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Even the Russians can't stand Russia and are trying to escape.

What a country!

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Eastman - why would they want to go to the decadent west when they could stay in glorious paradise Russia?

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These asylum seekers wish to go to the EU and live under the NATO security umbrella; that means Finland and its very long border.

And closing the border will actually hurt Finland's economy which is more reliant on Russia than you realize - tens of thousands cross the border every day for work; protests have broken out in the north of the country over this proposal.

Look at a map - there are numerous ways for asylum seekers to cross into Finland apart from these four border crossings. The freedom of the EU and joining the NATO homie club is what these freedom seekers want.

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Life is so bad in Russia the migrants have no wish to stay there. I can understand that.

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300,000 young Russian men fled the country to escape being called up for the war. When the abducted Ukrainian children reach the age of 18 Putin is trying to draft them into the army to fight in Ukraine.

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Finland, as a NATO member, needs to man-up and accept responsibility for accepting asylum seekers from the endless NATO wars in the middle east.

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Finland only became a NATO member April 2023. They are responsible for nothing.

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Russia in Syria created millions of refugees. President Assad, Putin's partner has been charged with war crimes for torture and executions. Both Putin and Assad are charged with war crimes by the ICC.

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RF has to redeploy limited resources previously used for stopping the flow of migrants across its territory because Helsinki is no longer neutral, and those resources are required for defense against the alliance it joined.

You can't have it both ways I'm sorry. And regardless of when you joined the alliance, you still have a responsibility to house the refugees created by NATOs mid-east wars (some of those going to Finland are from Syria, which NATO forces and bombing, occupying now; so at a bare minimum that have to accept a few hundred thousand Syrians). More are almost certainly on their way now that word has spread how good Finland is.

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JJEToday 11:49 am JST

RF has to redeploy limited resources previously used for stopping the flow of migrants across its territory because Helsinki is no longer neutral, and those resources are required for defense against the alliance it joined.

You can't have it both ways I'm sorry. And regardless of when you joined the alliance, you still have a responsibility to house the refugees created by NATOs mid-east wars (some of those going to Finland are from Syria, which NATO forces and bombing, occupying now; so at a bare minimum that have to accept a few hundred thousand Syrians). More are almost certainly on their way now that word has spread how good Finland is.

Finland is probably okay with Russia being Finland's Mexico.

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NATO is not in Syria nor is it bombing it. Putin and Assad created more than 3 million Syrian refugees. Russia should be taking them in.

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NATO is in Syria and bombing it.

Assad has not been charged by the ICC (the French bizarrely tried to charge him recently).

Wrong on both counts there.

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The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), a political and military alliance between 30 North American and European countries, has not directly bombed Syria as a unified entity.

https://ts2.space/en/why-did-nato-bomb-syria/#gsc.tab=0

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Finland has a very long, porous border. The land border is long enough, but also the entire Baltic sea coastline.

Asylum seekers can be very enterprising, determined people - who knows; they may acquire small boats, wire and bolt cutters, parachutes and paragliders, drones capable of carrying an adult, digging tools... someone might accidentally leave the keys in a bulldozer near a part of their border fence while a large group of migrants is in the vicinity. Same goes for buses and trucks that could come careering through border posts or light aircraft fuelled up and pinched while someone is on lunch break.

You know how many migrants can fit into a minivan - it's like a clown car.

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Some of the Western countries attacked ISIS in Syria but not Syrians.  ISIS is a militant group that follows a fundamentalist, Wahhabi doctrine of Sunni Islam. It gained global notoriety in 2014 when it established a caliphate in parts of Syria and Iraq. Also to prevent them from getting Syrian oil to finance their terrorism.

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The Syrian regime was responsible for 201,055 of these deaths, with the victims including 22,981 children and 11,976 women, while Russian forces killed 6,950 civilians, including 2,048 children and 977 women.

https://reliefweb.int/report/syrian-arab-republic/12th-anniversary-popular-uprising-total-230224-civilians-documented-dead-including-15275-who-died-due-torture-154871-arrested-andor-forcibly-disappeared-and-roughly-14-million-syrians-displaced#:~:text=The%20Syrian%20regime%20was%20responsible,2%2C048%20children%20and%20977%20women.

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Regardless, the asylum seekers want to go to the EU/Finland. And with the NATO security umbrella who wouldn't.

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Finland doesn't have to accept anyone into their country, especially people without documentation trying to enter from a dictatorship. Russia doesn't like it? So sad. I bet Ukraine and Georgia don't like Russians entering their countries either. Get used to being disappointed, Russia. Expect even more blockage.

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"French court issues arrest warrant for Bashar al-Assad for complicity in war crimes. A French court has issued an international arrest warrant for the Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad for complicity in war crimes against humanity linked to chemical weapon attacks on civilians."

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Finland also has obligations to accept asylum seekers under international and EU law. Once they are over the border that is that.

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The migrants could be Russian terrorists or Wagner group.

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Migrants can be placed in camps while their asylum applications are processed taking two years and deported when they fail.

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Migrants can be placed in Russian camps. Russia allowed them into their country.

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JJE - why would the migrants want to cross over into the decadent West when they could instead live in Russia? I would imagine they would be given guarantees that they wouldn't be drafted to the Ukrainian front.

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The Russians are providing free bicycles to illegal migrants. Many are Syrians.

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