If you can’t give the Ukrainians planes, give their ordinary soldier the most lethal and easy to use weaponry possible.
UChosePoorly
Blacklabel - Putin can send peace proposals to Zelenskyy any time he wants, but if they involve land for peace in our team, well, that's not going to happen, though you really seem to want it to.
UChosePoorly
peace in our time*
UChosePoorly
Russia has been on Ukrainian land since 2014, and has coveted it before then.
I don't have any control over how a reporter asks a loaded question.
You told me the other day, you don't want Russia to win, but when you carry on like this, it starts to raise suspicion in me.